80-96-list-digest Wednesday, December 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 417



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 Pinging/ Results (long)
FTE 80-96 - Won't start
FTE 80-96 - 300 I6 head gasket ?
FTE 80-96 - Another BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT QUESTION FOR 88 BRONCO II
FTE 80-96 - Stupid Question Time...
FTE 80-96 - RE:marine carb
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE:marine carb
FTE 80-96 - Re: Won't Start
FTE 80-96 - Re: 300/6 head gasket
Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 verses grade 8 bolts
FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)
FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles
RE: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles
FTE 80-96 - grade 5 versus grade 8 bolts
RE: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles
Re: Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 verses grade 8 bolts
RE: FTE 80-96 - 300 I6 head gasket ?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Converter stall speed
FTE 80-96 - 351 carb
Re: FTE 80-96 - Another BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT QUESTION FO...
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE:marine carb
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lift Kits ('80-'86 F-150)
FTE 80-96 - What year did pass. mirror go from flat to convex?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Thank You
Re: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:17:41 EST
From: AeroPics aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 Pinging/ Results (long)

In a message dated 12/14/98 7:18:53 PM, Pete wrote:

>I have ordered a new Canister Valve but discovered a 2 part adhesive at
>NAPA that will bond the plastic fitting. Prior to this I had never
>successfully bonded these thermoplastics (Delrin??) but this stuff
>appears to work.
>

Pete,

Could you share the name of this adhesive with the rest of the list?

Ron Slabach
92 F250
Naples, FL
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:51:05 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Won't start

For the guy having the difficulty starting his Ford. I thought of
something else. Long ago I had one of the teeth break off the flywheel on
a farm tractor or something(can't remember exactly), and lodge between two
other teeth on the starter ring of the flywheel. Guess what!!! When the
starter engaged near that tooth, the engine would not turn. I finally
discovered the problem, turned the engine so the lodged tooth was on the
bottom, removed the flywheel cover, took a hammer and an old screwdriver
and dislodged the broken tooth from its temporary home and then the vehicle
started. I never did replace the ring on that flywheel, because there was
enough of a tooth left that it would work. Just another thought.

Good luck

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:41:49 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300 I6 head gasket ?

I am a firm believer in trying the simple fix first. If the leak stops
after the engine warms up and you see no water in the oil I suggest
re-torqueing the head. Re-torqueing the head after break in was a common
procedure in years past but new headgasket design and the desire to reduce
labor has made it uncommon today. It still hurts nothing and may fix your
leak. I think the proper procedure is to back off each head bolt just a bit
to break it loose and then tighten it to proper torque. You do this one
bolt at a time in the proper torqueing sequence.

A tip on checking for water in the oil. Drain your oil into a large clear
glass container, I use a 1 gallon pickle jar, and leave it set for a hour or
more. Then carefully pick it up, without tipping it, and look for water on
the bottom of the oil. You will be able to detect very small leaks. I was
able to catch a leaking manifold gasket on a GM 2.8 V6 very early using this
technique. I found two large drops of water at the bottom of nearly a
gallon of oil.

Good luck,

Larry


Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:01:03 -0600
From: m-sands juno.com (Robert M Sands)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300 I6 head gasket ?

>I have a 92 F150, purchased new. In 1994 the engine was replaced under
warranty. Current engine has right at 36K on it, 69K on the rest. >Noticed
this past weekend antifreeze blown back on tranny (E4OD) and differential.
Antifreeze seems to be leaking from head gasket, only >under cold startup
and then immediately hitting the road. If I let it warm up it doesn't seem
to do it. Also no evidence of leaking after being >driven for a distance. I
probably would not have found it had it not been for me taking it for a
short warm-up before dropping the oil out of it, >and then while crawling
underneath saw evidence of blown back antifreeze. At this point there is no
evidence of anti-freeze in oil.I'm fairly >mechanically inclined , but it
looks as if it may be money well spent to have the dealer do the fix, and I
guess the possibility of a warped head >could exist also. I'm been in the
background for quite a while and have come to respect the opinions / advice
the group on this list has >offered up. So having said that , I'll be
anxiously awaiting any comments / advice.
>Thanks in advance.... Mike Sands

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:43:44 -0500
From: Lynn Krouse
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Another BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT QUESTION FOR 88 BRONCO II

Additional Question: Do all 88 Bronco II's have REAR ANTILOCK brakes?
The book seems to infer this but there is no wiring to the instrument
cluster location where there is supposed to a warning light.


Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:21:56 EST
From: Olivj aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT 88 BRONCO
Driving along at about 25 mph last night both antilock and brake lights came
on at the same time .Brake pedal felt fine afterwards no mushiness .Any ideas
where to start looking for problems ?Please reply direct to me as i am only
on
the digest at the moment .Thanks in advance .

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:25:36 -0700
From: Fred Moreno
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Stupid Question Time...

Hi ya'll,

Something is bugging me;
I am still having hydraulic clutch problem on my 1995 EB 4X4 F150 5.0L
where the system was bleed as per the Ford Service Manual and everything
works just fine...until the next morning.
Twice now the procedures have worked just fine and we got to drive around
running errands etc. Next morning, get in the truck to go to work, depress
the pedal, and little or no pressure the first shift, second shift provides
absolutely no pressure. Yep, there's fluid dripping from the front of the
bell housing (Clutch actuator is inside the housing - thank you Mazda). But
there is also some of the wet stuff on the hydraulic connector where it
enters into the tranny, hhhmmm. Am I not reconnecting it correctly? I pull
and tug on the line after reconnecting it and it feels solid, the surfaces
are clean...I really don't want to pull this tranny out (4X4 truck you know,
no garage or concrete slab, gatta do it in the dirt don't ya know).
Stupid Question: the diaphragm puzzles me because if one tops off the fluid
"to the fill line", and then you place the diaphragm, put the cap on, you
get a mess due to the brake fluid overflowing. Is this correct or am I
missing the boat here? Are you suppose to fold the diaphram or something (
Origami anyone? )? Service manual mentions nothing of the overflow situation
and origami possibility.
Feel free to comment, suggest, but be gentle, I just finished a Bunch of
finals, not much left of my brain.

Fred Moreno
Autotronic Controls Corp - Alternate Fuels Div.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:23:53 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:marine carb

Mike said :

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:18:23 -0500
From: "PmctBaker"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1985 351 owners

does anyone else have a 1985 F150 351 with a marine carb on it? and why is
there a marine carb on it anyway? its all OEM too.
more confused, still need a carb.
mike p.
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Mike,

I've got a 1985 (built in 84) F-150, 4x4 with 351W, 2V carb, 4 sp. Manual.
I've never seen , nor heard of a marine carb on a land engine before. What
leads you to think it is a marine carb, I've seen many on boats before
(Holley and such) and couldn't see any obvious differences. If is a boat
carb, it wasn't installed by Ford as O.E. Walt
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:49:10 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE:marine carb

Posluszny, Walt (POSL) wrote:
>
> Mike said :
>
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:18:23 -0500
> From: "PmctBaker"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1985 351 owners
>
> does anyone else have a 1985 F150 351 with a marine carb on it? and why is
> there a marine carb on it anyway? its all OEM too.
> more confused, still need a carb.
> mike p.
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>
> Mike,
>
> I've got a 1985 (built in 84) F-150, 4x4 with 351W, 2V carb, 4 sp. Manual.
> I've never seen , nor heard of a marine carb on a land engine before. What
> leads you to think it is a marine carb, I've seen many on boats before
> (Holley and such) and couldn't see any obvious differences. If is a boat
> carb, it wasn't installed by Ford as O.E. Walt
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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It may be marine...as i have heard that marine 351 heads are the same as
GT40s and the Lightning 351 uses a marine block! That just change the
names...depends if its by land or by sea! HEHE
Chris
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:45:51 PST
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Won't Start

Well when I get back up there, I will look into getting a new starter.
Will a NAPA starter be ok or do I need a Ford starter? Haven't priced a
Ford starter, not sure if I want to.

Thanks,
Casey

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:49:42 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 300/6 head gasket

Robert, You might be able to get away with "re-tourqing" the head. But, the
air intake will have to be removed. not that hard, most of the stuff
(cables, hoses,wires ) can be left attached loosely or just moved aside.
'bout 6 months ago I did a H/G on one in a Econoline.
A manual is alway the best tool in your box, or a phone book! hehe
Bart-AK

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:44:02 -0500
From: "Norman Maranda"
Subject: Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 verses grade 8 bolts

>Umm...bull. And potential dangerous mis-information.
>Shear loading is what you are calling sideways loads, and the
>shear strength of steel is .75 the tensile strength.
>Grade 5 bolts are rated at 120,000 psi tensile, therefore 90,000 psi in
>shear loading. Grade 8 bolts are minimum 150,000 psi tensile, 112,500 psi
>shear.
>For a bolt of a given cross section size, the grade 8 bolt is stronger, no
>matter what the loading is. Check your Machinery's Handbook or other
>engineering handbook.

