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80-96-list-digest Saturday, December 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 420 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Re: FTE 80-96 - dealers Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble RE: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles Re: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble FTE 80-96 -urls for Ford and other sites RE: FTE 80-96 -urls for Ford and other sites FTE 80-96 - Tire siping - after use Re: FTE 80-96 - dealer(dumb??) Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble FTE 80-96 - Who knows a GOOD Houston area shop for my 92 F-150 5.0??? Re: FTE 80-96 - Who knows a GOOD Houston area shop for my 92 F-150 5.0??? FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: Light Stumble FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel Tank Switch Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel Tank Switch RE: FTE 80-96 - is ALDATA any good? Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble FTE 80-96 - '95 4x4 front end Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble FTE 80-96 - Airbag light blinks intermittently ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:46:01 -0600 From: David Cole Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble At 05:08 AM 12/18/98 -0800, you wrote: >I worked at Pep Boys and we always had people coming in not wanting to spend >money so they would opt for the cheap wires. Some came back complaining. >They were given refunds. All I can say is if you are gonna be cheap; don't >complain if they don't live up to your expectations. (You wouldn't buy a >Neon and expect to out run a Z28) No, I wouldn't expect them to be perfect. I would expect them to at least last a little while. Scenario: Due to work, it's a Sunday when you need to do a tune up. You go to Auto Zone (or other chain). You tell them you need plug wire wires among other things (everything for a complete tuneup). They ask if you want the 1 yr warranty wires or the lifetime wires. You tell them to give you the best wires they have, the lifetime warranty ones. You ask them if they are any good, any customer complaints, etc. They say no, they are very good wires. You say ok, take home and install. >From the above scenario I expect this. While I don't believe for a second that these wires will last for a lifetime, I do expect that they will work on the intended vehicle and that they will last longer than 4K miles! Later, David Cole == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 06:58:31 EST From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - dealers Scottie, On the trade in value of your dad's truck, I only have this to say. Bob is right about the salesman. He is going to make his money no matter what the true value of the truck is. I will say this though. When making a deal with a salesman, especially car salesman, haggle him down to the lowest price you can get WITHOUT telling him you have a trade-in. Make sure you have all of the deal set in stone, or on paper, then break it to him that you have a trade-in. That way the trade in value comes off of the BOTTOM line. Most dealerships will put your trade in on the top line of the deal then bury it with other charges and such so that it doesn't affect the deal at all. I have several friends who are auction dealers. They buy cars and trucks all day at 1/4 to 1/2 of the price on the sticker and then jack it up double to make their money. Don't get me wrong, I believe they should get paid but not 2 to 3 times the total value of the vehicle. Hope you get the truck, Wayne Foy '94 F150 Flareside Supercab http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:26:11 EST From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Matt, Just for the sake of a dig, they DO make a Neon that will outrun a Z28. I believe its an R Code. It can be ordered straight from the factory ready to bolt in a cage and go racing. Little pieces of junk can fly. Wayne Foy '94 F150 Flareside Supercab http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:56:33 -0500 From: Pete Serrino Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Matt, The point of my post was to point out in my experience Ford EFI 302 motors require wires with a lower than typical resistance. Cheap was in quotes because in fact they didn't cost any less than the genuine Ford wires I got for my '92. $10 wires with 3k nominal impedence would work just fine. If you are shopping for wires take an ohmmeter with you. Pete Serrino Matt and Deidre wrote: > > I worked at Pep Boys and we always had people coming in not wanting to spend > money so they would opt for the cheap wires. Some came back complaining. > They were given refunds. All I can say is if you are gonna be cheap; don't > complain if they don't live up to your expectations. >> I suspect "cheap" wires would be OK if they checked out below 5k when cold. >> >> Pete Serrino == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:30:41 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble At 07:26 AM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >Matt, >Just for the sake of a dig, they DO make a Neon that will outrun a Z28. I >believe its an R Code. It can be ordered straight from the factory ready to >bolt in a cage and go racing. Little pieces of junk can fly. >Wayne Foy >'94 F150 Flareside Supercab Was cruising the web last night looking for Ford truck sites and found an Escort site that sells nitrous! That's what you call a sleeper! But then again, that Escort can't pull a boat.... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:34:40 EST From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble Ken wrote: Was cruising the web last night looking for Ford truck sites and found an Escort site that sells nitrous! That's what you call a sleeper! But then again, that Escort can't pull a boat.... LMAO!!! Ken I live in an area where street and local strip racing is very common and a good place to see some of the upincoming mechanics show off what they have built and modified. We have kids here with 14 and 13 second Acura LEGENDS, and of course the Honda civics and Vdubs. Then of course there are the diehard Garbage Merchandise owners and their Camaros(the ones towed in by FORD trucks) and last but certainly not least a HUGE contingent of Mustang racers. Let me tell you, some of these kids and their rice rockets embarrass the heck out of these guys with the trailer cars. They can drive the car to the strip, change their FRONT tires to slicks, kick the crap out of all the American trailer queens, change the tires again and drive it home. I have seen a '90-'92 escort Gt. doing front wheel burnout's and dusting stock mustang Gt. and cobras all day long. I love American muscle, but with today's technology and electronic tuning, our muscle cars better step up to the new age or we are in for a big butt kicking come the new millennium! And no I don't think I want to see an Escort trying to tow a trailer!! IMHO, Wayne Foy '94 F150 Flareside Supercab http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:18:06 -0800 From: "John R. Jetty" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble >Ken wrote: And no I don't think I want >to see an Escort trying to tow a trailer!! >IMHO, >Wayne Foy >'94 F150 Flareside Supercab I suggest staying away from Pahrump Nevada there is a VW Bug that tows a trailer every once in a while James == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:29:34 -0700 From: "Giddens, Scott" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles How did you get the entire address on a single line without the mail server inserting a return? Scott > here is the ENTIRE address: > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.designtech-intl.com:591/designtech/html/FMPro?-db=dti.FP3&-lay= > Layout%20%231&-format=search.htm&-view > > G Hester == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:15:03 -0600 From: GTH Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles actually I 'copied' the URL and pasted it into the body of the message - --- and used Netscape! G Hester "Giddens, Scott" wrote: > > How did you get the entire address on a single line without the mail server > inserting a return? > > Scott > > > here is the ENTIRE address: > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.designtech-intl.com:591/designtech/html/FMPro?-db=dti.FP3&-lay= > > Layout%20%231&-format=search.htm&-view > > > > G Hester > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:04:50 -0800 From: "Matt and Deidre" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble You get what you pay for! - -----Original Message----- From: David Cole To: 80-96-list Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 3:53 AM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble >At 05:08 AM 12/18/98 -0800, you wrote: >>I worked at Pep Boys and we always had people coming in not wanting to spend >>money so they would opt for the cheap wires. Some came back complaining. >>They were given refunds. All I can say is if you are gonna be cheap; don't >>complain if they don't live up to your expectations. (You wouldn't buy a >>Neon and expect to out run a Z28) > >No, I wouldn't expect them to be perfect. I would expect them to at least >last a little while. > >Scenario: > >Due to work, it's a Sunday when you need to do a tune up. You go to Auto >Zone (or other chain). You tell them you need plug wire wires among other >things (everything for a complete tuneup). They ask if you want the 1 yr >warranty wires or the lifetime wires. You tell them to give you the best >wires they have, the lifetime warranty ones. You ask them if they are any >good, any customer complaints, etc. They say no, they are very good wires. > You say ok, take home and install. > >>From the above scenario I expect this. While I don't believe for a second >that these wires will last for a lifetime, I do expect that they will work >on the intended vehicle and that they will last longer than 4K miles! > >Later, > >David Cole > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:11:41 -0800 From: "Matt and Deidre" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble I have a Neon and I'm part of the neon mailing list. There is no Neon that will outrun a 300 HP Z28. I'm sorry. Maybe if you put nitrous but then again how long can