80-96-list-digest Monday, April 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 110



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Proper use of OD
[none]
FTE 80-96 - Re: Throttle Position Sensor
Re: FTE 80-96 - stalls on deceleration
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine miss Help
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel filters
RE: FTE 80-96 - wiring diagrams
FTE 80-96 - Pinging noise
FTE 80-96 - Edelbrock IAS shocks
FTE 80-96 - Lot to learn
FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises
RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
Re: FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises
RE: FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
FTE 80-96 - Please Read
RE: FTE 80-96 - Please Read
RE: FTE 80-96 - Lot to learn
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
Re: FTE 80-96 - Please Read
FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery
Re: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery
Re: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Ford Motorsports Enthusiasts gathering
Re: FTE 80-96 - In-carb fuel fitler leak
Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
FTE 80-96 - Re: Ladder Rack
FTE 80-96 - Re: 1986 351W with 4-barrel
FTE 80-96 - Tranny Coolers

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:51:02 -0500
From: "Chuck"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Proper use of OD

What is the right way to operate the overdrive on an E4OD trans?

Chuck
'92 F150 Flare Side
302 EEC/IV, E4OD, 103k miles
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:28:24 -0700
From: Mark A Duncan
Subject: [none]

To one & all,
The Chiltons Total Car Care books have excellent wiring and
vacuum
diagrams. If aftermarket books don't tickle you (they certainly don't do
much
for me) then try contacting the Automotive Information Clearing House in
La
Mesa, Ca. (619) 447-7200. Factory manuals & sets are usually available
for most Ford trucks. I purchased a set for my 1986 F-350 Crew-cab dually
for $138.00, including the complete Emissions & Diagnostics expandable
hardcover manual. They take credit cards or will ship c.o.d. Worth it?
Absolutely! Hope
this helps.


MAY THE FORDS BE WITH YOU!
(What do you mean my truck doesn't exist?)
mdglider juno.com


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:26:21 -0700
From: johnhfleming juno.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Throttle Position Sensor

Ditto...'86 F150 302. Stutter..Stammer..Die

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:51:55 -0400
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - stalls on deceleration

craig n eggerman wrote:
>
> I've got an 89 EFI that starts and runs fine but it will stall when
> decelerating from highway speed down to a stop. Any clues sd yo what is
> causing this. No check engine light or trouble codes.
>
Likely, though not only, causes would be the speed/distance sensor or
throttle position sensor. Sensors can fail and not set codes. The only
way the computer knows that a sensor is bad is if it gives a totally
bogus reading, and even then, that reading could be legitamte and caused
by a failure elsewhere.

If the reading is off, but not impossible, the computer will assume it's
correct, make changes to the pulse width of the injectors and stall
right out.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:08:57 -0400
From: John DeVincentis
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine miss Help

I have a similar problem on my 92 F150.
It happens every time when the truck is warming up (after about 2-3 miles of
driving).
It reaches a specific temperature and starts missing. It only lasts for a minute or
so; but sometimes (intermittent) it misses here and there....
I thought it might have been the O2 sensor; replaced it, same problem.
I think it might be temperature sensor related. I believe there are 2 temperature
sensors.
I kind of just live with it, but would love to get it fixed.

Any thoughts?

John Dee

Claude King wrote:

> 91 explorer 150K miles, plugs and wires been in for about 20k. First thing in
> the morning it misses for about a minute and you can smell raw gas from the
> exhaust, then it stops and runs fine, when I get to about 65mph a slight miss
> comes and goes. Getting good mileage, rang two cans of injector cleaner through
> with last two tanks full. Is it ignition or injectors, computer show no error
> codes. Do those coil packs go bad?
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:11:21 -0500
From: "Kevin Reed"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel filters

I changed the fuel filter this weekend, and the problem is solved. I have
full power throughout all driving ranges, and seeing as I did a full tune up
(excluding the fuel filter) to try and resolve the problem my truck runs
like new! Thanks to all those who have helped out along the way.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of S Spaulding
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 6:48 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel filters
>
>
> When my 1980 E-350 got to be about 11 or 12 years old, we used to have
> to carry a spare fuel filter at all times. There was so much rust in
> the fuel systems (lines and tanks) that the filter would clog. The
> truck would gradually lose power, and then die. No, it wasn't the fuel
> pump.
>
> Have you opened up one of your filters to see what was in there?
>
> Steve
>
> johnhfleming juno.com wrote:
> >
> > I have an '86 F150 with dual tanks also. I've found that I have
> to change
> > the fuel filter every other oil change (I go 5000 mi between changes)
> > otherwise I start having starting and hesitation problems. I had taken
> > the truck in to Ford for service several times (they charged me mega
> > bucks and claimed that I couldn't change the filter myself because it
> > took special equipment) and they kept telling me to run gas from a
> > better source. I was running Shell, mostly, at the time and tried
> > changing but it made no difference. An "old" mechanic guy said that the
> > filter seems to absorb moisture from the gas and become more and more
> > restricted over a period of time so to just replace the filter more
> > often.
> >
> > John
> >
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:08:27 -0500
From: "Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - wiring diagrams

