80-96-list-digest Thursday, January 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 024



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Transmission
RE: : FTE 80-96 - Strong Brake Vibration
Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 Tranny & Start Porblems
FTE 80-96 - idle problems
FTE 80-96 - oxygen sensor
Re: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco
Re: FTE 80-96 - 8.8 Rearend
Re: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco
FTE 80-96 - Advise on Old Diesel Truck
Re: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco
FTE 80-96 - Speedometer Calibration
FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
FTE 80-96 - 351W Serpantine Belt
Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
FTE 80-96 - T/C Lock-up 92 E4OD...almost there! And Plug wire stuff.....
Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer Calibration
RE: FTE 80-96 - T/C Lock-up 92 E4OD...almost there! And Plug wire stuff.....
Re: FTE 80-96 - idle problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid
FTE 80-96 - Torque converter fluid change
FTE 80-96 - Style
FTE 80-96 - V-6 firing order for Rangers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: bad idle
Re: FTE 80-96 - Torque converter fluid change
Re: FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid
RE: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Torque converter fluid change

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:00:21 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transmission

George Hester writes: >>My REAL fear was the words from the shop moments ago
"we've called Ford
to try and find a replacement" I called TransMart and they couldn't help
me. The last time ('88F150 #1) that came back with "we've FINALLY
located 'ONE' in Nebraska and it will be $900.00+"

Try Corinth Used Parts in Corinth, MS. (800) 647-1260. I'm not affiliated with
them, but am a satisfied customer. They specialize in transmissions and rear
ends.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:00:52 -0600
From: "Chuck"
Subject: RE: : FTE 80-96 - Strong Brake Vibration

> did you rough up the rotors and pads with
> sandpaper before you put on the
> pads?

not the pads, and actually, Brake & Rotor Magazine says
to turn new rotors to square them up due to possible
improper storage. Storage of rotors requires vertical
storage and shipping, horizontal storage and shipping
can cause rotors to bounce on one another during
shipping and cause them to warp. SO, I turned the new
rotors just enough to square them.

> they ( all four pads ) could be
> sticking, causing a fast hop, or
> vibration too.
>

how could they stick?

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:02:45 -0500
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 Tranny & Start Porblems

>>1. When my truck thinks its cold out ( low 40's here in Arizona ). It
refuses to start until I repeatedly (20-30 times) turn the key or the sun
comes up and it warms up a little. I had the battery check, I've tried
jiggling the key and steering wheel, but the only thing that seems to help
is to keep hittin the key till it starts. The only thing I hear when I
first try is the fuel pumps whinning, no cranking, no clicking, nothing.
Then I hit the magical try and the beast fires right up. Where do i start
looking? Could it be a bad key switch or something concerning the
starter?

I've had a similar thing happen to me with my 86 f150. It seemed to only do
it in cooler weather also. It used to scare the crap out of me. I could go
in the store and come back 5 minutes later and nothing. I would just sit
there and keep turning the key until bam! It fired up. What I figured out
was that if I turned the key to the ON position and then shifted it through
the gears then put it back in PARK it would fire right up. Or I would just
put it in NEUTRAL and it would fire up also. I think maybe it has something
to do with the shift linkage or something not thinking it is in PARK. I
don't know. Hope this helps. If anything it's worth a shot trying.

Mike
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:47:21 -0500
From: Mark_Halpain ingerrand.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - idle problems

In a recent article someone was having problems with their idle. A
mechanic told me that trucks with 100,000 plus miles will need to
replace the throttle body gasket which will cause this idle problem.
He said to be sure the gasket is bad start the truck and spray
starting fluid around the base of the throttle body. If the engine
idle increases while spraying the starting fluid it's a sure sign the
gasket is no good.

Mark Halpain


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:56:21 -0500
From: Mark_Halpain ingerrand.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - oxygen sensor

I read where someone mentioned changing the o2 sensor would improve
gas mileage and sometimes performance. Just mentioning better gas
mileage gets my attention so I called two auto parts stores and found
a replacement o2 sensor for my 89 f150 w/302. The price was the same,
$39.00 and some cents. I called the local ford dealer just to see how
much more they would charge but the parts guy could not give me a
price unless I knew the calibration of the o2 sensor I wanted. Well
that started me thinking about the other auto stores who said they had
one come and get it. How important is the calibration?

Mark Halpain

email: mark_halpain ingerrand.com


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:37:16 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco

Sounds a little steep. I picked up an '84 full-size in '92 for $3400
from a dealer. It was in good condition, had the 302 with 93,000 miles, and
needed a windshield and tires.
I'd shop around a little more, unless you're really set on it. Dealers
can always be talked down.

