80-96-list-digest Wednesday, December 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 403



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - BLOWBY AND FUEL FILTER
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Classics4sale
FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
FTE 80-96 - Re: light throttle stumble
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement
RE: FTE 80-96 - White smoke/antifreeze odor
FTE 80-96 - White gunk in oil filler cap
FTE 80-96 - sludge
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement
FTE 80-96 - WTB: Throttle Body Pin For 86 BII
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - WTB: Throttle Body Pin For 86 BII
RE: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement
Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - BLOWBY AND FUEL FILTER
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: light throttle stumble
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
RE: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
FTE 80-96 - F250 4x4 camber problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
RE: FTE 80-96 - F250 4x4 camber problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - White smoke/antifreeze odor
Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit
RE: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement
FTE 80-96 - Re: Body lift
Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - F250 4x4 camber problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
FTE 80-96 - door hinge
FTE 80-96 - Re: Why is my brothers GMC 350 way faster...
Re: FTE 80-96 - door hinge
Re: FTE 80-96 - door hinge
Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - door hinge
Re: FTE 80-96 - WTB: Throttle Body Pin For 86 BII
FTE 80-96 - door hinge
Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:34:27 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - BLOWBY AND FUEL FILTER

Hey Bob,
Dont mess with that black canister. I did once and the rubber seal broke in
half and i had to go to ford to get another. you should have a silver canister
inline fuel filter. check again. Its got to be there if you have fuel
injection. it should have a clamp around it , holding it in place. you pull
out the plastic tabs on each end then take the lines off. (be careful not to
get fuel in your eyes) put a rag over it while doing it.as far as the blowby
goes, I cant help you there. sorry.

Joe
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 07:02:14 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Classics4sale

Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members:

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If you use their services or enjoy their site, we would like to
you to let them know you heard about them via Ford Truck Enthusiasts.

Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program...

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:15:19 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

I have a quick question for all of you to reply on. I have recently been in
contact with a gentleman (term used loosely at this point) with whom I have
been setting up terms with to buy a set of used GT40 Iron heads from. At our
last conversation, I told him my address and that I had the check in hand and
to go ahead and send them. He stated that he would send them out Monday
morning. I received an Email from him last night stating that he had a better
offer SATURDAY night and wants to start a bidding war on these heads. Needless
to say I am slightly at the boiling point here and feel rather slighted.
Now where I come from, once the deal has been agreed on a man is not any
better than his word. Do all of you think I have a right to be pi**ed off here
or am I just throwing a tantrum. Let me know.
Wayne Foy
'94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:05:08 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

I think, if it were me, I would question whether these heads
are worth the aggrevation! Unless you're saving alot,
why put up with any bull? You haven't even seen the product
and wants you to bid on it!

Mike

michael redden enter.net

> been setting up terms with to buy a set of used GT40 Iron heads from.
>wants to start a bidding war on these heads. Needless
> to say I am slightly at the boiling point here and feel rather slighted.
> Now where I come from, once the deal has been agreed on a man is not any
> better than his word. Do all of you think I have a right to be pi**ed off
here
> or am I just throwing a tantrum. Let me know.
> Wayne Foy
> '94 F150 Flareside Supercab

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:12:50 -0500
From: hemi-cbx juno.com (Hemi Z.)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: light throttle stumble

I've been lurking on the list for about three weeks now and the reason I
got on is because I have this same light throttle stuble that David and
Neal have described yesterday. I think there was someone else that
mentioned this also. An epidemic!

My truck is a 93 302 E4OD and pulling a grade at light throttle it will
develop a slight miss. It feels like only one cylinder misses every
couple of seconds. In addition to this, I tend to think the truck has
been slowly losing power over the year I've owned it. I replaced the
ignition components (cap, rotor, wires, & plugs) mainly because they were
quite old but I was hoping for some sort of improvement also. Not so.
Some people tell me that the cat is getting clogged. I haven't done a
vacuum check for this yet, but any thoughts on clogged cats (converters,
not felines)?

