80-96-list-digest Tuesday, February 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 053



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve
FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve
FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve
Re: FTE 80-96 - Electrical Radiator Fan
FTE 80-96 - Timing Cover still a Problem :-(
FTE 80-96 - Front/Rear tank mileage difference
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Horsepower/torque etc.
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1989 Gas Tanks
Re: FTE 80-96 - New Tailpipes
Re: FTE 80-96 - lifter click and rear diff
Re: FTE 80-96 - Marine battery
Re: FTE 80-96 - Front/Rear tank mileage difference
Re: FTE 80-96 - 89 Info
Re: FTE 80-96 - Marine battery
Re: FTE 80-96 - Electrical Radiator Fan
FTE 80-96 - RE: Marine Batery
Re: FTE 80-96 - 89 Info
Re: FTE 80-96 - Front/Rear tank mileage difference
Re: FTE 80-96 - Marine battery
Re: FTE 80-96 - Running wires from brake control...
FTE 80-96 - R E M O V E M E
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: pilot bearing
FTE 80-96 - Regarding "Interceptor" for E4OD trans......
Re: FTE 80-96 - Regarding "Interceptor" for E4OD trans..and AODE owners warn....
FTE 80-96 - need some advice
Re: FTE 80-96 - Timing Cover still a Problem :-(
Re: FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve
FTE 80-96 - 95 F-150 clunks

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:20:58 PST
From: "Steve Likness"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve

As many of you know, I have been in the process of swapping my 300 I6
for a 351W in my '82 Ford F150, 2WD. I purchased an EGR valve the other
day and discovered it had optional washers to insert depending on the
EGR number of the old valve. Well, the valve on my old I6 does not
match up with anything on the list. I've modified the '82 Windsor
engine with an '84-'86 EGR plate and 4V carb. Does anyone have an
'84-'86 351W that would share their EGR number with me? The EGR number
is usually on a decal on the front of the valve.

Thanks,

Steve

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:20:58 PST
From: "Steve Likness"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve

As many of you know, I have been in the process of swapping my 300 I6
for a 351W in my '82 Ford F150, 2WD. I purchased an EGR valve the other
day and discovered it had optional washers to insert depending on the
EGR number of the old valve. Well, the valve on my old I6 does not
match up with anything on the list. I've modified the '82 Windsor
engine with an '84-'86 EGR plate and 4V carb. Does anyone have an
'84-'86 351W that would share their EGR number with me? The EGR number
is usually on a decal on the front of the valve.

Thanks,

Steve

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:20:59 PST
From: "Steve Likness"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve

As many of you know, I have been in the process of swapping my 300 I6
for a 351W in my '82 Ford F150, 2WD. I purchased an EGR valve the other
day and discovered it had optional washers to insert depending on the
EGR number of the old valve. Well, the valve on my old I6 does not
match up with anything on the list. I've modified the '82 Windsor
engine with an '84-'86 EGR plate and 4V carb. Does anyone have an
'84-'86 351W that would share their EGR number with me? The EGR number
is usually on a decal on the front of the valve.

Thanks,

Steve

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:49:02 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Electrical Radiator Fan

Justen R. Noakes wrote:

> I'm always looking to make my truck run better. A buddy suggested
> I remove the belt driven radiator fan and clutch and replace it with an
> electrical driven fan. He stated this would reduce the stress on my engine,
> especially when running the AC; and would help by reducing the weight
> of the vehicle by the amount of the clutch and the fan. My only hesitation
> is the cooling capability of the electrical fan. I live in central Texas so
> it is
> not unusual for it to reach 100+ in the summer.
>
> All thoughts and feedback are appreciated.


Justen,
I really don't know if they are more efficent, or exaclty
how good they are. But don't put one on because of the
weight. If your truck can't handle 5 lbs. then I would
trade it in.