- -Mike

- -----Original Message-----
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 8:26 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco


Hey guys,
I know it is hard to say, without seeing it, but does anyone know about what
the value, what YOU would pay, for this vehicle is?

1985 Full Size Bronco
Silver Out
Maroon In
Intrerior really nice, no rips, no cracks in dash
Exterior, pretty good, little rust
ENGINE, DON'T KNOW, WHAT WOULD, COULD it be?

The guy at the dealer has it listed as $4995.00


THANKS IN ADVANCE

BART
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:44:40 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 8.8 Rearend

I did mine on my '95 over the summer and used the Haynes manual as a
reference. Honestly, other than the pictures, it was little help. The job
is really easy.
Mine didn't have a gasket, so that was one less thing to worry about. I
just put a drain pan under the rear end, took off the bolts, and pried the
cover off. It won't take much effort. Oh yeah, and don't lose the little
tag that you'll find on one of the bolts. It's got info on your gear ratio
and whatnot and should go back on when you put everything back together.
With everything apart, clean the surfaces of any silicon that might be
on there (or gasket material, depending on whether or not you have one), put
a new bead of silicon around the cover, and re-install. I tend to use that
"That feels about right" method of tightening simple things like this, and
haven't had any problems so far.
Re-fill with fluid, and you're golden. An hour's job. Maybe two if you
partake of a beverage or two mid-way.

- -Mike

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From: joe
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 9:00 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 8.8 Rearend


One of these days I've got to change the seal on my wife's 93 F150 SC. The
Haines manual is saying something about using a torque wrench to measure
the torque required to take the nut off, so you can preload the bearing
when you put it back on. I think they mentioned a inch pound torque wrench.
Is this practical using a digital model. Can anyone offer a little insight.

Thanks
Joe Phillip

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:23:34 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco

CphgnCwby1 aol.com wrote:

> 1985 Full Size Bronco
> Silver Out
> Maroon In
> Intrerior really nice, no rips, no cracks in dash
> Exterior, pretty good, little rust
> ENGINE, DON'T KNOW, WHAT WOULD, COULD it be?
>
> The guy at the dealer has it listed as $4995.00

Bart, I bought my '83 3 years ago next month from a guy who purchased
it new in '82. There was no rust, seats were reapholstered, exterior
no rust or dents, and engine had been completely checked and he replaced
raidator, carb and new block, and warn brushguard.
Take a looksy:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=39

The truck had 78K and I paid $4500. I was lucky cause he took good
care of it. But you don't know who's garage that ones been in. :-) I think
its a little steep. Is it fully functional ? I would go test out the 4wd in the
mud. Even if you have to wash it off at the car wash. How many miles on it ?
- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-) :-))


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:12:56 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Advise on Old Diesel Truck

I have been looking around recently for another truck. I'd like it to
be under $5000, diesel, and prefer extended cab and 4wd, in that order.
I have looked at some that were not either (xcab or 4x) or just one, but
not both. For some reason they all seem to be '86s. Anything I should
look out for?

Birken
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:51:09 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - VALUE...1985 Full-size Bronco

Hey , I bought my 1989 f-250 for 4,000.00 with 106k miles on it. 5.8 engine.
it was in great shape but had no power options, windows door locks etc. I got
mine from a small dealer in clearwater fl, but the guy was nice he gave me a
good deal.

Joe

p.s. I now own an 89 e-250 that I bought for 950.00 but im into it for
3,500.00, but its new again.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:38:00 -0600
From: "Gourde, Darrin"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer Calibration

Can somebody tell me how to calibrate the speedometer for larger diameter
tires on 1992 and up F150s? If this was answered in the past I missed it.
Thanks

Darrin
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:04:49 -0500
From: Matthew Hayduk
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

HELP! My 83 will no fire up! I've changed the plugs, cap, rotor and
ignition control module. Still NOTHING, not even a sputter, the motor
turns over fine and just spins and spinds! :-( Any ideas!!!!!!!!!! I
need my truck back up and running! :-(

TIA


Matthew Hayduk
matt plusweb.net ICQ: 3680882 pager.mirabilis.com

94 SVT Cobra Coupe White/Black Leather #4270 of 5009 SCOA
9.176 76.069 Mph PERSONAL TOP SPEED: 137 mph
- K&N FIPK
- Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers with no tailpipes
- Pro 5.0 Power Tower Shifter
- Autometer Cowl Mounted Fuel Pres Guage
83 F150 XLT 300ci I6 A/T
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:25:16 PST
From: "Steve Likness"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 351W Serpantine Belt

I've been reading a little about a serpantine belt system for the 351W.
I have an '82 Ford that I'm converting from a 300 I6 to the 351W (I've
mentioned this before) and now would be the ideal time to convert to a
single belt. Does anyone have plans on how to do this? Where can I
purchase parts?

