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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6
FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether
Re: FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96FTE- Which Trans?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether
FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco
Re: FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco
Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6
Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6
Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6
FTE 80-96 - Torque converters
Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco
FTE 80-96 - RE: Plug Wires for my 92 F-150
FTE 80-96 - RE: Gas gauge trouble.
FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel w/cruise
FTE 80-96 - AM-FM Stereo w/o cassette
FTE 80-96 - Help me please!
Re: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether
FTE 80-96 - Rim on an 91' F-250
RE: FTE 80-96 - AM-FM Stereo w/o cassette
FTE 80-96 - timing chain
Re: FTE 80-96 - timing chain
Re: FTE 80-96 - timing chain
FTE 80-96 - Wheel hop
FTE 80-96 - E4OD
FTE 80-96 - cam selection
FTE 80-96 - RE: Rocker arm torque

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:34:41 -0600
From: "Moses O. McKnight"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6

Hi,

There's an o-ring to keep it from leaking and you have to pull the shaft to
replace it.
It's not too hard but will take a little time. To pull the shaft you will
need to remove the pan and then remove the valve body. Then remove the nut
holding the kickdown lever to the kickdown shaft, and then the nut on the back
side of the shift lever (inside the tran.). Then you can pull the shift lever
out and the kickdown shaft out from the inside.
When replacing the valve body, make sure you get the shift lever back in the
slot on the valve shaft. Also make sure that you get the kickdown lever placed
properly so it pushes in the kickdown valve. There is a stop behind the
kickdown valve to keep it from going back too far and when I put one together a
while back I put the lever behind the stop instead of between the stop and the
lever and had to redo it.

Moses McKnight

Andre Roy wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> The C6 (at least I think it's a C6) in my 81 F150, 300 CID is leaking
> right around the shift shaft. You know, the shaft that the linkage
> attaches to to tell the transmission to go into Park, Neutral, Drive,
> "R" for race ;-) etc.
>
> I'm guessing it's just a O-ring or something similar sealing it. Is this
> an easy fix or should I just keep dumping transmission fluid into it
> every now and then. Well, I _am_ going to keep dumpung T-fluid in for
> now, expected high of -25C, I ain't crawling under the truck to fix it.
> :-/
>
> It's been doing it for a while, a long while according to my
> father-in-law who gave me the truck, and it's still working, so it's not
> a life-or-death kind of thing. Just curious as to what I might have in
> store for me when (if?) it finally warms up.
>
> TIA
>
> --
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:49:08 -0600
From: Chuck Biggs
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest

While I read this list daily I have not posted for quite a while now.

On Tuesday I awoke to find my 90 F-150 dead as a doornail. I
immediately suspected the battery and after charging the battery,
returned it to be checked. It checked bad and was replaced. I drove it
directly home and the vehicle was not started until Wednesday morning.
The battery was dead as a doornail again. I charged it and returned it
again to make sure they did not put in another bad battery (which has
happened to me before.) The tech said there was a load on the battery
with the key off and he heard a noise from under the truck. I listened
and it sounded like the fuel pump was running with the key off. I
thanked him and took the vehicle home, located the fuel pump relay
mounted on the air cleaner housing and rapped it with a screw driver and
the pump stopped. Just to be sure I replaced the relay and the problem
seems to have gone away.

The problem I am left with, however, is now the truck starts and runs
rough. It shakes until it warms up and does not take throttle well even
after warming up. Before this incident it started and ran very
smoothly. Anyone experience the same symptoms after having problems
with a stuck fuel pump relay?

Thanks in advance for any comments.

Chuck Biggs
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:31:58 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether

AeroAce13 aol.com wrote:

> it warm up for about 5 - 7 min and shut it off and restart it the heater and
> turn signal work again.

Ace,
Could you give a little clarification here. Do you mean that
the blower won't begin to start until 5-7 min after you start it
even with the blower switch on, or do you mean the blower
does blow right away but simply blows out cold air ?

