80-96-list-digest Tuesday, February 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 036



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Model years for dash mounted OD switch
FTE 80-96 - RE: Dash mounted OD switch!
FTE 80-96 - I-6 Carb Rebuild
RE: FTE 80-96 - DOME LIGHT
Re: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI
Re: FTE 80-96 - What is wrong with people today?!?
RE: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI
Re: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI
RE: FTE 80-96 - What is wrong with people today?!?
RE:FTE 80-96 - van fir towing
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: A.R.E Tonneau covers and truck caps

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:08:19 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Huse"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Model years for dash mounted OD switch

Hitman wrote:
- -1991 was the only year the switch was dash mounted

Ehh,
I have a 1990 E-250 Club Wagon with the dash mounted switch.

Bjornar
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Bj=F8rnar Huse
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://bryggen.bgnett.no/~bjornar
1 1990 Ford E-250 Club Wagon 7.3 diesel, 3.54, E4OD
1 1994 Ford Escort 1.3
1 1986 Ford Escort 1.6 Wagon
Oh, yes, one 1971 wife, too!
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:18:26 -0500
From: "Golly, Scott M"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Dash mounted OD switch!

I DON'T THINK SO! I own a 1990 and know that the OD switch is on the DASH!

Scott M. Golly
Researcher/Fire Protection Engineer


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Date:Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:17:52 EST
From: Hitman6136 aol.com
Subject:Re: FTE 80-96 - Model years for dash mounted OD switch

1991 was the only year the switch was dash mounted
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:54:04 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - I-6 Carb Rebuild

Guys,
As you guys know last week I was doing the simple job
of replacing my fuel line cause it was leaking. Well, my carb
at the base was loose due to the bolts that come up from the
bottom on the base. So's while I had it off I would rebuild it.
Well Saturday, my Dad came over and helped me with me
first carb rebuild. He brought over some parts solvent made
the carb look like brand new we rebuilt it. Took about two
and a half hours to tear down the carb, clean it and put it back
together. Man, my truck runs like a top. No more black smoke,
and it idles by itself now. :-) I got out my engine analyzer and
set the rpms and fuel mixture. The hardest part of the job was
replacing the 16 year old 1/8" vacuum lines that broke while
taking out the carb. I had a hell of a time finding the vacuum
kind of vacuum line(5 parts stores and the Ford dealer). So
I ended up using the same kind of line I have for my airshocks
with rubber tubing coupling them to the connections.
The only thing on the carb I have to take care of is finding a fast
idle screw for the choke which aparently must have vibrated out
at some point. I know my Dad has one on his I-6. :-)
Then yesterday I set the timing and cleaned up our vacumm line job
a bit. Oh, on the baseplate to the carb I put locktite on the screws
hoping that would keep the base a little tighter a little longer so the
vacuum leak would not reappear for a good while. Anyways, we're
running like a race horse again. :-) Now this week I have to replace
my oilpan gasket.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March
:-) :-))


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:22:06 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - DOME LIGHT

bob chaytor wrote:


> I have been having a problem with my dome light in my 88 f150 . It works
> fine when you open the door . Turn the headlight / interior switch ,the
> cargo light comes on but not the dome light.
>
Remove the overhead light fixture and pray the problem is there,
like a disconnected wire.

> Now my 2 map lights beside it booth quit at the same time, they have
> separate switches. But again the cargo and "door " light work.
>
Sounds like the problem is related to the one above which seems to
indicate the problems originate in the overhead light fixture. Check the
fuses and bulbs just in case. Could be a loose ground wire. (somewhere, may
not be at the overhead light)

> Pretty bad I can totally rewire a 72 land cruiser but can't figure out a
> dome light on these new vehicles
>
Yes they are complicated, but because of that I am sure you will not
have to rewire your Ford. I owned a '72 TLC and had to rewire it after the
wiring shorted out and caught on fire.

Scott
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:38:42 -0500
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI

I'm getting codes for the Idle Air Bypass Valve on my 95 5.8L. What is the
best way to take this valve off? It looks like a cylinder and has no bolts
or nuts on it, so I guess it screws off. I don't want to crush it, trying
to take it off, it there a good trick to getting it off?
\

ThanX

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Kennedy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI


>If the 31 and 32 codes come up consistently, either the EGR and/or the EVP
>Sensor is giving the old computer a faulty reading until engine warm
up.Some
>folks remove the EGR assembly and clean it in a O2 sensor-safe cleaner.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Bob
>


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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:59:57 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - What is wrong with people today?!?

Casey Vandor wrote:

> I know every time I write I have a problem with the truck but now I have
> a problem with people. I parked my truck and left it plugged in so that
> when it warms up around here I can figure out whats wrong with it. I go
> up every couple of days and check on it to make sure no body has broken
> it to it and such. I go up there this morning and some $&(! $# broke
> the left half of my grill to pieces, busted a fog light and broke my 3
> plug adapter all just to steal my extension cord.

Casey,
Sorry to hear once again about your bad luck. :-(
I have a friend who got his window glass all broke
out just to get a jean jacket. Some people are just
to lazy to get out and work for what they do not
have or can afford. Its guys like us on the list that
work hard which still makes this country a great
place to be. And I don't mean just the college educated.
I mean EVERYONE that is willing to work for what
they want and to give a helping hand to the fella in need.
That is what we are all about and feel for ya.
Hope this is a little comfort.
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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-)
:-))


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:47:00 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI

If you could break the connection by just wiggling the EGR position sensor
connector it must be bad. Replace the connector or the whole sensor with the
connector attached.

Intermittent EGR position sensor connection = intermittent error code for
EGR system wouldn't you think?