Also, I'm having a difficult time matching up the intake and carb (4
bbl) to the 351W while still retaining the ability to pass vehicle
inspection. I live in NC and I'm not sure what combo I can use. I
looked at the Edelbrock Performer for the 84-86 351 along with a Holley
street legal 600 cfm to match. I'm not sure why of if the manifold will
bolt up and work on the '82. Any help out there? If you were to put
together a good solid street/stock engine, what would you include?


Thanks,

Steve

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:09:29 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

Matthew Hayduk wrote:

> HELP! My 83 will no fire up! I've changed the plugs, cap, rotor and
> ignition control module. Still NOTHING, not even a sputter, the motor
> turns over fine and just spins and spinds! :-( Any ideas!!!!!!!!!! I
> need my truck back up and running! :-(
>

Is your coil firing? If you've got a timing light, you can check for a spark
at the wire. If not, you'll have to remove a plug, put the plug wire back on
it, have someone turn the engine over, take a pair of insulated pliers and
hold the plug to the block, (grounding it) you should see a spark.

If no spark, remove cap and make sure rotor button is turning (if not
probably timing chain) if turning, check coil, coil wire.

You did not state what electrical/fuel system you have, there could be other
things...


Bob


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:31:24 -0800
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

Matthew Hayduk wrote:
>
> HELP! My 83 will no fire up! I've changed the plugs, cap, rotor and
> ignition control module. Still NOTHING, not even a sputter, the motor
> turns over fine and just spins and spinds! :-( Any ideas!!!!!!!!!! I
> need my truck back up and running! :-(


I am reminded of the time that my brother-in-law was attempting to start
his Ford wrecker after completing a valve job. He had been trying for 4
hours to start it with no results. My wife (who did not know much about
engines) stood there for a few minutes and then said,"Does it have any
gas in it?" B-in Law smacked himself in the forehead, picked up a gas
can, walked over to the gas pump and filled it. After putting some gas
in the tank, it fired right up. Of course, we all stood there and
laughed at him. This guy ws a professional mechanic, owned a service
station and a wrecker service. Can happen to anyone.
Paul in Portland OR
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:04:05 -0500
From: "T.C. Stoppelbein"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

Soorry but sounds like you lost timing belt 150 .00 bucks
Good luck,
Chris Stoppelbein

302 EFI
AOD
4x4
4" body lift
35x12.50x15

- -----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Hayduk
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 1:54 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!


>HELP! My 83 will no fire up! I've changed the plugs, cap, rotor and
>ignition control module. Still NOTHING, not even a sputter, the motor
>turns over fine and just spins and spinds! :-( Any ideas!!!!!!!!!! I
>need my truck back up and running! :-(
>
>TIA
>
>
>Matthew Hayduk
>matt plusweb.net ICQ: 3680882 pager.mirabilis.com
>
>94 SVT Cobra Coupe White/Black Leather #4270 of 5009 SCOA
> 9.176 76.069 Mph PERSONAL TOP SPEED: 137 mph
> - K&N FIPK
> - Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers with no tailpipes
> - Pro 5.0 Power Tower Shifter
> - Autometer Cowl Mounted Fuel Pres Guage
>83 F150 XLT 300ci I6 A/T
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:12:34 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

In a message dated 1/27/99 1:14:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, cstopp usa.net
writes:


Good luck,
Chris Stoppelbein

302 EFI >>
Arent the 300 ci 6's equipped with gears instead of belts or chains?

Joe
Lost in Jersey
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:30:20 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - T/C Lock-up 92 E4OD...almost there! And Plug wire stuff.....

I tried the 4-ways / brake touch thing and it worked!!! I am going to (if
time EVER permits!!!) do the switch...I Like the way it felt!!!!

I had pretty bad pinging (even on 92 octane premium fuel) and today got a
bad lumpy idle...got under the hood...(hate being a mechanic!) and rerouted
the wires apart as much as I could...it ran great!!! coming back with 850
pounds in bed and almost 3000 pound trailer...NEVER a ping!!!!

I HIGHLY recommend rerouting!!!!!!

S'all for now!!!