I do have another exhaust question or two. On my last truck, a 93 302
5-spd, I put on a Dynomax Cat Back dual system. My stock system was shot
so I figured the dual system would give me some sound and maybe even some
power. I got neither. Is this because the Dynomax system sucks or is
the cat just too resrictive to allow anything after it to have an affect?
Along those same lines, is it possible to split the exhaust into a true
dual exhaust arrangement? Maybe cut the Y-pipe then run twin cats and
twin mufflers? What about the O2 sensor and the air pump?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
~MHZ
P.S. I'm only on the dugest, so I may be a little slow in responding


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:00:03 +0200
From: Marko Err
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions


He is f***ing you why not f** him to:

bid so high price what he gonna say: Yee you got'it.
Then wait for 2 days ( you know lots of things to do and you are not
able to visit him) and after 2 days say: OK, I don't really need that stuff,
or "listen, I've got better bid, could you reduce your price  a little 
bit (let's say 30...40 %)

Best regards

Marko
 
 
Now where I come from, once the deal has been agreed
on a man is not any
better than his word. Do all of you think I have a right to be pi**ed
off here
or am I just throwing a tantrum. Let me know.
Wayne Foy
 
 

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:17:15 -0500
From: Frederick Rauscher
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement

I have a '85 Bronco w/ 351W HO. The engine is very tired with a long lis=
t
of problems, and the body has seen better days. In order to get a couple
more years out of the truck, I'd like to swap in a used 351W long block
with lower mileage (less money and time than a rebuild). Does anyone kno=
w
what made the HO different? Also, I want to make this a direct swap, wha=
t
years do I have a choice from, and are the car versions the same? BTW,
emissions is important since I live in Jersey!

Thanks for the help.

Fred
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 09:07:28 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - White smoke/antifreeze odor

Joe-
How old is the heater core? It could be seeping a bit of coolant overnight.
It does not take much to produce the antifreeze smell you notice in the
van. Does inside of windshield seem to fog up easily? The small puff of
white smoke could just be normal startup in cool weather and unrelated to
antifreeze smell.

Oil pressure always drops when the engine is hot, especially with 181 k
miles. If it bothers you, switch to slightly heavier oil. (But if the
lifters are quiet and you don't hear any bearing knock noises, I'd leave it
alone.) Or put a true mechanical guage on the engine when hot and see what
real pressure is (not some mickey-mouse Ford factory guage reading with no
scale). I suspect it is ok.

Joe wrote:
"Hello guys,
I have an 89 e-250 300 6cyl. with 181k on it.I replaced alot of parts on this
van. The whole cooling system. I get a antifreeze odor when I first start it
up, but no leaks at all.What could it be? I just noticed a little white smoke
puffing out the tailpipe, and my oil pressure drops when the oil gets hot.
(new oil press sender) I checked the oil and did not find any water in the
oil, a few bubbles on the stick. but no milky appearance in the oil. What
could this be? Head gasket??? Thanks."


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX

"USA Today has come out with a new survey: Apparently three out of
four people make up 75 percent of the population." --David Letterman
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:44:09 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - White gunk in oil filler cap

Trevor Gill writes: >>I have a 1993 f-150 4x4 I-6. I just changed the oil
and noticed a one inch layer of thick off white sludge under the oil filler
cap. Is this an indication of a problem?

Probably condensation. Don't know where you live, but down here in "the
humidity capital of the world", this is quite common, especially with short
trip driving. Longer trips will have a tendancy to get enough heat there to
evaporate it. Nothing to worry about until it shows up mixed in with the
oil. If this happens it is probably not condensation, but a leak
somewhere. Water in the oil is not a good thing and will cause major
damage very quickly. Keep it checked regularly for a milky like mix on the
dipstick. If it gets worse, you might want to start looking for coolant
loss. This would indicate trouble.

Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:04:28 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - sludge

Alex Wolfe writes: >>The piles of sludge in there were incredible (104k
miles). It took me 45 minutes to clean out the cover, the valve
springs did not look like springs, they were funky black cylinders...
My question was: Is this normal? Does this pose a possible hazard?
How to prevent?

