80-96-list-digest Sunday, May 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 130



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - DRI injectors
Re: FTE 80-96 - Intake snorkel
Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - intake snorkle]
Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - intake snorkle]
Re: FTE 80-96 - intake snorkle
FTE 80-96 - Re: 4.9 intake snorkle
FTE 80-96 - Fw: FTE 80-96 Polyurethane Bushings
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 4.9 intake snorkle
Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of 5.0 performance.../AOD Leaking
FTE 80-96 - Re: Serious Electrical Problem
FTE 80-96 - Re: big block blues
FTE 80-96 - hard working trucks
FTE 80-96 - RE: intake snorkle

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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:23:40 -0500
From: vince a smith
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - DRI injectors

Mark Behling wrote:

> With all this talk about fuel injector cleaning lately. I thought it would be a
> good idea to get mine cleaned, since it seems to run a little rough at idle. So I
> called the Ford dealer to see how much an injector cleaning would cost. The service
> advisior said I had "DRI" or "Deposit Resistant Injectors" and didn't require cleaning.
> He said newer Fords have injectors which have a special coating that eliminates the
> need for cleaning. He also claimed, there is a TSB on against using fuel system
> cleaners. Which can wash off the special coating and cause premature wear of the
> injector needle. Has anybody heard about this type of injector on newer Fords or is the
> dealer just BS'n me?
>
> Mark
> '96 F150 I6 5sp
>
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Mark,
I have all the TSB's for the 1993 and it has one for Deposit Resistant Injectors, It has a
chart of when they were installed. Started in 1991 and and looks like all Ford 's with the
exception of Aerostar 4.0 L had the DRI's in 1993. As far as cleaning goes TSB say cleaning
is still allowed on the Aerostar, which infers it is not allowed on the rest of the Fords.
If anyone has a 1990 to 1993 truck and are unsure about the type of injectors here is the
scoop

>From TSB # 93-15-7
ALL DRI injectors part numbers start with the letter F.
1990-1992 DRI Injector Body colors
Tan
Silver with Gold tint
Gold

1993 DRI injector Body colors
Gray
Black
Gold
Silver

Good luck,
Vince


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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 10:42:55 -0500
From: Dean
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Intake snorkel

My friend and I were driving to school when the intake snorkel elbow fell
onto the headers in a 87 bronco. We were a block from school, and I had
noted to him that the diesel in front of us made a funny smell ;-)

When we got into the school parking lot, and stopped, we smelled the odor
of burning plastic, and we saw smoke coming from under the hood! We had
many things running through our mind, like embarrasment, car fire, no
transportation, ruined engine, etc, and we poped open the hood immediately.
He instantly saw what had happend and threw the elbow on the ground, and
let the plastic burn off the header. It would have sucked if the plastic
would have ignited to flames, and engulfed the entire engine area!!! I
guess this had happend once before on him though. He did happen to have a
gallon of water with in an anti-freeze container, though, so we probably
could have put out a small fire....

It was very startling though...

- -Dean

At 09:06 PM 5/5/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>Yo docster,
> I am intrigued by the mods you have done. I would
>imagine that it would be like an "asmtha inhaler" for your
>truck. Are you aware of any issues involving the swapping
>of an intake snorkel....at all? Tell me, what exactly
>is/does the K&N filter. Also, if you do not mind me
>asking, what did the final bill come to when all was said
>and done? P.S. Any negatives beside cost? TIA, Chris
>(88' 302)
>
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Date: 8 May 99 08:46:10 PDT
From: William Berninghausen
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - intake snorkle]

Blake Malkamaki wrote:
> At 1:57 PM -0500 5/7/99, Delvis Teruel Jr Teruel wrote:
> >Yo Fellas, the airbox on the F-150/250 are the same. Only the intake
> >snorkle is different. I went and got mine from the dealer near me
> >(marysville wa). They had to order it, but it's alot cheaper than the
> >$170 K&N FIPK kit, even if it may not be as effective. I drive 90 mile=
s
> >a day to work and back so that's extra gas money for me. I hardly
> >off-road any more so ingesting water isn't a real issue for me.
> >
> =

> Does anyone know if the 300 -6 uses the over the top air pickup, or the=

> beside the radiator pickup?
> =

> =

> Blake
> Little Mountain
> Concord, Ohio
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My 82 F100 300/6 (carburetted) picks up air through a rigid duct that pee=
ks
out between the grill and the headlight just passenger-side of the radiat=
or. =

Anybody know a way to open that up?

Just a curiosity--anybody know of an aftermarket carb that fits the stock=

manifold? Does maybe Weber make one? (Holley can't be the only mfr).

Bill in Oregon

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:24:51 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: [Re: FTE 80-96 - intake snorkle]

>My 82 F100 300/6 (carburetted) picks up air through a rigid duct that peeks
>out between the grill and the headlight just passenger-side of the radiator.
>Anybody know a way to open that up?
>
>Just a curiosity--anybody know of an aftermarket carb that fits the stock
>manifold? Does maybe Weber make one? (Holley can't be the only mfr).
>
>Bill in Oregon
>
>
Thanks Bill, but I was thinking of the fuel injected varient of the species.


Blake
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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 12:02:23 -0500
From: christopher niels barker
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - intake snorkle

the snorkle on my 91 f150 330 I-6 was by the radiator.

