80-96-list-digest Tuesday, May 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 146



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position
FTE 80-96 - Radiator/fan question
RE: FTE 80-96 - F250 CAD drawings
RE: FTE 80-96 - clicking
FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my lifetime
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford truck factory
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radiator/fan question
FTE 80-96 - NEW MEMBER
Re: FTE 80-96 - '89 351 idle surge problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - '89 351 idle surge problem
FTE 80-96 - Engine missing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford truck factory
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine missing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine missing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position
Re: FTE 80-96 - clicking
Re: FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my lifetime
FTE 80-96 - Black exhaust
Re: FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my lifetime
Re: FTE 80-96 - Radio reception

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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:47:55 -0400
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position

All together now: "Not another post about mileage!" Well,
it is. I actually have no complaints about the mileage of my truck,
because it's a whole lot better than what I got in the 84 Bronco I used
to have. I've got a 95 F150 4x4 with the 302 (mass air) and E4OD (ack!).
My question is whether engine speed or accelerator position
has more of an effect on fuel economy. The E4OD tends to shift into
OD way too early most of the time and I've been playing around a little
to try to find a way around it. The obvious thing is to keep the OD off,
which I do most of the time.
What I've found in many instances is that when I'm cruising
along (say at 50mph) with the OD on, and then turn it off without
moving the accelerator, it truck will tend to speed up. It makes some
sense in that it has more power in the lower gear, but I this brings me
to the point of this post.
If the accelerator position determines how much gas is getting
dumped into the engine, then keeping the OD on in the 50mph case
is actually wasting gas since I can get more out of it with the OD off,
right?
...Or am I completely off on this one? Just wondering.

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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:02:19 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Radiator/fan question

Yo Gang:

After 19.5 years (227K miles) , the radiator in Ol' Betsy (1980 F250 4x4 351M)
has given up. I have found what seems to be a good deal on a 4-core unit made
by an outfit called GDI. Has anyone ever heard of this GDI company? The parts
house offers a "lifetime" guarantee on it (but I'm on my third "lifetime" fuel
pump and second "lifetime" water pump, so who knows?).

On a related topic, now that I'm thinking of switching from the OEM 2-core unit
to a 4-core radiator, is it worth getting a lightweight flex fan? I've been
reluctant to get one before now because I thought the OEM fan would pull more
air, although it is a bit heavy. I can't afford to go w/ electrics right now.
(Have to save my coins for that killer 400 rebuild project... stay focused....)

Thanks for your input.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:31:19 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - F250 CAD drawings

Amos,

Having just completed a course on "Drilling and Mining" at the Colorado
School of Mines, I saw many examples of small drilling rigs. The smallest
that is a directional rig that is used to drill under road ways and
sidewalks. It is very small and could easily fit on the back of a F250. If
you have ever driven by a construction site you may have seen them without
realizing it.

They lay the tubing as it drills and pull out the drill bit when they reach
the other side or they can steer it back up the surface within one hundred
feet.

Usually these are pulled behind a Ford truck on a very small trailer, but I
see no reason why a small rig as this could not be placed on the rear frame
of an F250. There are also rigs that use water jets to drill holes in soft
soils such as you may see in that area and I see no reason why a water jet
could not be used for short depths.

A F250 will be perfect for this type of work, the rigs some of the guys are
talking about are the commercial water drilling rigs used to go very deep,
sometimes a thousand feet. Some rigs use impact drills, which is the most
efficient, for drilling holes for explosives but they normally go that deep.
If the water table is under 500 feet any type of small rig would be
adequate.

I still haven't got an answer to my posts about the CAD model but sometimes
it takes time. I saw a similar post on the CAD lists for a model of the Star
Trek Enterprise and someone actually had one but it was a while before they
found it. I suppose they (computer geeks) would be more determined to create
a model like that than a truck enthusiast would but time will tell.

I will let you know immediately if I hear anything.

