80-96-list-digest Thursday, February 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 031



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer Calibration
RE: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs
FTE 80-96 - Cruse Control
FTE 80-96 - Choked to death ?
FTE 80-96 - Re: New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems
Re: inaccurate gauges (was FTE 80-96 - Re: New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems
FTE 80-96 - Re: inaccurate gauges
Re: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs
FTE 80-96 - My Dads 87 Ranger 2.9L Still hard to start!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs
FTE 80-96 - 96 300 I6 ticking valve lifters??
FTE 80-96 - Rattle under hood
Re: FTE 80-96 - New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems
FTE 80-96 - Loose Steering wheel column
FTE 80-96 - New Engine?
FTE 80-96 - Re: Dist. test
Re: FTE 80-96 - Rattle under hood

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:30:36 -0500
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems

I can relate to thumping the dash - that is how I get the voltmeter to work
on my 87 F-350 diesel. But it doesn't seem to help the meandering fuel
gauge. Maybe I am thumping the wrong spot. Maybe I should pull the
instrument cluster and find out if there is a bad connection somewhere.
Maybe when the weather gets warmer and there is no chance that I will need
the truck to plow.

Mike

Arthur Dembinski wrote:

> I've had a similar problem with my '83 6.9 L diesel, but it's
> intermittent, both gauges go past F and the temp gauge rises fairly
> high, but there is no overheating. It happens only in warm weather,
> never in winter. It's been happening since 1984. My dashboard is
> cracked right over the gauge position, due to my discovery that I can
> also temporarily fix the problem by thumping the dash with my right
> fist. Everything returns to normal. Must be a wiring or voltage
> problem in the dash, which I haven't bothered to fix.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> >
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:55:19 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer Calibration

Gourde, Darrin wrote:

> Can somebody tell me how to calibrate the speedometer for larger diameter
> tires on 1992 and up F150s? If this was answered in the past I missed it.
> Thanks

Darrin, Here is my way of recalibration

The percentage difference can be calculated in a couple of different
ways, but here is my way:

(stock size / New size) * 100.0 = xx.xx %

which means you will be off by:
100.00 - xx.xxx = 6.06 %

Therefore, at:
60 mph * xx.xxx = xxx MPH
50 mph * xx.xxx = xxx MPH
40 mph * xx.xxx = xxx MPH
and so on.

EXAMPLE:
Lets say you are going from 31" to 33" mudders

Speedometer Accuracy:
(31 / 33) x 100% = 93.94%

Percent Speedometer is off
100% - 93.94% = 6.06 %

Hence:
60 mph * 0.0606 = 3.636 MPH off
50 mph * 0.0606 = 3.030 MPH off
40 mph * 0.0606 = 2.424 MPH off
and so on.


The gear is in the transfer case. One gear repesents 5 mph.
So I think the thinking is subtract a tooth for every 5mph
difference. Anyone ?

Remember, this example is assuming that the 31's were calibrated
corrrectly and you are starting as if the 31's were stock
with the truck.

If anyone wants too add they're $0.0000002, I am always
willing to listen.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-) :-))



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Date: 3 Feb 99 09:15:33 EST
From: CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs

>Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:57:00 -0800
>From: Dana Bartholomew
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs

>I'd like to replace my auto hubs with a set of manuals on my 1993 F350.
>Does anyone have any experience or recommendations between Warn and
>Superwinch, or others.

>Dana B

I replaced the auto hubs on my 96 F150 with the Warn manuals, and am very
happy
with them. I needed 1 special tool to get the old locknuts off, and a
different one to install the
new locknuts. Price was right - $100?? I think. Got mine mail order, but
I'd use a local dealer
and save shipping if the price compared.

Chuck


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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:16:16 -0600
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Cruse Control

>Has anyone had any experience with cruise control problems>>
The only thing that acted up on me was that it wouldn't disengage when
applying the brakes, had to manually turn it off. After driving most of the
winter like this I noticed no brake lights. Put in a new fuse and all was
good. Rather embarrassed to think I was driving all winter with no brake
lights...
Steve

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:35:40 -0500
From: "Skerrett, Michael"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Choked to death ?

