80-96-list-digest Sunday, January 17 1999 Volume 03 : Number 012



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Heater and turn signal
FTE 80-96 - Re: F-150 problem of interest
FTE 80-96 - sand bags
Re: FTE 80-96 - sand bags
Re: FTE 80-96 - sand bags
Re: FTE 80-96 - sand bags
RE: FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel w/cruise
Re: FTE 80-96 - Help me please!
Re: FTE 80-96 - timing chain
Re: FTE 80-96 - Wheel hop
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ref: Owners Manual
Re: FTE 80-96 - Help me please!
FTE 80-96 - RE: Help me please! ('96 460 horsepower)
FTE 80-96 - RE: Timing Chain
FTE 80-96 - RE: HP and TORQUE
FTE 80-96 - MY F150'S CHECK ENGINE LIGHT
FTE 80-96 - Changing Trans Fluid - Thank you

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:01:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Alex Wolfe
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Heater and turn signal

Just like to make a comment to the guys with the heater and turn
signals not working in the cold... I discovered the same thing... My
84 F-150 will not allow any electricals to operate unless I turn the
key back ever so slightly in extreme cold. I thought I was the only
one ! Also noticed that right hand turn indicator in cab will not
blink, although the light is blinking and I can hear the relay a'
clickin'. This only occuirs in cold... when it warms up all is fine.
Just kinda stinks when you're making the ignition adjustment in
traffic and you turn off the engine!


Alex
84-F150





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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 07:14:58 -0700
From: Ken Justice
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-150 problem of interest

Hello Chuck,

In reference to your idling problem, I'm wondering if the motor's
computer is not functioning well. The manual for my '96 F-150 mentions
that when a battery is replaced the motor will run rough until the
computer "learns" to adjust the idle, etc.

The manual states that one should allow the motor to idle several
minutes after the installation of the battery or that eventually with
sufficient driving the computer will "adjust itself."

Perhaps this has something to do with this problem?

Regards,

Ken Justice
Discover the Working Mat!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com

"The problem I am left with, however, is now the truck starts and runs
rough. It shakes until it warms up and does not take throttle well even
after warming up. Before this incident it started and ran very
smoothly. Anyone experience the same symptoms after having problems
with a stuck fuel pump relay?" -- Chuck Biggs
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:05:08 PST
From: "Scottie Schmidt"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - sand bags

Hi,
Dad's truck is terrible on wet roads, and even more terrible on roads
with the littlest amount of ice!! Is it true that putting more weight in
bed will help?? I heard that you should NOT add weight to bed because
it is more to stop.

Scottie Schmidt


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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:31:17 -0500
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - sand bags

We are talking about a truck, not a passenger car. I think folks tend to
forget what kind of vehicle they have - that large rectangular area behind
the seat was meant to carry Stuff, not be decoration.

I have found that about of 500 lbs of concrete block in the bed of my F-250
during the winter makes all the difference in the world. The truck was
designed so the it performs best with some load, so you won't upset any
functions by carrying something. (I lay a couple of wood pallets in upside
down and put the block in between the rails - it keeps the block in place,
slightly forward of the axle.) The problem with sandbags is that when they
get wet and freeze, they are useless for traction and almost impossible to
move. And if the bags break, you have a real mess to take care of. Concrete
block is cheap and easily removed when not needed - and you can always use
them for building something!

Mike

At 06:05 AM 1/16/99 PST, Scottie Schmidt wrote:
>Hi,
> Dad's truck is terrible on wet roads, and even more terrible on roads
>with the littlest amount of ice!! Is it true that putting more weight in
>bed will help?? I heard that you should NOT add weight to bed because
>it is more to stop.
>
>Scottie Schmidt
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(msloane att.net)

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:44:09 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - sand bags