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Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:13:51 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Timing Cover still a Problem :-(

Guys,
Well, I got my Bronco back together on Staurday. Everything looks
good and
clean. The painted timing cover, painted new waterpump, painted fan
housing, painted
waterpump pulley, painted crankshaft pulley, painted compressor bracket
and
alternator bracket, also painted the valve cover and air fitler housing,
and replaced
all three belts and all the hoses. Then chainged out oil and
anit-freeze. Sos I got all
the connections together and the Brown Bull fired right up after
nine days of
being dismantled in the garage. Well, the Bronco purred like a tiger
even with the
carb(rebuilt I might add) :-). I will get some pics , but now I still
have a problem. :-(
The damn rubber oil seal that goes between the timing gear cover( I
dont have a timing
chain) and oilpan mustv moved and is seeping out there just above the
bottom bolt. The
problem is that rubber seal needs to be compressed I guess I didnt get
it compressed enough and keep it in position at the same time. I
loosened some of the oilpan bolts to drop the oilpan a little so I could
draw it back up tight but like I said it mustv moved on me. Well, I
guess my next step is to just drop the oilpan replace the cork and
rubber seal and get that rubber seal to compress that way. Any tips and
tricks of the trade on dropping the oilpan or other alternatives would
be welcomed. kinda frustrated in Dixieland. :-( , but
were purring like a tiger. :-)

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:17:44 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Front/Rear tank mileage difference

My son is getting considerably different mileage between the front and rear
tanks on his 95 F-150. Like 14 on rear and 18 on the front. He also says
he experiences low power and cutting out when running on the rear tank and
climbing mountain passes at high altitude. The front tank has normal power.
I suspect a leak into the front tank when he is switched to the rear tank
but don't know how the reverse flow valving is done with the dual pump
system. Any ideas what may be the problem here?

Larry
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:41:20 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Horsepower/torque etc.

>>There's no replacement for displacement.
>
>The actual quote is "There's no substitute for cubes!" I wish I knew who
>said it!!!
>
That may be, but it just didn't sound right to me ... no rhyme or anything ...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:12:39 EST
From: Copbdybldr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1989 Gas Tanks

the difference between the AOD and the E4OD is the E4OD is a heavy duty
tranni, like a C-6 with overdrive.
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:17:48 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New Tailpipes

>Anyone know why the new F-150's have their tailpipes once again
>dumping Behind the rear wheel like they always had; until the redesigned
>F-150 came out a few years ago when they started to dump the exhaust in
>Front of the rear wheel. I'm just curious. Walt

I imagine some states require that the exhaust actually exit behind the
axle. I know in IA the law is that it exits near or at the rear axle, so
there were probably issues with other states (California and Pennsylvania
come to mind)...


Just my 2cents

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:15:51 EST
From: Copbdybldr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - lifter click and rear diff

If it's your rocker arm, like your dad said, replace it!
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:19:48 EST
From: Copbdybldr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Marine battery

your marine battery prob doesn't have the cranking amps of the other battery,
but it will allow you to run it down to nothing then it will charge right back
up.
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:22:22 EST
From: Copbdybldr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Front/Rear tank mileage difference

Hi Larry,

I'm having the same problem except in reverse. my front tank is the 1 giving
me problems. I heard there is a recall on ford trucks with fuel problems.
check with your local dealer.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:36:16 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 89 Info

My dad recently (late last week) purchased an 89 F250 4x4 5.8L . My sister
has a similar truck, though its a 91 5.0L. My questions are :

1) how can we tell if these are HDs or LDs ? Anything obvious ?
2) 91 is Multi port ... 89 dad thinks is TBI, though he hasn't looked for
sure, is this right ? when was the changeover ?
3) 91 has E4OD, 89 has C6??? Its only got 3 gears he said ... how hard
would it be to swap in an OD tranny ? Can the E4OD handle it ? I would
think so since it was used behind the lightnings ...

Anything else I should know about the truck ? He claims its "only" getting
10mpg, but I didn't think that was too bad if it really is a 3speed with
4.10 gears ... Haven't seen the truck yet, but its supposed to be nice,
white w/red interior. Clearance lights and 3 hitches (bumper, 5th ag
style, and one other that I didn't really understand dad's description of).

