80-96-list-digest Monday, March 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 081



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Re: FTE 80-96 - power loss
Re: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150
Re: FTE 80-96 - re:Rear Seal and Torque Converters
FTE 80-96 - RE:
Re: FTE 80-96 - Rear Seal and Torque Converters
FTE 80-96 - Reply to Gas Milege Question
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates
RE: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150
FTE 80-96 - Broken plastic door panels
FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem
FTE 80-96 - 92 F250 rear shoe question
Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem
FTE 80-96 - 8.8" rear end prob.
FTE 80-96 - Important head question!!!!

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 06:20:48 PST
From: "Jim Kudulis"
Subject: [none]

Good Morning,
Can anyone tell me where I can find the full text of a TSB? The one I am
looking for is 97-13-22. This TSB has to do with excessive vibration and
noise on a 1994 F250 in 4x2 with the hubs locked. My local Ford Service
Dept. says that there is no problem, but I think they might be wrong.
Sometimes it's so bad I can't hear the radio. All I can find are references
to the TSB. I'd really like to find the complete text.
Thanks,
Jim Kudulis







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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:13:00 -0500
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - power loss

On 18 Mar 99, at 20:10, shy anne wrote:

>Yesterday while driving my 83 f-150 i noticed a major power loss.
>when i turned my blinker on it was real slow, and the headlights were
>dim. when i turned the headlights off (when i got home) the blinker
>got a little faster. It almost seems like the battery is dying
>because this is what it did last time when the battery died. It
>shouldn't be that though because I just bought a new battery. Any
>ideas?

Sounds to me like it's either the voltage regulator or the alternator.
I have seen this on a few different vehicles. The turn signal will
blink real slowly, and if you have a DC guage, look at it and see if
the needle is moving to the discharge side while it is flashing. If it
is, then you're pulling power from the battery which will eventually
leave it drained. I would have the alternator checked immediately.

You might be a redneck if... Your favorite cologne is Blue Tick Hound.
- Jeff Foxworthy


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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:29:00 -0400
From: colin jamieson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150

most of the heater flapper controls are vaccum controlled..... atleast on my
'95.....also, do you have a/c..... if so it could be a problem with the
evaporator!!! Let me know... i'm a truck and transport mechanic and a ford
owner myself.

Nolan Woodbury wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Nolan Woodbury, and I'm a Ford owner again, after nearly 19
> years. As a way of introduction, I'm a industrial tool maker, and on the
> side do a lot of vintage motorcycle photography, and free lance writing,
> and of course....a the wife and kids thing too.
>
> Just recently, a good friend (who happens to be a used truck salesman) gave
> a call and said he had a real cherry on the lot....one owner, low miles,
> and would I be interested in having a look? In 1996, my trusty 1970 C10
> longbed (which I drove for 17 years) was stolen from my carport and never
> recovered. In the meantime, I'd fixed up a junker '73 C10, and although it
> ran well, the body was full of bondo, and the interior was wasted...I don't
> make payments on trucks for myself (I keep the wife in a newer Suburban) so
> I was looking to deal. I use my truck for my motorcycle projects, photo
> shoots, and rallies. Recently, I've been involved with a lot of out of town
> events, so I needed something a bit newer and better.
>
> This is not my first Ford; that was a 1965 Custom 500 2 door post (289,
> 2bbl, three-on-the-tree) that I bought as a junior in High School. I
> remember that car was a one owner Ford as well, a little old lady special.
> I'll never forget opening the ashtray and finding mints inside. It was a
> great car.
>
> I purchased this 1988 Ford F150 Custom for $4500. It's a long bed, silver
> and red, (with a matching shell) and a beautiful red interior. 302 FI,
> 5-speed OD, and the trailer towing option. 85K. Although the clutch sticks
> down a bit when cold (I did read the fix on the homepage however, and will
> get to it as time allows) the truck runs perfectly and drives wonderfully.
> I like it because of the _lack_ of troublesome (to me) options; no power
> windows, locks, or seat, no cruise, just PS, PB, air, and a nice stereo.
> Even red rubber flooring instead of carpet. PERFECT! Just the way I would
> have ordered it myself.
>
> However, one slight niggle is the "whooshing" or vacuum release noise when
> I shut the truck off....which seems to be coming from under the dash near
> the heater/AC controls. Everything is working perfectly...so what could it
> be? I have checked all the (that I can see) vacuum lines under the hood,
> and under the dash, I don't see any within reach. Do I have to get the
> tools out, or is this noise normal F150 owners?
>
> Funny thing: The first time I saw this truck and drove it, I pulled open
> the ashtray to have a peek, and it was full of mints! "I'll take it" I told
> my dealer friend.
>
> Nolan Woodbury
> Coolidge, AZ
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 11:30:19 -0400
From: colin jamieson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re:Rear Seal and Torque Converters