>Chuck Skarsaune

Stronger(Grade 8+) bolts are more brittle(less ductile) than weaker
ones (SAE Grade 5). So lower grade bolts will bend yield and strech before
failure where as the stronger bolts will snap very quickly. Also softer bolts
absorb dissipate energy better. A extreem example of this is take a nail put it
in a vice and hit it with a hammer it will bend. Now take a hardened steel
drill blank and do the same the drill blank snaps.
Also it is safer to base bolt tensile allowables off of "Minimum Proof
Strength" (i.e 90% of the 0.2% offset yield strength) and not minimum tensile
strength (i.e max load before bolt fails) for tensile loads and 0.577* minimum
yield strength. So this would mean:

(tensile) (Shear)
Grade 8 120,000 psi 75,000
Grade 5 85,000 psi 53,000



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NAME: Norman J. Maranda Jr.
TITLE: SENIOR STRESS ANALYST
DEPT: D464
E-MAIL ADDRESS: nmaranda gdeb.com
WORK #: (860) 433-1652
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:00:45 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)

I though I'd share this. It _is_ true. Anyway, I'm off work from 16:30
today until January :) WHOOHOO!


At one of the mines I worked at, all the light trucks, 40 tons and less,
were Fords. For one thing, the Ford dealer was friends with the mine
comptroller, for another, he would stock a lot of replacement parts for
us, keeping our inventory down. Anyway, the blaster (all blasters are a
strange lot, anyway) wanted an enclosed vehicle. No, a cap on a pickup
wouldn't do. And it had to be four wheel drive. Well, about the only
thing built at the time that fit the bill was a Chev Suburban. So he got
one. The mechanics hated it, because they had to learn all these
chevrolump idisyncracies. Well, one day they are blasting. You know the
deal. Drill forty
holes, forty feet deep, one foot in diameter. Fill the bottom half of
each hole with anfo, wire it up and Kaboom!

So everyone went a safe distance away. Siren. Kaboom. Siren. Then came
the flyrock. Flyrock is small pieces of rock that, well, fly. Off in
various directions. One of these rocks, about the size of a fist, went
nearly straight up. And came nearly straight down. Right in the middle
of the hood of the blaster's truck.

It went though the hood. It went through the carb. It went through the
cam and finally settled in the now very bent crankshaft. The truck got
towed back to the shop. Shop forman took one look at it. "!^&*^%#$
chevvies, just can't take it."
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Andre
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:12:07 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles

Gang,

I found a web site with all the color codes for the wiring inside the
passenger area of any vehicle. Including the ignition, lighting, and all the
accessories. This can be used to install alarm systems, starter kill
switches, or trouble shoot door locks and anything electrical inside the
vehicle. This address will get you past the login and registration
hopefully. Just type in the make and model and it will give you a list of
cars that match.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.designtech-intl.com:591/designtech/html/FMPro?-db=dti.FP3&-lay=La
yout%20%231&-format=search.htm&-view

Scott

PS: DesignTech sells remote starters, alarms, and remote door locking
devices.
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:25:03 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)

That is funny!

I like the Ch*vy commercial that shows the son borrowing his dads new truck
to do some work and then they show the truck getting filled up with a load
of railroad ties that are dropped from about 15 feet into the bed as the
truck sags down to the ground from the impact. The funny part is at the end
when the kid brings the truck home and the dad asks if that is a scratch on
the bed rail and the kid wipes a smudge off the bed rail and says "nope".

You would have to be pretty stupid to believe an ad like that, but then
there is a sucker born every minute.

Scott

> I though I'd share this. It _is_ true. Anyway, I'm off work from 16:30
> today until January :) WHOOHOO!
>
>
> At one of the mines I worked at, all the light trucks, 40 tons and less,
> were Fords. For one thing, the Ford dealer was friends with the mine
> comptroller, for another, he would stock a lot of replacement parts for
> us, keeping our inventory down. Anyway, the blaster (all blasters are a
> strange lot, anyway) wanted an enclosed vehicle. No, a cap on a pickup
> wouldn't do. And it had to be four wheel drive. Well, about the only
> thing built at the time that fit the bill was a Chev Suburban. So he got
> one. The mechanics hated it, because they had to learn all these
> chevrolump idisyncracies. Well, one day they are blasting. You know the
> deal. Drill forty
> holes, forty feet deep, one foot in diameter. Fill the bottom half of
> each hole with anfo, wire it up and Kaboom!
>
> So everyone went a safe distance away. Siren. Kaboom. Siren. Then came
> the flyrock. Flyrock is small pieces of rock that, well, fly. Off in
> various directions. One of these rocks, about the size of a fist, went
> nearly straight up. And came nearly straight down. Right in the middle
> of the hood of the blaster's truck.
>
> It went though the hood. It went through the carb. It went through the
> cam and finally settled in the now very bent crankshaft. The truck got
> towed back to the shop. Shop forman took one look at it. "!^&*^%#$
> chevvies, just can't take it."
> --
> Andre
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:16:41 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)

Nothing quite like finding your target market and catering to them! No
wonder there's so many Ch*vies around. (not necessarily on the road, but
they're around...)
;-)

- -Mike

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From: Giddens, Scott
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)


That is funny!