Actually, Wayne, you should document what you've done and get with Ken Payne
on putting an article on the website--then all you have to do is refer
people to it! I, for one, enjoy hearing about your modifications. Anyone
interested in pumping more out of the 5.0L has a lot to learn from you. For
instance: rebuild your AODE tranny FIRST! :^)

Regards,
Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX


> -----Original Message-----
> From: FLR150 aol.com [mailto:FLR150 aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 10:13 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - wiring diagrams
>
>
> In a message dated 4/15/99 7:22:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Lwskywalk aol.com writes:
>
>
> or comments for 1994 f150 302 >>
> Email me off list as I am sure these guys are tired of
> hearing me spout off
> about my 94 Flareside 5.0L.
> Wayne Foy
> '94 Flareside SC
> "Hazardous Material"
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:17:40 -0500
From: "Anthony Trantham"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Pinging noise

This is kinda bizar. I have a '92 F-250 with a 351; 5-speed. I have this
pinging noise that is driving me up the wall. This past weekend I started
looking into what it might be. To me it didn't seem like the valves. It
doesn't do it when you are going up a slight hill mostly when you change
gears an coasting down a hill. Someone once told me that a EGR value could
cause that. So I unplugged the Green vacum line. Well as I expected the
check engine light came on an it still did it, but when I plugged it back up
it quit. Whats the deal? Any ideas?

Thanks in Advance,
Anthony


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:31:59 EDT
From: Metalsped aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Edelbrock IAS shocks

I am wondering if anyone has ever purchased these and if they liked them or
not. I have some Monroe's that need replacing and these seem to be excellent
shocks. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance

Rich May
1989 Centurion C350
1999 F-250 Super Duty
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:55:45 EDT
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lot to learn

Dave,
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. Yes, I have worked hard and yes I
am FLYING down the track now..I ran a 14.7 pass on Sunday at Fun Ford 88
mph. I weighed my truck there this weekend, me, truck, toolbox(empty except
for nice go fast bottle), 3/4 tank gas= 5050 lb.. BIG SOB to be going that
quick huh? Well I'll have to go back and document part numbers and such and
write up a little blurb for the webpage I am STILL building..this one is
going to be a doosey folks....=). Maybe I'll get in touch with Ken and see
what he says. I might just buy a 351 and drop the present motor in a
stang....If you have never been to a Fun Ford Event to see those stangs
fly...you do not know what you are missing. I have the schedule here and
locations if anyone wants them. I am also going to try to run the Montgomery,
AL, Gainesville, FL, and Bristol, TN events to get that damn trophy...I'll
not miss qualifying this time.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"(13's next? Look out Lightnings-older model course)
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:09:20 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

Need help,
I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died on
me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So after
looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple of
plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped (with
known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs still
the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out something
obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really need
to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in advance

Eric
89 F150 4.9L XLT Lariat 4x4 4sp

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:33:28 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

Eric Sneed wrote:
>
> Need help,
> I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died on
> me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So after
> looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple of
> plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped (with
> known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs still
> the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out something
> obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really need
> to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in advance

Ignition Module? Don't know if your module is on the firewall or not
that year but earlier modules were notorious for going bad. Truck would
run great until it was warm for awhile and then die. Then after it
cools off it starts up again miraculously. In any case, are you getting
spark?

- --

Chris Hedemark
Work: IBM eNetwork Dispatcher
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:32:09 -0400
From: Bruce Ramirez
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

I had the same problem with my 88 E-250 4.9L. I had a bad TFI Module in
the distributor. While driving, the engine just died. Check to see if
you have spark. If not, replace the module in the distributor.

I replace the module, but my van only lasted another 30 minutes. Three
kids in a stolen Caddy doing 60 mph, broad sided me within 30 minutes of
getting it back running.

Bruce Ramirez
1991 F-150 4x4 4.9L XLT Lariat

Eric Sneed wrote:
>
> Need help,
> I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died on
> me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So after
> looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple of
> plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped (with
> known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs still
> the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out something
> obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really need
> to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in advance
>
> Eric
> 89 F150 4.9L XLT Lariat 4x4 4sp
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:37:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Victor L Moran
Subject: FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises

I am almost done fixing up a 87 aerostar. I only have a 3 things to fix.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
1. On cold days, my van makes a squealing noise, sounds like its a belt.
It changes pitch with the speed of the engine. When I am accelerating, it
does not happen. If I idle or coast it occurs. It started after I got
the alternator replaced.