Nope.... if its a 302..... that is simply just common practise.... i've
never met an older 302 that didn't have the rear main engine seal leak!

bob chaytor wrote:

> And lastly, the attached message mentions "rear seal oil leakage
> similar to what you would expect from a bad pvc valve." My Cougar has a
>
> leaking rear seal, could it be related to the pvc? If it could be,
> could someone explain why that is?]
>
> The pcv valve (positive crankcase ventilation) , if not working will
> allow pressure to build up in your crankcase causing the rear seal to
> leak. The valve can plug up or in my case the inlet plugging up with
> scum not allowing air to flow through. Normally it is the pcv valve and
> they should be changed when ever a filter change is done.
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:44:32 -0600
From: "Anthony Rio"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:

Jim...

A dealer should be able to print it off for you. However, I have a good
dealer-freind who is willing to do this for me, you might have to B&moan at
your local to get it done.

Also, at one time Ford had a fax-back service where you could punch in the
number over the phone and the system would fax you a copy of it. Not sure
if the3y still have this.

Tony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Jim Kudulis
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 1999 8:21 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:
>
>
> Good Morning,
> Can anyone tell me where I can find the full text of a TSB?
> The one I am
> looking for is 97-13-22. This TSB has to do with excessive vibration and
> noise on a 1994 F250 in 4x2 with the hubs locked. My local Ford Service
> Dept. says that there is no problem, but I think they might be wrong.
> Sometimes it's so bad I can't hear the radio. All I can find are
> references
> to the TSB. I'd really like to find the complete text.
> Thanks,
> Jim Kudulis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:03:13 EST
From: RQTHOMSON aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rear Seal and Torque Converters

As far as the "shudder" I've had the same problem with my 94 E-150 & so far a
complete fluid change about every 40k miles has done the trick, BUT I don't do
any towing.
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:16:33 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Reply to Gas Milege Question

EJ,

I have a 1991 Ford F-250 460, E40D (rebuilt of course), 3:55 gears, dual
tanks, 4WD, lockut hubs, reg. cab. long bed, stock tires. I'm not sure what
you mean by "cruising range" but if this answers your question i get about 12
mpg in the city and 14 mpg on the highway. it cruises along at about 1600
rpm's at 55 mph.
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:16:02 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates

The following updates have been made to the Ford Truck Enthusiasts
web site.

1. New pictures in the 1915-1947, 1948-1952, 1961-1966 and 1997+
pictorial sections (note, we're still behind with the pictorials
and have about 20+ more trucks to add).

2. Events guide updated.

3. New links added to links page (we still have another 10 to add).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:49:16 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150

Nolan,

Although I've never had a problem with mine, I believe that I have heard of
some on this list who had the brake vaccuum booster rust out. Supposedly,
it makes a hissing noise that changes when you brake. Also, I think there
is a check valve somewhere that prevents the vaccuum from dumping back
through the intake system. With the engine off, you usually have enough
remaining vaccuum for a few pumps of the brake pedal before you've lost all
assist. I would try pumping the brakes after you turn the motor off to see
if your booster is holding vaccuum like it should.

Good luck.
Enjoy your truck.

Regards,
Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX


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From: Nolan Woodbury [mailto:rworthy goodnet.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 1999 11:12 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New to list- 1988 Ford F150


Hello everyone,

My name is Nolan Woodbury, and ...
...However, one slight niggle is the "whooshing" or vacuum release noise
when
I shut the truck off....which seems to be coming from under the dash near
the heater/AC controls. Everything is working perfectly...so what could it
be? I have checked all the (that I can see) vacuum lines under the hood,
and under the dash, I don't see any within reach. Do I have to get the
tools out, or is this noise normal F150 owners?
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:33:25 -0600
From: mike neely
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Broken plastic door panels

Anyone know a way to fix the inside palstic panels on the door? I have
a 94 F150 XLT and the kids and off road have taken a toll on the inside
plastic. The passenger door inside panel where the one of the screws
goes in has completely broken off so the panel rattles like crazy. I
have tried automotive Goop but it does not hold at all.



