80-96-list-digest Tuesday, March 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 075



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank
FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Perf - Warranty Shaft: Letter
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank
FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Perf - Warranty Shaft: Letter
FTE 80-96 - RE: Shawns Troubles
Re: FTE 80-96 - no backup lights
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Perf - Warranty Shaft: Letter

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:45:15 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank

There is a small "bicycle valve" that is used for this,although I'm not
sure if this is located upstream or downstream of the fuel pressure
regulator.
Should be on the fornt driver side of the fuel rail! Hope this helps.
got it thanks! What can I use to check this presure and what should the
presure read? at this point? remember, my truck has only 2 fuel pumps,
one in each tank.

I don't recall the specs off hand but right around 40 psi would be
correct!
The regular shold be on the back side toward the firewall.

yeah, its something else to get to.

Ever try changing the pcv valve yet? Between that and the fuel filter I
don't know what they were thinking when the engineered that!
Chris
94 lightning #381
NLOC #238
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:22:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Perf - Warranty Shaft: Letter

At 12:27 AM 3/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Gang,
>Attached is the letter that I have sent of f to the warranty company and the
>president/CEO of Republic Industries. Sorry to FTE for using up the bandwidth.

Let me relate an experience that recently happened and perhaps you'll see
that posting to the group was not the best thing to do (yet).

On the FTE web site BBS, a person posted a similar letter about a problem
they had with a company. Rather than tell the company that they would post
the message if the problem was not resolved, they simply posted it. The
company's record is tarnished, rightfully so, but the damage is already
done. If they had told the company that they would post the letter if
the issue wasn't resolved, the company would have a fair opportunity to
take care of the issue. I think your chances of having the issue resolved
have been reduced by this. In other words, look before you leap.

Ken Payne

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:30:02 -0600
From: "Chuck"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank

>
> There is a small "bicycle valve" that is used for this,although I'm not
> sure if this is located upstream or downstream of the fuel pressure
> regulator.
> Should be on the fornt driver side of the fuel rail! Hope this helps.
> got it thanks! What can I use to check this presure and what should the
> presure read? at this point? remember, my truck has only 2 fuel pumps,
> one in each tank.
>
> I don't recall the specs off hand but right around 40 psi would be
> correct!
> The regular shold be on the back side toward the firewall.
>
> yeah, its something else to get to.
>
> Ever try changing the pcv valve yet?

why would that cause it not to start the first time and start the second
time?

> Between that and the fuel filter I don't know what they were thinking when
the engineered that!

what do you mean by that?

Chuck
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ionet.net/~dtra

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:57:44 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank

Just referring to thing that are difficult to change. Sorry if I threw
you off, I was just commenting on Fords desigers. I would love to meet
the jserk who put those parts were they did, makes them impossible to
change.
The PCV valve is not the problem
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:19:25 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Perf - Warranty Shaft: Letter

Ken,
Thanks for the advice. BUT, this saga has been ongoing for 2 months now. I
have spoken with many representatives in as many branches of Republic
Industries as possible. I have yet to receive any kind of good response. Even
the General manager of the AutoNation where I bought the truck wont return my
calls. And this was before I even mentioned writing a letter or telling anyone
else of my experience. I have gone through countless "CUSTOMER SERVICE" reps
telling each and every one of them the exact same recountance of my experience
and each one keeps getting more and more assinine and talkative about what
they HAVE done for me. I believe I have given them as many opportunities as
they need to cough up a check for at least part of the parts and repair, which
by the way I placed on the table almost immediately for them to consider. You
know, it really sucks to pull that long knife out of your back from a company
that you have sung praises about.
Nuf Said,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"


In a message dated 3/15/99 11:23:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, kpayne ford-
trucks.com writes:


the issue wasn't resolved, the company would have a fair opportunity to
take care of the issue. I think your chances of having the issue resolved
have been reduced by this. In other words, look before you leap.

Ken Payne >>
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:00:08 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Shawns Troubles

Shawn wrote:

It is really kind of sad. The previous owner's records indicate that he
went to considerable effort to stay on top of the maintenance, take care of
recalls, etc. Yet this truck still breaks every chance it gets: E4OD
replaced (still troublesome), poorly designed exhaust manifold cracked, EVP
Sensor failed twice, AC pressure switch died, AC fittings all leaked and
were replaced, both power window gear sets failed, one power door lock
actuator died, ignition switch died, throttle cable failed, windshield
wiper knob broke off (thank God for JB Weld), oil sender unit died, most
major seals and gaskets replaced due to leaks ($600 worth of gaskets and
seal work), battery cable died, and all of the paint is coming off. The
scary part is that from talking to other Ford owners, none of these items
is a rare occurrence although all of them on one truck *might* be rare. If
"Quality is Job 1" at Ford, then I guess I'm Elvis. Spending 20 cents per
mile on maintenance does not indicate quality to me.

Don't you step on my blue suede shoes,

Shawn


Of your problems Shawn, I share:

Brakes, E4OD, Manifold crack, A/C Compressor, and Condenser? (the one in
the dash) , Passanger power lock actuator, and Leaky rear main seal.....

That said, I still like my Ford better than any Chevy, and most Dodges!!!!

Heck, what kind of world would no troble be? Answer: Utopia
(unabtainable)

Dave H.
Houston, TX
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:18:04 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - no backup lights

The switch that controls this on my 1980 F-150 is mounted on the side of
the transmission. Yours probably is also.

I would say:
1. Check fuse. If blown, resolve the short before putting another fuse in.
2. Check bulbs. They might both be blown.
3. Check switch on tranny. Wires tight? Remove wires and jump across with
something. If lights work, switch is bad. If not, see if any power to one
wire, and start tracing forward or backward from there.

Good luck.

At 22:35 14/03/99 EST, you wrote:
>I have no backup lights. Anybody have this problem before. This is on an
>88 E-350. I have not started tracing it back yet just looking for helpful
>hints. Is the actuator switch on the automatic transmission or in the
>shift column?

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton
'63 Buick Riviera
'80 Ford F-150
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:38:55 -0600
From: "Chuck"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Garr&Pam
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 10:58 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Hard starting from rear tank
>
>
> Just referring to thing that are difficult to change. Sorry if I threw
> you off, I was just commenting on Fords desigers. I would love to meet
> the jserk who put those parts were they did, makes them impossible to
> change.
> The PCV valve is not the problem

Ok, I agree though
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:20:37 EST
From: STEPSI3742 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Perf - Warranty Shaft: Letter

Wayne,

You need to get yourself a handgun and visit this place and demand action,
and maybe put someone in the chokehold.

Just jokin',

TJ
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