80-96-list-digest Tuesday, January 5 1999 Volume 02 : Number 438



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Electrical stuff...
Re: FTE 80-96 - Hub squeak
Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: TruckTough.com
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Electric fuel pump keeps running
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list- Choice of thermostats
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96- cutting out the computer
FTE 80-96 - One Ford to Another(kinda off topic)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Thermostat temperatures
FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited
Re: FTE 80-96 - Thermostat temperatures
Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II
RE: FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited
FTE 80-96 - Re: F150 Brakes
> Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II
FTE 80-96 - Re: Rear Brake Trouble (92 F-150 2WD)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Electric fuel pump keeps running
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: F150 Brakes
> FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 Re: Choice of thermostats, exhaust and performance chips
FTE 80-96 - T'stats
Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II
FTE 80-96 - Stuck in Park!
RE: FTE 80-96 - Stuck in Park!
FTE 80-96 - 3g alternator
Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 Re: Choice of thermostats, exhaust and performance chips
FTE 80-96 - re: Tailight problem
RE: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rear Brake Trouble (92 F-150 2WD)
FTE 80-96 - Mile Marker Hubs
FTE 80-96 - EGR Probs & ANTIFREEZE Odor
FTE 80-96 - why now? and hotter temps.
RE: FTE 80-96 - 3g alternator
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1994 Explorer Automatic Hub Problem
FTE 80-96 - Bad Pads
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Pads
FTE 80-96 - Spark Plugs... Help!

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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:55:16 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Huse"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Electrical stuff...

- -Interesting. I'm new to all this electrical diagnosis, so sorry if I
- -ask too many questions, but are all the bulbs suppost to ground? If
- -so, how can I find out which one isn't grounding? About the only
- -thing I have in the way of electrical equipment is my multimeter.

Every electric gizmo/gadget on the truck has to be grounded to work at
all (also the engine; even the transfer case, if you have el-activated
4WD). Generally on all US cars, black leads should be ground. On
European cars, they may well be brown. Haven't had any japanese, so I
can't wouch for them...

Some components may be grounded through another's connection (all bulbs
in the rear lights may share the same ground connection, for instance).
Or; each single component may have a separate ground (most running light
relays and aftermarket equipment, for instance).

To find out if the ground connection is bad, you could switch your
multimeter to ohms and hold it to the connector to black lead (ground)
in your blinker lamp assembly and onto chassis ground _with the lights
turned off_. The meter should read 0 or close to that. Another way of
checking if the ground lead is bad is to use one probe lead from your
multimeter, hold it between the connector to the black lead in your
blinker lamp and chassis ground _while the lamp is blinking_. If your
rear end changes from "Caddy pimp mode" (all lights blinking) to single
blinker lamp blinking; your problem is found. Fix the old or install a
new ground connection.

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Bjornar Huse
Aalesund, Norway
1 1990 Ford E-250 Club Wagon 7.3 diesel, 3.54, E4OD
1 1994 Ford Escort 1.3
1 1986 Ford Escort 1.6 Wagon
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 07:23:55 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Hub squeak

Randy wrote:

> Rick,
> I see one small problem with your suggestion. How do I keep the rear tires
> > from making the truck drive over the jack stands??? Hehe.

Okay, you caught me too. I was not having a very good day
yesterday after being out of work for the previous 11 days.
Please forgive my idiocracy. Is that that word? :-)

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 07:49:16 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II

Dave Slotter wrote:

> Rick,
>
> In an EFI engine, doesn't the computer (EEC-IV) control the choke? If so, I
> would bet that the computer *does in fact* factor in to this problem and
> that I should try swapping back in the old (working?) coolant temperature
> sensor and see if that does the trick. That is easy enough.

Yeah I forgot you had EFI. Ummm, I can only say that thecomputer handles it, I
just don't know how. Anyone know
how the EFI handles what the choke's responsibility was ?
Be kinda nice to know, cause it will help me out with my
Mustang's EFI.