Scott

- -----Original Message-----
From:Amos Pressley [SMTP:virtumec usit.net]
Sent:Sunday, May 23, 1999 6:28 PM
To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:Re: FTE 80-96 - F250 CAD drawings


> It all depends how deep they need to go. Perhaps something they could haul
> on a large flatbed and then drag with a dozer back into the hills would be
> better. I still think an old army truck would be good, or a 4x4 F-600
sized
> Ford. Any pickup would be really too small for much. Big trucks are
usually
> cheaper anyway.

Honestly, as I said before, I do not know how they are going to do it right
now. I am not a well driller, I just know how to run the CAD program. I just
know that the F-250 truck has already been donated and they have a
technician that knows how to make it work. They are a group that is
accustomed to doing a lot with a little (we see this kind of heroism in the
movies, but I guess since none of these folks are involved in a scandal, you
never hear about them).

All they want from me is a graphical representation of what they are going
to do. All I am looking for is existing 3d CAD files so I don't have to
reinvent the wheel in order to get things started. As I said before, I will
know more about the details when I get the first drawing back from the
technician with redlines.

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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:17:58 +0200
From: "David Anderson (EUS)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - clicking

I've been looking at maybe the same thing with my 90 f-150 with 300 I-6. Sounds like an exhaust manifold, header or heat riser valve leak, however, these are all tight. Does not sound like a lifter or tappet. Mine happens only at 1500-1700 rpm in every gear. Tends to be louder in the winter months. I've tested for a short distance without a serpentine belt eliminating all accessories and I've replaced the EGR valve and inspected the idle air bypass valve. If yours sounds anything like exhaust, start by inspecting the entire exhaust system. Keep me posted.
Thanks,
David Anderson

>>>I dont know if this has been brought up before, but I thought I would ask
anyway. I have an 89 f-150 with the 300 I-6, and recently I have noticed
a "clicking" noise during acceleration. The noise is only present when
the truck is in gear and the gas pedal is depressed. (In other words, I
cant hear it in neutral just revving the engine.) It also increases
frequency with higher rpms. Has this ever happened to anyone?

Luke Schreier


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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:24:15 -0400
From: John DeVincentis
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my lifetime

I finally had to replace my 7 year old Motorcraft battery on my 1992
F-150.
The truck (battery) has 130K miles on it.
Can anyone beat these numbers?

- --
Thanks.

Regards,
John Dee




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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:14:19 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford truck factory

>From: 90BMW325i webzone.net
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford truck factory
>
Where are the Ford truck factories located
>in the US? Which one has the biggest volume?
>
>Thanks, Justin

Yo Justin:

Ford used to build their heavy trucks (Aeromax, LTL series, etc.) at the plant
in Louisville, KY. I read in a press release last year, shortly after Ford sold
their heavy truck division to Daimler Benz, that they sold the designs and
tooling, but not the physical plant in KY. Ford said that when it was
completely re-tooled, they expect to produce over 25,000 Expeditions and F150s
per month at the Louisville plant.

I don't know how that compares to the other truck plants.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:48:10 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radiator/fan question

Yo Dude
When it comes to radiators I SWEAR by Modine . Ive never had one let me down
yet and years ago when I used to operate a fleet of NYC cabs, any car that
needed a radiator got a modine radiator ( or heater core) and we seldom had a
problem.
Besides you know that if ya put a cheapie or no name in there it will go at
like two oclock in the am on the darkest deserted area.. so if its your truck
why not put in the best?????????
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:45:39 -0400
From: Tkaczyk
Subject: FTE 80-96 - NEW MEMBER

Hello,
I'm a brand new member to the 80-96 list, and I would appreciate any
help you can give me. I've just put the original, rebuilt 460 engine
back into my 83 F250 (standard, no AC, no cat). It's been a year since
I pulled the engine, and some of the tags I made with masking tape have
either fallen off or had the lettering become unreadable. I have 2
questions for anyone who might have this truck/engine: 1) the vacuum
distributor at the back of the intake manifold has 3 fittings for vacuum
lines: I've connected the power brake booster hose, but need to know
what goes to the other 2 fittings. The second question: I have a 2
wire electrical connector (both wires are solid red) that seems to want
to be located at the back of the intake manifold, but I can't find
anything that needs to be connected back there (or any where else). Any
help you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks.