> On 2 Feb 99 was written:
>
> Anyway, the truck will run fine for a couple blocks, and then
> afterward, if I let off the gas, the headlights will get real dim,
> and
> the engine starts idling real rough. I am sometimes able to keep
> the engine running, but then after maybe about two times that I
> might have to stop, the engine finally dies on me.
>
> Living in the Orlando area we kind of have a different outlook on what is
> cold weather. We want it cool enough that the lemons and oranges change
> color, but not so cold it kills my banana plants or Avocado tree. It is
> all relative I guess....
>
> Sounds to me like an engine warm up temperature problem. It could be that
> your thermostat is opening too soon. Right about the time that your
> computer thinks it is warm but really isn't. That will cause the fuel
> mixture and idle to change (actually a whole bunch of parameters are
> effected) to a warm setting when the engine isn't ready for it yet.
>
> Have you changed your thermostat lately? Did you put in a cooler one
> thinking, Hey!, its Florida. The truck needs to run cooler? Any radiator
> or water pump problems/changes?
>
> Could be just a worn out thermostat. I put a 160 degree thermostat in my
> '92 5.0L a while back and that is smack in the middle of the cross over
> temperature for the computer, cold-to-warm. Fuel mileage went South,
> engine ran rough and it would stall at lights. I put in a new 190 degree
> thermostat and voila! It now runs like it should. Seems these engines
> with their fuel injection and computer controllers like and even count on
> a warmer environment. Summertime is not any worse. Even with the A/C
> running constantly the temperature gauge never goes above mid-range. Keep
> the coolant fresh and the radiator clean and you should be okay.
>
> Hope this helps a little.
>
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:36:06 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems

On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:44:27 -0800, Paul Laughlin
wrote:
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> Arthur Dembinski wrote:
> >
> > I've had a similar problem with my '83 6.9 L diesel, but it's
> > intermittent, both gauges go past F and the temp gauge rises fairly
> > high, but there is no overheating.
>
> This sounds like an intermittent voltage regulator on the instrument
> panel. Does the oil pressure also read high? I have had a similar
> problem on my '87 E350 van.

I suspect this truck has the notorius "idiot gauge" for the oil because
it moves up to 5/8 scale and sticks there. The temperature gauge goes
to 3/4, maybe a little higher, once it is warmed up, and never seems to
move. BTW, does anyone know what the fuel tank sizes should be? It is
an '86 F-250 diesel. The book says 19 gal front and rear but the front
appears to be larger than the rear. I don't really want to run it dry
to find out.

Birken
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:48:14 -0500
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: inaccurate gauges (was FTE 80-96 - Re: New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems

I don't have my book in front of me, but I believe my '87 6.9L has 17 gal in
the rear. And my temperature gauge never seems to go past aobut the 1/3
mark. But I have only operated it for a couple of months since I got it in
November and not yet worked it hard enough to get things really warmed up.
In fact, based on the temperature of the air coming out of the vents, I
would say that the gauge is pretty accurate.

Mike

Vogt Family wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 20:44:27 -0800, Paul Laughlin
> wrote:
> >
> > Arthur Dembinski wrote:
> > >
> > > I've had a similar problem with my '83 6.9 L diesel, but it's
> > > intermittent, both gauges go past F and the temp gauge rises fairly
> > > high, but there is no overheating.
> >
> > This sounds like an intermittent voltage regulator on the instrument
> > panel. Does the oil pressure also read high? I have had a similar
> > problem on my '87 E350 van.
>
> I suspect this truck has the notorius "idiot gauge" for the oil because
> it moves up to 5/8 scale and sticks there. The temperature gauge goes
> to 3/4, maybe a little higher, once it is warmed up, and never seems to
> move. BTW, does anyone know what the fuel tank sizes should be? It is
> an '86 F-250 diesel. The book says 19 gal front and rear but the front
> appears to be larger than the rear. I don't really want to run it dry
> to find out.



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Allamuchy NJ
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:26:32 -0800
From: Erston Reisch
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: inaccurate gauges

Mike Sloane wrote:
>
> I don't have my book in front of me, but I believe my '87 6.9L has 17 gal in
> the rear. And my temperature gauge never seems to go past aobut the 1/3
> mark. But I have only operated it for a couple of months since I got it in
> November and not yet worked it hard enough to get things really warmed up.
> In fact, based on the temperature of the air coming out of the vents, I
> would say that the gauge is pretty accurate.

I'm glad it's not just me - my '90 300ci, on full heat, is barely enough to
keep you warm, even with a coat on. My temp gauge goes about 1/3 up the range
and sticks there as well.

Thank god I don't live in Alaska - I'd freeze.

- - Erston (Seattle, WA area)



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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:40:59 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs

CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com wrote:

> >I'd like to replace my auto hubs with a set of manuals on my 1993 F350.
> >Does anyone have any experience or recommendations between Warn and
> >Superwinch, or others.

Charles,
Warn Premiums are the popular choice. But in a pinch over this
last -mas holidays, when stores wern't open me and my Dad found
some Medium-duty MileMarker ones at AutoZone for $60.00. I
installed them and so far he is very happy with them. They have
already gotten some pretty rugged use. This is just my opinion,
but from what I have heard form other people the manufacturer
rankings go like this.
1. Warn Premiums
2. Mile Marker
3. SuperWinch

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-) :-))



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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:19:58 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - My Dads 87 Ranger 2.9L Still hard to start!

It gets a code #33 on KOEO, so the EGR valve, or the EGR sensor..(both got
replaced on my 92 F-150) might be bad. However the main question is can
that BADLY affect starting? Inquiring minds want to know!