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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
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'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:51:41 -0500
From: Mike Sloane
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: TruckTough.com

I tried to take the survey, but all I got back was an "error processing"
message. I think the site needs some work. The questions were a little
strange too.

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:01:19 -0800 (PST)
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Electric fuel pump keeps running

Mark,that would be me:-) There isn't only the oil pressure interlock
switch on mine,but a fuel pump relay and inertia switch.If the relay is
stuck,it would continue to run after shutoff,but would have to go
through the oil pressure interlock also. If you have an 89 half ton,it's
going to be controlled through the EEC4.My advice would be to get a
schematic wiring diagram and begin tracing the circuit to the fuel pump
starting at the ignition switch.With the key off,the circuit should be
dead.If it isn't,you just found your problem.

Randy Goolsby,LaCenter,WA.94 Bronco EB 85 F-250 4X4"the Second
Amendment guarantees all the others"
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:22:30 -0800 (PST)
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list- Choice of thermostats

Mike, Personally I think you have too cold a thermostat.For EFI'd
engines,the factory thermostat is around 195 degrees.I will be replacing
mine with a 195-205 degree thermostat soon. The problem the lower
thermostats create is a richer exhaust which to some point the EEC will
try to counteract by leaning it out.The newer "lean-burn" engines need
the higher operating temperatures to run right.Besides,your heater will
work better with the hotter thermostat,kind of a fringe benefit:-)

Randy Goolsby,LaCenter,WA.94 Bronco EB 85 F-250 4X4"the Second
Amendment guarantees all the others"
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 06:41:07 -0800 (PST)
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96- cutting out the computer

Casey,why in the world would you want to do this? Do you know how the
thing even operates on your truck,or is it the fact that if its a
computer,it has to be a piece of unreliable crap? Sure,simplicity is
good,but so is efficiency.Simplicity will not pay you back in fuel
dollars saved,OTOH increased fuel efficiency will.That computer on the
EEC4 & 5 trucks monitors your fuel mixture, engine load, temperatures and
other data continuously every second it is in operation.Not
understanding how something works is not a good reason to throw it in
the garbage IMNSHO.

Randy Goolsby,LaCenter,WA.94 Bronco EB 85 F-250 4X4"the Second
Amendment guarantees all the others"
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:10:35 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - One Ford to Another(kinda off topic)

Gang(s),
Yesterday morning while backing my Mustang out of my sloped driveway
I backed my Mustang into my Bronco. Crunched by my brushguard. So with
the 17degrees (Yes even in Alabama) yesterday morning the plastic of the

passenger side rear taillight lense shattered all over the place. I need
to get a
new one. Just called Ford($81.00+tax). Can Anyone help me out. Its
a '92 5.0L LX. Oh it was 11 degrees here this morning, but no more
plastic
all over the place. :-) I checked JCWhitney but all they had in the
catalog
was the blackout taillight lenses. Please contact me directely so's I
don't use up valuable bandwidth on the lists. Any help would be great.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:03:30 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Thermostat temperatures

I'm all ears too. It'll be nice to be able to tell my father something
he doesn't know for a change. ;-)
And of course, thanks for the info you've already offered up.

- -Mike

- -----Original Message-----
From: Radoje Spasojevic
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Thermostat temperatures


I agree with Andre, it is nice to hear from someone who is not one of us
"self-educated" shade tree mechanics...tell us everything there is to know
about thermostats, please.