Driving habits and weather conditions have a lot to do with sludge buildup
as well as the type of oil used and the T'stat used.
Short trips that do not alow the engine to come to full temperature and
stay there for about 15 minutes (at least) are terrible for engines (good
for sludge buildup). T'stats should be in the 190/195 degree range to aid
in oilflow and evaporation of condensation. Paraffin based oils are worse
than crude oil based oils for sludge. Hi detergent oils of multiple
viscosities are also best for reducing sludge. These are things I've
learned over the years from my experiences.
If the sludge you speak of breaks up all at once and gets down in the pan
and in the oil pump, or restricts the oil from getting in the pump (clogs
filter screen on pickup) it can cause problems.
I've got engines with nearly 300,000 miles on them and practically no
buildup under the rocker covers, but I nearly always drive 25+ miles every
time I crank one up.
Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:00:05 -0600
From: GTH
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

in the words of a true gentleman: "A man's handshake is as good as his
word". Unfortunately, there are very few gentlemen left. Been there,
been burned slightly MANY times, still will do it again. Although IF you
want to pursue it ...a e-mail message IS a binding legal document.

unless it amounts to LOOSING a hundred or more, easier just to get
pis*ed.

G Hester
"American by birth, a southerner by the grace of God"

FLR150 aol.com wrote:
>
> I have a quick question for all of you to reply on. I have recently been in
> contact with a gentleman (term used loosely at this point) with whom I have
> been setting up terms with to buy a set of used GT40 Iron heads from. At our
> last conversation, I told him my address and that I had the check in hand and
> to go ahead and send them. He stated that he would send them out Monday
> morning. I received an Email from him last night stating that he had a better
> offer SATURDAY night and wants to start a bidding war on these heads. Needless
> to say I am slightly at the boiling point here and feel rather slighted.
> Now where I come from, once the deal has been agreed on a man is not any
> better than his word. Do all of you think I have a right to be pi**ed off here
> or am I just throwing a tantrum. Let me know.
> Wayne Foy
> '94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:13:00 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement

Fred:

I have a 351"HO" in my '85 F150. The only difference I can see is that it
has a
small Holly 4 bbl. Other than the manifold, I don't know what else would
be different.
Anybody else know? A friend rebuilt the carb for me recently. It really
gets up and
moves, now.

Mike

michael redden enter.net

>
> I have a '85 Bronco w/ 351W HO. Does anyone know
> what made the HO different?
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Fred

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:28:51 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: FTE 80-96 - WTB: Throttle Body Pin For 86 BII

First off, I would like to publically thank those who came to my "rescue"
and responded so quickly about the location of the SPOUT connector so I
could properly set the timing in my BII. I got 25 mpg on the highway as a
result, which is very good imho for a vehicle that is almost 13 years old.
Our previous best usual mpg was around 20.

I am looking for the throttle body pin for my 86 Bronco II which the
accelerator cable linkage swivels on. This pin holds the accelerator cable
to the throttle body and allows more air and gas into the engine when you
press on the gas pedal. (Both the butterfly valve and the TPS turn as a
result.) If you have one for sale I am very interested in purchasing it.
Please email me at . If you know who I can contact, I
would appreciate that information as well.

Since the pin fell out while driving, I don't have the exact dimensions,
but it is about 6-8 mm in diameter and about 2 inches long and has a flange
on the end that keeps the linkage from sliding off.

I have tried the local dealers and they want to sell me a whole new TB
assembly, when all I need is that pin. I am willing to buy a complete TB,
however, if the price is right. The dealer's price was more than I was
willing to pay.

Thank you.

- -Dave Slotter
- --
mailto:dave slotter.org
ICQ# 4830064 AOL/AIM ID: "Mac XR"
1986 Ford Bronco II Gray Manual 2.9 V6 117K
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:54:01 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

GTH wrote:

> ..a e-mail message IS a binding legal document.

