80-96-list-digest Sunday, January 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 435



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: Muffler Replacement
Re: FTE 80-96 - Muffler Replacement
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Muffler Replacement
FTE 80-96 - Taillight problem...
Re: FTE 80-96 - What's first year for EFI on 4.9 engine?
FTE 80-96 - F-l50 TOWS
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-l50 TOWS
RE: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 diesel, cranking but not starting
FTE 80-96 - 95 F-150 4 x 4
FTE 80-96 - Straight-six

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:54:03 +0300
From: "David R Anderson"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Muffler Replacement

>The muffler on my '86 F-150 long bed (95M miles) needs to be
replaced.

I assume your talking about a single exhaust on maybe a six cylinder. Many
on the list like custom or performance exhaust systems but I find stock
parts just fine. Check prices at autozone or advance. I recently did my
'90 from the catalyst back for about $75. Should be 3 parts; a short
straight pipe from cat to the muffler, the muffler itself and a tailpipe.
David Anderson

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:26:20 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Muffler Replacement

if the cat isnt all rusted out or doesnt glow when the truck idles LEAVE IT
BE.. dont get suckered into a big cost by these unscrupulous muffler
shops...the rest of the exhaust is less that $250 depending where you live..
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:41:32 -0500
From: Tom Gunby
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Muffler Replacement

Hello David-
Thank you for the response. I went to the Auto Zone I trust (got shocks from
them last week and installed them no problem) and the manager suggested I have
a muffler shop do it. Went to a small shop that had done our emissions
inspection recently and they did it for $89.90. Wanted to do it myself but
after seeing them work with the cutting torch, cutting saw and pipe bender I
believe I did right but letting them do it. Cost more but I do not have the
type of equipment they used to complete the task. Thanks for responding.
Regards,
Tom Gunby

David R Anderson wrote:

> >The muffler on my '86 F-150 long bed (95M miles) needs to be
> replaced.
>
> I assume your talking about a single exhaust on maybe a six cylinder. Many
> on the list like custom or performance exhaust systems but I find stock
> parts just fine. Check prices at autozone or advance. I recently did my
> '90 from the catalyst back for about $75. Should be 3 parts; a short
> straight pipe from cat to the muffler, the muffler itself and a tailpipe.
> David Anderson
>
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:59:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Brent McNabb
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Taillight problem...

I have a problem that recently developed with my '96 F-150. I was
helping a friend move some of his cars, we were going to rent a U-Haul
full-car trailer, which needed a trailer light connector. Not having
towed anything with my truck, I went to the local auto parts store and
purchased a Hoppy trailer adaptor, which you just disconnect the
vehicle's wiring harness, which sits right underneath the rear edge of
the truck bed, and connect a T-connector, with a flat, four-pin light
connector. All went well, disconnected the battery, cleaned and
greased all the connections, and then
drilled a hole in the frame for the connector ground. Reconnected the
battery, and no turn signals or tailights. After a few tries they
both worked, although quite dim. Never hooked up the trailer, and
disconnected the T-connector, but the problem still remains, and has
gotten worse. Now, when the turn signals are used, not only the
correct tailight flashes, but they all do. For example, push the
lever down for a left-hand turn, and the left-hand light flashes, but
so do the right-hand light, and the license plate light. The parking
lights do not work all the time. All other lights work fine.
Replaced flasher and fuse, no help. Anybody have any suggestions? I
called Hoppy, and they said to get it repaired, and send them the
bill, but I'd rather do this myself, don't really like anybody
working on my truck, 210,000 miles and still going.





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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:57:03 -0500
From: Ben Havens
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - What's first year for EFI on 4.9 engine?

I'll second those dates Randy. And the 300 got FI in 1987.

