80-96-list-digest Wednesday, December 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 410



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip
FTE 80-96 - BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT 88 BRONCO
Re: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?
FTE 80-96 - Clicking relay in "Start"
FTE 80-96 - 1997 F250HD Front axle alignment
Re: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?
FTE 80-96 - RE: snow&ice recommendations?
RE: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?
FTE 80-96 - Bed sizes
FTE 80-96 - 16" Wheels
FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine
FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recomendations
RE: FTE 80-96 - Doors?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recomendations
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: disapointed
FTE 80-96 - NEW TO THE GROUP
FTE 80-96 - Casey's Starting Problem
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recommendations
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 400 dollar dodge
Re: FTE 80-96 - NEW TO THE GROUP
FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and Ice Recomendations
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recomendations
FTE 80-96 - Re: no reply + 6' vs. 8'
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: no reply + 6' vs. 8'
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and Ice Recomendations
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip
FTE 80-96 - Re: snow & ice recomends

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:14:47 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip

I just want everyone on the list to know that I am in no way a representative
for Superchips,Inc, but rather a very satisfied customer. I have had a very
good personal experience with this chip company and some GREAT performance
gains from my purchase. And the best part about this chip versus the ADS or
Hypertech chips, is that the Superchip is
1. Not a set program. Anytime you upgrade your engine components, put in a
shift kit, or just want to tune it to utilize all that you already have, you
can send it back to Superchips with a list of your mods, and they will upgrade
the program to include all that you have done.
2. Its LIFETIME guaranteed. If you ever have a problem with your truck or car
and it can be proven to be caused by their chip (not by the extra heavy foot
caused by the gains you feel) they will pay for the repairs, and give you a
new chip, no questions asked.
3. They have so many dealers that have dynos around the country now that you
can actually go purchase the chip and they can show you your performance gains
right there, on the dyno, so that you can have hard data, not based on the
manufacturers hype.
With my truck, I showed over a SECOND gain in the 1/4 and about 2-3 mpg city
improvement. I am one of those that watches all of his improvements and
upgrades carefully and chooses which to use only after seeing it in place. Let
me tell you that this little chip was the best $200 I ever spent on my truck.
Take it for what its worth,
Wayne Foy
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/auto/index.htm
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:21:56 EST
From: Olivj aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - BRAKE WARNING LIGHT +REAR ANTI-LOCK LIGHT 88 BRONCO

Driving along at about 25 mph last night both antilock and brake lights came
on at the same time .Brake pedal felt fine afterwards no mushiness .Any ideas
where to start looking for problems ?Please reply direct to me as i am only on
the digest at the moment .Thanks in advance .
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:32:06 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Huse"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?

In Norway, almost all cars are sold with 8 tires, separate for summer
and winter. Siping truck tires will help, but skinny/tall tires is
preferred. Tires guaranteed for 60.000 miles have too hard rubber to be
really good in winter, especially at two or more years old...
My E-250 7.3 has 215 SR 16 studded General tires, and is marginal.
Living in coastal Norway means lots of iced pavement / packed white
stuff where we trust studded tires. For inland climates, studless tires
may be good enough. Winter tires is a good insurance. It only takes an
hour or so to change over, so what the heck. I often swap back and forth
a few times early and late in the season.
Our previous 2WD Dodge Ram Pickup (sorry) required a half-ton I-beam in
the bed to be moderately good...
- -- =

Bj=F8rnar Huse
=C5lesund, Norway
Tel. +47 92 45 01 56 =

Fax. +47 70 10 24 31
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:42:34 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Clicking relay in "Start"

Casey writes: >>The soleniod will repetiviely click with
the key held in start.

Low voltage at the relay. Most probably dead battery.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:09:21 -0800
From: "Shivers, Bret"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1997 F250HD Front axle alignment

Recently I noticed that while looking at the front of my truck, the drivers
side tire appeared to stick out past the fender while the passenger side
tire was under the fender. I took a straight 1x2 board and held it
vertically against the top and bottom of the tire on the driver side and it
just touched the trim on the fender, doing the same on the passenger side
the board touched the bottom of the tire and the trim and there was a gap
between the top of the tire and the board of about 1.25 inches. The dealer (
where purchased ) has it now and my service advisor said one of the
technicians has seen this on trucks right off of the assembly line,
something about the cab and bed are not set on the frame correctly?? Didn't
sound like they were going to do anything about it. Waiting to hear from
them today.