Gary in Connecticut

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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:53:44 -0700
From: "JOHN D. ZMIERSKI"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '89 351 idle surge problem

yes, its the Ilde Air Control Valve, I helped design these things. Take it
off, and spray WD-40 in it, and dry it off, that will take care of it!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Mueller
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 9:42 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '89 351 idle surge problem


>Hey all!
>Perhaps someone out there may have an idea on my problem.
>Truck is an 89 F-150 XLT 351, A/T (not 4aod), 4x4, Supercab, Longbed, dual
>tank, with black pealing paint.
>All of a sudden (as in one day), at idle I'm getting a big up and down
>surge. The motor will go down and almost die then bounce back up and
>recover. The cycle continues at a rate of about 3-4 seconds each with no
>break. As soon as you bring it up off of idle the problem goes away and
the
>truck runs fine.
>
>Things I don't know...
> last time fuel filter was replaced,
> last tune up,
> who's going to win the Stanley Cup
>
>Things I do know...
> air filter is clean and new,
> both tanks have new clean gas in them,
> I put in 2 bottles of Techron with the new gas,
> I'd like to see Hasek meet Roy in the finals and have it go down to
game
>7 in double OT!
>
>I'm thinking it's a FI problem or something related to it. I don't think
>it's bad gas as it came on in the middle of a full tank whereas if it was
>bad gas it would have hit as soon as I filled it up. The Techron has
worked
>to clean up injectors in the past on other vehicles but I really think
>because this is only at idle that it's not the injectors but something
>related. Any ideas? Anyone have the same problem? I left the following
>quote from today's digest as just a thought, do I have an IAC Valve and
>could it be something like this?
>Anyone think a Belfour vs. Cujo matchup would be fun?
>Let me know!
>
>Thanks!
>Mike Mueller
>The Leasing Dept.
>"Clean Hockey is the best Hockey"
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:55:24 -0500
>> From: Danny Metz
>> Subject: FTE 80-96 - IAC Valve Adjustments??
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My 90 F-150 with a 5.0 is stalling at idle when the AC is on, and I turn
>> the wheels sharply. This happened about 40k miles ago, and the shop
>> cleaned the idle air control valve and replaced it. That solved the
>> problem. As long as the motor that drives the valve is good, I assume
all
>> it needs is another cleaning, or replacement.
>> Now, my question! If I just clean or replace the IAC valve, is there any
>> adjustment, or special orientation I need to do before I reinstall it on
>> the engine? Thanks!
>>
>> Danny
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:57:22 -0700
From: "JOHN D. ZMIERSKI"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '89 351 idle surge problem

take your IAC off and spray wd-40 in it until its clean.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Blake Malkamaki
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '89 351 idle surge problem


>>Hey all!
>>Perhaps someone out there may have an idea on my problem.
>>Truck is an 89 F-150 XLT 351, A/T (not 4aod), 4x4, Supercab, Longbed, dual
>>tank, with black pealing paint.
>>All of a sudden (as in one day), at idle I'm getting a big up and down
>>surge. The motor will go down and almost die then bounce back up and
>>recover. The cycle continues at a rate of about 3-4 seconds each with no
>>break. As soon as you bring it up off of idle the problem goes away and
the
>>truck runs fine.
>>
>>Things I don't know...
>> last time fuel filter was replaced,
>> last tune up,
>> who's going to win the Stanley Cup
>>
>>Things I do know...
>> air filter is clean and new,
>> both tanks have new clean gas in them,
>> I put in 2 bottles of Techron with the new gas,
>> I'd like to see Hasek meet Roy in the finals and have it go down to
game
>>7 in double OT!
>>
>>I'm thinking it's a FI problem or something related to it. I don't think
>>it's bad gas as it came on in the middle of a full tank whereas if it was
>>bad gas it would have hit as soon as I filled it up. The Techron has
worked
>>to clean up injectors in the past on other vehicles but I really think
>>because this is only at idle that it's not the injectors but something
>>related. Any ideas? Anyone have the same problem? I left the following
>>quote from today's digest as just a thought, do I have an IAC Valve and
>>could it be something like this?
>>Anyone think a Belfour vs. Cujo matchup would be fun?
>>Let me know!
>>
>
>Mine did the same thing a couple of weeks ago and it would quit at some
>stops. It stopped it on its own and has not does it since.
>
>Now it misses a couple times now and then, but runs great otherwise. I
>don't know what it is.
>
>
>Blake
>Little Mountain
>Concord, Ohio
>Early Oil Well Historian
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:01:17 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engine missing