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:09:41 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest

Yes the relay could do that.. Ford had a problem with a defective relay, and
they recalled the item.. Trust me..i went through the same problem.. the "new"
relay could also be bad or there could be gunk on the contacts.. clean them
and replace the relay ( i would tell the auto parts place where you got the
new relay it was defective and make them switch it out).. but frankly i would
get a Ford part, and eat the aftermarket one you probably got.. i can tell you
horror stories with aftermarket ignition pieces..(Kem modules never seem to
work for me)
Anyway see if that works and get back to us..
Bob
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:37:14 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96FTE- Which Trans?

Strange. My parents had an '87 Aerostar and put 230,000 miles on it
before giving it to my uncle for his son to beat on. It still ran great and
never needed any major work.

- -Mike

- -----Original Message-----
From: MITCH HALL
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96FTE- Which Trans?


i've had some experiance with different years of arestars. anything
prior to 91 the tranny are just plain junk ford put three different
trannies in the 91's and they found a good one that they still use. my
93 has 100k on it and still going strong ,my brother and dad had a 87
and 85 both had problems my brother has a 91 and it's got one of the bad
trannies and has had problems ever sence buying it
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:45:20 -0600
From: GTH
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether

my .02:
even in the tropical (15 degree at worst) south my '89 with the new [11
month old] key cylinder will be "harder" to turn to the start position
when it is cold. I haven't noticed the accessories not working (actually
when it is real bad the starter turns over, and then everything dies
unless you twist the key back slightly)......but then I too have the gas
gauge sender that goes from pegged far right to dead dry non stop (but
only on one tank thank god ;-}) and a ill repaired 5 speed that
registers 20% slow on the speedo.
All those "little things" that I have put off to fix when I get around
toit.

But it starts/runs and gets me 200 miles one way to work!

G Hester
Jackson MS



Rick Wojciechowski wrote:
>
> AeroAce13 aol.com wrote:
>
> > it warm up for about 5 - 7 min and shut it off and restart it the heater and
> > turn signal work again.
>
> Ace,
> Could you give a little clarification here. Do you mean that
> the blower won't begin to start until 5-7 min after you start it
> even with the blower switch on, or do you mean the blower
> does blow right away but simply blows out cold air ?
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Rick Wojo
> '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
> '92 Mstng 5.0L
> '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-) :-))
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:19:44 -0500
From: "Doug McGuinn"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether

About the ignition switch being stiff in cold weather. Sometimes when it was
real cold (around zero) my switch wouldn't "snap" back after I started my
truck and the starter would keep on turning (I hate that sound, not to
mention that it's not good for the starter). I would have to pull the switch
back with my hand. Solved the problem by squirting a little bit of graphite
inside the switch.
- -----Original Message-----
From: GTH
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether


>my .02:
>even in the tropical (15 degree at worst) south my '89 with the new [11
>month old] key cylinder will be "harder" to turn to the start position
>when it is cold. I haven't noticed the accessories not working (actually
>when it is real bad the starter turns over, and then everything dies
>unless you twist the key back slightly)......but then I too have the gas
>gauge sender that goes from pegged far right to dead dry non stop (but
>only on one tank thank god ;-}) and a ill repaired 5 speed that
>registers 20% slow on the speedo.
>All those "little things" that I have put off to fix when I get around
>toit.
>
>But it starts/runs and gets me 200 miles one way to work!
>
>G Hester
>Jackson MS
>
>
>
>Rick Wojciechowski wrote:
>>
>> AeroAce13 aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > it warm up for about 5 - 7 min and shut it off and restart it the
heater and
>> > turn signal work again.
>>
>> Ace,
>> Could you give a little clarification here. Do you mean that
>> the blower won't begin to start until 5-7 min after you start it
>> even with the blower switch on, or do you mean the blower
>> does blow right away but simply blows out cold air ?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Rick Wojo
>> '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
>> '92 Mstng 5.0L
>> '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-)
:-))
>>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:59:35 -0800
From: spencer stromberglaw.com (Spencer)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco

Hey Guys -

I didn't get any responses to my first try with this - here goes again. I
have an '85 Bronco (Full-sized of course) Eddie Bauer, 351 (new 1 yr. ago),
3-spd AT. I just bought it a couple months ago. It has 33" tires, and I
think the size of the tires has effectively changed the gear ratios and
reduced the rig's available power. It seems a little sluggish from a stop,
and shifts a lot at highway speeds (50-60 mph). I know it has had some
effect because the odometer is off by about 10% (the number of miles it
shows is about 90% of the actual miles I drive). Any thoughts you have on
fixing this will be appreciated - but I'm not putting on smaller tires :).