Dave H.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:53:39 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

Matt
I would check the fuel pump and fuel lines myself and I would also check the
voltage regulator.
Just one more thing...on your signature list at the end of your post you list
your '94 Cobra going 9.176 76.069 Mph. If I were you I would state that as it
being an 1/8th mile time as not to lead people to believe that you have
accomplished the impossible with so few mods as you have listed. Just my
personal opinion.
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab
Wayne's Flareside Page
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:48:57 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer Calibration

Darrin,
There are 2 ways you can calibrate the Speedometer. 1 is to buy the right
sized ratio gear to match the tire size you are buying (any Speedo shop can
help you pick the right one) or 2. You can contact Interactive Technologies at
(800-820-1082/770-720-1259/Fax 770-720-1249). They have a cool little
electronic box that you can adjust to change the Speedo reading for changing
the gear ratio, tires or even changing out the dash gauges (I called them to
get one as I am going with the Lightning gauge cluster for the higher mph
Speedo). Again, I know I have referred several people to this company but I am
not involved with this company. I just know good customer service when I have
received it, and gang, these people give it in spades.
My.02
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab
Wayne's Flareside Page
In a message dated 1/27/99 1:50:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dgourde casecorp.com writes:


tires on 1992 and up F150s? If this was answered in the past I missed it.
Thanks

Darrin >>
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:08:55 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - T/C Lock-up 92 E4OD...almost there! And Plug wire stuff.....

Dave H. Wrote:
> I tried the 4-ways / brake touch thing and it worked!!! I am going to (if
> time EVER permits!!!) do the switch...I Like the way it felt!!!!
>
I tried this on my '95 F-150 E4OD last night and it did not work.
The lock-up disengage is barely noticeable if it is even happening at all.
Come to think of it, I can't feel the TC lock-up at all.

I do notice that when I am coasting about 30-35 and I push the
Overdrive disengage button, the truck drags down a little. I push it in
after getting off the highway and I coast into a 25 MPH speed zone to slow
me down to around 25 so I don't have to drag the brake.

If it is engaging/disengaging, I can't feel it. My '83 Mustang GLX
had a 3 speed auto with the TC lock-up so I know what it feels like. It
would kick in right after it hit third, after the engine was not under load.
It was almost like I was going into OD or fourth gear. This one must be much
smoother because I can't tell. I am starting to wonder if anything is wrong.

Scott
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:22:39 EST
From: RQTHOMSON aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - idle problems

Be carefull, some of those fluids will crash oxygen sensors.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:25:36 EST
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

Hey I am not sure about your vehicle, or if it was even an offer on the carb.
models, but howz about the little inertia switch. I had one go off for no
reason, I cranked and cranked, until I checked my fuel pressure, none, then I
checked the pump not working, so I checked the power, none......INERTIA
SWITCH, I reset it and it fired up in just a couple of sec.

Hope this helps
BART
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:55:02 -0500
From: Paul
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid

The right door power lock "actuator" went bad on my 91 Bronco; a spot
check of local auto parts stores told me this is a dealer-only
part...dealer wants about $115 each! Shazaam! For a $30 part made in
Mexico, no less!

Anyone know of any sources! Also, 3 cars I am familiar with all have
had ONLY the right side go bad...is this a conspiracy?

Oh well,
Paul G.
Waynesboro, Va
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:14:30 -0500
From: "PmctBaker"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Torque converter fluid change

hello all,

I have a 1985 C-6 trans I want to change the fluid out. the tranny is
starting to grab, and the fluid has a burnt smell. the color is more of a
brown than red too, but...
once I get the old fluid out of the converter and pan, what's the best way
to fill the converter back up? through the dipstick filler tube, or is
there another way? the capacity is 10-14 quarts, would taking off the
filler tube, and filling the pan up first help speed the process up?

thanks
mike

1985 f-150
351 4x4

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:55:55 PST
From: "Scottie Schmidt"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Style

Hi,
Anybody know what the 99 body style is for e-series vehicles(99 350
or old style)???

Scottie Schmidt


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:07:02 -0000
From: "Russ Cominsky"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - V-6 firing order for Rangers

Can anyone tell me the firing order of the V-6 Ranger? Its a 1984. I cant seem to find it on the intke manifold.

Thanks.


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:14:34 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid

Hey!!! My right side power door lock solenoid is going out too!!!
We should sue...
David, what do you think?

