80-96-list-digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 069



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Intermittent Speedometer
FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD fluid changes
FTE 80-96 - EEC-IV page
Re: FTE 80-96 - Clutch pedal spring & bracket
FTE 80-96 - RE:Speedometer Quit Working
FTE 80-96 - Trans cooler
FTE 80-96 - REAR ANTI-LOCK LITE
Re: FTE 80-96 - Trans cooler
FTE 80-96 - Not The Throttle Position Sensor on 7.3L IDI Diesel!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Not The Throttle Position Sensor on 7.3L IDI Diesel!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Not The Throttle Position Sensor on 7.3L IDI Diesel!
FTE 80-96 - Airbag idiot light
Re: FTE 80-96 - Airbag idiot light
Re: FTE 80-96 - Airbag idiot light
FTE 80-96 - mpg
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-150 Power Door Lock Problems

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:59:11 -0500
From: Greg Carter
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Intermittent Speedometer

Hi,

I have a 91 F250, 5.0L, 5 Speed. The speedometer will work correctly when
the truck is cold, but after about 10 min of driving it is off by about 30
Km, eventually it will stop working, then kick back in for a bit, then read
incorrectly, then stop again. The cruse control works fine during all this.
I have checked the connection at the transmission and even disconnected it
and reconnected (after a clutch job), no visible signs of wear on the gears.
Still does the same thing.

Anyone ever had this happen?
Thanks.
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Greg Carter, Entrust Technologies
greg.carter entrust.com

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 05:34:43 -0800 (PST)
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD fluid changes

Mark, I used the Castrol synthetic trans fluid in mine and did the
changeover about 18K miles ago. Are you draining the convertor when you
change fluid? I'm not going to this time;it's way too expensive at 5
bucks a quart. The only problem I've ever had with mine was failure of
the PCM due to installation of the shift plus by B&M. I haven't replaced
the processor yet.It's still under the hood (removed from its left kick
panel location) wrapped in a plastic bag and connected,as my wife uses
it daily.How many of you on the list have experienced PCM failures due
to the shift plus peice of crap???

Randy Goolsby-94 Bronco EB/85 F250 4x4

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 06:23:20 -0800
From: johnhfleming juno.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - EEC-IV page

The manual from this site has been excellent in helping me troubleshoot
the emissions sys on my older Ranger. It covers from early/mid '80's to
'94 EEC-IV systems. Jeff has been great with his help .

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dalidesign.com/hbook/hb6.html

John.

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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 09:57:02 -0500
From: John DeVincentis
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Clutch pedal spring & bracket

TJ L.,
We made a small steel right angle bracket and bolted it onto the big metal bracket on the firewall. We drilled and tapped
2 new holes in the big metal bracket and bolted on the new right angle bracket. It is working fine now.
Good luck and thanks for the reply.

John Dee



> John Dee,
> The same thing happened to my truck. I thought that the piece that broke was
> a piece of the firewall. Anyway I'm going to make a part that will bolt to the
> existing broken piece in the firewall.
>
> TJ L.
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John Dee

John DeVincentis
MITRE Corporation
202 Burlington Road M/S E090
Bedford, Massachusetts 01730
781-271-2442 (PHONE)
781-271-8583 (FAX)
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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:35:39 -0600
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:Speedometer Quit Working

Did you check the fuse box under the hood too? With all the items you listed
out, it definitely seems like a major fuse blown somewhere. Or even some
fusible link that we don't know about yet.
Let the list know when you figure it out, otherwise we don't learn.
Steve

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:20:05 -0500
From: "PmctBaker"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Trans cooler

hey,

you all convinced me to get the trans cooler, even tho I dont tow more than
once or twice a year. but I do pull alot of people out of the snow or mud
so,
im going to order the 14,000lb rated cooler, from JC Whitney tomorrow. im
getting the Gabriel Extra Heavy Duty Gas Shocks too. is the cooler going
to be enough? ive got the 1985 F-150 4x4 351w C-6, and does anyone know how
these shocks ride too?

thanks
mike baker
pmbaker your-net.com
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:02:37 PST
From: 2insane excite.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - REAR ANTI-LOCK LITE

Yup, my 89 F-150 does have rear anti-locks, having been put through my test.
drive down a ice and snowy road at about 30 mph, open the door and look out
at your tires as u slam on the brake. my rears kept spinning as my front
ones locked up.
that solves that confusion.




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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:18:34 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Trans cooler

i swear by the gabriel shocks they last a decent amount of time and they seem
to take whatever i throw in the truck and pull ( my trucks get beat on ) and i
even through them in the wife's minivan plus the auto parts guys here give me
less hassle changing the blown ones( Ok i blew one shock and switched the pair
on the rear axel after alot of miles) than they did with the monroes i used
to use until i got gabriels
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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:21:22 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Not The Throttle Position Sensor on 7.3L IDI Diesel!

Guys

I went down a talked to our local Ford Dealer here in Hardin, IL. They said
that the EEC is only for the transmission not for the engine. I know this guy
pretty well so i trust him. I told him about the truck and they said it would
be: an air leak somewhere, the mechanical fuel pump went bad, or the injection
pump went bad. Of course it would be the damn injection pump. I should have
known trouble was coming when a leak formed about 3 months ago. I guess I
will have to jerk that stupid thing off there and have it rebuilt. I wonder
how much that will cost? We just put a $2000 transmission in it (E40D of
course). As for the throttle sticking and the knock a idle all the time, i
fixed the throttle sticking and he said if it is one of those three things are
wrong with it then you might here a little extra knock.

