80-96-list-digest Monday, January 11 1999 Volume 03 : Number 006



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Change Transmission Fluid
FTE 80-96 - check engine light
Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light
Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light
Re: FTE 80-96 - Computer codes
Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light
Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light
FTE 80-96 - Off Topic, Lincoln 430-V8 and a C-6
Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light
FTE 80-96 - Changing Transmission Fluid
Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing Transmission Fluid
FTE 80-96 - Engine Code Reader
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: TruckTough.com
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Code Reader
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Code Reader
FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!
FTE 80-96 - Misc Parts
FTE 80-96 - A little more (or more usefull) torque from my 5.0L????
RE: FTE 80-96 - checking flatness head/block
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:00:49 -0500
From: Tom Gunby
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Change Transmission Fluid

Have '86 F150 4x2 w/ 302 EFI & auto trans (c6?). Truck has 95M miles
and I would like to change the transmission fluid. Was told by local
mechanic that changing the fliud could cause the transmission to slip??
I don't follow the logic behind his statement. Also, in researching the
task on the internet, I found a comment about draining the "torque
converter" in addition to removing the pan to drain the transmission
fluid. The description of draining the torque converter included
removal of a plate from the front of the transmission and turning the
engine over to get to the torque converter drain plug. This seems much
more complicated than I anticipated. Is draining of the torque
converter necessary in addition to removing the pan to drain the
transmission fluid? Finally, is there any type of "filter" to be
changed in connection with this job? Sorry for so many questions but
better to ask than do it wrong or not do it at all.
Thank you.
Tom Gunby

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 09:26:36 EST
From: Croth2 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - check engine light

I have an 89 F-150 4x4 with a 5.0. just recently I noticed after I started
the truck and drove a few miles the check engine light would blink 3 or 4
times and then go off, it keep doing this every once in awhile. My oil
pressure is good, my temperature is fine, I dont know if something is wrong or
if the sensor is bad. A friend of mine has a 5.0 in his truck and his check
engine light stays on. I've just started noticing this problem a week ago,
and the temperature has been below zero for the last 2 weeks, not sure if that
could be a factor. any suggestions??
- -->Tim
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:10:02 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light

Run your engine codes.
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab

Croth2 aol.com wrote:
I have an 89 F-150 4x4 with a 5.0. Just recently I noticed after I started
the truck and drove a few miles the check engine light would blink 3 or 4
times and then go off, it keep doing this every once in a while.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:52:59 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light

Tim,

There could be two things i can think of that woudl make that light come one.
If your truck isn't heating up to its correct tempature, that will cause the
check engine light to come on. The other is if you have modified the exhaust
it will also cause it to come on. If its from the exhaust i would just take
the bulb out. that's what i did. good luck

Paul
Owner of: 1991 Ford F-250 Pickup 460c.i., True duel exhaust no converter only
2 18 inch glass packs
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:13:25 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Computer codes

FLR150 aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey gang,
> OK...I have a code that keeps coming up and I am puzzled. It comes up on the
> KOEO test and it is the only code that comes up, and I also have no codes on
> the continuous codes. It is the code 511 which is stated as "Electronic
> Control Assembly (ECA) problem-Read-only Memory (ROM) Test Failure." I have
> tried disconnecting the negative terminal and letting the ECM reset. And then
> warming the engine back up again and retesting in the KOEO mode. I keep
> getting the same code. The only thing I haven't done is pull my chip and retry
> to run the codes. Does this code mean that my ECM is toast?
>
I don't think so. Likely the chip isn't seated properly. Is this the
original one? Get some fancy terminal cleaner stuff from radio shak (or
elsewhere). Tell them i't to seat a computer chip properly.

_Very_ _Carefully_ remove the chicp, clean it and then _VERY_CAREFULLY_
reseat the chip. Cheap, and may be the problem. The cleaner can also be
used on other electronic stuff.

And _BE_CAREFUL_ removing and installing the chip carefully.

- --
Andre, Somewhere ...
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:48:16 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light

TAKE THE BULB OUT? NO,NO,NO,NO,NO. FIX IT THE RIGHT WAY.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:52:38 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light

If you changed the exhaust, that light will always come on. There is no way
to turn it off. I have tried but there is no way, that's why it took mine
out.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:01:02 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Off Topic, Lincoln 430-V8 and a C-6

Pardon the off-topic. I found a 430 V8 and C6 that the owner
is giving away. I know it's an oldie. I am not all familiar
with this engine. Any help?