Spencer Stromberg
Spokane, WA

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:22:48 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest

It'll take the EEC-IV a little while to relearn everything. With the
battery draining right down like that, the computer memory would have been
blanked. Just drive the truck for a while, it should slowly get better and
better.


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From: Chuck Biggs
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: January 15, 1999 8:56 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 90 F-150 problem of interest


>While I read this list daily I have not posted for quite a while now.
>
>On Tuesday I awoke to find my 90 F-150 dead as a doornail. I
>immediately suspected the battery and after charging the battery,
>returned it to be checked. It checked bad and was replaced. I drove it
>directly home and the vehicle was not started until Wednesday morning.
>The battery was dead as a doornail again. I charged it and returned it
>again to make sure they did not put in another bad battery (which has
>happened to me before.) The tech said there was a load on the battery
>with the key off and he heard a noise from under the truck. I listened
>and it sounded like the fuel pump was running with the key off. I
>thanked him and took the vehicle home, located the fuel pump relay
>mounted on the air cleaner housing and rapped it with a screw driver and
>the pump stopped. Just to be sure I replaced the relay and the problem
>seems to have gone away.
>
>The problem I am left with, however, is now the truck starts and runs
>rough. It shakes until it warms up and does not take throttle well even
>after warming up. Before this incident it started and ran very
>smoothly. Anyone experience the same symptoms after having problems
>with a stuck fuel pump relay?
>
>Thanks in advance for any comments.
>
>Chuck Biggs
>mailto:biggs flash.net
>
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:30:00 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco

Spencer wrote:

> Hey Guys -
>
> I didn't get any responses to my first try with this - here goes again. I
> have an '85 Bronco (Full-sized of course) Eddie Bauer, 351 (new 1 yr. ago),
> 3-spd AT. I just bought it a couple months ago. It has 33" tires, and I
> think the size of the tires has effectively changed the gear ratios and
> reduced the rig's available power. It seems a little sluggish from a stop,
> and shifts a lot at highway speeds (50-60 mph). I know it has had some
> effect because the odometer is off by about 10% (the number of miles it
> shows is about 90% of the actual miles I drive). Any thoughts you have on
> fixing this will be appreciated - but I'm not putting on smaller tires :).

What rear-end you got ? 8.8" or 9"

No I am not getting personal here. :-)

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale or back to the leasing dealer in March :-) :-))


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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:02:51 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco

Spencer wrote:
>
> Hey Guys -
>
> I didn't get any responses to my first try with this - here goes again. I
> have an '85 Bronco (Full-sized of course) Eddie Bauer, 351 (new 1 yr. ago),
> 3-spd AT. I just bought it a couple months ago. It has 33" tires, and I
> think the size of the tires has effectively changed the gear ratios and
> reduced the rig's available power. It seems a little sluggish from a stop,
> and shifts a lot at highway speeds (50-60 mph). I know it has had some
> effect because the odometer is off by about 10% (the number of miles it
> shows is about 90% of the actual miles I drive). Any thoughts you have on
> fixing this will be appreciated - but I'm not putting on smaller tires :).
>
Well, I didn't answer last time because I figured others were more able
to, but, what the heck ;-)

If all you want to do is get the spedometer right, I know that on a
Chrysler you just
change the speedometer pinion to one with ~10% fewer teeth. Speedo and
odo will then be right. But you'll still be sluggish. That's because the
big tires have effectively given you a taller final drive ratio. There's
only two fixes for that. One is to put standard size tires back on
there, the other is to change the differential to one that is about 10%
shorter (numerically higher). If it's a four wheel drive, then that
means changing two differentials. This can get spendy.