Has anyone ever seen this? What was done about it or can anything be done
about it?

I got the truck new 9/97 it now has 30,500 miles on it, The same dealer
replaced the front springs at around 19K miles when I requested the TSB for
the 3rd leaf be added but they said they couldn't align it then.
So the new "improved" 2 leaf springs went on. The original tires are still
on it with decent tire wear.

Thanks in advance,
Bret

FYI, I just had it in for loss of power and they put in a new turbo under
warranty, They couldn't tell me what was wrong, just that it failed the
diagnostics...
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:37:12 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?

Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is siping? My guess is that since
I've never heard of it, I'll never need to have it done, but it can't hurt
to have the knowledge.

- -Mike

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bob Kennedy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?


Siping helps, it removes more of the tread. The only draw back to this one
is if
you are on the hard top more often than not, you may be accelerating wear.

If it's only a foul weather thing, you may want to consider a second set of
tires.

Bob


Nathaniel Ingersoll wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I've got a '97 F350CC4x4PS (yada yada) which did fine last year, but for
> whatever reason, this year it is having some traction problems...
>
> Right now, I've got 33x12.5 16.5 tires (on 9.75" rims) which are a pretty
> big block tread design; traction's fine as long as there's at least a
little
> bit of the fluffy white stuff on top of whatever's slick. However, when I
> find pure hard-pack or ice, the beast will barely move.
>
> Local tire shop (I _have not_ yet shopped around - this place is right
next
> door to where I work so I dropped in there for a gander) suggests one of
the
> following:
> - sipe the tires; ~$40 total, expect some more traction
> - get these walnut shell tires plus studs; they've got 9.5" tires
> for the 16.5; total about $400
> - get some spare 16" rims ($200?) and tall-skinny tires for those,
> probably studded (about $700 total)
>
> Anybody have experience with the siping? I could try it ($40, what the
> heck) and see. Any experience with the walnut shells? Pros vs cons of
the
> studs? Suggestions? Flames?
> Thanks.
>
> N. Ingersoll
> mailto:ningersoll packetengines.com
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:03:29 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: snow&ice recommendations?

You are suffering from "mud tire" syndrome. Those big smooth blocks work
like skates. Good in mud and loose snow but terrible on hard stuff. BTDT I
have not tried siping but the concept looks very good. For the price I
would try it. The companies I've looked at claim siping actually will
increase tread life. Personally I went with an AT tire with lots of cuts
across the blocks, on my PSD 4x4, to act like siping.

Walnut shells and studs should make killer packed snow and ice tires.
Walnut shells were popular in the late 50s and 60s. They worked very well
but had short tread life. Studs also work well but are illegal in many
states. You wouldn't want to run these in the summer. If you've got the
cash put these on a spare set of wheels.

Larry




Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:06:11 -0800
From: Nathaniel Ingersoll
>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?

Hello all.
I've got a '97 F350CC4x4PS (yada yada) which did fine last year, but for
whatever reason, this year it is having some traction problems...
Right now, I've got 33x12.5 16.5 tires (on 9.75"
rims) which are a pretty big block tread design; traction's fine as long as
there's at least a little bit of the fluffy white stuff on top of whatever's
slick. However, when I find pure hard-pack or ice, the beast will barely
move.
Local tire shop (I _have not_ yet shopped around - this place is right next
door to where I work so I dropped in there for a gander) suggests one of the
following:
* sipe the tires; ~$40 total, expect some more traction
* get these walnut shell tires plus studs; they've got 9.5" tires for
the 16.5; total about $400
* get some spare 16" rims ($200?) and tall-skinny tires for those,
probably studded (about $700 total)

Anybody have experience with the siping? I could try it ($40, what the
heck) and see. Any experience with the walnut shells? Pros vs cons of the
studs? Suggestions? Flames?
Thanks.
N. Ingersoll
mailto:ningersoll packetengines.com
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:03:53 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - snow&ice recommendations?

Mike,

The tire dealer takes a razor or something and slices your tires across the
tread, side to side about 1/4 to 1/2 inch apart.
It sounds worse than it is but when I first saw it I thought the tire was
vandalized or something. I think my tires work just fine without it and I
will wait to see how well it is received by the manufacturers. Anyone know?