At 07:20 PM 5/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>At 1:57 PM -0500 5/7/99, Delvis Teruel Jr Teruel wrote:
>>Yo Fellas, the airbox on the F-150/250 are the same. Only the intake
>>snorkle is different. I went and got mine from the dealer near me
>>(marysville wa). They had to order it, but it's alot cheaper than the
>>$170 K&N FIPK kit, even if it may not be as effective. I drive 90 miles
>>a day to work and back so that's extra gas money for me. I hardly
>>off-road any more so ingesting water isn't a real issue for me.
>>
>
>Does anyone know if the 300 -6 uses the over the top air pickup, or the
>beside the radiator pickup?
>
>
>Blake
>Little Mountain
>Concord, Ohio
>Early Oil Well Historian
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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: docster webtv.net (Delvis Teruel Jr Teruel)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 4.9 intake snorkle

By looking at my chiltons, it looks about the same as the 460 EFI set
up. You might wanna call up a dealer to see if it is.

Lotsa love Da docster

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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:22:29 -0600
From: "Bob D. Schliem"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fw: FTE 80-96 Polyurethane Bushings

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From: Bob D. Schliem
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:16 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 Polyurethane Bushings


> Several Weeks ago there was a discussion in the FTL on Polyurethane
Bushings
> for the STRUTS and that they are available from J.C. Whitney. Are these
the
> "Strut Arm Bushings For Ford Trucks with front coil springs" (as listed in
> Whitney Catalog #525 R, page 59, Item # 85DL9558W) the replacement for
Inner
> and Outer RADIUS ARM Insulators, as listed in the 1985 Ford Truck Manual?
I
> don't recognize the "Strut Arm" nomenclature for these parts. Can anyone
> give me a clue?
> Thanks for your Help.
> Bob
>
>


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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:49:10 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 4.9 intake snorkle

>By looking at my chiltons, it looks about the same as the 460 EFI set
>up. You might wanna call up a dealer to see if it is.
>

Well that answers why mine has it from the side of the radiator. The truck
came new with a 302, but the sticker on the top of the air cleaner says
"4.9 L". The sticker on the bottom of the hood says it's from a 460. The
guy bought this truck new and I have the window sticker, but he shore did
replace things. Maybe it was in a tornado!


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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 16:37:54 EDT
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Speaking of 5.0 performance.../AOD Leaking


Thanks for all the replies on my timing issue guys, I believe I have
it! Now, has anyone had any problems with their AOD's leaking ATF? I go
through about a quart every 7-10 days. It seems to be leaking from the top,
maybe the vent. The pan gasket is not leaking. Any ideas?

Thanks again,

Joe
Lost in Jersey
Still learning....
1992 F150 Nite
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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:44:32 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Serious Electrical Problem

On Fri, 07 May 1999, Matthew Banevich wrote:
>
> Paul Laughlin wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Banevich wrote:
> > > OK.... I think that is what I kinda replaced..... but now a new
> > > question, What does a fuseable link do? The thing that fried was a
> > > black piece of wire that looked to be 14ga cu wirethat was 6" long, and
> > > on the connector piece was molded "fuseable link".....
> > >
> > > I just replaced that portion with 10 ga wire!
> >
> > > Did I mess up by just replaing that thing with a regular piece of
> > > wire...
> >
> > Considering that the fusible link just kept you from frying your
> > electrical system, I would have thought that you would have no second
> > thoughts about replacin it with a like item.
> > Yes you screwed up!!!!
> > Paul in Portland OR
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> Sorry, this is the very first time I encountered the "fuseable link" I
> had never heard of it before.....
>
> Now.... since it is so important, How do I find the amperage at which
> this was rated? All I know was that the whole thing was black, no other
> things stamped on it!

The fusible link is not measured in amps, but in wire size. It is 4
gauge numbers smaller than the wiring it protects. In other words, if
you have a 10 gauge wire the fusible link will be 14 gauge. To replace
it, cut some insulation off the protected wire and solder the fusible
link to it. Then put some heat shrink tubing around it. On the other
end, which is probably a screw terminal (I'm guessing here), solder a
new terminal to the link, add some heat shrink there, and you're done.

I would not reccomend replacing a fusible link with a blade type or any
other type fuse since the fusible link is less likely to burn out from a
momentary surge.

Birken
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Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:52:28 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: big block blues

On Thu, 6 May 1999, chrislambeth email.com wrote:
>
> It's time that my 95 F-150 had a sort of a makeover. This in the way of a fuel injected 429 under the hood to replace the tired old 302. (good motor mind you, just 128 k on the thing) I was wondering if anybody had any insight, advice or whatever on how to pull this project off, as I am no EFI expert. If anybody has any ideas, or a good shop in the D/FW area of north Texas that can do a fuel injection conversion on the motor, anything would be helpful at this point.
>

Well, that depends. I would think a fuel injected 460 would be a better
idea, that is if you aren't looking for something totally custom. You
can get these stock. I don't think a 429 was offered injected.

You could have a fuel injected 429 by swapping the 460 parts to it, or
just by replacing the crank and pistons. (429 pistons are more
expensive than 460) It seems to me like a 460 would be a better choice.

Birken
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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:27:07 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - hard working trucks

My equestrian club took the herd on the road this weekend. You guys
should have seen our motive power: an F-100, two F-150s, an F-250 Crew
Cab, and an Expedition. Not an off-brand truck in the lot. Love them
hard working Fords!

lordjanusz juno.com
'94 F-150 300ci
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Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:21:33 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: intake snorkle

>>Does anyone know if the 300 -6 uses the over the top air pickup, or the
>>beside the radiator pickup?

'94 F150 300ci: beside the radiator. Personally I'd prefer cowl
induction or ram air, but I'm loath to chop a hole in a perfectly good
hood. If I ever need to replace it after a hailstorm or a Bambi-kaze
attack I'm getting a fiberglass hood with cowl induction. It would be
cool to do the whole doghouse in 'glass as a seamless unit, hinged
forward from the bumper... but I digress.

lordjanusz juno.com

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