Spendy. Sluggish. Your pick.

- --
Andre
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:03:36 -0600
From: David Cole
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6

You may not have to remove the valve body. There are two seals for this
shaft. One is similar to a tail shaft seal, only much smaller. It is
driven into place and seals the the main shaft. If this is the leaking one
the valve body must come out. The other is a small o-ring that seals the
kickdown shaft that is inside the main shaft. This one can be removed with
a tiny screwdriver once you take the kickdown lever off. If it is the
main one go ahead and pull the pan. The valve body on a C-6 is easy to
remove. While you are in there go ahead and replace the filter.

One other thing. While you have the main shaft out go ahead and replace
the locknut on the band adjustment screw. It has a rubber seal inside of
it that is old enough to leak if the other seals are starting to leak. It
only costs a couple of bucks, but you'll have to get it from a trans repair
shop. Also, with the valve body out of the way you can adjust the band for
proper clearance. You can see the band and it'll only take a couple of
wrenches. To do it from the outside correctly takes a oddball square
socket and a torque wrench with a 90 deg extension (rare and inaccurate) to
get to the adjustment screw.

Any thing I can help you with let me know.

Later,

David Cole

At 11:10 PM 1/14/99 -0000, you wrote:
>My AOD has a similar leak and according to my Haynes you ahve to take the
>valve body off the change the seal, I would assume that the C-6 is the same.
>Removing the valve body could be a serious PITA.
>
>Rade
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andre Roy
>>Hi All
>>
>>The C6 (at least I think it's a C6) in my 81 F150, 300 CID is leaking
>>right around the shift shaft. You know, the shaft that the linkage
>>attaches to to tell the transmission to go into Park, Neutral, Drive,
>>"R" for race ;-) etc.
>>
>>I'm guessing it's just a O-ring or something similar sealing it. Is this
>>an easy fix or should I just keep dumping transmission fluid into it
>>every now and then. Well, I _am_ going to keep dumpung T-fluid in for
>>now, expected high of -25C, I ain't crawling under the truck to fix it.
>>:-/
>
>>Andre


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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:34:25 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6

David Cole wrote:
>
> You may not have to remove the valve body.
>
This is really good news! :-)

[snip ecellent advice]

>
> Any thing I can help you with let me know.
>
Uh, yeah, can you make it stop snowing? ;-) This is going to hve to wait
until at least spring (May), but I'm keeping this one on hand.

- --
Andre
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:13:24 -0600
From: David Cole
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Leaky C6

At 02:34 PM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>David Cole wrote:
>>
>> You may not have to remove the valve body.
>>
>This is really good news! :-)
>
>[snip ecellent advice]
>
>>
>> Any thing I can help you with let me know.
>>
>Uh, yeah, can you make it stop snowing? ;-) This is going to hve to wait
>until at least spring (May), but I'm keeping this one on hand.
>
>--
>Andre


Can't do anything about the snow. Wish it would snow here (Alabama) at
least once this year. We have had a bit of ice a couple of times so far,
but no snow yet.

Later,

David Cole

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:35:14 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Torque converters

Andre writes: >>The Mopar Mailing List was just bandying $300.00 about. But
this was for
high performance/racing converters. I would think maybe half of that for
normal street or off-road use.

I gave $55 to TransMart just a couple of months ago for a MOPAR one for the FWD
in a '92 Dodge Spirit with the infamous A604 (the one that we've had so darn
many problems with, but the Management won't give in to give up on) and 3.0L
engine.

Haven't ever bought a FOMOCO one (Stock that is - I have had 2 Hi-stalls).

While on this TQ thread -- there used to be a "sprag" clutch in them( back in
the 50's on the FOrd-O-Matics). Those came apart. Umpteen bolts around the
outer perimeter of it. All of the modern TQ's are repairable only by TQ shops.
Have to have some very precision equipment.