2. I have fixed all the leaks this engine had (4) except one. The power
steering system is leaking fluid. I had the pump changed during the past
summer because it just was not working and I didn't want to ruin the rack.
Ever since it was put in the car makes a loud noise (the one that
happens if there is no fluid in the pump) when I turn and do not take my
foot off the gas. The rack is dry and the metal lines are dry. The pump
has some fluid below it so I guess its from some connection to the pump
but I do not understand what would cause the noise. Is it a return hose?
Are one of the belts bad-ly adjusted.

3. The fuel pump is making a lot of noise. (I think the fuel pump is in
my tank. If not then some other pump is making noise that can be clearly
heard through the floor under the back seat) Do fuel pumps always make
so much noise that they can be heard through the floor, with the engine
on? If not please give me some hints on how to figure out what's wrong.
I'm trying to figure my gas milage to use that as a tool also. If anyone
has a good trick to measuring milage please post.

Thanks.
Victor.

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:36:37 -0500
From: "Kevin Reed"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

There are only three things that will make an engine not run. Air, Fuel,
and Spark. You've checked for gas, but are you sure that it's not flooded?
To check for air, just make sure there are no restrictions in the air intake
system (air filter, throttle body, etc.) To check for spark, pull off the
wire that runs from your distributor to your coil (leave the coil end
attached), put the wire next to something negative, yet still visible.
E.g.. your engine block. Next have a buddy crank over the engine and watch
for the spark. There should be a very visible spark jumping from the coil
wire to your block. If not, then spark is what you are lacking.

Note: just rest the wire close to the block. Don't hold on to it! 40,000
Volts really feels funny flowing through you (trust me!).

Let me know how it goes!

Kevin Reed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Eric Sneed
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:09 AM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
>
>
> Need help,
> I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died on
> me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So after
> looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple of
> plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped (with
> known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs still
> the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out something
> obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really need
> to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in advance
>
> Eric
> 89 F150 4.9L XLT Lariat 4x4 4sp
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:43:31 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

TFI Module? would this be the same as the ICM(ignition control Module)
wich is mounted on the distributor?

Thanks
Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Bruce Ramirez [SMTP:barr erols.com]
> Sent:Monday, April 19, 1999 9:32 AM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
>
> I had the same problem with my 88 E-250 4.9L. I had a bad TFI Module
> in
> the distributor. While driving, the engine just died. Check to see if
> you have spark. If not, replace the module in the distributor.
>
> I replace the module, but my van only lasted another 30 minutes. Three
> kids in a stolen Caddy doing 60 mph, broad sided me within 30 minutes
> of
> getting it back running.
>
> Bruce Ramirez
> 1991 F-150 4x4 4.9L XLT Lariat
>
> Eric Sneed wrote:
> >
> > Need help,
> > I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died
> on
> > me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So
> after
> > looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple
> of
> > plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped
> (with
> > known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs
> still
> > the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out
> something
> > obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> > main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really
> need
> > to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in
> advance
> >
> > Eric
> > 89 F150 4.9L XLT Lariat 4x4 4sp
> >
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:49:20 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

I have limited Knowledge of electrical systems, However I will check to
see if i have spark from the coil? Either condition any ideas on what
would be causing this issue?

Thanks
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Chris Hedemark [SMTP:hedemark raleigh.ibm.com]
> Sent:Monday, April 19, 1999 9:33 AM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
>
> Eric Sneed wrote:
> >
> > Need help,
> > I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died
> on
> > me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So
> after
> > looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple
> of
> > plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped
> (with
> > known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs
> still
> > the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out
> something
> > obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> > main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really
> need
> > to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in
> advance
>
> Ignition Module? Don't know if your module is on the firewall or not
> that year but earlier modules were notorious for going bad. Truck
> would
> run great until it was warm for awhile and then die. Then after it
> cools off it starts up again miraculously. In any case, are you
> getting
> spark?
>
> --
>
> Chris Hedemark
> Work: IBM eNetwork Dispatcher
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.software.ibm.com/enetwork/dispatcher
> Personal: Yonder Way http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
> "Earl Svein! thou now wilt know
> That our lads can make blood flow --
> That the Hedemarkers hale
> Can do more than tap good ale." - Saga of Olaf Haraldson: Part II
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:53:59 -0400
From: Bruce Ramirez
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