Scott

> Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is siping? My guess is that since
> I've never heard of it, I'll never need to have it done, but it can't hurt
> to have the knowledge.
>
> -Mike
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:24:00 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bed sizes

Scottie inquires about differences in bed sizes:

I got a reply stating that their is not any size difference
between 4x4's and regular.

Correct. Bed size is determined in part by the short or long flareside or
styleside preference. A 4X4 configured same as a 2X4 will have the same
beds F150 thru F350.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:36:55 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 16" Wheels

Nathaniel writes: >>get some spare 16" rims ($200?)

I bought two brand new 16" Bud style wheels last year for a truck I was
working on for $50.00 Each.
It is a dual wheel 1976 F350 farm truck. The pickup style wheels should
run $15-25 at tire/wheel stores - used-new.
You need to shop around a bit, I think.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:46:25 -0500
From: "Robert E. Tyler"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine

A couple of weeks ago I posted a message sub: cam problems, and so far no
response, I'll try once more. I rebuilt the 5.0 EFI motor in my '92 F150
4X4 as a result of losing nbr. 2 piston (after 89K miles). the cylinders
had to bored to .030 because of scoring of nbr. 2 (all other cylinders
showed only normal wear.), new pistons, standard head job, ie, normal
rebuild procedures. I installed a Ford Motorsport E303 cam and a mass air
system after consulting with the SVO technicians. I followed what I
believed to be all the right procedures, including shiming the rockers,
changing the firing order, but obviously, I have skipped something. The
problem is with the idle. It will not idle on its own when cold and idles
rough when at normal running temp and seems to lack the power one would
expect from a new engine with these mods. If any of you good folks out
there in Ford land has any suggestions or knows of anyone who can give
advice , I would greatly appreciate any kind words of wistom. You may Email
me at rtyler csonline.net. Thanks, robert.

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:30:54 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine

"Robert E. Tyler" wrote:
>
> A couple of weeks ago I posted a message sub: cam problems, and so far no
> response, I'll try once more. I rebuilt the 5.0 EFI motor in my '92 F150
> 4X4 as a result of losing nbr. 2 piston (after 89K miles). the cylinders
> had to bored to .030 because of scoring of nbr. 2 (all other cylinders
> showed only normal wear.), new pistons, standard head job, ie, normal
> rebuild procedures. I installed a Ford Motorsport E303 cam and a mass air
> system after consulting with the SVO technicians. I followed what I
> believed to be all the right procedures, including shiming the rockers,
> changing the firing order, .....
>
Not to sound ignorant or anything, but .... When you daid changing the
firing order, did you do it for both the injectors and the ignition?

Sometimes it's the way too obvious that get overlooked. Like the time I
couldn't get the car to start. Paniced a bit, then DOH!!!! It was in
Drive.


- --
Andre
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:27:36 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine

Sounds like the Idle Air Control sensor is out of adjustment or is bad. Could
also possibly be the Massair sensor sampling tube is clogged. Or for one more
to check it could be a vacuum line of or cracked/vaccuum module could be bad.
Just trying to help,
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:19:28 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine

Robert E. Tyler wrote:

> problem is with the idle. It will not idle on its own when cold and idles
> rough when at normal running temp and seems to lack the power one would
> expect from a new engine with these mods. If any of you good folks out
> there in Ford land has any suggestions or knows of anyone who can give
> advice , I would greatly appreciate any kind words of wistom. You may Email
> me at rtyler csonline.net. Thanks, robert.

EFI right ?

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:28:58 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine

Robert E. Tyler wrote:

> problem is with the idle. It will not idle on its own when cold and idles
> rough when at normal running temp and seems to lack the power one would
> expect from a new engine with these mods. If any of you good folks out
> there in Ford land has any suggestions or knows of anyone who can give
> advice , I would greatly appreciate any kind words of wistom. You may Email
> me at rtyler csonline.net. Thanks, robert.

Rob,
If taking it that the firing order is all correct, and ofcourse the
timing, and if it were a carb then I would have to say it was a
vacuum leak somewhere. But yours is EFI. What on the EFI
is controlling vacuum ? Hoses ? Sensors ? Yes, I to have a
92' Mustang 5.0L with 71K on it, but have had no problems
with it. So I know I need to start learning this EFI stuff too.
Just trying to start a thinking process going.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:40:45 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle problems with new engine

> Robert E. Tyler wrote:
>
> > problem is with the idle. It will not idle on its own when cold and idles
> > rough when at normal running temp and seems to lack the power one would
> > expect from a new engine with these mods. If any of you good folks out
> > there in Ford land has any suggestions or knows of anyone who can give
> > advice , I would greatly appreciate any kind words of wistom. You may Email
> > me at rtyler csonline.net. Thanks, robert.