Azi e
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:35:35 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco

Spencer,
Well you can contact Interactive Technologies at
(800-820-1082/770-720-1259/Fax 770-720-1249). They have a device that will let
you set the right signal from the rear end to straighten out your Speedo. Now,
since you aren't going to put on smaller tires, I would suggest a healthy dose
of Supercharger or an engine build up. Since you have the 351 check with the
National Lightning Owners Club. They will know exactly where you can find
performance parts for your motor and they also probably have some secrets to
let you know too. Besides that...you'll be stuck shifting a LOT at highway
speeds and starting off like a slug.
Later,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab
Wayne's Flareside Page
In a message dated 1/15/99 1:12:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
spencer stromberglaw.com writes:

have an '85 Bronco (Full-sized of course) Eddie Bauer, 351 (new 1 yr. ago),
3-spd AT. I just bought it a couple months ago. It has 33" tires, and I
think the size of the tires has effectively changed the gear ratios and
reduced the rig's available power. It seems a little sluggish from a stop,
and shifts a lot at highway speeds (50-60 mph). I know it has had some
effect because the odometer is off by about 10% (the number of miles it
shows is about 90% of the actual miles I drive). Any thoughts you have on
fixing this will be appreciated - but I'm not putting on smaller tires :).

Spencer Stromberg >>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:03:35 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Plug Wires for my 92 F-150

Thanks for the Accel recomendation! But are there any black wires that
good? My nearby former HiLo now O'Reilly, has Accel stuff...

It was very strange, all day no ping, then about 3000rpm WOT, it started,
let off some...never pinged again today.

Incidently mine seems ALL done by 4000, is that about right for a stocker?

Dave H.
dharmier gte.net

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:06:50 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Gas gauge trouble.

We had an 88 F-150 6cyl. 5 speed, that pumped fuel from front to rear,
until selecter valve change. My Dads 87 Ranger did it too...but fixed
itself???? My 92 hasn't ever done it.

Something to ponder eh?

Dave H.
dharmier gte.net
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:34:22 -0600
From: Steve Randa
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel w/cruise

Does anyone know of a steering wheel producer that offers an adapter or
extra assembly for the cruise control.

Steve Randa
'84 F150

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:40:48 -0600
From: Steve Randa
Subject: FTE 80-96 - AM-FM Stereo w/o cassette

Any of you upgrade to a newer stereo and have the older one just
collecting dust. I'm looking for a stereo in good condition w/o
cassette (preset buttons MUST work) that will work in an '84 F150. I've
got the dual knob style dash plate. Not to be picky and all but
hopefully with the OEM connector still intact.

Steve Randa

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:39:01 -0700
From: "The Alaskans"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Help me please!

Can somebody tell me the horsepower and torque ratings for a 460 in a 96
F250??????



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Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '85 Bronco



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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:01:30 -0500
From: "R. Kent Cripps"
Subject: Re: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether

I agree that this is the most likely cause (my '81 STILL does this).
Another possibility could be corroded contacts on a common ground. When the
truck is first started, its electrical system is using most of its juice to
keep the truck running and to recharge the battery. After it has warmed up,
the battery load is reduced and there may be enough voltage to overcome
minor resistance in the circuit. With time, this type of problem will only
get worse. It's quite common in vehicles that have been through a lot of
hot/cold cycles.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:09:47 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cold wether

AeroAce13 aol.com wrote:
snip Whenever the temp outside drops to below freezing the heater and turn
signal will not work. but after letting it warm up for about 5 - 7 min and
shut it off and restart it the heater and turn signal work again. this only
happens in the cold and I want to know if it is something freezing or if
there is a short somewhere.
>
I had a similar thing on my '81. snip
Seems there is a 'position' between "Run" and "Start" where the accessories
are turned
off, but the starter is not engaged. snip

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:27:10 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rim on an 91' F-250

Dear fellow Ford enthusiasts,

I have a 1991 Ford F-250 H.D. XLT Lariat pickup, 4x4, lockouts. I noticed
when i bought the truck that three of the rims were the same and 1 was
different. (looks like its off of an older ford maybe 85 or so.) There are
two ways to tell the difference: 1.) the 3 rims that are the same are gray,
and the odd ball is tanish brown. 2.) when the odd ball rim is on the front
it makes the lockout hub stick about an inch out of the hubcab, but when the
regular gray rim is on, the lockout hub matches up flush with the hubcap. I
see trucks that are like mine with the hubs matching up flush and some that
don't, what does this mean? Are the rims different on a XLT than an XLT
LARIAT? i need to find a rim that are like the other three. Can i get one at
the junkyard?