Oh one more thing, we both have rebuilt E40D transmissions. I was wondering
if we should stick with Dextron Mercon 3, or go to a synthetic oil since
E40D's are know to break the oil down and give it a burnt smell. If i should
go with synthetic what kind should i get?

Thanks
Paul
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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:47:14 EST
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Not The Throttle Position Sensor on 7.3L IDI Diesel!

ACTUAUALLY, IT IS EEC V
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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:46:50 EST
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Not The Throttle Position Sensor on 7.3L IDI Diesel!

I don't know about your car, but I do know FOR A FACT that the 7.3 diesel in
the superduty's is ran off of the eec, under the system of "EEC IV"

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:08:00 -0800
From: "David Shanks"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Airbag idiot light

I've got a '94 F-150, and recently the airbag idiot light on the dash has
started flashing while I'm driving. It'll flash three times, pause and
repeat forever while I'm driving. Can anyone tell me what this means? I
assume there's some fault in the airbag system, but I'd like a little more
information before I go talk to the dealer.

Thanks for any help you can give.

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:27:02 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Airbag idiot light

be careful ive heard of these things deployin if theres a malfunction with the
system (for no apparent reason ) get the truck in.. see guys thats why i love
my 1989.. when i have dual airbags, im takin my ex and ex mother in law to
town LOL
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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:36:21 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Airbag idiot light

David,
According to the TSB and recall put out by Ford it could be one of 2
things...the recall was on the Airbag diagnostic monitor. I believe that it
was a faulty part and was causing the bag to deploy at inopportune times. The
TSB #'s are as follows
TSB # 95211 Nov 95 Air Bag modules Discolored/Marred
TSB #9548 Feb 95 Concerning Code 51 -Airbag System
This list is from the latest TSB update from ALLDATA. I have yet to receive my
software to go into the detail we ALL need to interpret these things. As soon
as I get it I'll post any and all info anyone requests of the TSB list. Have
your local Ford dealer tell you the circumstances and have them look at the
recall status of your truck (have them run an OASIS). This will tell them if
it has been taken care of.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"
Wayne's Flareside Page



In a message dated 3/9/99 8:19:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dshanks teleport.com writes:


started flashing while I'm driving. It'll flash three times, pause and
repeat forever while I'm driving. Can anyone tell me what this means? I
assume there's some fault in the airbag system, but I'd like a little more
information before I go talk to the dealer.

Thanks for any help you can give.
>>
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 20:29:09 -0700
From: "Sean W. Murphy"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - mpg

Hi all, I've been a subscriber to this list for about 5 months now but
never posted. I thought I'd introduce myself and my truck. I bought my
truck about 6 months ago. It's an 85 F250HD 2WD Supercab, GVWR 8800lbs,
351, C6, 4.10 gears. The previous owner hauled a 5th wheel among other
large trailers. I will tow a 7 - 8000 lb trailer from time to time,
which I must say it does with ease (in fact I think it drives much nicer
with a load). I absolutely love the truck, and other than the normal
maint/repairs a new owner does to an old truck I haven't had any
problems to speak of (starter and u-joints being the most major so
far). I'm fairly mech. inclined and I've rebuilt other engines in the
past. My only disappointment is the gas mileage (I know I'm not the
only one!) My question is, does anyone think that swapping the 4.10s
for a higher ratio will yield any real improvement? I'm getting about
10 mpg now, and it doesn't seam to matter where or how I drive. Half of
my mileage is on the freeways at about 75 mph. Anyone with a 3 speed
and 4.10s will know that it sounds like an all out war under the hood at

that speed. I'd like to lower the Rs significantly, but I can't really
afford to loose much guts at the line (after all it is a heavy truck an
is already somewhat sluggish). Fuel prices here in Arizona are only
about $1 per gallon right now, so the mileage increase needs to be
somewhat significant. Thanks in advance for your comments.

Sean

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:09:41 -0500
From: "Cliff Boltz"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-150 Power Door Lock Problems

When the boot is torn, water gets into the motor and eventually seizes it. I
was having to replace actuators about every two years. The last one I
replaced, I drilled four small holes in the bottom to let moisture drain and
packed the boot full of grease(be careful where you drill). that actuator
has been ok for over five years now. You may be able to get yours working,
but it probably won't last.
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From: Shawn & Jennifer Clark
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 1999 1:06 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-150 Power Door Lock Problems


>I'm hoping someone can offer some guidance on the following problem.
>I have a 1991 F-150 which has a sticky driver's side lock. The problem
>appeared this Fall rather suddenly and has not gone away. I have
>lubricated the lock with graphite but this seems to make little difference.
> The action is hard to turn with key or by pulling or pushing the knob.
>The power lock button rarely works now (and "protests" when it does.) The
>passenger side works fine in all three modes (key, manual, power). Today I
>pulled the inside panel off to work on it, but made little progress. I
>lubricated everything, but this did not seem to help. Finally, I pulled
>the torn rubber boot off of the actuator and sprayed penetrant down it's
>shaft. This helped some, since the power lock began to work about 75% of
>the time. I'm still uncertain as to what is making it stick, but I suspect
>the actuator itself is binding. When moving the rod by hand it sometimes
>is difficult to get moving. Anyone seen this same problem before? If so,
>how do you get the actuator out? I could not find any screws or bolts to
>remove, and was unable to pop it out. And I have no idea how to release
>the push rod from the door latch assembly. There are clear signs that
>someone had worked in the door in the past (I've had the truck for 18
>months). My guess is that they replaced the poorly designed OEM power
>window gears--as I had to do last year on the passenger side.....


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