that 2.0 L handle that. P.S. I have all kinds of performance parts on my Neon and it would barely outrun my 92 Camaro RS with the 5.0 L but then again it only had 170 HP. The most HP I've seen out of a Neon Is 190 HP and you have to send your engine in as a core. - -----Original Message----- From: FLR150 To: 80-96-list Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 4:33 AM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble >Matt, >Just for the sake of a dig, they DO make a Neon that will outrun a Z28. I >believe its an R Code. It can be ordered straight from the factory ready to >bolt in a cage and go racing. Little pieces of junk can fly. >Wayne Foy >'94 F150 Flareside Supercab >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:44:08 -0700 From: "Giddens, Scott" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble The HP is not the only consideration. A Camero weighs a lot more than a Neon. The ratio of HP to weight determines the performance in relationship to the acceleration. My wife's 2.2 L Subaru Legacy Turbo puts out about 180 HP and is very light. I can walk away from nearly all of the stock V8's with it with very little effort and I have never really put the foot all the way to the floor. It is the same reason a Mustang LX 5.0 L will beat a Mustang GT 5.0 L, they basically have the same motor but the GT has nearly 300 LB of fancy body work and suspension to slow it down. I was once beat off the line by a Do*g* Colt turbo in my Mustang 5.0 L. I have no idea what was in it but it had the minimum weight required to be called a car I am sure and a turbo charged 2.3 L motor. If you want to go fast buy a little car with the biggest turbo charged motor, but I would not want to be in an accident with one and don't plan on having to drive it very far or haul anything. Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt and Deidre [SMTP:mdaj > Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 2:12 PM > To: 80-96-list > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble > > I have a Neon and I'm part of the neon mailing list. There is no Neon > that > will outrun a 300 HP Z28. I'm sorry. Maybe if you put nitrous but then > again how long can that 2.0 L handle that. P.S. I have all kinds of > performance parts on my Neon and it would barely outrun my 92 Camaro RS > with > the 5.0 L but then again it only had 170 HP. The most HP I've seen out of > a > Neon Is 190 HP and you have to send your engine in as a core. > -----Original Message----- > From: FLR150 > To: 80-96-list > Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 4:33 AM > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble > > > >Matt, > >Just for the sake of a dig, they DO make a Neon that will outrun a Z28. I > >believe its an R Code. It can be ordered straight from the factory ready > to > >bolt in a cage and go racing. Little pieces of junk can fly. > >Wayne Foy > >'94 F150 Flareside Supercab > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:21:37 -0500 From: "Michael Redden" Subject: FTE 80-96 -urls for Ford and other sites G Hester's method is the best. Don't try to type long urls unless you want to go nuts! Just cut and paste them into your browsers address window or into an e-mail message. Mike michael redden > I bookmarked the site so I don't have to > type it all in again. :) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:36:05 -0700 From: "Giddens, Scott" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 -urls for Ford and other sites Is this not obvious? Are there actually people on the list that don't already know how to cut and paste from one window to another to avoid having to type long url's? Scott > G Hester's method is the best. Don't try to type long urls unless you > want > to go nuts! Just cut and paste them into your browsers address window > or into an e-mail message. > > Mike > > michael redden > > > I bookmarked the site so I don't have to > > type it all in again. :) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:45:18 -0800 From: Nathaniel Ingersoll Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tire siping - after use Alton's in Spokane siped my tires with 30k on them; about 50% remaining. Seems to help a little, not a ton, but it was really just a stop-gap measure while I decide to toss $650 at a new set of wheels and tires for wintertime. The siping was $40 total; they didn't seem to care that the tires were used, just that there was enough tread on them to be reasonable. In case anyone cares, we still don't have enough snow here to make me buy the tires and rims :-( N == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:47:58 EST From: ROlson1039 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - dealer(dumb??) l dont know where you live but i got me a 1989 F250 2X4 with 83K on it clean for only $3900 in march so to me the $4995 for a 150 is alot == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:55:09 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble FLR150 > > Ken wrote: > > Was cruising the web last night looking for Ford truck sites and > found an Escort site that sells nitrous! That's what you call a > sleeper! But then again, that Escort