Scott
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Kimuel Hill [SMTP:khill hiwaay.net]
> Sent:Sunday, February 07, 1999 12:41 PM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI
>
> I am now forced to stop lurking and ask for help.
>
> I have a 1989 F150 SWB with a fuel injected 4.9L and 5 speed manual.
> The truck stumbles when it is cold up to about 1800 rpm. When it is
> warm, it does not stumble, but the running is noticably smoother and
> more powerful above that range. Engine vacuum is 20 inches at idle and
> decreases at higher rpm. A compression test showed ~150 psi of
> compression for each cylinder, all within 5 psi.
>
> The only computer code I get is an intermittent code 31 or 32 for 'check
> EGR system'. I performed a 'wiggle test' for the EGR position sensor and
> could break the connection by just wiggling the connector. I have
> checked the coolant temperature thermistor, MAP, EPV and throttle
> position sensors. I also broke down and replaced the plugs, plug wires,
> distributor cap and rotor.
>
> Any ideas, anyone??? I am just about at my wit's end and may actually
> have to resort to a professional. Any and all advice will be
> considered.
>
> Thanks!!!
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:35:55 -0800
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Stumbling 1989 4.9L FI

At 1:41 PM -0600 2/7/99, Kimuel Hill wrote:
>I am now forced to stop lurking and ask for help.
>
>I have a 1989 F150 SWB with a fuel injected 4.9L and 5 speed manual.
>The truck stumbles when it is cold up to about 1800 rpm. When it is
>warm, it does not stumble, but the running is noticably smoother and
>more powerful above that range. Engine vacuum is 20 inches at idle and
>decreases at higher rpm. A compression test showed ~150 psi of
>compression for each cylinder, all within 5 psi.
>
>The only computer code I get is an intermittent code 31 or 32 for 'check
>EGR system'. I performed a 'wiggle test' for the EGR position sensor and
>could break the connection by just wiggling the connector. I have
>checked the coolant temperature thermistor, MAP, EPV and throttle
>position sensors. I also broke down and replaced the plugs, plug wires,
>distributor cap and rotor.
>
>Any ideas, anyone??? I am just about at my wit's end and may actually
>have to resort to a professional. Any and all advice will be
>considered.
>
>Thanks!!!

Maybe its a problem with the fuel system. Check the fuel pressure at the
engine. Check to see if the fuel rail pressure regulators are working.
Dirty injectors?

I took my truck in recently to have a problem fixed and asked the mechanic
about all the error codes that I was getting. He told be that the codes
that point to the EGR system are a bit of a red herring. Alot of EFI
systems log this error when in fact there is nothing wrong. The valve
position sensor is out of calibration to the actual recirculation valve
itself. There is no adjustment.

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Mark Ponsfordphone: (250) 721-7397
McPherson Library - Systemsfax: (250) 721-8215
University of Victoria
Victoria, B.C. Canada V8W 3H5


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:42:35 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - What is wrong with people today?!?

Someone used a slide hammer to pull the lock out of my car door to steal a
pair of 30 dollar surface mount speakers under the back window. Cost for the
door repair: $500.00. deductible: $300.00 Now I have a radio with a
removable face plate, keep everything out of sight, and don't bother locking
the doors. Locks are just for keeping kids and honest people out.

IMHO,
You ask what's wrong with people? Those people you speak about are you and
I. We sit the example for our kids. Look at who we voted for and the
examples they set for everyone and tell me if it is going to get better or
if it will get worse. "Decent people" did not vote for them. But those
"decent people" are the ones who are under attack for wanting to correct it.
Soon we will run out of towns to run to after things get too bad. (I can't
imagine it that bad up there as it is here)

Sorry to ramble, but it kills me that we think it is OK for our elected
officials to get away with breaking laws but it is not OK when we are the
one that gets victimized. No elected official is so important that we can't
replace them and go on.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Casey Vandor [SMTP:cvandor hotmail.com]
> Sent:Saturday, February 06, 1999 5:01 PM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:FTE 80-96 - What is wrong with people today?!?
>
> I know every time I write I have a problem with the truck but now I have
> a problem with people. I parked my truck and left it plugged in so that
> when it warms up around here I can figure out whats wrong with it. I go
> up every couple of days and check on it to make sure no body has broken
> it to it and such. I go up there this morning and some $&(! $# broke
> the left half of my grill to pieces, busted a fog light and broke my 3
> plug adapter all just to steal my extension cord. I don't understand
> what in the hell drives people to do stuff like this. While if he had
> just stolen the damn cord, I would have been mad, but to bust up my hard
> earned property to get it sends me over the edge. Back home I don't
> even think twice about locking my home, much less my truck. Here people
> are so low as to bust up a good looking grill and foglight to get a 7
> dollar extension cord! I just don't understand.
>
> Sorry for the negativity, but what is wrong with people?
> Can't wait to get back to a town with decent people in it.
>
> Casey Vandor
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:33:05 EST
From: SCHOMACKER aol.com
Subject: RE:FTE 80-96 - van fir towing

I have a cut-away van unit which is designed for towing a fifth wheel trailer.
It is an older unit,with a 460 gas, C-6 auto with an add-on overdirive unit
and a 4.10 rear end. This unit will pull anything up to 16,000 lbs. very well,
however the fuel mileage sucks (7-8 mpg). The biggest reason that I would
never buy a van for towing again is that one has to either buy the big gas
engine or the diesel and the engine compartments on vans are designed to hold
a 351 engine maximum. Doing routine maintenance (change plugs, etc.) is all
but impossible without practically dismantling the front end. (Ford wants $350
to do a simple tune-up on my rig!) My suggestion, if you are going to buy a
new unit is to wait until the new Excursion comes out later this year, or a
crew-cab F-350, and set it up to tow what it is you have.

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:11:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: A.R.E Tonneau covers and truck caps

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