Anyway if anyone can pass on any info that'd be great!

Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:52:48 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Marine battery

Copbdybldr aol.com wrote:

> your marine battery prob doesn't have the cranking amps of the other battery,
> but it will allow you to run it down to nothing then it will charge right back
> up.

Guys,
you just gave me an idea. Sure wish my wife knew I
can think for myself. :-)

Knowing this info you guys have given me. I think a marine
battery would be a perfect solution to my two battery setup
on the bronco for running the winch(not that I ever need it :-) ).
As well as runnning lights at night while having to chainsaw
through a tree, or a combination of both. When my current
auxillary battery(Walmart Special) goes out I will seriously
look at buying one of the marine ones.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:37:29 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Electrical Radiator Fan

>I'm always looking to make my truck run better. A buddy suggested
>I remove the belt driven radiator fan and clutch and replace it with an
>electrical driven fan. He stated this would reduce the stress on my engine,
>especially when running the AC; and would help by reducing the weight
>of the vehicle by the amount of the clutch and the fan. My only hesitation
>is the cooling capability of the electrical fan. I live in central Texas so
>it is
>not unusual for it to reach 100+ in the summer.
>
>All thoughts and feedback are appreciated.
>
I'd say check Steve Delanty's site. He used to be on the Performance
and/or 61-79 lists, but no one's heard from him for a while.

There might be a link on the FTE site under how to's or there should be a
link off of my links page ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:04:21 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Marine Batery

I can't remember if I've asked this already so forgive me if I'm being
redundant. My '93 F350 has a marine battery in it. Had it when I
bought it(I don't know how old it is). My old truck, which I'm trying
to sell, has a two year old Sears Die Hard gold in it. Should I swap
them before I sell my old truck ot stick with the deep cycle? I've
heard differing opinions on deep cycles in an automotive application.
What do you think?
- -----
We run Deep Cycle batteries in all of our equipment her in Anchorage. I
swear by them. (if it will fit) keep the darn thing.
Bart-AK

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:37:39 -0800
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 89 Info

>My dad recently (late last week) purchased an 89 F250 4x4 5.8L . My sister
>has a similar truck, though its a 91 5.0L. My questions are :
>
>1) how can we tell if these are HDs or LDs ? Anything obvious ?
>2) 91 is Multi port ... 89 dad thinks is TBI, though he hasn't looked for
>sure, is this right ? when was the changeover ?
>3) 91 has E4OD, 89 has C6??? Its only got 3 gears he said ... how hard
>would it be to swap in an OD tranny ? Can the E4OD handle it ? I would
>think so since it was used behind the lightnings ...
>
>Anything else I should know about the truck ? He claims its "only" getting
>10mpg, but I didn't think that was too bad if it really is a 3speed with
>4.10 gears ... Haven't seen the truck yet, but its supposed to be nice,
>white w/red interior. Clearance lights and 3 hitches (bumper, 5th ag
>style, and one other that I didn't really understand dad's description of).
>
>Anyway if anyone can pass on any info that'd be great!
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>wish

I've posted some info on the web that might be helpfull to you.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:48:32 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Front/Rear tank mileage difference

If nothing else, it's worth looking at the vent lines of the rear tank.
I had a friend with 45 Gallon Aero tanks that had a vent problem.
Symptoms appeared as vapor lock, poor mileage, bad fuel pump.

For a number of reasons, he now has transfer flow tanks, and
is *way* happier.



Smeins, Larry wrote:

> My son is getting considerably different mileage between the front and rear
> tanks on his 95 F-150. Like 14 on rear and 18 on the front. He also says
> he experiences low power and cutting out when running on the rear tank and
> climbing mountain passes at high altitude. The front tank has normal power.
> I suspect a leak into the front tank when he is switched to the rear tank
> but don't know how the reverse flow valving is done with the dual pump
> system. Any ideas what may be the problem here?
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:29:43 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Marine battery

I have a friend with a 97 F350 PSD. He has a *3* battery setup.
2 for the engine starting and a 3rd for accessories. (a 4th in the camper).
He has a 12,000 lb warn winch and a 12 V ready-air compressor.
Not sure what kind of battery isolator he uses, as he's now got a
215 amp alternator.