YES

Eric Sneed wrote:
>
> TFI Module? would this be the same as the ICM(ignition control Module)
> wich is mounted on the distributor?
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Ramirez [SMTP:barr erols.com]
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 9:32 AM
> > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
> >
> > I had the same problem with my 88 E-250 4.9L. I had a bad TFI Module
> > in
> > the distributor. While driving, the engine just died. Check to see if
> > you have spark. If not, replace the module in the distributor.
> >
> > I replace the module, but my van only lasted another 30 minutes. Three
> > kids in a stolen Caddy doing 60 mph, broad sided me within 30 minutes
> > of
> > getting it back running.
> >
> > Bruce Ramirez
> > 1991 F-150 4x4 4.9L XLT Lariat
> >
> > Eric Sneed wrote:
> > >
> > > Need help,
> > > I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died
> > on
> > > me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So
> > after
> > > looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple
> > of
> > > plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped
> > (with
> > > known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs
> > still
> > > the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out
> > something
> > > obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> > > main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really
> > need
> > > to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in
> > advance
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > 89 F150 4.9L XLT Lariat 4x4 4sp
> > >
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:53:06 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

Thanks for the advise I will check that tonight, The truck is fuel
injected and I had left it overnight and it still wouldn't start, so I
dont think that it is flooded(but I could be wrong).

Thanks

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Kevin Reed [SMTP:kreed ICAN.NET]
> Sent:Monday, April 19, 1999 10:37 AM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
>
> There are only three things that will make an engine not run. Air,
> Fuel,
> and Spark. You've checked for gas, but are you sure that it's not
> flooded?
> To check for air, just make sure there are no restrictions in the air
> intake
> system (air filter, throttle body, etc.) To check for spark, pull off
> the
> wire that runs from your distributor to your coil (leave the coil end
> attached), put the wire next to something negative, yet still visible.
> E.g.. your engine block. Next have a buddy crank over the engine and
> watch
> for the spark. There should be a very visible spark jumping from the
> coil
> wire to your block. If not, then spark is what you are lacking.
>
> Note: just rest the wire close to the block. Don't hold on to it!
> 40,000
> Volts really feels funny flowing through you (trust me!).
>
> Let me know how it goes!
>
> Kevin Reed.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Eric Sneed
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:09 AM
> > To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> > Subject: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
> >
> >
> > Need help,
> > I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died
> on
> > me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So
> after
> > looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple
> of
> > plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped
> (with
> > known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs
> still
> > the truck wont start. i am hoping that someone will point out
> something
> > obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> > main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really
> need
> > to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in
> advance
> >
> > Eric
> > 89 F150 4.9L XLT Lariat 4x4 4sp
> >
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:59:49 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises

Victor L Moran wrote:

> I am almost done fixing up a 87 aerostar. I only have a 3 things to fix.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 1. On cold days, my van makes a squealing noise, sounds like its a belt.
> It changes pitch with the speed of the engine. When I am accelerating, it
> does not happen. If I idle or coast it occurs. It started after I got
> the alternator replaced.

I think you answered your own question here (slipping belt)

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:07:37 -0500
From: "Kevin Reed"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises

1. Ford p/s pumps always make noise, even with fluid!

2. Check your belts for wear & tension, also a bad fan clutch will do the
same.

3. Ford fuel pumps are known for being noisy when they get old. It might
mean it's on it's way out. The noise can get louder if you have a clogged
fuel filter (It's a good Idea to change it any way.), or if you have a rusty
tank, there is a filter bag that attaches to the pump which can get clogged
as well. My advice would be to change the out of tank filter and if it
doesn't do anything just wait till the pump goes, that way you get your
money's worth!





> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Victor L Moran
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:37 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - aerostar noises
>
>
> I am almost done fixing up a 87 aerostar. I only have a 3 things to fix.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 1. On cold days, my van makes a squealing noise, sounds like its a belt.
> It changes pitch with the speed of the engine. When I am accelerating, it
> does not happen. If I idle or coast it occurs. It started after I got
> the alternator replaced.
>
> 2. I have fixed all the leaks this engine had (4) except one. The power
> steering system is leaking fluid. I had the pump changed during the past
> summer because it just was not working and I didn't want to ruin the rack.
> Ever since it was put in the car makes a loud noise (the one that
> happens if there is no fluid in the pump) when I turn and do not take my
> foot off the gas. The rack is dry and the metal lines are dry. The pump
> has some fluid below it so I guess its from some connection to the pump
> but I do not understand what would cause the noise. Is it a return hose?
> Are one of the belts bad-ly adjusted.
>
> 3. The fuel pump is making a lot of noise. (I think the fuel pump is in
> my tank. If not then some other pump is making noise that can be clearly
> heard through the floor under the back seat) Do fuel pumps always make
> so much noise that they can be heard through the floor, with the engine
> on? If not please give me some hints on how to figure out what's wrong.
> I'm trying to figure my gas milage to use that as a tool also. If anyone
> has a good trick to measuring milage please post.
>
> Thanks.
> Victor.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:15:29 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

Eric Sneed wrote:
>
> I have limited Knowledge of electrical systems, However I will check to
> see if i have spark from the coil? Either condition any ideas on what
> would be causing this issue?