Yeah, Right.
- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:03:42 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - WTB: Throttle Body Pin For 86 BII

Dave Slotter wrote:

> I am looking for the throttle body pin for my 86 Bronco II which the
> accelerator cable linkage swivels on. This pin holds the accelerator cable
> to the throttle body and allows more air and gas into the engine when you
> press on the gas pedal. (Both the butterfly valve and the TPS turn as a
> result.) If you have one for sale I am very interested in purchasing it.
> Please email me at . If you know who I can contact, I
> would appreciate that information as well.

Dave,
This is obvious and you probably checked, but I should
think you would be able to at a junkyard ? You may luck
out and find a BII or pickup with the engine still in.
--
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:50:02 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

Wayne,

Having gone through this before I feel for you. You are correct that a
persons word is his bond and you had a contract. He could have told you to
make a bid and wait but he didn't. There is nothing you can do though except
get mad and let him know you think he is not honest and try to appeal to his
since of honor.

BTW, A lot of times the ad will say OBO, (or best offer), sometimes people
put that in there thinking it means that they have the right to take the
best offer over yours after you made a deal, as long as it hasn't left their
hands. As buyers we think it means the figure given is the asking price and
if it doesn't sell in a certain time period they will settle for your offer.
So much for that understanding.

IMHO you could fight him but what's the point, we as a nation are without
honor and honesty, no one will care.

Scott (you asked for my opinion)

> Now where I come from, once the deal has been agreed on a man is not any
> better than his word. Do all of you think I have a right to be pi**ed off
> here
> or am I just throwing a tantrum. Let me know.
> Wayne Foy
> '94 F150 Flareside Supercab
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:56:27 EST
From: PhilDyson aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement

I don't know what the difference is, but I did the same thing you are about to
do and was not happy with the results. I should have rebuilt my 86 HO. I
bought a fresh 74 engine out of a nasty ranchero. I tore down the motor and
had it checked over by my machine shop and all I had to do was shove in a mild
Lunati cam, hone the bores, clean the pistons and replace with new rings. I
was concerned about the 74 heads and unleaded fuel but that was not a player
as the heads were built in 78. I had them completly rebuilt with no porting
just gasket match and smoothing. I tossed the 2-barrel carb and manifold for
a Holly 600 with an Edelbrock Dual Plane. Put in a new roller timing chain
and hi-vol oil pump. She runs good but not much poot. I my have lost a few
points of compression with the 78 heads on the 9.5 deck 74 short block. I
have advanced the timing a bunch and can hardly make it ping. And I thought
I'd have to retard the timing. In short I am dissapointed that I did'nt
rebuild the H.O.. It had more get-up and go after 150,000 mi than this
bastardized piece of junk. My problem is probably heads, Anybody have a set
of GT-40 heads they want to sell?
Phil
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:58:15 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit

I dont even have a lift kit and my 1989 F250 makes all kinds of funky noises
and ive had to replace body bushings So for whatever that is worth
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:54:51 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - BLOWBY AND FUEL FILTER

the filter is on the left frame ahead of the tank(s) and the tank crossover
valve is so equipped. It is housed in aplastic thing but it is definately not
lifetime, i believe its like in the area of the middle to front part of where
the door is along the inner part of the frams
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:01:06 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

Wayne Id tell him to stick those things up his A**... dont you remember the
story of the dog with the bone who saw his reflection when he went to take a
drink from the lake???
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:02:52 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: light throttle stumble

if the cat is getting clogged you will have an extremely hot exhaust, and the
cat will probably glow at idle
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:11:11 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

you know i suggest that you publish this guys name on here so the rest of us
know enough not to even make any offers on anything this penny pinching
slimeball might want to off at the highest price.. after all he who laughs
last is he who laughs best
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:25:33 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?