>From: Randy
>
>Jim and Mike,
>Ford phased the EFI into the trucks engines in phases. The 302 became EFI
in
>1985 I think. The 351 in 1988 for sure. Don't know about the 300 though,
>sorry. "Jim! I'm a doctor, not an engine EFI specialist!"
>
>Michael Redden wrote:
>> As far as I know Ford went to EFI on all of the trucks built after
January
>> 1985.
>> I have a non-EFI 351W built in December 1984. It is a "1985 model".
>>
>> > Can anyone tell me what the first year was for EFI on the 4.9 liter
>> > straight-6 engine?
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Jim Cannon



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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:41:41 -0500 (EST)
From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-l50 TOWS

I recently purchased an F-150 XLT. It has 74,000 miles and is in
excellant shape. Here in Ohio it is nearly impossible to find a F-250 at
a bargain. The used ones go fast. I have a 4000 lb stock trailer
equipte d with electric brakes. I haul three horses that add up ot
possibly 7000, total. The l997 I have has a C-6 with a 5.0 EFI.
The old gentleman who owned it had a low positive traction gear
installed. It has transmission cooler and all the extra tow goodies.
It pulls the trailer with little effort. I had a l995 ram 2500 that did
not do as well. I use weight distribution bars and the rear of the
truck is level. 55 mph seems to be a good towing speed for it.
The dodge had a bigger top end but had the 230 horse engine verses l85.
The dodge sank a little even with the distribution bars. It had a single
35 gallon tank though. I really dont know what the problem is about
using a 150 for towing. I know the bearings are smaller and such but
mine does a good job and it doesnt seem to hurt it. Just thought I would
put this out for comment.




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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:51:18 EST
From: DJ250r aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-l50 TOWS

i have a 95 f150 x cab with a 4.9 i 6 in it ,i tow a small trailer to glamis
300 miles it tows that great about 2500 lbs.now my boat on the other hand tows
ok but its slow at 55 its 4500lbs.i need a biger truck but ill wate till this
one is payed off.
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:49:31 -0600
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 diesel, cranking but not starting

- -----Original Message-----
From: Craig Rubin [mailto:crubin foxinternet.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 7:44 PM
To: FTE 80-96
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 85 F250 diesel, cranking but not starting


Hi all and Happy New Year,

My F250 gave me a New Year's eve present by not starting. It cranks
over
just fine and will not run. The glow plug indicator stays on for about
8
seconds then cycles on and off for at least 2 minutes. Prior to today
the
engine has idled and ran good.
With hindsight, the indicator light has stayed on a little longer lately
before it started.

This symptom could be turning your glow plugs into non-glow plugs. Any
longer than 10 seconds and they can start to burn up, and worse. If
they get too hot before they burn out they can blister. When you try to
take them out the blistered end will end up in the combustion chamber
and then you have to pull the heads to get the piece out (ask me how I
know this...).

The 8 glow plugs are just a couple of months old. The glow plug relay

Doesn't matter how old they are. I've burned about a dozen of them this
year while trying to make my glow plug system function properly.

checks out ok and the fuse links on the right inner fender are ok also.

Did you go through the troubleshooting procedure outlined in the Haynes
Diesel Manual?

Should the next step be checking out the glow plug controller? and or
what
next?

Pull a glow plug and test it. You can test them on the truck too, but
they are really easy to get out. Check them for continuity by
connecting a lead to the tab on the glow plug and grounding the other
lead (using a test light or VOM). If there is connectivity the glow
plug is probably good. I usually pull them out and connect a gator clip
to the tab and the + side of the battery, then ground the bodyof the
plug to the truck. If it heats up it's good.

If they are bad replace them (bummmer, here they are about $8 each). If
they are good then you can test the relay by putting power to it. There
is a purple wire that comes from the controller at the back of the
engine. If you pull the connector off and using the gator clipped wire,
from before, apply power from the battery to the relay it should click
and the glow plugs should operate. DO NOT hold the power to it for any
longer than a quick 8 count (10 seconds or less). If the truck starts
OK after that the problem is either in the harness or the controller.
There is a very detailed procedure in the Haynes diesel engine manual
describing what voltages should be where when.

If I can help further just send a note. I've got a lot of experience
with my GP controller, it still doesn't work properly but at least I
know why :-)

Thanks,

Craig Rubin
crubin foxinternet.net





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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:29:40 EST
From: Wilsut aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 F-150 4 x 4

Just bought a 95 f-150 4x4 a couple months ago has the pushbutton 4x4 with
automatic locking hubs.
Have never had a 4x4 before and need to get educated. Got stuck in the snow
today and my hubs will not lock up at all.
Is this something that needs to be replaced ? Is it an electrical problem ?
Would like some help on what to look for ?
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:10:26 EST
From: SpyderLv81 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Straight-six

I need to know the company that sells performance parts for the straight six.
Do they have a web page?

spyder....


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