Not from the coil, directly, but at the plug wires. There was another
post in this thread describing how to do it.

Someone else mentioned that in your year, the module is located within
the distributor. I know Ford moved many of their vehicles to this
system in the late 80's but wasn't sure if the truck made it there yet.

In any case, if you aren't getting spark to the wires, and you did
replace all the other parts mentioned, the symptoms are consistent with
a failed module.

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:19:03 -0500
From: "Kevin Reed"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

Start with the simple! Check your fuse box, then check your connections. I
once had a car die on me, and when I checked the wires going to the coil,
they fell out, completely corroded!

Next check your computer codes, they might have some info for you.

It could be your Ignition Control Module (you'd need a manual, or a really
knowledgeable person on this list to tell you how to check it (that I'd like
to know too!))

It could be a broken timing chain, in which case your distributor wouldn't
turn. Try cranking it over with the cap off (coil disconnected) and see
that the rotor spins.

Worst case scenario it could be your ECU, but checking for codes should tell
you that.

Good Luck

Kevin Reed.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Eric Sneed
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:49 AM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
>
>
> I have limited Knowledge of electrical systems, However I will check to
> see if I have spark from the coil? Either condition any ideas on what
> would be causing this issue?
>
> Thanks
> Eric
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:Chris Hedemark [SMTP:hedemark raleigh.ibm.com]
> > Sent:Monday, April 19, 1999 9:33 AM
> > To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject:Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
> >
> > Eric Sneed wrote:
> > >
> > > Need help,
> > > I was driving the other day and all of sudden the truck just died
> > on
> > > me, It will turn over without a problem but just wont start. So
> > after
> > > looking for any obvious loose wires or connection I Pulled a couple
> > of
> > > plugs and I am getting gas, So then I either replaced or swapped
> > (with
> > > known good parts)the following items, coil,cap,rotor, wires,plugs
> > still
> > > the truck wont start. I am hoping that someone will point out
> > something
> > > obvious that I have overlooked(usually the case with me). This is my
> > > main source of transportation to and from work/School. So I really
> > need
> > > to get this resolved this evening if at all possible. Thanks in
> > advance
> >
> > Ignition Module? Don't know if your module is on the firewall or not
> > that year but earlier modules were notorious for going bad. Truck
> > would
> > run great until it was warm for awhile and then die. Then after it
> > cools off it starts up again miraculously. In any case, are you
> > getting
> > spark?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chris Hedemark
> > Work: IBM eNetwork Dispatcher
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> > "Earl Svein! thou now wilt know
> > That our lads can make blood flow --
> > That the Hedemarkers hale
> > Can do more than tap good ale." - Saga of Olaf Haraldson: Part II
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:26:28 -0400
From: Bruce Ramirez
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

There is no timing chain on a 4.9L. There are timing gears.

Kevin Reed wrote:

>
> It could be a broken timing chain,
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:50:07 -0700
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

I called the local ford parts department, and they said that the TFI
module on these vehicles are notorious for going out. They also
mentioned that I should Replace the Stator(magnetic pickup)that is
inside the distributor and connects to the TFI Module. Seems like it is
always the expensive parts that are "notorious" for going bad. Ford
wants $109.34 for the TFI module and $49.94 for the stator, compare to
Pep Boys $62.99 and $34.95 for the same parts. any reason to stay away
from the non ford parts?

I have been in the background of this group for about two years now and
have had few questions, mostly just reading and learning from the
members. This is without a doubt the most helpful bunch of guys and
ladies that I have ever dealt with

Thanks allot!!