can't pull a boat.... > > LMAO!!! Ken I live in an area where street and local strip racing is very > common and a good place to see some of the upincoming mechanics show off what > they have built and modified. We have kids here with 14 and 13 second Acura > LEGENDS, and of course the Honda civics and Vdubs. For what it's worth (FWIW), those little rice burners have now broken into the 11 second bracket! They look pretty silly w/those HUGE front tires and having to have their bumper nearly touching the safety wall while in the smoke box at the strip, but nonetheless, they do it. Those drivers say you don't need cubic inches. Balogna "There is no replacement for displacement!". I don't care how much you get out of a 4 or 6 banger, cubes are irreplaceable. Turbos, superchargers, nitros, whatever it is, if you do it to a V-8 you'll have more horse than you know what to do with. Look what companies like Koenig, AMG and Calloway can get out of European or Corvette V-8's, 600 to 1200 hps! Of course, then you have the 700+ cubic inch Top Fuel dragsters making somewhere in the range of 3000 - 4000 horses! No wonder they reach 0-100 in ONE second and 320 in less than 5! Whew! But 600 hp, or 4000 hp, bet they don't pull trailer either! Or plow snow...or... Later, Brew == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:17:26 -0600 From: "Dave Harmier" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Who knows a GOOD Houston area shop for my 92 F-150 5.0??? Mine needs some work! It always starts and gets there, but mileage is down to 10.5 or so! Upon cold start up, seconds later it's like only half the cylinders are working. If I rev for a minute it's better. It has kinda poor part throttle performance too...and intermittent chrck light. I wouldn't EVEN know how to troubleshoot, so I need a GOOD shop that WON'T rake me over the coals (bad time of year eh?) TIA!!! Dave H. dharmier == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:36:28 EST From: ROlson1039 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Who knows a GOOD Houston area shop for my 92 F-150 5.0??? are you machanically inclined?? i could tell you how to check out the computer, but hey if you cant see yourself trying, I wont even try == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:11:25 -0600 From: Neal Osburn Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: Light Stumble >I think that the electrical interference is the problem also. The high >resistance is just proof of cheap wire. I mean, if the resistance is on the >high said it shows that they are more than likely cheap/defective enough to >emit more interence than normal. > >I tried moving them, but in my application they were already within 3" of >the tps and the wires were only long enough (cyls 1&2) to be moved up to 5" >away. Moving them only an additional 2" didn't help. > >I'm just glad the thing is fixed and you can be sure that I will stay away >from chain store brand parts in the future. > >Later, > >David Cole > I'm sorry you missed my original post. Maybe it would have saved you some frustration. Anyway, I'm not sure about the interference call. The one plug wire that I replaced was to the cylinder farthest from the throttle body (#8 I think). Anyway, I would bet it was just a bad wire. The common theme seems to be auto-zone wires. That's the kind I had. Besides, I think the TPS is just a variable resistor. If so, then they aren't usually very sensitive to interference. Neal == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:32:05 -0200 From: John Thornton Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel Tank Switch I have a 93 and to remove the dash panel use these steps: 1) On the light switch knob turn the knob and look for the little slot. 2) Take a little screwdriver and push on metal clip while pulling ( should pull right off) 3) Take small screwdriver and pry the small inserts toward bottom of panel off (mine are silver in color) 4) Remove the screws (I think they are 15 or 20 torx) 5) Panel should pull off now ( rest is held on by push clips) You should be able to get to switch now (hopefully it just needs to be clipped back into place) Hope those can be of help Wrenchman 93 F150 SC 5.0 91 AERO 66 Stang == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:13:37 EST From: CRGREENE1 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel Tank Switch Thanks a lot for all of your help guys....I'll see how it goes! C. Greene == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:08:07 -0600 From: "Chuck" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - is ALDATA any good? I have had mine for about 1.5 years, and its good for all those "didn't know" kind-of-things > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-80-96-list > [mailto:owner-80-96-list > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 11:28 > To: 80-96-list > Subject: FTE 80-96 - is ALDATA any good? > > > doing some x-mas shopping. > > does ALDATA software get technical? or is it like > the multi vehical > books, that covers a decade or more, and the info is > mostly general tech > info? > > ho ho ho > > seacruiser mike > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:26:31 -0800 From: "Matt and Deidre" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble My friend has the 98 Camaro with the vortec 6 cyl, and beat a Neon RT by four car lengths. The RT is supposed to be the fastest Neon made. I believe Dodge quite making the Neon ACR's. The ACR has the same engine as the RT except the computer is set different. Now tell me the same Camaro with a 350 and 300 HP wont out run it! The V8 doesnt weight that much more than a V6. - -----Original Message----- From: Giddens, Scott To: 80-96-list Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 11:52 AM Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble >The HP is not the only consideration. A Camero weighs a lot more than a >Neon. The ratio of HP to weight determines the performance in relationship >to the acceleration. > >My wife's 2.2 L Subaru Legacy Turbo puts out about 180 HP and is very light. >I can walk away from nearly all of the stock V8's with it with very little >effort and I have never really put the foot all the way to the floor. It is >the same reason a Mustang LX 5.0 L will beat a Mustang GT 5.0 L, they >basically have the same motor but the GT has nearly 300 LB of fancy body >work and suspension to slow it down. > >I was once beat off the line by a Do*g* Colt turbo in my Mustang 5.0 L. I >have no idea what was in it but it had the minimum weight required to be >called a car I am sure and a turbo charged 2.3 L motor. If you want to go >fast buy a little car with the biggest turbo charged motor, but I would not >want to be in an accident with one and don't plan on having to drive it very >far or haul anything. > >Scott > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt and Deidre [SMTP:mdaj >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 2:12 PM >> To: 80-96-list >> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble >> >> I have a Neon and I'm part of the neon mailing list. There is no Neon >> that >> will outrun a 300 HP Z28. I'm sorry. Maybe if you put nitrous but then >> again how long can that 2.0 L handle that. P.S. I have all kinds of >> performance parts on my Neon and it would barely outrun my 92 Camaro RS >> with >> the 5.0 L but then again it only had 170 HP. The most HP I've seen out of >> a >> Neon Is 190 HP and you have to send your engine in as a core. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: FLR150 >> To: 80-96-list >> Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 4:33 AM >> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble >> >> >> >Matt, >> >Just for the sake of a dig, they DO make a Neon that will outrun a Z28. I >> >believe its an R Code. It can be ordered straight from the factory ready >> to >> >bolt in a cage and go racing. Little pieces of junk can fly. >> >Wayne Foy >> >'94 F150 Flareside Supercab >> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm >> >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >> >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:43:24 -0600 From: lowland Subject: FTE 80-96 - '95 4x4 front end Hi all, I have a '95 F150 4x4 that developed a fairly strong pull to the right about 4 months ago. The right front tire had excessive wear on the outside edge. Found the r.s. radius arm bushing was bad (converter heat damage) and I replaced it. At that time, I checked the left side radius arm by removing the nut and rear bushing and it looked OK so I didn't replace it. Steering seemed to track straight again. After buying new tires a few days ago the first thing I noticed was that the truck now pulls to the left. Wheel bearings are properly adjusted and brakes don't drag. Steering linkage is in good shape. Should both side's radius bushings have been replaced at the same time even though the left side had very little wear? Or... any other ideas? Thanks, Randy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:57:57 EST From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cured: light throttle stumble OK. Matt I'll make you a deal. If I can find the mag I'll even buy you a copy and mail it to you. It was Super Street magazine, cant remember what issue. But anyway, the article was concerning the Mitsubishi/ Dodge 4 cylinders and the drag races they had (Diamond Star Nationals). The part I was concerned with was the sidebar article comparing a modified Z28 to a modified Eclipse and Neon. The guy with the Camaro spent almost 9k to get his car running consistent 11's. The two 4 bangers didn't even have that much in their cars together and were running that. My only point was to say that though I love American muscle, a professionally tuned 4 cylinder with ANY kind of power adder can smoke the boots of a V8 any day and still get 24-32 mpg. I will try to find that article and mail you a copy of it. I go to the street races every Friday and Saturday night. If you ever get to Atlanta, look me up. I'll take you down there so you can see what the little NOPI cars do to the BIG BAD V8's. I didn't mean to start a war..just trying to make a point. Wayne Foy '94 F150 Flareside Supercab http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/auto/index.htm .... 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