Chris,
These numbers sound too round but I show 200 bhp on the output of the motor
300 ft/lbs torque per the manual. I like your numbers better though. : ) I
figure you would deduct 15% H.P. loss for a standard and 20% for a automatic
at the wheels. My '95 does not have a mass air flow sensor and I don't know
about the roller motor. That sounds like the spec's for a '95 Lightning. I
wish my '95 did have mass air and a roller motor. I think the mass air came
out in '96 didn't it?
Scott


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garr&Pam [SMTP:garrpam netgsi.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 7:15 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
>
> SpyderLv81 aol.com wrote:
> >
> > I just bought a 95 F-150 with the 351 in it. I was just curious if any
> one
> > knows how much HP and Torque It puts out factory. This thing has what
> looks
> > like factory sway-bars also. Is this standard or are they aftermarket?
> Does
> > anyone have any ideas how I can get some more performance out of it
> without to
> > much money.
> >
> > Spyder2
>
> Horsepower should be about 225 and 325 ft lbs of torque...these numbers
> are higher than previous years do to mass air and being a roller motor!
> To bad they did not apply this componets to my Lightning!
> Chris
> 94 #381
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:49:09 -0500
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?

Scott,

From the appearance descriptions I've gotten off of this list, I believe
my '95 F150 302 has mass air. I haven't done any performance enhancements
yet, but I checked it out of curiosity and was pleased to see that it was
there for future mods.

- -Mike

- -----Original Message-----
From: Giddens, Scott
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?


Chris,
These numbers sound too round but I show 200 bhp on the output of the motor
300 ft/lbs torque per the manual. I like your numbers better though. : ) I
figure you would deduct 15% H.P. loss for a standard and 20% for a automatic
at the wheels. My '95 does not have a mass air flow sensor and I don't know
about the roller motor. That sounds like the spec's for a '95 Lightning. I
wish my '95 did have mass air and a roller motor. I think the mass air came
out in '96 didn't it?
Scott


> -----Original Message-----
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>
> SpyderLv81 aol.com wrote:
> >
> > I just bought a 95 F-150 with the 351 in it. I was just curious if any
> one
> > knows how much HP and Torque It puts out factory. This thing has what
> looks
> > like factory sway-bars also. Is this standard or are they aftermarket?
> Does
> > anyone have any ideas how I can get some more performance out of it
> without to
> > much money.
> >
> > Spyder2
>
> Horsepower should be about 225 and 325 ft lbs of torque...these numbers
> are higher than previous years do to mass air and being a roller motor!
> To bad they did not apply this componets to my Lightning!
> Chris
> 94 #381
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:02:28 -0500
From: "Mark Edwards"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F250 4x4 camber problems

Does anyone know what can be done to correct camber problems on my 93 =
F250 4x4? I have had an offset bushing installed on the right side and an =
alignment done but the tire continues to wear on the outside edge. I have =
no reason to think the vehicle was in an accident, and can't believe that =
a factory front end could pass QC like this. Thanks
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:28:00 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

I think publishing this guys name is a great idea! lets see it
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:28:40 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - F250 4x4 camber problems

Mark,

Sorry, but Ford did let almost all of their trucks pass QC with the front
ends that way. They offer a free alignment as well as replace the camber
bushings within one year after you purchased it and if you didn't catch it
you got stuck with the repair. I was told by the service dept some lame
excuse that Ford thinks that trucks should not be required to be as fine
tuned as a car because they are work vehicles and if you purchased it for
use as a comfortable ride you can have them tune it for free. The problem is
no one knew about it and they obviously did not tell anyone.

You are going to have to take it to a very good alignment shop and have it
done the right way. Some trial and error is involved with getting it right
and you can not use the factory default spec's when you do it. I had it done
and they quoted 350 bucks to fix it and I got it down to 150 bucks after I
found someone who would do it for 150 bucks. 50 bucks for the alignment, and
50 bucks each for the left and right. Some will try to compensate for one
side thinking the other side will fall into place without checking it or
maybe they are shooting for the same crappy factory spec's that got us into
this problem in the first place. Take it to a reputable shop that
specializes in 4 wheel drive trucks and be prepared to spend some more cash.
It's funny but I never thought to check with the list before I had a simple
alignment done, but I wish I had, not knowing the trouble Ford caused with
there little money saving trick they played on us.