*snip*


You would have to be pretty stupid to believe an ad like that, but then
there is a sucker born every minute.


Scott


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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:44:52 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles

Nice try Scott. I tried to go to that site via AOL and no go. I have the
Internet Explorer 3.0 also and no go. Can you tell us any other way to get
there?
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 aol.com
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:18:14 -0500
From: Ben Havens
Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 versus grade 8 bolts

>Date: 14 Dec 98 08:59:46 EST
>From: CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 verses grade 8 bolts
>
>>Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:44:22 -0800
>>From: bob chaytor
>>Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 verses grade 8 bolts
>
>>Grade 8 bolts have a higher tensile strength which is the ability to
>>resist being pulled apart. They are used when something needs to be
>>torque like a head bolt. The forces are trying to pull it apart.
>>Grade 5 bolts are actually tougher when it comes to sideways loads and
>>in most applications are the better choice . Unless it is a straight
>>pull use grade 5
>
>Umm...bull. And potential dangerous mis-information.
>Shear loading is what you are calling sideways loads, and the
>shear strength of steel is .75 the tensile strength.
>Grade 5 bolts are rated at 120,000 psi tensile, therefore 90,000 psi in
>shear loading. Grade 8 bolts are minimum 150,000 psi tensile, 112,500 psi
>shear.
>For a bolt of a given cross section size, the grade 8 bolt is stronger, no
>matter what the loading is. Check your Machinery's Handbook or other
>engineering handbook.

>
>Chuck Skarsaune


This is not the first time I have read that grade 5 is better at "shear
loading." There was much discussion (most of it probably over my head) on
the
Off-Road mailing list some time ago about this very subject. IIRC, the
grade 8 will hold longer than the 5, but the 5 will deform before it goes
whereas the 8 will just snap. Grade 5 is more suitable for bumpers,
winches, etc. where the load is not straight-on.
I am not an engineer, just repeating what I heard/read (many times over), so
please don't hurt me too bad... :-)

Ben
'94 Bronco



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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:39:10 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles

Wayne,

Here is the front door:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.designtech-intl.com

The first post I made inserted a return and put it on a new line and you
would have to copy and paste both lines into your browser to get it to work.

Scott

> Nice try Scott. I tried to go to that site via AOL and no go. I have the
> Internet Explorer 3.0 also and no go. Can you tell us any other way to get
> there?
> Wayne Foy
> '94 F150 aol.com
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:51:10 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cab Wiring Information for all Vehicles

I'll eat my crow now. The I.E. 3.0 didn't take all the info for the site in so
it dint find it. When I typed it in manually it went right to it. That's WAY
cool Scott. Thanks for that. It'll come in handy for other vehicles I work on
too.
This type of thing is why I am a member of this list. The knowledge I have
gained from talking between ourselves and neat little tidbits like this make
all the typing and reading worthwhile.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:55:42 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: Subject: FTE 80-96 - grade 5 verses grade 8 bolts

In a message dated 12/15/98 10:59:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, eglu gdeb.com
writes:

> -
> NAME: Norman J. Maranda Jr.
> TITLE: SENIOR STRESS ANALYST
> DEPT: D464
> E-MAIL ADDRESS: nmaranda gdeb.com
> WORK #: (860) 433-1652
>
Norman,
I assume that you see a lot of STRESS at work? Lol! On a serious note:
Thanks for the information on what I had always thought to be true with
hardened bolts, but never had the facts to back up. Very good!
D baken
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:18:55 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 300 I6 head gasket ?

Mike-
If you can get a shop manual (I recommend the factory book, not a cheap
knock-off) you can do this yourself. See what the shop wants to do this. If
you plan to keep the truck, replace the gasket. If you think you will sell
it soon, just pull the valve cover and retorque all the head bolts! (A
quick-fix.)

You asked if head is warped. Possible. Has it been overheated ever since
new engine went in? If not, I doubt it. Just replace the gasket and drive it!

