80-96-list-digest Saturday, January 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 434



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In this issue:

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FTE 80-96 - 1994 Explorer Automatic Hub Problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1995 F150 4x4
FTE 80-96 - Re: Won't start in park
RE:Subject: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Hydraulics & Cold Weather
FTE 80-96 - Re: 1995 F150 4x4
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1995 F150 4x4
Re: FTE 80-96 - Heater Control - Revisited
FTE 80-96 - Re: 85 F250 diesel, cranking but not starting
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1995 F150 4x4
FTE 80-96 - Re:Clutch Hydrolics
FTE 80-96 - RE: Hub Squeak
FTE 80-96 - Muffler Replacement

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 07:23:13 -0600
From: "Rob Sartorius"
Subject: [none]

WHEN I TURN THE KEY IN PARK, IT WON'T TURN OVER, BUT WILL START IN NEUTRAL.
I HAVE A 1984 F-150 EXT CAB XLT 351 2 BL 3 SPD AUTO.
THE TUMBLER HAS BEEN STIFF AND WOULD NOT SNAP BACK TO RUN IN THE PARKED
POSITION, BUT NOW WILL NOT START IN PARK, JUST IN NEUTRAL AND THE TUMBLER
IS VERY LOOSE IN THE NEUTRAL POSITION. ANY SUGGESTIONS?

ROB SARTORIUS

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:58:27 -0500
From: "Paul Siebert"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1994 Explorer Automatic Hub Problem

I have a 1994 Explorer with Automatic Front Hubs. The left front hub is
not locking when I engage the 4WD. The right hub seems to be working fine.
Both front axles are engaged. There is a noise coming from the left hub
that sounds like the hub has activated but not enough to totally engage.

I have a Hayes manual for the vehicle, but it does not go into the
mechanics of the automatic hubs. I have taken the hub apart but cannot
figure out the problem, mainly because I don't know how they are suppose to
work.

I have two questions:

1.How are these hubs suppose to work?
2.Has anyone had a similar problem and if so, what was the fix. This
happened once before and the dealer ended up replacing the U-joints.
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:43:08 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1995 F150 4x4

Andrew,
As far as evaluating the truck, it's very hard to do not actually seeing the
vehicle and being able to drive it. A VERY good place to check price
comparison is edmunds.com, they have ways to evaluate the truck and a price
gauge that considers mileage and condition. Just as a comparison, I only paid
$13,900 for my 94 Flareside that had only 48k on the odometer. I had to work
them down to this price, which was almost exactly what the Edmund's guide
suggested. I hope that helps.
Later,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside Supercab
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm
Andrew Krein wrote: A small used car lot that mostly deals with pickups has a
1995 F150 for sale. It's a long bed, regular cab, 4x4 XL (I think it's an XL)
with a 351 v-8 and 4 speed automatic. It's a very stripped down truck, not
many frills and they're asking $9995 for it. It has about 95k miles and looks
to be in good condition. SNIP.
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:03:39 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Won't start in park

Sounds like the neutral safety switch or the key switch itself. Try pulling
the trans. lever toward park while starting it. If it starts then its probably
the keyswitch. If not then I would say its the safety switch.
Later,
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm

Rob wrote:
WHEN I TURN THE KEY IN PARK, IT WON'T TURN OVER, BUT WILL START IN NEUTRAL.
I HAVE A 1984 F-150 EXT CAB XLT 351 2 BL 3 SPD AUTO.
THE TUMBLER HAS BEEN STIFF AND WOULD NOT SNAP BACK TO RUN IN THE PARKED
POSITION, BUT NOW WILL NOT START IN PARK, JUST IN NEUTRAL AND THE TUMBLER
IS VERY LOOSE IN THE NEUTRAL POSITION. ANY SUGGESTIONS?

ROB SARTORIUS
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:06:38 -0600
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: RE:Subject: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Hydraulics & Cold Weather

Several years ago I changed the gear oil in my transmission and rear end,
just is case there was water in it from launching my boat. (My
brother-in-law had to replace his rear end due to water and I wanted to
avoid that kind of problem). I used a basic 80-90 weight gear oil, and after
that it was almost impossible to shift. This was in the summer. After
several months the problem disappeared. This year I put synthetic in and
there was again a slight difficulty in shifting at first, but it didn't last
as long. The synthetic doesn't get near as thick in the cold North Dakota
winters, so that it a nice benifit.
Steve

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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:04:25 -0600
From: Ezekial
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1995 F150 4x4

I recently bought a 1993 F-150 XLT, supercab, 4x4, 351, auto with
111,000 miles on it for 9500. So I think that your price is pretty good
for being two years newer. As long as its been taken care of, the miles
don't really matter, its a Ford remember.
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:19:35 -0800 (PST)
From: shy anne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1995 F150 4x4

Andy,
I have an 83 F-150 that i haul a 2-horse trailer with. it does pretty
good. I would like a bigger stronger truck but I don't have the money
for one right now.
Shy