Rade
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andre Roy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Thermostat temperatures


>S Spaulding wrote:
>>
>> Up until recently, I was Product Engineering Manager for
>> Standard-Thomson Corporation. This company is a part of Stant
>> Corporation, which falls under the Gates Rubber umbrella.
>>
>
>[snip some _very_ intersting stuff]
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>> If you made it this far, thanks for reading...
>>
>Is that all? More!
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>Thank you.
>
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:20:17 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited

Listarians,

I braved the weather last night and changed the thermostat back to a
higher temp one, on, well, *everybody's* recommendation. All is now fine
and good, but I'm now back to where I was when I first started the job. The
thing that prompted me to believe that the thermostat was on its way out was
that the temperature gauge would fluctuate a good eighth to a quarter of the
dial constantly. It didn't matter if I was idling, cruising around town, or
on the highway, I could sit there and watch it creep up and then drop back
down every 90 seconds or so. Maybe it's normal and I just never noticed it
before, but I never remember that happening on any other vehicle I've owned.
So I changed the t-stat to the lower temp one and had the same problem,
only it was happening at a lower temp. (duh!) Now I'm back to the normal
temp t-stat and am still seeing the same thing.
So, it's obviously not the thermostat. Would this be considered normal
behavior (the truck's, not mine) or is it a sign of something else on the
verge of going bad?

As always, thanks in advance.

- -Mike


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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:17:26 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Thermostat temperatures

I agree with Andre and Rade. The more info we can get, the better educated we
"jacklegs" get. I feel like the robot from "Short Circuit" when he says"
INPUT, MORE INPUT."
Wayne
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:17:00 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II

>Dave Slotter wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> In an EFI engine, doesn't the computer (EEC-IV) control the choke? If so, I
>> would bet that the computer *does in fact* factor in to this problem and
>> that I should try swapping back in the old (working?) coolant temperature
>> sensor and see if that does the trick. That is easy enough.
>
>Yeah I forgot you had EFI. Ummm, I can only say that thecomputer handles it, I
>just don't know how. Anyone know
>how the EFI handles what the choke's responsibility was ?
>Be kinda nice to know, cause it will help me out with my
>Mustang's EFI.

Rick,

I braved the 4 degree F temperature in Pittsburgh this morning before work
and managed to unplug the wiring plug from the coolant temperature sensor
without breaking it. (I was afraid about applying force to a cold, hence
brittle, object.) I connected it to the old (I think good) coolant
temperature sensor and the truck actually started turning over a bit. I
didn't put the new sensor in place - I'm not that crazy to stay out in the
cold that long - I just let it dangle out of the way of any moving parts.

Since the engine actually turned over somewhat after switching the sensor,
I believe that I have either improved or fixed one of the variables causing
my problem.

When we previously ran a Key On Engine Running (KOER) test on the EEC-IV,
we got a code which said that the EGR valve isn't working properly. We
removed it and cleaned it so that it was able to move better, but we still
get that code.

Is the EGR valve used to control/assist the choke on an EFI engine? It
seems relatively easy to replace on the Bronco, so I plan on replacing it
anyway. I just want to know if it is a possible culprit of this problem.

- -Dave
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:20:16 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited

Mike,

I had a Pontiac that did this too, so I know what you're talking about.
Some comments from the thermostat expert might be good here, but I know that
there is some difference between the temperature where the t-stat starts to
open and when it is wide open. Also, the t-stat only controls the
temperature at the thermostat itself, so if the temp sender is located in a
different place, you are observing the temperature at a different place in
the engine.

I think you would find quite a lot of variance in coolant temperature at
different places in the engine. Since cooled water comes in at the front
and the hot coolant leaves from the front, it seems that the cylinders at
the rear of the block are likely to be running at higher temperatures than
the fronts since the impedance to flow is higher in those rear cylinders
than in the front. I don't think there is much that you can do to change
this, unless you fill the block with concrete like sleddog does!

Ford has played some tricks with instrumentation, which continues to this
day. People don't like to see fluctuation like you're seeing, so they
"adjust" the characteristics of the gauges so that they have a large "flat
spot" where the needle position doesn't change between something like 160F
and 220F. They employed different circuitry to do this in different models
and different years, and in some it is likely that none of this
"conditioning" was done. I don't know when this practice started, but at
least by the early '90s.