My 88 F-150 w/302 and 5 speed just started missing now and then. Seems to
be only under 2000 rpm. It just misses a cylinder now and then. Not a
continuous miss. It has new spark plugs, but could use some new wires. Any
ideas please?


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:12:02 -0400
From: "Max W. Cottrell"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford truck factory

Well, the truck plant in Dearborn, Michigan would
probably be the largest plant.

90BMW325i webzone.net wrote:

> Where are the Ford truck factories located in the US? Which one has the
> biggest volume?
>
> Thanks, Justin
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:10:15 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position

Mike-
You are off on this (but I like the way you're thinkin'!) It is much more
complex than that. Manifold vacuum also plays a part. The computer keeps
the mixture at the correct level, no matter what the operating condition.
When you take OD off you increase RPM, vacuum actually goes up, fuel used
on each intake stroke of each piston goes down (that's what actually
matters) but RPM went up, remember? so fuel consumption per mile goes up.

At 10:47 24/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
>What I've found in many instances is that when I'm cruising
>along (say at 50mph) with the OD on, and then turn it off without
>moving the accelerator, it truck will tend to speed up. It makes some
>sense in that it has more power in the lower gear, but I this brings me
>to the point of this post.
>If the accelerator position determines how much gas is getting
>dumped into the engine, then keeping the OD on in the 50mph case
>is actually wasting gas since I can get more out of it with the OD off,
>right?
>...Or am I completely off on this one? Just wondering.
>
>-Mike
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'63 Buick Riviera
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:30:57 EDT
From: Mobilepdr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine missing

I'll bet ya its your wires mine just went on my 302 also at about
60,000 miles started missing only at high way speeds with the rpm's around
1700-2000 ,i changed them and it made a world of difference especially when
towing my boat so they must of been really shot.........ding
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:35:20 EDT
From: Mobilepdr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position

I must agree i have a 5.0 (302) also and it goes into OD way way to
early i'll be cruising on the back country S roads and i'll be doing 40-45
and it'll drop into OD and drop the rpm's to 1400 rpms it sucks...Then you
gotta either turn off the OD button or hit the gas at least half way
down..and then i run into the same question you have running with the OD off
it runs a lil higher around 2000-2200 which yes will burn more gas...Then if
you were to leave it in OD and just grandma it...But i believe continous
switching of the tranny in and out of OD is just a waste of
time/heat/unecessary wear...so leave it off until you basically hit 45 or
so............ding
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:27:39 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine missing

>I'll bet ya its your wires mine just went on my 302 also at about
>60,000 miles started missing only at high way speeds with the rpm's around
>1700-2000 ,i changed them and it made a world of difference especially when
>towing my boat so they must of been really shot.........ding
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Thanks. I bought some new ones and am going out to put them on right now.
Will report the results tomorrow.