Bob


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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:45:53 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light

Changing the exhaust alone shouldn't bring on the check engine light. If
however you didn't install the HEGO sensor in your new exhaust, the light
will stay on. You will also get a code telling you so.
If the check engine light is on, there is a problem. Your engine probably
won't be running as well as it can.

Matt


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From: WoodStck45 aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: January 10, 1999 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - check engine light


>If you changed the exhaust, that light will always come on. There is no
way
>to turn it off. I have tried but there is no way, that's why it took mine
>out.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:42:18 -0500
From: Tom Gunby
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Changing Transmission Fluid

This is a follow-up to my earlier post about changing the trans fluid in
my '86 F150 302 with non-OD trans. Man at parts house sold me the
filter for a non-overdrive trans and five qts. of Dexron-III (yes III,
not II) transmission fluid (said the fluid/filter change should require
about 4.5 qts). Back of the bottle says is it is for trans requiring
Dexron-III, Dexron-IIE, Dexron II-D, Dexron, Mercon, Ford M2C166-H or
Ford MC2C138CJ. My owner's manual indicates a Ford part name of
"Motorcraft Automatic Transmission Fluid - Type H" and a "Ford
specification" of ESP-M2C166-H so it appears (at least from the
specification) that I got the right stuff. Peculiar that the owner's
manual also says specification is printed on the dipstick which says
"warranty requires Dexron II oil" which shows in my owner's manual to be
for the AOD transmission. Is what I bought ok or do I need to return
and get something else? Thanks for any help.
Tom Gunby

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:32:00 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Changing Transmission Fluid

Tom Gunby wrote:
>
> This is a follow-up to my earlier post about changing the trans fluid in
> my '86 F150 302 with non-OD trans. ......

> ........ Peculiar that the owner's
> manual also says specification is printed on the dipstick which says
> "warranty requires Dexron II oil" which shows in my owner's manual to be
> for the AOD transmission. Is what I bought ok or do I need to return
> and get something else? Thanks for any help.
>
That's the right stuff. Dexron III supercedes Dexron II. Anything
designed for DII can use DIII. No Problems. Wrench Away.

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Andre, Somewhere ...
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:49:07 -0800
From: Erston Reisch
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engine Code Reader

List,

New member here, just picked up my '90 F-150 Friday. It's a 300, Auto 4x2
(A4OD, I think - it's got the OD disable button on the dash). It's my first
pickup, and I've been really happy - why didn't I buy one sooner? :)

The posts about the check engine light caught my eye: My light is coming on
occasionally and turning off after 5-30 seconds. It seems random, but I think
it's happening when I come off the throttle.. so my question:

I've heard about "code readers" to check the codes, but I don't know who makes
these, where to buy them, and how much they should cost. Any advice or
suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I'm no stranger to auto
electronics, but this is my first Ford product and I don't know where to
start.

Thanks in advance,

- - Erston



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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:06:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: TruckTough.com

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:38:28 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Code Reader

Hey Erston,
You can jump the eec plug under the hood, and count the # of times the check
engine light flashes. Listen up guys, I have enclosed a site that will tell
you step by step how to do it. put it in your favorite places for future
reference. good luck.

Joe-Flashwax.com

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.shotimes.com/SHO3eeccodes.html
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:59:53 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Code Reader

check damark catalogue it has one for $29.99 and it works well.. it works on
Ford and Chevy and it gives you complete code listings too
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:59:09 PST
From: "Bret Luter"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!

Once again I need the help of this list.

My '85 F350 6.9l crew cab has been running fine lately after much
troubleshooting and many small repairs.

BUT today, I drove it about 25 miles, parked it and worked on another
vehicle most of the day (that must have been the problem, jealousy!).

When I got ready to start it up to leave for home, I had no power to
anything electrical, none, zero, zip, nada... Assuming something must
have drained the batteries, I checked and got 12.6v on both batteries!

I looked around for loose/broken/burnt wires or connections but found
none, all fuses are ok. Something big must be broken because I have no
headlights, instruments, radio, interior lights, nothing! It was too
dark and too cold to keep checking things so here's where I need your
help. What do I look for? Anyone ever experience anything like this?

Right now I'm off to check the wiring diagrams to see what I can find.

I'd appreciate any and all input.