By the way, that Pontiac that I had blew a head gasket at 50K miles. Always
wondered if that temperature cycling had something to do with it...but I'll
never know.

Regards,
Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX


- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael J. Pasznik, Jr. [mailto:mjp globespan.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 9:20 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited


Listarians,

I braved the weather last night and changed the thermostat back to a
higher temp one, on, well, *everybody's* recommendation. All is now fine
and good, but I'm now back to where I was when I first started the job. The
thing that prompted me to believe that the thermostat was on its way out was
that the temperature gauge would fluctuate a good eighth to a quarter of the
dial constantly. It didn't matter if I was idling, cruising around town, or
on the highway, I could sit there and watch it creep up and then drop back
down every 90 seconds or so. Maybe it's normal and I just never noticed it
before, but I never remember that happening on any other vehicle I've owned.
So I changed the t-stat to the lower temp one and had the same problem,
only it was happening at a lower temp. (duh!) Now I'm back to the normal
temp t-stat and am still seeing the same thing.
So, it's obviously not the thermostat. Would this be considered normal
behavior (the truck's, not mine) or is it a sign of something else on the
verge of going bad?

As always, thanks in advance.

- -Mike


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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:29:19 -0500
From: EJ
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: F150 Brakes
>
dave wrote:


The brakes on this truck seem to be very touchy and grab with not alot
of pressure. They lock up with minimum force. This is a real problem
when driving in the rain or snow!

Has anyone found the cure for this. I haven't yet started examining the
brakes but was looking for ideas on what to be looking for.

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Had the same problem on my 92 F-250. My rear axle seals were leaking and
saturating the pads, making the brakes real touchy. I know exactly what
you mean about the rain and snow, i got to the point that the truck
became invisible to me whenever it was wet outside, i would jump in one
of the other cars instead.

I would also think that your ABS would help control that. Make sure you
REALLY DO have ABS. I'm supposed to have ABS on mine, but the previous
owner disconnected it. Did a really good job too(*sarcasm*). The light
still comes on at start up, and goes right out, making everything seem
and appear to be 100 % functional. Course if you climb all the way under
the truck and look up under the frame rails, you see that there is now a
totally useless piece of equippment on the left hand frame rail.
Somebody by-passed the ABS system and set things up like a non ABS
truck. It seems that for the amount of work that had to be done to do
this, they should have just tried to fix the ABS.

EJ(who did'nt climb far enough under the truck he now owns)

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The "Fleet"
1979 Pontiac "Olds organ donor" Trans Am T-tops Rebuilt Olds 6.6L 403
4bbl-TH350 Performer Cam and Intake.....going into the Calais
For Sale.
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais T-Tops 5.0L 307 4bbl-TH350-2.14 gears K+N.....
soon to be 6.6L 403 4bbl, and hopefully some better "rear" gears
1985 Olds Toronado 5.0L 307 4bbl-AOD(newly acquired Sept. 98).
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC Moonroof 5.0L 302 EFI HO-AOD-3.27 gears
inner fender baffle removed-K+N.
1992 Ford F-250 Reg-Cab 4WD 7.5L 460 EFI-E4OD Auto-3.55 gears.
3-inch converter-dual outlet flowmaster 3 chamber.
Complete K+N(no more factory air-box)-ADS Super Chip-Spitfires-
Accel Super Coil-Cap-Rotor & 8.8 wires.
1994 Toyota Camry Sedan 4-banger-(Wow we could have had a V6!)-"mili
-liter"-AOD. K+N (why did I even bother, still a slug!)
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:31:37 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Hard Start Problem with '86 Bronco II