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Chris Hedemark [SMTP:hedemark raleigh.ibm.com]
> Sent:Monday, April 19, 1999 10:15 AM
> To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start
>
> Eric Sneed wrote:
> >
> > I have limited Knowledge of electrical systems, However I will check
> to
> > see if i have spark from the coil? Either condition any ideas on
> what
> > would be causing this issue?
>
> Not from the coil, directly, but at the plug wires. There was another
> post in this thread describing how to do it.
>
> Someone else mentioned that in your year, the module is located within
> the distributor. I know Ford moved many of their vehicles to this
> system in the late 80's but wasn't sure if the truck made it there
> yet.
>
> In any case, if you aren't getting spark to the wires, and you did
> replace all the other parts mentioned, the symptoms are consistent
> with
> a failed module.
>
> --
>
> Chris Hedemark
> Work: IBM eNetwork Dispatcher
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> That our lads can make blood flow --
> That the Hedemarkers hale
> Can do more than tap good ale." - Saga of Olaf Haraldson: Part II
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:02:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jack TheDog
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Please Read

Greetings,
I have a 1979 F350 4x4 I am trying to get rid of. It seems the motor
is shot. Anyway, it's got Dana 60 front and rear, C6 trans and other
select goodies. Any recommendations on how I should try and sell this
stuff off.
Thanks,
Jack




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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:27:59 -0500
From: "Kevin Reed"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Please Read

Put an ad in the paper "buy DANA front and rear ends, and get a 1979 F350
for FREE!"



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Jack TheDog
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:03 PM
> To: ford truck
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Please Read
>
>
> Greetings,
> I have a 1979 F350 4x4 I am trying to get rid of. It seems the motor
> is shot. Anyway, it's got Dana 60 front and rear, C6 trans and other
> select goodies. Any recommendations on how I should try and sell this
> stuff off.
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:34:33 -0500
From: "Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Lot to learn

Wayne,

Was this on or off the laughing gas? Either way, that's very quick to be
pulling around that much weight.

Dave.

> -----Original Message-----
> ..I ran a 14.7 pass on Sunday at
> Fun Ford 88 mph. I weighed my truck there this weekend, me, truck,
> toolbox(empty except for nice go fast bottle), 3/4 tank gas= 5050 lb..
> Later
> Wayne Foy
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:35:29 -0400
From: Bruce Ramirez
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

> It could be your Ignition Control Module (you'd need a manual, or a really
> knowledgeable person on this list to tell you how to check it (that I'd like
> to know too!))

TROUBLESHOOTING THE TFI-IV IGNITION SYSTEM

Ignition Coil Secondary Voltage

1. Disconnect the secondary (high voltage) coil wire from the
distributor cap and install a spark plug tester between the coil wire
and ground.
2. Crank the engine. If spark is noted, but the engine will not start,
check the spark plug wiring, and fuel system. If there is no spark at
the tester: Check the ignition coil secondary wire resistance; it should
be no more than 5,000 ohms per foot. Inspect the ignition coil for
damage and/or carbon tracking. With the distributor cap removed, verify
that the distributor shaft turns with the engine; if it does not, repair
the engine as required. If the fault was not found proceed to the next
test.

Ignition Coil Primary Circuit Switching

1. Insert a small straight pin in the wire which runs from the coil
negative(-) terminal to the TFI module, about 1" from the module.

WARNING!!! THE PIN MUST NOT TOUCH GROUND!!!

2. Connect a 12 VDC test lamp between the straight pin and the engine
ground.
3. Crank the engine, noting the operation of the test lamp. If the test
lamp flashed, proceed to the Wiring Harness Test. If the Test lamp does
not light at all, proceed to the Primary Circuit Continuity Test.

Wiring Harness

1. Disconnect the wiring harness connector from the TFI module; the
connecter tabs must be PUSHED to disengage the connector. Inspect the
connector for damage, dirt, and corrosion.
2. Attach the negative lead of a voltmeter to the base of the
distributor. Attach the other voltmeter lead to a small straight pin.
With the ignition switch in the RUN position, insert the straight pin
into the No.1 terminal of the TFI module connector. Note the voltage
reading. With the ignition switch in the RUN position, move the straight
pin to the No.2 connector terminal. Again, note the voltage reading.
Move the straight pin to the No.3 connector terminal, then turn the
ignition switch to START position. Note the voltage reading then turn
the ignition OFF.
3. The voltage reading should all be at least 90% of the available
battery voltage. If the readings are okay, proceed to the Stator
Assembly and Module Test. If any reading is less than 90% of the battery
voltage, inspect the wiring, connectors. and/or ignition switch for
defects. If the voltage is low only at the No.1 terminal connector,
proceed to the Ignition Coil Primary Voltage Test.

Stator Assembly and Module

1. Remove the distributor from the engine.
2. Remove the TFI module from the distributor.
3. Inspect the distributor terminals, ground screw, and stator wiring
for damage. Repair as necessary.
4. Measure the resistance of the stator assembly, using an ohmmeter. If
the ohmmeter reading is 800-975 ohms, the stator is okay, but the TFI
module must be replaced. If the ohmmeter reading is less than 800 ohms
of more than 975 ohms; the TFI module is okay, but the stator module
must be replaced.
5. Repair as necessary and install the TFI module and the distributor.