Dave Harmier
dharmier gte.net
" I hate mornings...especially the part between 6am and noon!" said by
me...often!!!

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:24:11 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Manual hubs

In a message dated 2/2/99 9:01:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
danabart wizard.com writes:


I'd like to replace my auto hubs with a set of manuals on my 1993 F350.
Does anyone have any experience or recommendations between Warn and
Superwinch, or others.

Dana B >>
I put Superwinch hubs on my 92 150 Nite. So much simpler, much less parts,
and no more locking problems.

Joe
Lost in Jersey
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:12:58 -0900
From: "Stefan Rearden"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 96 300 I6 ticking valve lifters??

I've recently noticed a ticking sound coming from my engine and am unsure as
to what it is. It's not too loud and increases with rpm's. I think it may
be a stuck lifter, but am unsure. What else could it be if not that. My
truck only has 32000 miles on it.
We've been experiencing -30 to -40 F weather here in Fairbanks, AK for a
couple of weeks and I'm wondering if this may have contributed to the
ticking? I have a block heater and an oil pan heater in it.
Thanks for any help you guys may be able to give me,
Stefan R.


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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:44:42 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rattle under hood

Dear Members

Got a rattle under the hood. I have a 1991 Ford F-250, 4X4, Reg. Cab, Long
Bed, XLT Lariat pickup, PS, PB, 460, 3:55's, E40D, Lockouts, Dual Exhaust,
94,000 miles. It seems like it is under the driver's side of the hood when
you are sitting in the truck. It only does it when you get up around 50 or 55
M.P.H. or when it is really windy. (the windier it is the worse). It sounds
like a cowl tray under the window wipers that would catch water, but i don't
think that is it. Maybe its the air intake system or something? My dad has a
1994 Ford F-250 4X4 Reg. Cab, Long Bed, XLT, PS PB, 7.3L Diesel, 3:55 limit
slip, E40D (its on its second tranny) Auto Hubs, 155,000 miles. It has the
exact same noise and does it at the exact same time under the exact same
conditions. Anyone had this problem or have any suggestions on what it might
be? Any comments, answers, or suggestions will be greatly appreciated because
this noise drives you nuts.

Thanks
Paul
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:57:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Arthur Dembinski
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - New (To Me) Truck, Minor Problems

Paul Laughlin wrote:
>This sounds like an intermittent voltage regulator on >the instrument
>panel. Does the oil pressure also read high?
Yes, the oil pressure also reads high at those times. All three
gauges go up & down together, at other times work normally.






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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:58:47 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Loose Steering wheel column

Guys

Got a 1991 Ford F-250 Reg. Cab, XLT lariat. it has tilt steering with cruise.
The problem is that the you can move the steering wheel up and down. it is
looser than a goose. i think it wobles right where it the that locks on to
the column that keeps it from tilting. Do you guys know how to take it apart
to tighen it up? Do you pull back the steering wheel cover where the Ford
symbol is to take it all apart? or do you get under the dash and loosen some
bolts on some cover or something?

Thanks
Paul
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:47:15 EST
From: AeroAce13 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - New Engine?

Hey guys, thanks for the help with my truck stalling in the wet wether. I
replaced th cap rotor and wires, but it didn't help any. So I called my
mechanic and he said all the 300 6I do it, I find this hard to believe because
there is something that is making it run bad. Has anyone heard this before?
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, or should I just drop in a
new engine with electronic ignition. Thanks again.

Ed
F-150 xlt 4x4 lariet
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:48:04 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Dist. test

Bart-AK writes: >>One word of warning, Don't check the distributor
vacuum advance at the dist. with this, trust me.

Naw - You really didn't did you????

Azie
Ardmore, Al.
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Well Azie, just between you , me and the List........It was a GM that
received the new cap and rotor.
Bart-AK


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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:50:45 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Rattle under hood

Check the actual cowl cover itself. Mine is loose on my '90 Bronco and I
think it is causing the rattle I am hearing. Mine is so loose that the
antenna wobbles around when I hit something. I can't figure out what hold
the cowl cover in and fixing the tranny has been a much higher priority.

Rade
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From: WoodStck45 aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 12:56 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rattle under hood


>Dear Members
>
>Got a rattle under the hood. I have a 1991 Ford F-250, 4X4, Reg. Cab, Long
>Bed, XLT Lariat pickup, PS, PB, 460, 3:55's, E40D, Lockouts, Dual Exhaust,
>94,000 miles. It seems like it is under the driver's side of the hood when
>you are sitting in the truck. It only does it when you get up around 50 or
55
>M.P.H. or when it is really windy. (the windier it is the worse). It
sounds
>like a cowl tray under the window wipers that would catch water, but i
don't
>think that is it. Maybe its the air intake system or something? My dad
has a
>1994 Ford F-250 4X4 Reg. Cab, Long Bed, XLT, PS PB, 7.3L Diesel, 3:55 limit....


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