The EEC-IV reads off of 5 or 6 different sensors to decide things like choke
and such. I know that it relies on the coolant temp sensor, the Manifold air
pressure sensor, the Massair sensor (if equipped), the Throttle position
sensor, manifold temperature sensor, and one other I cant think of. But if the
coolant temp sensor is bad it will cause the computer to stay in open (or
closed cant remember which) loop mode and stay with a preset default program
which will keep the timing retarded and keep the mixture way rich. I haven't
been following this thread that closely, but when you do get it started have
you checked your initial timing (without SPOUT) and then your timing (with
SPOUT) in place. It sounds like to me that either the TPS sensor is showing
the wrong signal to the 'puter or that the timing is off and its set way too
far retarded.
Just my . 02,
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:37:34 -0600
From: "Dave Harmier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Rear Brake Trouble (92 F-150 2WD)

Hi all,

My 92 F-150 S/C 5.0L E4OD at approx. 6400 pounds WILL NOT lock rears!!!
It will slide the fronts to cords (fortunately not the BFG tires I have
THIS time!!!!) and I'd have to guess the rears are NOT pulling their share.

No ABS lights or any other indication. For reference, my dads 87 Ranger has
the VERY touchy when cold syndrom (rears lock EASY) but it takes no time to
have good brakes.

I just adjusted them like a week ago (and haven't had a panic stop since)
Incidently, it stops well, except under duress (and that's NOT good for my
shorts!!!!)

Thanks in Advance!

Dave H.
dharmier gte.net
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:40:41 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Choice of thermostats -- Revisited

Mike,
Sounds like either the sending unit or the actual temperature sensor itself is
going out. Check those out.
Wayne Foy
"94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:53:00 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Electric fuel pump keeps running

If your fuel pump doesn't shut off, the relay could be stuck, or, if
controled by the EECIV, the EECIV could have an internal short or harness
short to ground, causing the relay to be continuously energised. I can't
remember if the relay coil is terminated to battery or switched ignition.
If it's terminated to the ignition switch, the relay should open when the
key is turned off, even if the EECIV pump transistor is shorted. Check the
voltages on the relay coil terminals with the key off. If there is no
voltage difference between them, then the relay should be off. Check the
resistance across the relay with it removed from the circuit--it should be
open (infinite resistance reading).

If the relay checks out OK, read the voltage between each relay control
terminal and ground (without the relay in the circuit) with the key off. If
there is battery voltage present on one of the control terminals, then the
ignition switch doesn't control it, and the EECIV has total control. With
the key off, the resistance to ground through the other terminal should be
infinite. If you get a low resistance reading, the EECIV either has an
internal shorted element, or there is a short to ground in the harness
somewhere.

By the way, if there is no indication of which terminals are which on the
relay, you can determine what they are like this: Check the resistance
between all relay terminals with the relay removed from the circuit. You
should find one pair of terminals with a finite resistance reading (my guess
would be 100 to 300 ohms). These are the control terminals. The other pair
should read open (infinite if a normally open type--which this should be).
There meter should also read open from either of the control terminals that
you found earlier to either of the relay switched terminals. If there is a
connection between either of the switched terminals, or either of these and
either of the control terminals, get another relay.

Regards,
Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX


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From: rokkinhorse webtv.net [mailto:rokkinhorse webtv.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 8:01 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-Electric fuel pump keeps running


Mark,that would be me:-) There isn't only the oil pressure interlock
switch on mine,but a fuel pump relay and inertia switch.If the relay is
stuck,it would continue to run after shutoff,but would have to go
through the oil pressure interlock also. If you have an 89 half ton,it's
going to be controlled through the EEC4.My advice would be to get a
schematic wiring diagram and begin tracing the circuit to the fuel pump
starting at the ignition switch.With the key off,the circuit should be
dead.If it isn't,you just found your problem.

Randy Goolsby,LaCenter,WA.94 Bronco EB 85 F-250 4X4"the Second
Amendment guarantees all the others"
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=47

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:57:20 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: F150 Brakes
>
In a message dated 1/5/99 11:33:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
oldsluvr bellatlantic.net writes:


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