TFI Module

1. Remove the distributor cap from the distributor, and set it aside
(spark plug wires intact).
2. Disconnect the TFI harness connector.
3. Remove the distributor.
4. Remove the two TFI module retaining screws.
5. To disengage the modules terminals from the distributor base
connector, pull the right side of the module down the distributor
mounting flange and then back up. Carefully pull the module toward the
flange and away from the distributor.

WARNING!!! STEP 5 MUST BE FOLLOWED EXACTLY; FAILURE TO DO SO WILL RESULT
IN DAMAGE TO THE DISTRIBUTOR MODULE CONNECTOR PINS.

6. Coat the TFI module base plate with a thin layer od silicone grease.
7. Place the TFI module on the distributor base mounting flange.
Position the module assembly towards the distributor bowl and carefully
engage the distributor connector pins. Install and torque the two TFI
module screws to 9-16 inch lbs.
8. Install the distributor assembly.
9. Install the distributor cap and check the engine timing.

Primary Circuit Continuity

This test is performed in the same manner as the previous Wiring Harness
Test, but only the No.1 terminal connector is tested ( ignition switch
in RUN position). If the voltage is less than 90% of the available
battery voltage, proceed to the Coil Primary Voltage Test.

Ignition Coil Primary Voltage Test

1. Attach the negative lead of a voltmeter to the distributor base.
2. Turn the ignition switch ON and connect the positive voltmeter lead
to the negative (-) ignition coil terminal. Note the voltage reading and
turn the ignition OFF. If the voltmeter reading is less than 90% of the
available battery voltage, inspect the wiring between the ignition
module and the negative(-) coil terminal, then proceed to the last test,
which follows.

Ignition Coil Supply Voltage

1. Attach the negative lead of a voltmeter to the distributor base.
2. Turn the ignition switch ON and connect the positive voltmeter lead
to the positive (+) ignition coil terminal. Note the voltage reading
then turn the ignition OFF. If the voltage is at least 90% of the
battery voltage, yet the engine will still not run; first check the
ignition coil connector and terminals for corrosion, dirt, and/or
damage; second, replace the ignition switch if the connector and
terminals are okay.
3. Connect the remaining wiring.

Bruce Ramirez
1991 F-150 4x4 4.9L XLT Lariat
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:41:49 -0400
From: Chris Hedemark
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Please Read

Jack TheDog wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> I have a 1979 F350 4x4 I am trying to get rid of. It seems the motor
> is shot. Anyway, it's got Dana 60 front and rear, C6 trans and other
> select goodies. Any recommendations on how I should try and sell this
> stuff off.

Where are you located?

How is the interior?

Do you know if the bed is compatible with a 1987 truck (if you have a
dually then nevermind)? How about the seats? Also need the full spare
tire getup (rim & tire, all the stuff to hang it under the bed, etc)

If anyone here is in the vicinity of Durham, NC and wants to get rid of
said stuff, please let me know.

Thanks,
Chris

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That our lads can make blood flow --
That the Hedemarkers hale
Can do more than tap good ale." - Saga of Olaf Haraldson: Part II
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:55:50 -0500
From: "Runte, Robert"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery

Hi -

Someone has probably asked this already, but I hope you will consider my
question anyway.

I have a '95 E150 conversion van that I bought used. The vehicle has a dual
battery system on it. The primary battery operates general vehicle
electrical function such as starter etc. The auxiliary battery runs the
cabin functions, reading lamps, mood lighting and TV. As far as I know
the charging system and wiring is all factory original equipment.

The aux battery is not receiving a charge. I have replaced the original aux
battery as it tested bad. I also replaced the aux battery solenoid that
sits under the main battery tray. It is still not charging. From here, I
am lost.

I have contacted several dealers and the common answer is that they have no
experience in this environment, but they will charge $70.00 an hour to look
into the problem.

Any ideas as to what may be causing the problem? Also, any description of
the 'mechanics' of how the system knows to start charging the aux battery
would be appreciated.

Regards -

Bob
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:32:15 -0700
From: "Mike"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery

With the key off check both sides of aux solenoid, should be hot. If not
trace lead back to the battery on the dead side for bad of lose connection.
A 12 test light or volt meter will work.

Take the small wire off the solenoid, turn the key on. Check that wire make
sure it hot. If not look for inline fuse or bad circuit from key switch.