Bret Luter, Raleigh, NC
'85 F350 6.9l diesel with no juice!

p.s.- lately I've noticed the headlights pulsating slightly at idle,
they burn evenly when you rev the motor, I've heard this could be a
voltage regulator problem?? Could this be related?

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:19:39 -0800
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!

Bret Luter wrote:
>
> Once again I need the help of this list.
>
> When I got ready to start it up to leave for home, I had no power to
> anything electrical, none, zero, zip, nada... Assuming something must
> have drained the batteries, I checked and got 12.6v on both batteries!

If you do not have a load on the battery, you will get a false reading
with a meter. Turn on the Headlights and check the battery voltage.
Probably very low.
Paul in Portland OR
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:42:08 -0800
From: Dana Bartholomew
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!

Bret Luter wrote:

> When I got ready to start it up to leave for home, I had no power to
> anything electrical, none, zero, zip, nada... Assuming something must
> have drained the batteries, I checked and got 12.6v on both batteries!
>


Bret,

Be sure to check that your ground and positive leads at the battery are
tight and clean. I've had similar problems the resulted from corrosion
betweem the battery and the cable.

Dana Bartholomew
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:00:34 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Misc Parts

Hey guys! After I finally fix my wobbly steering column I've found out that I
need to replace my steering wheel. It seems that the contact rings on the
back of the wheel is part of the assembly and cannot be ordered separately.
So I must purchase a whole wheel. Does anyone out there have a leather
wrapped steering wheel for a 92? I'm also looking for a dual tank long bed.
If anybody has one or can point me in the direction of said parts I would
greatly appreciate it. Thanks again.

Joe
Lost in Jersey
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:03:07 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - A little more (or more usefull) torque from my 5.0L????

JC Whitney (yeah yeah I know) has a cam selection that includes 5 different
performance levels. I like letter A, best power 1000-3000 RPM Smooth
Idle.

Would I really feel a difference from such a cam?

My truck runs way better than I first thought after getting it back from
dealer...and a change of Fan Clutch didn't hurt either!

But it would be really neat if 2000 RPM was "gettin' it" range!!!

I still am looking for sure if 97-99 1/2 ton wheels will bolt on my 92???

Thanks in Advance!!!

Dave H.
dharmier gte.net
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:18:44 -0600
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - checking flatness head/block

Find the specs for the head. If I remember right they are in units like
.01"/12" or something like that. I used a metal straightedge from a
machine shop and feeler gauges. You put the straightedge on the head
and measure any gaps with the feeler gauges.


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From: JSC721 aol.com [mailto:JSC721 aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 10:06 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - checking flatness head/block


Hey guys,
Thanks for your help with the antifreeze odor problem. It turned out to
be the
head gasket. Its blowing the coolant out thru the exhaust. not in the
oil
pan.did a pressure test and it holds strong , but its going and im doing
the
job right now.

My question is what is the best way to check the head and block for
flatness?
89 300 6 cyl. I am down to the head and will pull it off sat. any other
tips
will be appreciated.

Joe
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:17:43 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 F350 6.9l power off!

A few things:
Take some jumper cables and connect one to the Negative side of Battery and
the other to the block. This confirms the grounding.

You said two batteries? Is there an isolator switch involved?

Hope this helps....

Bob


Bret Luter wrote:

> Once again I need the help of this list.
>
> My '85 F350 6.9l crew cab has been running fine lately after much
> troubleshooting and many small repairs.
>
> BUT today, I drove it about 25 miles, parked it and worked on another
> vehicle most of the day (that must have been the problem, jealousy!).
>
> When I got ready to start it up to leave for home, I had no power to
> anything electrical, none, zero, zip, nada... Assuming something must
> have drained the batteries, I checked and got 12.6v on both batteries!
>
> I looked around for loose/broken/burnt wires or connections but found
> none, all fuses are ok. Something big must be broken because I have no
> headlights, instruments, radio, interior lights, nothing! It was too
> dark and too cold to keep checking things so here's where I need your
> help. What do I look for? Anyone ever experience anything like this?
>
> Right now I'm off to check the wiring diagrams to see what I can find.
>
> I'd appreciate any and all input.
>
> Bret Luter, Raleigh, NC
> '85 F350 6.9l diesel with no juice!
>
> p.s.- lately I've noticed the headlights pulsating slightly at idle,
> they burn evenly when you rev the motor, I've heard this could be a
> voltage regulator problem?? Could this be related?
>
> ______________________________________________________
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