The coil wire already went bad and I replaced it with another one I had.
The rest of the wires are from the same set so they are most likely bad.
They are not the originals, but are Advance Auto replacements from Jan
1996. My original wires on my 78 F-150 lasted more than 15 years.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
Early Oil Well Historian
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:31:48 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine RPM vs. Pedal Position

>I must agree i have a 5.0 (302) also and it goes into OD way way to
>early i'll be cruising on the back country S roads and i'll be doing 40-45
>and it'll drop into OD and drop the rpm's to 1400 rpms it sucks...Then you
>gotta either turn off the OD button or hit the gas at least half way
>down..and then i run into the same question you have running with the OD off
>it runs a lil higher around 2000-2200 which yes will burn more gas...Then if
>you were to leave it in OD and just grandma it...But i believe continous
>switching of the tranny in and out of OD is just a waste of
>time/heat/unecessary wear...so leave it off until you basically hit 45 or
>so............ding
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Our 89 F-250 diesel with a C-6 has the oposite proplem. It always
downshifts too soon, making the engine scream too much. At 35 mph it can't
make up its mind and goes up and down.

Our 87 F-350 diesel has a B-W 4 speed and is so much more comfortable to
drive than the automatic. If not pulling hard, that diesel will chug right
along at 1000 rpm.

I am really begining to hate automatics.

Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:40:27 -0700
From: "Mark Behling"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - clicking

Had the same exact sound on my truck and it turned out to be coming from the air
injection rack. It was basically a small exhaust leak at one of the pipe fitting ferule
nuts on the head. I got lucky, since ford replaced the whole rack, ferules and nuts
under the emissions warranty. They ended up having to remove intake manifold assembly
just to get to it! Although a guy at my work had the same problem on his truck. He just
bought a crows foot wrench and tightens them up every once in a while when they get
loose.

Mark
'96 F150 I6 5spd




>I dont know if this has been brought up before, but I thought I would ask
>anyway. I have an 89 f-150 with the 300 I-6, and recently I have noticed
>a "clicking" noise during acceleration. The noise is only present when
>the truck is in gear and the gas pedal is depressed. (In other words, I
>cant hear it in neutral just revving the engine.) It also increases
>frequency with higher rpms. Has this ever happened to anyone?
>
>Luke Schreier
>


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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:03:06 -0500
From: Matthew Banevich
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my lifetime

John DeVincentis wrote:
>
> I finally had to replace my 7 year old Motorcraft battery on my 1992
> F-150.
> The truck (battery) has 130K miles on it.
> Can anyone beat these numbers?
>
> --
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> John Dee
>
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Ya, I have a Friend with an 69' Chevy corvette, the battery he got from
K-Mart fourteen years ago still works fine!!!!
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:59:28 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Black exhaust

My truck's exhaust seems to run real black. Sooty, almost as much as a
diesel. Could that be from a bad oxygen sensor? It has no converters so
could that do it?

Thanks.

Blake Malkamaki -- Concord Township, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 1990 04:11:19 -0400
From: "Ken Raymond"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my lifetime

Hey John, I replaced my motorcraft battery on my 86 F150
last year
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From: Matthew Banevich
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Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Best battery that I've seen in my
lifetime


>John DeVincentis wrote:
>>
>> I finally had to replace my 7 year old Motorcraft battery
on my 1992
>> F-150.
>> The truck (battery) has 130K miles on it.
>> Can anyone beat these numbers?
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>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Dee
>>
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>Ya, I have a Friend with an 69' Chevy corvette, the battery
he got from
>K-Mart fourteen years ago still works fine!!!!
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 1990 04:46:56 -0400
From: "Ken Raymond"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Radio reception

Hey Bud, I read one reply to your query that said FM
stations don't need an antenna, this is not true and he is a
moron. How far away from you are the FM stations you listen
to? Hills and mountains make a difference too, they can
block or partially block reception on the other side. If the
stations you listen to are lets say 40 or 50 miles distant
you probably need a signal booster. there are different
manufacturers of these and of course you get what you pay
for, but you will want to have at least 10 dB gain more is
better in this case. follow the installation instructions
that come with whatever device you decide on. also most
radios have an antenna tuning adjustment that is usually a
small screw head some where on the radio (you will have to
remove the radio for this) and this should be marked, might
say ant. or ant. trim or tun, something like that. This
little adjustment can make a big difference. Of course you
should make sure that your antenna is connected properly (no
breaks or cracks in the coax) that your antenna is firmly
attached to the fender (ground) and for FM reception your
antenna should be around 30 inches. hope this helps....

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