- ---Randy wrote:
>
> Andy,
> If you plan to haul horses, even in the future, I'd consider an
F-250. Price
> is an issue here so you'd have to look at a truck a little older.
My '87 has
> 84k miles on it so just because it's a little older doesn't mean it
will have
> lots of miles on it. You can haul w/an F-150 if that's what you
already have
> in you mind you want to do. It's just that an F-250 is already
better suited
> for such a task. I don't know what the book price is, you can check
some sites
> on the web. I can't remember the names, but I know others on the
list will
> recommend them to you. The F-250 will usually have bigger or
better; tranny,
> t-case (if 4x4), axles, springs, payload, driveline and brakes
(although I
> don't tow anything w/o my electric brakes). We've recommended to
people who've
> asked about towing w/a 150 to sell it and get a 250, so you're
already ahead of
> the game! :-)
>
> Later,
> Brew
>
> Andrew Krein wrote:
>
> > I'm new to this list and am in need of some information from
those
> > with more experience with Ford Trucks than I have.
> >
> > A small used car lot that mostly deals with pickups has a
1995 F150
> > for sale. It's a long bed, regular cab, 4x4 XL (I think it's
an XL)
> > with a 351 v-8 and 4 speed automatic. It's a very stripped
down
> > truck, not many frills and they're asking $9995 for it.. It
has about
> > 95k miles and looks to be in good condition. At least
cosmetically.
> > Well kept interior and it started up quickly and idled
smoothly, but I
> > haven't had time to take it for a test ride or crawl around
it yet.
> > I'm looking for something to do some medium duty towing
someday, the
> > wife would like horses. Right now it's main purpose would be
for some
> > hauling and foul weather driving. I'd like to replace my '93
Firebird
> > Formula (please no non-Ford flames), which is of no use in
winter
> > weather.
>
> --snip---
>
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==
- -"God forbid I shall go to any heaven where there are no horses."



_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:32:27 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Heater Control - Revisited

Randy wrote:

> Bob,
> It is an '87 sorry. I think that will work. If the cable (?) is still attached
> at that end, I thought I'd pull the over off the controls and see if I could
> pull the cable. Can you give me an 'idea' of where to 'find' it?
>

Randy,

The easiest way to get to them is to remove your radio. You can actually see the
control operation that way.
Hope this helps...

Bob



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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:41:51 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 85 F250 diesel, cranking but not starting

On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, "Craig Rubin" wrote:
>
> Hi all and Happy New Year,
>
> My F250 gave me a New Year's eve present by not starting. It cranks over
> just fine and will not run. The glow plug indicator stays on for about 8
> seconds then cycles on and off for at least 2 minutes. Prior to today the
> engine has idled and ran good.
> With hindsight, the indicator light has stayed on a little longer lately
> before it started.
>
> The 8 glow plugs are just a couple of months old. The glow plug relay
> checks out ok and the fuse links on the right inner fender are ok also.
> Rain canceled out any more troubleshooting, at least for now but it rains
> all the time here in the Seattle, WA area.
>
> Should the next step be checking out the glow plug controller? and or what
> next?

Just a thought, I know this is not recommended procedure, but as long as
it is getting fuel just about any diesel will start, glow plugs or not.
You just have to keep cranking until it goes. Your batteries have to be
up to the task. After a little cranking you should start to see some
white fuel vapor drift out of the exhaust. It may crank up to a minute
before you get any fire at all. Once it does you will have to keep
assisting it with the starter until it gets enough cylinders lit up to
run on its own and it will shake and shudder and puke out smoke until it
gets them all going.

It's probably not a good idea for your batteries or starter's sake to do
this very often but if you have to be at work or are in the woods it's
good to know. For many of the larger and older heavy duty diesel
engines, this is just the way that you start them. They are no good for
any serious horsepower until fully warmed up.

Birken
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 16:23:58 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates

1. 47 new pictures added to pictorial. Two new pictorial sections created
(One for Rancheros and the other for 1999+ Superduty's). Over 325
trucks are now featured in our pictorials.

2. Several links added.

3. Classifieds reconfigured to make browsing easier.

Later,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:58:35 -0800
From: Larry
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 1995 F150 4x4

Ezekial wrote:

> I recently bought a 1993 F-150 XLT, supercab, 4x4, 351, auto with
> 111,000 miles on it for 9500. So I think that your price is pretty good
> for being two years newer. As long as its been taken care of, the miles
> don't really matter, its a Ford remember.

About 7 or 8 months ago I bought a 91 F-150, 4x2, supercab, 351, long bed
with every option available, and 47,000 miles for 10,000.


- --
-=Larry=-

ldidier att.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~ldidier


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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:04:31 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:Clutch Hydrolics

I had a standard trans. pick-up once (make not important, hehe) and after
replacing 5th gear I use plain old hypoid oil (70-90W i think) and when it
got cold, everything was stiff until it warmed up. so I went to a synthetic
oil and the problem went away. This made clutch a little less stiff but
didn't cure it. shifting was improved drastically.
hopefully helpful,
Bart-AK


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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:03:32 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Hub Squeak

Brew, sounds like univ. joint or spindle bearing to me.
Bart -AK

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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:17:59 -0500
From: Tom Gunby
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Muffler Replacement

The muffler on my '86 F-150 long bed (95M miles) needs to be replaced.
The tail pipe appears to be made into the rear of the muffler so it
seems the entire unit must be replaced from its joint at the rear of the....

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