If I already sent this please forgive me. I'm not having a good
day today. :-(

Rob,
If I take it that the firing order is all okay, and ofcourse the
timing, if it were a carb I would say a vacuum leak
somewhere. Since you have EFI. What controls the vacuum ?
Hoses ? Sensors ? Yes, I too have a '92 Mustang 5.0L with
71K on it, but have had no problems. I too am going to have
to learn this EFI stuff. Just trying to get a thinking process
going.
- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:08:21 PST
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recomendations

I bit the bullet and bought new wheels and 235/85 16E cooper stt
studded. THese have no problem on ice (as long as you aren;t TRYING to
have a problem) and they will get anywhere in the snow and mud. (at
least when the thruck ran.

Bad news... I have decided that my Ford is too expensive to maintain and
I am going to have to get rid of it when I come back up next semester
for school. I hate to do it, but every time I turn around the thing
breaks on me (and believe me, I take care of this truck, comapared to my
old dodge that we beat on and beat on, yet it never breaks.) Maybe
someday I can afford a new Ford, but until then I am going to settle for
a 400 dollar dodge.

Thanks,
Casey

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:54:52 -0600
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Doors?

- ->-----Original Message-----
- -From: Randy [mailto:runawaykid ncweb.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 1:59 AM
- -To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
- -Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Doors?


- -Just a note here:
- -The doors are the same for all those years, but the beds have a slight
- -difference. It's the same reason the fenders don't work. They should
- -physically bolt onto the truck, but the flares around the wheel wells
- -are different. The 80-86's have about a 3" 'depression' the matches

I don't think anyone will ever notice, but on my truck the bed is from
an 89 and my truck is an 85. Maybe once I paint it and the red cab/white
bed difference goes away the subtle body line change will get noticed
more. I don't particularly care how the truck looks so long as it runs
reliably.

- -the shape of the wheel well. The 87-96's don't have that depression
- -and in fact flare-out at the tops of the wells. But as said, the
- -doors are not affected by this change and should work just fine. As
- -for the wiring, I don't think it exists going into the doors (doesn't
- -on my manual window/lock '87), but it may exist under the dash, check

I looked last night and couldn't find any wiring going to the doors from
the fusebox. I think I could probably make it work though. The spot on
the fuse box is there so that makes it a little easier. The hard part
would be getting the wiring right to go from the driver side to the
passenger side.

- -the fuse box and see if you have the slots for the fuses for the power
- -accesories, but obviously there'd be no fuses in them, but you could
- -look to see if the metal tabs exist for holding in the fuse and use a
- -multi-tester or test light to see if one side is hot.

Haven't done that part yet. The guy only wants $35 for the pair of
doors so I think I'll get them just to see if I can make it work :-)

Thanks.


- -Later,
- -Brew

ROlson1039 aol.com wrote:
>
> the doors will fit from i think 1980 -1995 although there might
be slight
> differences in trim...Where i work we have all different year F series
trucks
> and when we mothball them we take body parts from different years and
patch em
> up. doors and beds should interchange the problem is with fenders and
grilles
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 14:27:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recomendations

>Bad news... I have decided that my Ford is too expensive to maintain and
>I am going to have to get rid of it when I come back up next semester
>for school. I hate to do it, but every time I turn around the thing
>breaks on me (and believe me, I take care of this truck, comapared to my
>old dodge that we beat on and beat on, yet it never breaks.) Maybe
>someday I can afford a new Ford, but until then I am going to settle for
>a 400 dollar dodge.
>

Before I knew better, I owned a Dodge. Here's a list of
what was done to it in a two year period:

1. 318 V8 was rebuilt
2. Transmission rebuilt twice
3. Replaced voltage regulator
4. Replaced ignition switch
5. Replaced rear brake hardware (all of it)
6. Had the frame welded (it cracked)
7. Replace broken left coil spring (yes, broken, a minor speed bump
hit at 25 mph instead of 10 mph snapped it)
8. Replaced ***all*** the under dash wiring after it caught fire
9. Replaced the radiator
10. Replaced the alternator
11. Replaced the radio when it gave up the ghost
12. Replaced 2 bed mounts

This doesn't include the list of numerous minor things that
happened (such as both windows breaking the gearing).