Scottie Schmidt wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Dad's truck is terrible on wet roads, and even more terrible on roads
> with the littlest amount of ice!! Is it true that putting more weight in
> bed will help?? I heard that you should NOT add weight to bed because
> it is more to stop.
>
Yeah, true, but if you can't go, then stopping isn't an issue, and if
you're skidding all over the place, then stpping might involve a tree. I
have two five gallon buckets filled with sand at the very back of my
bed, died down. The bed is also full of snow now. Some packed stuff in
the back (shoveled off the driveway) and whatever fel in the front and
middle. Moves away nicely, isn't squrelly on the snow/salt/sluch/ice
that we call roads up here. Whatever you put in there, make sure it's
tied down somehow.
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Andre
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:17:59 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - sand bags

Hey Guys,
How about letting some air out of those tires for better traction.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:39:26 -0600
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel w/cruise

The salvage yard is a good place to start. That's where I got mine.

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From: Steve Randa [mailto:sranda ch-advertising.com]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 5:34 PM
To: FTE 80-96
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel w/cruise


Does anyone know of a steering wheel producer that offers an adapter or
extra assembly for the cruise control.

Steve Randa
'84 F150

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:17:21 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Help me please!

Sorry. It seems that none of us have the 460 or we don't' know the figures.
Try the performance list. There are a lot of guys on that list who have the
larger FE motors and have access to those figures.
Sorry
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab
Wayne's Flareside Page
The Alaskans wrote:
Can somebody tell me the horsepower and torque ratings for a 460 in a 96
F250??????

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:20:04 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - timing chain

In a message dated 1/15/99 8:45:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bgarrett uab.campuscw.net writes:


for a timing chain? >>
Yep. I'd say so.
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab
Wayne's Flareside Page
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:47:47 EST
From: SpyderLv81 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Wheel hop

Ladder bars, or stop being so anal. To many leafs and you will feel every
pebble in te road.

spyder
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:43:38 -0600
From: "Brian J. Babiuk"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ref: Owners Manual

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>
> I have used Haynes for my 92' and it has been absolutely wonderful! I
>picked it up at Advance Auto Parts for around 10 bucks. Hope this helps and
>good luck!

The Chilton Manual has been awesome for my '95.


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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:19:06 -0800
From: Dana Bartholomew
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Help me please!

> Can somebody tell me the horsepower and torque ratings for a 460 in a 96
> F250??????


According to my Ford Bible the 460 produces 245 HP 2000 rpm and 400
ft. lbs. of torque.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:28:18 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Help me please! ('96 460 horsepower)

>Can somebody tell me the horsepower and torque ratings for a 460 in a 96
>F250??????

According to the Ford Commercial Truck sales lit from '96:

245 hp 4000 rpm
400 lbs/ft 2400 rpm

Slightly less (c. 5 lbs/ft) in Kalifornia.

lordjanusz juno.com
'94 F150 (300ci)
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:39:13 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Timing Chain

>wifes f-150 has 190k miles of hauling horses...uh! ain't it about due
>for a timing chain?

You didn't specify which motor your wife's truck has. If it's an inline
6 then there is no timing chain, just gears. Either way, though, it's
probably due. BTW, does anyone know of a good upgrade part for the
timing set in the Big Six?

lordjanusz juno.com
'94 F150 (300ci)
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:28:29 -0200
From: John Thornton
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: HP and TORQUE

The listing formy info is for a 93 model . Here are the numbers I have:
hp: 230 3600 torque: 390ft-lbs 2200 . Hope this is satisfactory.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 01:57:09 -0600 (CST)
From: jsg76 webtv.net (shane griffin)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - MY F150'S CHECK ENGINE LIGHT

HELLO

i've got a 91 f150. sometimes the check engine light comes on but under
no particular set of circumstances that i can tell. what systems does
that light monitor? and i've also noticed when it comes on my gas milage
drops. can anyone help me to understand this? i would appreciate any
suggestions u might have. thanks in advance.

jsg76 webtv.net

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:51:30 -0500
From: Tom Gunby
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Changing Trans Fluid - Thank you

Completed the trans fluid/filter and torque converter fluid change in my
86 F-150 yesterday with the instructions/suggestions I received from....


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