Rade
- -----Original Message-----
From: Paul
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 1:58 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid


>The right door power lock "actuator" went bad on my 91 Bronco; a spot
>check of local auto parts stores told me this is a dealer-only
>part...dealer wants about $115 each! Shazaam! For a $30 part made in
>Mexico, no less!
>
>Anyone know of any sources! Also, 3 cars I am familiar with all have
>had ONLY the right side go bad...is this a conspiracy?
>
>Oh well,
>Paul G.
>Waynesboro, Va
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:06:55 EST
From: AeroAce13 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: bad idle

it is a carb.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:46:50 -0600
From: David Cole
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Torque converter fluid change

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, so please don't shoot the messenger.

If the fluid is burnt, chances are very good that that clutches and/or band
is or is soon to be toast. Time for a tranny rebuild. The good news. You
can do it yourself. The C-6 is just about the easiest trans to rebuild.
Get yourself a Haynes trans maunal ( $12) and a rebuild kit ($100 or $135
for hi-po). Basic hand tools will do. No special tools other than some
good snap ring pliers are needed. With the trans and converter out you can
refill the converter with about three quarts before you install it. Three
quarts is enough to get the pumping started and the converter will fill
itself from the fluid in the pan..

If you still just want to change the fluid do it this way. Drain the pan.
Also, while the pan is removed disconnect the front cooler line fitting
from the trans. Use compressed air and blow through this line towards the
radiator. This will clear out the cooler lines. You'll be surprised at
the junk that comes out. Drain the converter by removing the inspection
cover at the bottom of the bellhousing. Turn the engine by hand with the
crank bolt and a breaker bar. Turn it until converter drain plug is at the
bottom. Drain the converter. To refill. Remove the starter. Turn the
engine by hand 90 degrees. Access the drain plug hole (now at the 9:00
position) throught the starter hole in the bellhousing. Use a section of
vacum hose and a squeeze bottle to put the three quarts into the converter.
Then replace the drain plug and starter.

Put another 5 in through the fill tube. Don't put in more than 5 or the
whole rotating assembly of the trans will be immersed in fluid. Bad. Take
a look at your pan and you'll realize that it doesn't hold much. Once the
engine is running the trans pump will be filling the converter and all the
internal passages with fluid. Then you can add more. Start the engine and
add the rest. Check the fluid level after every quart. With capacity being
varied from 10-14 qts, you don't want to overfill. Stop adding when the
dipstick shows 1 quart low. It won't hurt it to be a bit low for a few
minutes. Wait until the trans is hot before you put in the last bit of
fluid. The fluid will expand quite a bit and it is easy to overfill it

That's about it.

Later,

David Cole.

At 09:14 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>hello all,
>
>I have a 1985 C-6 trans I want to change the fluid out. the tranny is
>starting to grab, and the fluid has a burnt smell. the color is more of a
>brown than red too, but...
>once I get the old fluid out of the converter and pan, what's the best way
>to fill the converter back up? through the dipstick filler tube, or is
>there another way? the capacity is 10-14 quarts, would taking off the
>filler tube, and filling the pan up first help speed the process up?
>
>thanks
>mike
>
>1985 f-150
>351 4x4


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:03:00 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Power door solenoid

Go to the junkyard to find the part, or jc whitney mail order catalog. good
luck.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:27:09 -0600
From: "Harris, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!

You said you changed the ign. mod., this is what happened to me(85 F150 FE)
driving down the street, it just died. Ford said the module & coil were bad
and this worked to fix it. But a couple of months later it did it again and
it turned out to be bad connection on ign. mod. Is your rotor turning?
Backtracking fire from plugs to coil?

Just some thoughts

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Matthew Hayduk [SMTP:matt plusweb.net]
> Sent:Wednesday, January 27, 1999 1:05 PM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:FTE 80-96 - 83 F150 WILL NOT START!
>
> HELP! My 83 will no fire up! I've changed the plugs, cap, rotor and
> ignition control module. Still NOTHING, not even a sputter, the motor
> turns over fine and just spins and spinds! :-( Any ideas!!!!!!!!!! I
> need my truck back up and running! :-(
>
> TIA
>
>
> Matthew Hayduk
> matt plusweb.net ICQ: 3680882 pager.mirabilis.com
>
> 94 SVT Cobra Coupe White/Black Leather #4270 of 5009 SCOA
> 9.176 76.069 Mph PERSONAL TOP SPEED: 137 mph
> - K&N FIPK
> - Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers with no tailpipes
> - Pro 5.0 Power Tower Shifter
> - Autometer Cowl Mounted Fuel Pres Guage
> 83 F150 XLT 300ci I6 A/T
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:33:54 -0500
From: Tom Gunby....


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