I've seen battery isolators up to 190 amps, but not higher.
Anyone know how much buffer there exists in battery isolater?
How much more alternator over isoltor ratings, before you
get failure on the isolator?

thanks,
- -john


Rick Wojciechowski wrote:

> Copbdybldr aol.com wrote:
>
> > your marine battery prob doesn't have the cranking amps of the other battery,
> > but it will allow you to run it down to nothing then it will charge right back
> > up.
>
> Guys,
> you just gave me an idea. Sure wish my wife knew I
> can think for myself. :-)
>
> Knowing this info you guys have given me. I think a marine
> battery would be a perfect solution to my two battery setup
> on the bronco for running the winch(not that I ever need it :-) ).
> As well as runnning lights at night while having to chainsaw
> through a tree, or a combination of both. When my current
> auxillary battery(Walmart Special) goes out I will seriously
> look at buying one of the marine ones.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Rick Wojo
> '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
> '92 Mstng 5.0L
> '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-) :-))
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:49:55 -0500
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Running wires from brake control...

Someone posted a reference to a Web page with instructions for building a 12-6
volt solid state regulator for the instrument cluster on older Ford trucks. I
neglected to bookmark the site and cannot find the original message. I think
the article referred to Chubby trucks, but the information was appropriate for
Fords also.

Please contact me off-line,

Mike

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:42:10 -0600
From: "mooney"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - R E M O V E M E

- -----Original Message-----
From: William S Hart
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 89 Info


>My dad recently (late last week) purchased an 89 F250 4x4 5.8L . My sister
>has a similar truck, though its a 91 5.0L. My questions are :
>
>1) how can we tell if these are HDs or LDs ? Anything obvious ?
>2) 91 is Multi port ... 89 dad thinks is TBI, though he hasn't looked for
>sure, is this right ? when was the changeover ?
>3) 91 has E4OD, 89 has C6??? Its only got 3 gears he said ... how hard
>would it be to swap in an OD tranny ? Can the E4OD handle it ? I would
>think so since it was used behind the lightnings ...
>
>Anything else I should know about the truck ? He claims its "only" getting
>10mpg, but I didn't think that was too bad if it really is a 3speed with
>4.10 gears ... Haven't seen the truck yet, but its supposed to be nice,
>white w/red interior. Clearance lights and 3 hitches (bumper, 5th ag
>style, and one other that I didn't really understand dad's description of).
>
>Anyway if anyone can pass on any info that'd be great!
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>wish
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:37:07 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: pilot bearing

Geoffrey Schrag wrote:

> -Sorry, I did mean to say pilot bearing. Well, I tried pulling the pilot
> bearing out with a couple of different pullers-screw and slide hammer type.
> The center piece of the bearing came out, but the outer ring with the
> notches on the back side is stuck fast. Anyone have any ideas how to get
> this out?-I tried doing the hydraulic method too-packing it with grease and
> pounding a dowel of similar diameter through the hole.

Geoff,
So did you get the pilot bearing casing out ?

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Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:33:51 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Regarding "Interceptor" for E4OD trans......

Has anyone gotten, and used one yet? I may decide to keep my truck a LOT
longer if it works! I was in the Summit catalog, and found a shift
kit....but I don't feel comfortable inside such a thing as an E4OD!!!

I did see some cool stuff...5 and 6 speed trannies (man.) All manor of
cams, and stuff...

Hope to hear of interceptor talk!

Dave H.
92 F-150
Houston, TX


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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:16:08 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Regarding "Interceptor" for E4OD trans..and AODE owners warn....