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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:32:34 -0800
From: "Mike"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem

85 F250 SC 4x4 6.9L w Banks turbo with a T-19 4 speed manual tranny.
This happened all of a sudden - Problem is the shift lever turns (rotates).
Major side to side play in the shift lever also. I can still get it in
1st -> 4th. ( with a great deal of effort). No reverse - just grinds. Anyone
BTDT? What is the fix? The linkage appears to be internal to the tranny . Is
this accessible through the side access openings or does the tranny need to
come out?

thanks,
mike


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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:13:29 EST
From: PSales264 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem

I just replaced my t-19. un screw the boot screws on the floor and slide the
boot up the lever, you will find at the top of the trans a dome that the lever
goes through, it is threaded to the trans cover , unscrew it. the lever is
nowfree from the trans , pick it up. To the left side there is a slot in the
lever roller that mates with the cover, there is a pin in the cover that slips
into that slot and keeps the lever from having too much side movement. that
pin just slides out of the place in the cover it my be worn, it may be broken
or the slot in the lever may be worn, ( doubtful) . If the pin is worn pull it
out and insert a new one then thread the dome back and close up. if the pin is
half or all missing replace it but also open the side cover to make sure you
get out any pieces that may have fallen into the tanny good luck PHIL SALES
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:24:38 -0800
From: "Bud Dean"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 92 F250 rear shoe question

Can someone help me out with this. I'm knew to doing the rear shoes.

When the pedal is depressed, are both shoes supposed to expand equally?

Prior to putting the drums back on, I pressed the pedal to make sure
everything was okay...the front shoe expanded a lot..but the rear expanded
only a little if at all...


Thanks in advance


Bud Dean


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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:22:56 -0800
From: "Mike"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem

- -----Original Message-----
From: PSales264 aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 T-19 Shifter problem


>I just replaced my t-19. un screw the boot screws on the floor and slide
the
>boot up the lever, you will find at the top of the trans a dome that the
lever
>goes through, it is threaded to the trans cover , unscrew it. the lever is
>nowfree from the trans , pick it up. To the left side there is a slot in
the
>lever roller that mates with the cover, there is a pin in the cover that
slips
>into that slot and keeps the lever from having too much side movement.
that
>pin just slides out of the place in the cover it my be worn, it may be
broken
>or the slot in the lever may be worn, ( doubtful) . If the pin is worn pull
it
>out and insert a new one then thread the dome back and close up. if the pin
is
>half or all missing replace it but also open the side cover to make sure
you
>get out any pieces that may have fallen into the tanny good luck PHIL SALES
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thanks for the info...sounds pretty easy to do.. Of course the timing
sucks - I am right in the middle of moving.

mike


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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:12:51 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 8.8" rear end prob.

Well I was supposed to have a locker for our trail ride on Saturday.
Unfortunately on Friday night, after we had pulled the cover on my 8.8 in
the the Bronco, I broke the bolt that retains the center pin when I tried to
take it out. Joe said that it looked like the bolt had already been broken.
Anyway it aprears that the break is at the bottom of the thread where the
pin part goes into the center pin, because the pin just spins in the hole
when we tried to drill it out. Any ideas on how to get it out without
cutting the carrier in half with a Sawzall? There is no access from the
other side of the carrier and the center pin is probably too hard to drill
through.

Rade Spasojevic -- rspasoje gte.net
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:26:39 -0600
From: Ezekial
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Important head question!!!!

This question is VERY important.....
I need to know what early 351w heads will fit my later model 93 F-150 to
get a little more power!! I want to find the 69's with the best flow,
am I correct on that?? I am looking to spend $300 give or take some for
the heads. I found a couple places to buy and need to find out if all
my engine accessories (ps, air) will bolt up correctly or a way to do
it. Or any other year head with better flow that will work.
Thanks in advance.... Derrick.

- --
1993 Ford F-150 4x4 Off-Road, ext.cab short bed, 351(5.8)
3.55 gears, 31x10.5 Daytona Stag LT
1988 Ford F-150 2wd 302(5.0) auto, long bed-reg cab
Has been totaled and I am re-building it
Was my Grandpas truck, so theres sentimental value
It had the meanest factory 302 I have ever seen
1966 Mustang Fastback 289HP heads, 302block, Holley 4bbl,....


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