Thanks
Paul
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:32:08 -0800
From: Eric Sneed
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - AM-FM Stereo w/o cassette

Steve,
I've got a stock am/fm cassette from a 89 f150 in a box in my garage. I
know you did not want cassette, but if you can't find what you are
looking for let me know.

Eric Sneed

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> From:Steve Randa [SMTP:sranda ch-advertising.com]
> Sent:Friday, January 15, 1999 3:41 PM
> To:FTE 80-96
> Subject:FTE 80-96 - AM-FM Stereo w/o cassette
>
> Any of you upgrade to a newer stereo and have the older one just
> collecting dust. I'm looking for a stereo in good condition w/o
> cassette (preset buttons MUST work) that will work in an '84 F150.
> I've
> got the dual knob style dash plate. Not to be picky and all but
> hopefully with the OEM connector still intact.
>
> Steve Randa
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:35:11 -0600
From: bgarrett
Subject: FTE 80-96 - timing chain

wifes f-150 has 190k miles of hauling horses...uh! ain't it about due
for a timing chain? it's kinda got that rattle but folks have told me
they last forever. i guess forever is when it jumps or breaks. thanks,
bg

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:58:57 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - timing chain

BG:

I'd put in a new roller chain/gear set and a new water pump while your at
it.
Those horses don't like being stranded!
Cheap fix, too.

Mike
redden enter.net

> From: bgarrett
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - timing chain
> Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 8:35 PM
>
> wifes f-150 has 190k miles of hauling horses...uh! ain't it about due
> for a timing chain? it's kinda got that rattle but folks have told me
> they last forever. i guess forever is when it jumps or breaks. thanks,
> bg

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:01:25 -0500
From: "Doug McGuinn"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - timing chain

I would replace it, just for the peace of mind if for no other reason. Mine
broke at about 200K miles, no warning given. Fortunately it happened in my
driveway, so I wasn't inconvenienced. Had it happened on the Interstate --
that would have been another story.

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From: bgarrett
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 8:40 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - timing chain


>wifes f-150 has 190k miles of hauling horses...uh! ain't it about due
>for a timing chain? it's kinda got that rattle but folks have told me
>they last forever. i guess forever is when it jumps or breaks. thanks,
>bg
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:22:51 -0800
From: Dana Bartholomew
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Wheel hop

Hey guys, I got my truck back from the spring shop. It's a '93 F350
crew cab 4x4 with a 460 and a pronounced rear wheel shudder at take off.
I had a 3" superlift block removed the springs re-arched and two leafs
added. It eliminated all the hop except for under heavy throttle from a
dead stop. Then it will hop for about 15' and then smooth out. Under
normal excelleration it is nice and smooth. I asked the guy at the shop
if he had any ideas. I could add one more leaf to stiffen it up some
more, negatives being cost, harsher ride, and no gaurantee that it will
eliminate the hop completely. I know I'm being a bit anal about now but
it still drives me crazy. The other alternative would be to fab up a set
off ladder bars to prevent the rear-end from rotating against the
springs. Any suggestions, one more leaf, ladder bars, quit being so
anal about and live with it?

Thanks,

Dana
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:31:02 -0800
From: Dana Bartholomew
Subject: FTE 80-96 - E4OD

Thanks to all who responded on my tranny questions. It seems that what
I'm feeling may indeed be normal lock-up after all. My concern was that
it went into lock-up so quickly in 2nd. This doesn't appear to indicate
a problem so I'll just live with it until the transmission decides to go
completely. I ran my codes the other night and the only thing that came
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