Dave,
I personally haven't gotten one as I have found that I have the AODE
(read:P.O.S., and currently in the tranny shop getting rebuilt and reborn as a
tire shredding, truck propelling slushbox!) But I do have a friend whom I told
of this product and he has called and ordered one. As soon as we get it and
put it in, I'll be breaking it in and running it through the paces as he has
NO knowledge of performance upgrades or what they should do. I'll let you know
as soon as I can just what kind of difference it makes. Also for all the
unlucky souls as myself who got the AODE, I have contacted the same company
and they are coming out with an Interceptor for our trannies. By the time they
do though, I'll have a strong enough trans. not to need it.
By the way...ATTENTION ALL AODE owners. I have recently been the unfortunate
receiver of dubious info. As my trans. shop constantly works on AODEs for the
local cops (and they have done other work for myself and friends) I trust them
implicitly. Well, basically it comes down to this....If you beat on your
truck, or haul loads constantly, then your better check your odometers. As
Ford has put out several TSBs concerning the AODE and E40D concerning
upgrades, most of the used trucks we buy have not had these addressed. I
bought one of those trucks. And at the average mileage time (78k) my tranny
bit the dust. I lost all forward gears due to the main planetary drive and
sprag coming apart which is a common happening between 60k-90k miles. I have
had the trans. serviced regularly and turn off the OD while towing or hauling,
but according to the trans. shop, it wont matter how you treat it, unless you
drive VERY CAREFULLY and never make it kick down from OD to 2nd while passing.
If the trans. starts slipping even slightly, don't ignore it, take it in to
have someone look at it. I ignored it as a heavy load slippage and now I am
looking at putting out almost 2k to have it rebuilt RIGHT. Sorry I didn't mean
to ramble, just take a look at your trans. and catch the hints before the
problems develop.
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"
Wayne's Flareside Page
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:53:22 -0500 (EST)
From: pdonk webtv.net (Philip Donk)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - need some advice

I own a 1995 F150 XL 5 speed 4 wheel drive and I'm trying to install a
new vinyl floor covering, but I can't figure out how to remove the shift
boots from my 5 speed shifter or my four wheel drive shifter. If some
one could help me I would really appreciate it.

Philip J. Donk

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:16:36 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Timing Cover still a Problem :-(

Rick-
Sorry to hear it! I know the process you went through (because I did it
about 15 months ago myself) and it's a drag that it still leaks.

I have not pulled my pan (yet) so have no personal experience to share.
I'll look it up in my factory shop manual, if you want, and pass on any
pointers they offer.

At 09:13 22/02/99 -0600, you wrote:
>The damn rubber oil seal that goes between the timing gear cover( I
>dont have a timing
>chain) and oilpan mustv moved and is seeping out there just above the
>bottom bolt.

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton
'63 Buick Riviera
'80 Ford F-150
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:49:58 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - EGR Valve

Correct you are. Take my advice, put in the washer with the smallest hole
you can find to minimize the amount of exhaust gas going into the intake
stream. You will be glad you did. Don't try to use someone else's EGR valve
number. If you guess too big, you will regret it. (Runs really poorly. BTDT)

IF the engine should fail emissions testing (which I doubt) you can swap
out to next larger washer size. I'll bet you $20 you will never have to
touch it.

At 05:20 22/02/99 PST, you wrote:
>As many of you know, I have been in the process of swapping my 300 I6
>for a 351W in my '82 Ford F150, 2WD. I purchased an EGR valve the other
>day and discovered it had optional washers to insert depending on the
>EGR number of the old valve. Well, the valve on my old I6 does not
>match up with anything on the list. I've modified the '82 Windsor
>engine with an '84-'86 EGR plate and 4V carb. Does anyone have an
>'84-'86 351W that would share their EGR number with me? The EGR number
>is usually on a decal on the front of the valve.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve
>
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Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton
'63 Buick Riviera
'80 Ford F-150
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:59:46 -0500
From: Philip Thomason
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 F-150 clunks

I hope someone can give me some helpful advice. I bought a used '95 F-150
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