Scott

> Does anyone know what can be done to correct camber problems on my 93
> F250 4x4? I have had an offset bushing installed on the right side and an
> alignment done but the tire continues to wear on the outside edge. I have
> no reason to think the vehicle was in an accident, and can't believe that
> a factory front end could pass QC like this. Thanks
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:10:34 EST
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - White smoke/antifreeze odor

Hi Jim,
thanks for the reply. I just replaced the heater core about 2 months ago. its
new. the winshield does not fog up.I know what you mean about the white
condensation smoke when cold. but I live in florida, and its not cold here.
but it started puffing a little when the truck was hot. I drove it today, but
no more smoke. its starting to run a little rough. takes a long crank to start
EFI. but the engine is quiet and pressure is ok, I also am using 10-40 in it.
I did alot of work to this van, new charging system, cooling system, tune up,
fuel filter,valve cover gasket, the head looks brand new. If it were the head
gasket or the block was cracked would the engine run ok or not????? Thanks to
all that respond to my dilemma.

Joe
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:29:05 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit

how much was installation on that kit?
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:52:41 -0700
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?

Mike,

I know my '95 F150 5.8 L does not have a mass air flow sensor, the
guys I purchased the K&N FIPK from inspected it and did not find the sensor
on it. I would have had to pay about 400 bucks for the one that had it. I am
thinking that if they had to check then maybe the 5.0 L had them or the ones
manufactured later that year has them. My truck was made in Feb of 1995 so
it could be. I do remember the guys at K&N saying that all the 5.8 L made
that year did not have them on it and I should buy the non-mass air flow
version. They did tell me to look at the intake for a single tube running to
the filter plenum. All 5.8 L with the mass air flow sensors have single bore
throttle bodies and the connection to the filter plenum is a single tube.
Now I think the 5.0 L's have always had the single bore throttle bodies and
therefore a single tube running to the plenum. If you are using the same
reasoning on your 5.0 L as K&N told me to do on my 5.8 L then you may be
wrong. I am not completely sure but I think that is what is happening here.
All I do know for sure is my '95 F150 5.8 L does not have a mass air flow
sensor and the way you determine if a 5.8 L does is to look for the single
tube running to the filter box. If it is a single tube on the 5.8 L's then
you have a mass air flow sensor and if all the 5.0 L have a single tube
running to the filter box then you can not use that method to determine if
it does. It makes since that the 5.0 L would have a single bore throttle
body because of the smaller motor. Someone please correct me if I am
assuming too much.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael J. Pasznik, Jr. [SMTP:mjp globespan.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 2:49 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
>
> Scott,
>
> From the appearance descriptions I've gotten off of this list, I
> believe
> my '95 F150 302 has mass air. I haven't done any performance enhancements
> yet, but I checked it out of curiosity and was pleased to see that it was
> there for future mods.
>
> -Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Giddens, Scott
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 4:45 PM
> Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
>
>
> Chris,
> These numbers sound too round but I show 200 bhp on the output of the
> motor
> 300 ft/lbs torque per the manual. I like your numbers better though. : )
> I
> figure you would deduct 15% H.P. loss for a standard and 20% for a
> automatic
> at the wheels. My '95 does not have a mass air flow sensor and I don't
> know
> about the roller motor. That sounds like the spec's for a '95 Lightning. I
> wish my '95 did have mass air and a roller motor. I think the mass air
> came
> out in '96 didn't it?
> Scott
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Garr&Pam [SMTP:garrpam netgsi.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 7:15 PM
> > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?
> >
> > SpyderLv81 aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I just bought a 95 F-150 with the 351 in it. I was just curious if
> any
> > one
> > > knows how much HP and Torque It puts out factory. This thing has what
> > looks
> > > like factory sway-bars also. Is this standard or are they
> aftermarket?
> > Does
> > > anyone have any ideas how I can get some more performance out of it
> > without to
> > > much money.
> > >
> > > Spyder2
> >
> > Horsepower should be about 225 and 325 ft lbs of torque...these numbers
> > are higher than previous years do to mass air and being a roller motor!
> > To bad they did not apply this componets to my Lightning!
> > Chris
> > 94 #381
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:21:05 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

great idea!
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:01:31 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 351W Replacement

>I'd have to retard the timing. In short I am dissapointed that I did'nt
>rebuild the H.O.. It had more get-up and go after 150,000 mi than this
>bastardized piece of junk. My problem is probably heads, Anybody have a set
>of GT-40 heads they want to sell?