Jim

Mike Sands wrote:
"I have a 92 F150, purchased new. In 1994 the engine was replaced under
warranty. Current engine has right at 36K on it, 69K on the rest. Noticed
this past weekend antifreeze blown back on tranny (E4OD) and
differential. Antifreeze seems to be leaking from head gasket, only under
cold startup and then immediately hitting the road. If I let it warm up
it doesn't seem to do it. Also no evidence of leaking after being driven
for a distance. I probably would not have found it had it not been for me
taking it for a short warm-up before dropping the oil out of it, and then
while crawling underneath saw evidence of blown back antifreeze. At this
point there is no evidence of anti-freeze in oil.I'm fairly mechanically
inclined , but it looks as if it may be money well spent to have the
dealer do the fix, and I guess the possibility of a warped head could
exist also. I'm been in the background for quite a while and have come
to respect the opinions / advice the group on this list has offered up.
So having said that , I'll be anxiously awaiting any comments / advice.
Thanks in advance.... Mike Sands"

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton
'63 Buick Riviera
'80 Ford F-150
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:45:44 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Converter stall speed

Wayne:

Does around 2000 rpm sound about right?

Mike

michael redden enter.net

> If all of the specs I sent him are dead on, this is what I should have. I
> think I need to check into a higher stall convertor now....what do you
guys
> think?
> Wayne Foy
> '94 F150 Flareside Supercab

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:43:01 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 351 carb

Mike:

My '85 351W "HO" has a Holley which now needs replacing :>(
thanks to my carelessness. I managed to put a crack in the housing
(don't ask!)... Aluminum DOES get brittle after almost fifteen years :

I ordered a new one through a friends shop (no sales tax, deep discount).
I'll let you know how it works. I pick it up tomorrow. $235.

Mike

michael redden enter.net
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:18:16 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Another BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT QUESTION FO...

In my '91 Explorer there was an anti-lock brake sensor that went bad(along
with everything else on that piece of crap!)Your mechanic should be able to
replace it no prob
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:22:04 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE:marine carb

what makes the marine stuff so much different?
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:12:47 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lift Kits ('80-'86 F-150)

The TTB(Twin Traction Beam) is very sensitive to lifts especially in the
steering area but is still cheaper than GM's IFS. The TTB is also proven
itself to be more durable in IFS, but does have not have any advantages in
handling on the street compared to IFS. For the cash go for the 4" lift. You
can get 2"-3" out of a body lift(about $100) also. A suspension lift is much
more suitable for off-roading though, in some cases it can even improve the
highway/street ride. A 4" lift is good for 33x12.5x15 tires
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:25:51 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: FTE 80-96 - What year did pass. mirror go from flat to convex?

Maybe someone can save me some time hunting in the junkyard this weekend. I
cracked my outside mirror on the passenger side of my 1980 F-150. I have
been wanting to replace this original flat mirror with a curved one like
they put on later models. I plan to just replace the entire mirror unit
(bracket, mirror head, etc.) What year did this convex mirror first come
out? '84? '85?
Thanks!
Jim Cannon
Houston, TX
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton
'63 Buick Riviera
'80 Ford F-150
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:51:45 -0800
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Thank You

IMHO putting a snow plow on an f-150 is crazy i have seen what a plow did to
an f-superduty/f-450 and it was not a pretty site
evan
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From: Scottie Schmidt
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 1:54 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Thank You


>Hi, First I would like to thankyou all for all of the info you gave me
>on bedsizes, and a snow plowing truck, and a farm truck. Well just to
>update you, my grandfather has decided to get a F-150 4x4 :-((
>I just sent him a message 4k long stating messages you guys sent to me
>plus my own input on why he should get a F-250. I keep telling him he
>will have good power and tons of other stuff, but he says a F-150 will
>do for him. He would rather get a newer truck with lower miles, and
>this truck will have this.
> He will not be able to get his truck till spring though. The reason
>is his car will not sell right now since it is so close to Christmas.
> If you don't mind I would like to add a small classified ad.
> Wanted:
> 92 or newer F-150 4x4
> automatic
> low milage
> tow package
> possibly snow plow
> under $13,000
> For Sale:
> Honda Accord 4 dr.
> Low milage
> tinted windows
> full power
> I believe it is about $14,500 or best offer
> If interested call 610-358-3682 (will be moving on Fri.)
>Scottie Schmidt
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:59:05 -0800
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Like a rock (ha!)

the funny thing about chevy's you always see them looking pretty but when
you go into the bush or the job site or anywhere a tough truck is needed all
you see is fords
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From: Michael J. Pasznik, Jr.....


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