Dodge trucks are the worst pieces of junk on the face of the
planet. I'd drive a rice-burner before I own another Dodge.
I finally gave up on that heap and gave it to my brother in
law (I didn't like him very much at the time!).

There's a big reason why Dodge has always been #3.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:38:01 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: disapointed

hey dissapointed, dont try to get to technical on us, Im only 17 but can still
spell buddy!
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:06:49 -0700
From: "Ellsworth, Sam"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - NEW TO THE GROUP

HELLO GROUP,
I AM NEW TO THIS LIST, JUST THOUGHT I WOULD INTRODUCE MYSELF HERE.
MY NAME IS SAM ELLSWORTH, I LIVE IN UTAH, I WAS RAISED IN THE CHEV
FAMILY AND CONVERTED TO FORD AS SOON AS I COULD. I AM A MEMBER OF THE
FALCON DIGEST GROUP ALSO, I HAVE A 69 FALCON WITH 80,OOO ON IT. I HAVE
LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THESE DIGESTS. I FINALLY FOUND ONE FOR MY TRUCK
ALSO.
MY TRUCK IS AN 88 MODEL F-140 WITH THE MAZDA 5-SPEED TRANNY AND A 302
MOTOR. IT IS AN XLT MODEL AND HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD TO ME SINCE I BOUGHT
IT IN 1994. I HAVE 33" TIRES ON IT AND HAVE DONE ALL THE WORK ON IT THAT
I CAN. I HAVE REPLACED THE CLUTCH AND BY DEFAULT GONE THROUGH THE AXLE
AND INSTALLED AN AUBURN LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL IN ALSO. RIGHT NOW THE
FRONT TANK PUMP IS NOT WORKING AND MY BOY AND I WENT TO THE STORE THE
OTHER DAY AND THE KEY SWITCH WENT OUT. I AM TOLD THAT IT IS THE
ACTUATOR. .I COULD JUMP THE STARTER RELAY AND GET HOME OK, BUT I NEED TO
GET IT FIXED SOON (AS TIME WILL PERMIT IN THIS BUSY SEASON)
I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE GROUP, I AM LOOKING AT LIFT KITS FOR MY
TRUCK AND AM LOOKING FOR ADVICE ON WHICH ONE AS FAR AS COST AND QUALITY
GO. I OUT A 2" FROM TUFF COUNTRY ON A 84 BRONCO THAT I HAD AND WAS NOT
IMPRESSED WITH THE TWO BOLTS WITH THE HEADS WELDED TOGETHER FOR THE
BLOCKS IN THE FRONT.
WELL, THAT IS ALL FOR NOW, SINCE I HAVE BORED YOU TO SLEEP. I HOPE TO
HAVE AS MUCH FUN IN THIS GROUP AS IN THE FALCON DIGEST.
SAM ELLSWORTH
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:21:49 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Casey's Starting Problem

Casey,
Did you get this last starting problem fixed ?
You gotta admit. Before long you'll have an 1999
truck in an older body. :-) Sorry to hear about your
latest decision. Now your going to have to start all
over on a truck you don't even know. Also your
going to have to try and find a Dodge club. Cause
your sure to have problems for $400.00. Well, I'm
not REALLY trying to make you feel bad, just maybe
think twice about it, if you havn't done anything rash
YET. If so then I wish you all the luck with school. :-)
Wait a minute when you graduate and get a good job
you'll be able to afford a brand new Ford Pick'em up
truck or a bronco you'll have money to tinker with. :-)
Okay, I feel better now. :-)
- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:33:39 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recommendations

Casey,

What are you going to do with the rest of the money you get out of your
Ford? Fix the Dodge?

Scott


> Bad news... I have decided that my Ford is too expensive to maintain and
> I am going to have to get rid of it when I come back up next semester
> for school. I hate to do it, but every time I turn around the thing
> breaks on me (and believe me, I take care of this truck, comapared to my
> old dodge that we beat on and beat on, yet it never breaks.) Maybe
> someday I can afford a new Ford, but until then I am going to settle for
> a 400 dollar dodge.
>
> Thanks,
> Casey
>
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:42:08 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 400 dollar dodge

Casey:

I just came back from doing a job for a guy with a '98 Dodge "Ram Tuff"
truck with 38K miles. He has gone through three transmissions already.
Needless to say, he is selling the truck.
I did put over 200K miles on a 1972 D**ge D100 slant six, but that's
beside the point! I was lucky. I see many, many more old Ford trucks
around here than any other brand, still being used for work.
A couple years ago I bought a '71 F-250. Cost: $100. Ran and hauled great.