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From: Runte, Robert
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:58 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery


>Hi -
>
>Someone has probably asked this already, but I hope you will consider my
>question anyway.
>
>I have a '95 E150 conversion van that I bought used. The vehicle has a
dual
>battery system on it. The primary battery operates general vehicle
>electrical function such as starter etc. The auxiliary battery runs the
>cabin functions, reading lamps, mood lighting and TV. As far as I know
>the charging system and wiring is all factory original equipment.
>
>The aux battery is not receiving a charge. I have replaced the original
aux
>battery as it tested bad. I also replaced the aux battery solenoid that
>sits under the main battery tray. It is still not charging. From here, I
>am lost.
>
>I have contacted several dealers and the common answer is that they have no
>experience in this environment, but they will charge $70.00 an hour to
look
>into the problem.
>
>Any ideas as to what may be causing the problem? Also, any description
of
>the 'mechanics' of how the system knows to start charging the aux battery
>would be appreciated.
>
>Regards -
>
>Bob
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:44:08 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery

Check to see if you have a battery isolator. Most RVs with dual batteries
have one. It allows you to run down your house battery without affecting
the vehicle battery (you can start up the van) The isolator is in the
charging line coming off the alternator. One lead comes from the alternator
(usually the middle) with two other leads going to each battery. If a
battery goes bad and shorts it can take out that side of the islolator with
it. There also may be a fuse or a fusible link in the line leading from the
isolator to the battery.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Runte, Robert
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 3:06 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 E150 Aux Battery


>Hi -
>
>Someone has probably asked this already, but I hope you will consider my
>question anyway.
>
>I have a '95 E150 conversion van that I bought used. The vehicle has a
dual
>battery system on it. The primary battery operates general vehicle
>electrical function such as starter etc. The auxiliary battery runs the
>cabin functions, reading lamps, mood lighting and TV. As far as I know
>the charging system and wiring is all factory original equipment.
>
>The aux battery is not receiving a charge. I have replaced the original
aux
>battery as it tested bad. I also replaced the aux battery solenoid that
>sits under the main battery tray. It is still not charging. From here, I
>am lost.
>
>I have contacted several dealers and the common answer is that they have no
>experience in this environment, but they will charge $70.00 an hour to
look
>into the problem.
>
>Any ideas as to what may be causing the problem? Also, any description
of
>the 'mechanics' of how the system knows to start charging the aux battery
>would be appreciated.
>
>Regards -
>
>Bob
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:41:28 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Ford Motorsports Enthusiasts gathering

This is a reminder to those who said they plan on attending the
Ford Motorsports Enthusiasts event at Ford's world headquarters
(Dearborn).

The event will be this Thursday. If you lost the directions and
schedule (or never had them), email me privately
(kpayne ford-trucks.com) and I'll send them. Wear your Ford
Truck Enthusiasts t-shirt to show everyone who you represent. There
should be several clubs there and its a great chance to meet others
and see what Ford has planned.

I'll be flying there for the day (Peggy can't make it) and I
look forward to meeting some of you!

Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:16:10 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - In-carb fuel fitler leak

try getting the teflon tape and putting that on it or the teflon stick stuff
and that should seal it and prevent it from loosening
We do that with the recurring loosening fuel lines on the Clark forklifts at
work
Bob
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:22:37 EDT
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck won't start

is your truck equipped with a brain mounted on the fender wells? that could
do it no spark
Bob
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:43:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Casey Vandor
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Ladder Rack

If you check out my homepage you can *kinda* see my old ladder rack.
We used scrap 1" angle iron and 1 1/2 steel tubes. This was scrap from
the boat, so cost wasn't an issue. Use the tubing for the three
*really technical definition here* "upside u braces", and then the
angle iron to tie them together front to back. It works well with a
piece of 1 1/8 T+G on top so you can get a forlift to set stuff up
there, rather than get hung up like most other ladder racks. Also
notice that it angles slightly upward towards the cab so that when you
have 20 footers on there, they don't ride the cab. You could make a
beefier rack and cover the cab, but we didn't bother with it.

My truck is at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/CaseyV/
I am using frames (learning) so I don't know how to address it
directly, hit "my links" and then a link called "my truck"

Casey Vandor
83 F-250 4X4 running for almost two weeks straight now!!
75 W-200 4X2 hasn't been dead yet.... No flames intended.


_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:43:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Casey Vandor
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1986 351W with 4-barrel

Can't help with your problem, sorry... I am curious as to what you are
running for a manifold and ignition system. I am trying to figure out
how to swap my EEC III out, but not sure where to begin. I have looked
at the holly 4160 carb and the weiand stealth manifold (non egr) but
then I am still looking at a new ignition system.

Thanks as usual.......
Casey Vandor
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/CaseyV/....


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