I think you're on the right track with compression. The 1978 351W heads are
identical to the 302s that year. You've got the small valves and big chambers,
so your compression may indeed have dropped. The 1974 351W didn't have the
much
squeeze to begin with. Go find a set of 1969-1973 351W heads; they have the
bigger valves and smaller chambers. They won't flow like the GT-40s, but they
will be an improvement. The rest of your build sounds okay.

Just my $.02 worth.

Mark




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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:07:33 -0700
From: "delquattro"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Body lift

I am very happy with the lift on my '83 F150 Stepside 4x4. It was installed
already when I bought the truck. It takes corners flat and handles awesome.
No noises whatsoever. I think lifting the body as opposed to lifting the
chassis is probably the reason it handles so well. The body is light and so
the center of gravity isn't greatly affected. I'm running 33x12.5x15's.


Del Sharp

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:23:02 EST
From: Bakend aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Need opinions

In a message dated 12/1/98 12:03:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,
sgiddens ball.com writes:

>
> IMHO you could fight him but what's the point, we as a nation are without
> honor and honesty, no one will care.
>
It always seems to be the few who get the recognition! The majority of
Americans ARE honorable and honest!
My .02
D Baken
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:02:20 EST
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F250 4x4 camber problems

you probably already know this, but, a tire will continue it's wear pattern
after one has already started. So, unless you have put new tires on since the
allignment, the tires will still wear the same, GOOD LUCK

- -BART-
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:39:44 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Anyone Know about 95 f-150?

Actually, my 86 5.0 has the two bore throttle body.
Bob

"Giddens, Scott" wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I know my '95 F150 5.8 L does not have a mass air flow sensor, the
> guys
> . It makes since that the 5.0 L would have a single bore throttle
> body because of the smaller motor. Someone please correct me if I am
> assuming too much.
>
>

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:50:43 -0600
From: Joe
Subject: FTE 80-96 - door hinge

i just bought a 95 f-150 super cab ,, i notice that when i open the
drivers door ,, it drops down just slightly ,, all the hinge bolts are
tight on the door side and the body side so i think either something has
slipped or the hinge pin is wearing ,, anyone have any advise ,, is
replacing a hinge easy ? ,, looks like i may have to take the fender off
to get to the bolts on the body side ,, and is alignment a problem ??
thanks ,,
joe ,,

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:55:18 -0500
From: Daniel Maxwell
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Why is my brothers GMC 350 way faster...

Here is my .02. I have a 91 Bronco 302, had an 88 Bronco 302, a 91 F250
351W and a 98 Tahoe (company truck, not my idea). Also had a 93 Blazer as a
co truck until 6 months ago, both had a 350. All the trucks had about the
same axle ratio, and all had auto overdrive trans. The Tahoe cannot get out
of its own way, cannot pull the generator we use, and gets around 14 to 16
MPG. This is about the same as the rest we have (17). Also, around 40K
miles, they all have lost their fuel pumps. The Blazer was faster,
accelerated faster and could pull the generator.Got replaced because of
miles (156K). The Broncos both pulled the generator, with a little
trouble, not as much as the Tahoe though, 88 got 17MPG, 91 16MPG, niether
with any real mechanical problems. The F250 was the only 2wd, got 15-16MPG,
ran better and faster than the rest, the generator was pulled with no
problems at all. The other guys aren't real happy with the new Tahoes,
although they are a lot nicer than the fleet strippers we had before (I
like my AC)


>Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:21:45 -0700
>From: kroger ucla.edu
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Why is my brother's GMC 350 way faster than my F-150
302?
>
>Hi, just wonder if anybody has thoughts on this. I have an 88 F-150 4x4
>302 4-speed auto overdrive. It has new slightly oversize tires (265/75x15,
>instead of stock 235/75x15). That's 45mm (~1.75") oversize. Generally,
>I can not break my back tires loose.
>
>I spent a week with my brother, who has a 94 (I think) GMC Sierra 1500 2x4
>w/ 350 and 4-speed auto w/ overdrive. His truck is WAY quicker than
>mine, more than the extra cubic inches should account for. Moreover, it
>has throttle-body injection vs. the multi-port in my F-150. I can
>break his tires loose at will, in fact, it's almost too easy. And
>punching it into passing gear, the GMC has WAY more acceleration
>than my Ford.
>
>Both trucks have about 70K miles and are in excellent shape (at least
>I thought mine was).
>
>I know I'm probably a little heavier with the 4x4, but his has extended
>cab and a fiberglass camper shell. His tires are stock.
>
>Is my motor that much weaker than his, or might this have to do with
>my final drive ratio? I know the tires don't help. If anybody knows
>what the gear and axle ratios on either of these trucks are that would
>help.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>Jim
>


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:25:19 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - door hinge

Joe wrote:
>
> i just bought a 95 f-150 super cab ,, i notice that when i open the
> drivers door ,, it drops down just slightly ,, all the hinge bolts are
> tight on the door side and the body side so i think either something has
> slipped or the hinge pin is wearing ,, anyone have any advise ,, is
> replacing a hinge easy ? ,, looks like i may have to take the fender off
> to get to the bolts on the body side ,, and is alignment a problem ??
> thanks
>
I'ts likely the hinge pins or guides. A body shop will probably charge
you in the neighbourhood of a hudred bucks to fix it. At least that's
what they wanted for my Plymouth. You can probably get the bits for
twenty bucks and then spend some quality time with your truck. YOu
should be able to get them at any reasonable auto parts store. I never
did bother fixing the car.
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:55:23 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - door hinge

its definately the hings pin and you gotta replace the hinge
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:46:21 EST
From: GLMPILOT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - lift kit

the only thing IM saying is if you or anyone wants to raise a truck and use
it for any type of off road don't use a body lift, if your going to just cruse
the pavement yea go ahead (just my opinion).if 3in. is all you want there are
plenty of "suspension"lifts that will make your truck kick a*s .hey street is
neat IM not knocking it but put a little race tech. on a truck is the greatest
thing in the world
Dwayne Jackson
so.cal.dez.

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:09:30 EST
From: Genlee97 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - door hinge

You might have worn brass bushings or bent hinges, A bodyman might be able to
bend it with a floorjack, if it gets worse. Had that prob with my Exploder er
Explorer
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:29:00 -0500
From: Dave Slotter
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - WTB: Throttle Body Pin For 86 BII

At 12:03 PM -0600 12/1/98, Rick Wojciechowski wrote:
>Dave Slotter wrote:
>
>> I am looking for the throttle body pin for my 86 Bronco II which the
>> accelerator cable linkage swivels on. This pin holds the accelerator cable
>> to the throttle body and allows more air and gas into the engine when you
>> press on the gas pedal. (Both the butterfly valve and the TPS turn as a
>> result.) If you have one for sale I am very interested in purchasing it.
>> Please email me at . If you know who I can contact, I
>> would appreciate that information as well.
>
>Dave,
> This is obvious and you probably checked, but I should
>think you would be able to at a junkyard ? You may luck
>out and find a BII or pickup with the engine still in.

Rick,

I have had the worst luck calling junkyards trying to find a BII with the
engine still in. I have called both new and used parts suppliers and can't
find this pin. I have spent hours on the phone trying to locate this part.
Currently, the Bronco II has a nylon fastener holding the accelerator cable
in place. :-(

In theory, I could keep calling around, but at some point, one must finally
give up and just appeal for help. However, it looks like at this point due
to the lack of response that I am going to have to manufacture my own part
as a replacement. I didn't know if I could locate the part by posting to
the list, but I had to give it one last try anyway.

- -Dave
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