Rusted out bed so I stripped it for parts (should have made
a flat bed out if it!)

Good luck, all kidding aside!

Mike

michael redden enter.net

>Maybe someday I can afford a new Ford, but until then
>I am going to settle for
> a 400 dollar dodge.
>
> Thanks,
> Casey

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:48:30 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - NEW TO THE GROUP

Sam,
Welcome to the group. Trust me we have just as much fun on this group as any
other and the sarcasm runs freely here. So to be forewarned is forearmed.
Again, welcome and enjoy
Wayne Foy
Flr150 aol.com
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:15:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and Ice Recomendations

I have a '90 F-250 4X4. Right now I am running 235 85R16's. They have a
fairly aggressive tread design and studs. They basically act like claws
on snow and Ice. Also work well off-road. They are relatively narrow
compared to your tires, which probably also helps some. I don't know for
sure, but I think sniping reduces tread life. If you don't mind shelling
out the $700, the studs will work best.

Randy Werth
'90 F-250 4X4


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:17:12 -0500
From: "Christopher Maher"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and ICe recomendations

You must mean a Didge. As in, Didge you ever see such an ugly truck?
Christopher T. Maher

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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:35:50 PST
From: "Scottie Schmidt"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: no reply + 6' vs. 8'

Thanks for replying!!
Are you saying their is no difference between 150's to 550's??
The shortbed is 6.5 ft. and the longbed is 8 ft.??? Is that the only
bed sizes for trucks??
Scottie

ok well ill reply to you
the difference between the F150 , F250, F350 etcf are the suspensions
and the
mgw
the 150 is a half tom mgw, 250 is a three quarter ton , 350 is a ton
etc.. the
450 and 550 are new models this year and are commercial use
there is a 6.5 foot ( short bed) and an 8foot (longbed)
the rangers have a 6 and eight foor bed but they have a small cargo
capacity
thats all the differences
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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 09:33:13 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 6' vs. 8'

Slow down there Brew. your saying is catchy. true for the most part (
can't
replace the 2'). but I do disagree to apoint with it.
I t seems you can buy a truck for any kinda job these days that is why
there is so many types ( half ton, three quarter ton long, short etc.)
you can haul plywood with a FSeries or chase the opposite sex on the
strip
with an FSeries. (shorty)
Then there are those that can do multiple jobs, like my 81 xlt stepside,
I
can pull three snowmachines and one in the back (can't close gate
because
it's a long track) which translates to about 2400lbs (full of fuel). the
best thing, the darn thing doesnot squat at all and it only has a Stang
5.0
(carb) in it!
Is it cheating to make a "looker" run/haul with the big-dogs?????????
Bart-AK

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:55:56 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: no reply + 6' vs. 8'

what i said was that the difference between the 150s and up to 550s is the
suspension and weight capacity that they can tow or haul the heavier their
capacities, Naturally the heavier the suspension. And yes its either or bed
6.5 foot or 8 foot
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:46:16 EST
From: GLMPILOT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip

95 i6 with a 5 speed do they make a chip for that and is it worth it?
Dwayne Jackson
so.cal.dez
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:59:22 -0700
From: "Brian Soderblom"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Snow and Ice Recomendations

Whether or not it's true, I'm not certain, but the places I've talked to
about siping (three or four different places) all say it increases tread
life. Claims were from 25% to 50% increased life.

Brian

> compared to your tires, which probably also helps some. I don't know for
> sure, but I think sniping reduces tread life. If you don't mind shelling
> out the $700, the studs will work best.

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 00:30:02 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip

Dwayne
All I can tell you is to visit www.superchips.com and email the question to
their sales dept. I would assume that they do have a chip for that application
being as they have one for almost anything with 4 wheels and a computer in it.
These guys are one of the pioneers in the electronic tuning side of the
performance industry. Try them out. They also have a 30day money back return
policy if you aren't satisfied and a lifetime warranty against defects, so
what have you got to lose? Nothing except your time!
Wayne Foy
FLR150 aol.com
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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From: DJ250r aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Superchip....


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