80-96-list-digest Thursday, November 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 397



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - engine swap
FTE 80-96 - Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:44:00 -0600
FTE 80-96 - Sunbeam
FTE 80-96 - Re: Mass Air
FTE 80-96 - Clutch Fans
FTE 80-96 - HP and Torque rating?
FTE 80-96 - Re: Alot of Questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs
FTE 80-96 - Transgo Shift Kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Fans
Re: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Fans
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem and timing question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs
FTE 80-96 - Fnt Brake Swap
FTE 80-96 - Sunbeam Tiger

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:50:53 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - engine swap

My F-250 ('71) had a 302 that was swapped in in place of the 300 six.
As far as I know, the six and the 302 and 351 are interchangable.

michael redden enter.net

> Hello
> I currently own an F250 with a small V8 (302). My question is this:
> how hard is it to install a bigger motor, such as a 351 in my truck?
> Roger J
> baptist inlink.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:51:17 -0500 (EST)
From: "Wallace, Craig"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:44:00 -0600

Brew,

Perhaps what you and Craig are experiencing are these new, fandangled
"metallic" brake pads. I've experienced the very same thing not long after
replacing mine and was told that the "metallic" brake pads have some kind of
coating on them when new. Either time (well, not time itself, but normal
braking conditions) or having to press on the brakes extremely hard and
suddenly will wear off this wonderful coating and glaze the pads causing a
shrieking, squeeling sound (usually about as loud as the indicators on the
pads which makes it hard to tell when they are actually low). I've heard of
an after-market adhesive (don't know the name...sorry) that you can spray on
the pads, but it doesn't last long before it wears off, too. If it bothers
you, try an auto parts store. I'm sure they will have the adhesive. You
may
find yourself re-adding this quite often. Other than that, I guess we are
going to have to get used to this new style pad.

Craig

>Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:43:50 -0800
>From: Randy
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F250 Questions

>Craig,
>The squeaking could be the brakes. My F-250 did the same thing, not
>very loud, but noticable. I thought it was the bearings, but recently
>turned the rotors and put new pads on and it went away. That was
>about 6 months ago and the squeak has now returned. I think it may be
>the 'replacement indicator', that metal tap that sticks out off the
>pad to contact the rotor when low to 'remind' you to replace the pads.
>As for the rear lock-up, check to make sure your rear axle seals are
>in good shape. If they go bad they'll leak and this can sometimes
>cause lock-up in hard braking. Many others (myself included) have
>noticed how 'touchy' the rear brakes are in damp weather especially
>when you first start out.

>Later,
>Brew

>Craig Rubin wrote:
>>
>>Howdy all,...........
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:58:21 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Sunbeam

L walters writes: Didn't FORD have a large stake in "SUNBEAM"? I
remember a little two seater that looked like a "MG Midget". This thing had
a 289cid FORD s/b. It could almost run away and hide from most muscle
cars.

It was called the Sunbeam "TIGER". I don't know about the stake in
Sunbeam, but they did offer the TIGER with 289HP (solid lifter version with
275 horsepower). And you're right about it running away from and hiding
from most so called 'muscle cars', of the era.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:26:38 EST
From: FLR150 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Mass Air

Big Red wrote:
From: "BigRed"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - mass air

Hi all. I know mass air has been talked about a bunch lately (not as
much 20 as amsoil), but I got a new question. I was thinking about switching
to mass air in my 87 5.0 C-6 F-150, but I was looking in a motorsports
catalog and it said the kit was only for AOD tranny's. Is it impossible to
do it in a C-6? Why? I'm not going to switch to AOD just so I can get mass
air so is there any way around this? If any of you could clue me in here I
would greatly appreciate it. TIA.

Well, Red, I am the one that had been looking mostly for info on the mass air
setup because I couldn't find one for the AODE. First I would contact Ford SVO
via (810) 468-1356, Second I would contact Interactive Systems and
Technologies at 1(800) 820 1082. These people have been making mass air
conversions for a while. Also you could contact Best Products, I don't have
their number but they have ads in Truckin and other truck and car mags. I had
contacted Best Products and found that while its hard to get someone on the
phone there, once you get them they have the knowledge and the low, low price
that we are always looking for. I hope this helps.
Wayne Foy
FLR150 aol.com
94 F150 Flareside Supercab
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:59:35 -0700
From: "Gerald L. Hinkle Jr. CPA"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Fans

Can anyone tell me how you determine whether or not a clutch fan is working
properly? I would simply replace it since it is original and 18 years old
but the cost is rather high to replace a part that may be working fine. It
there any way to test a clutch fan? Happy Thanksgiving to all of you "list
people"......

Jerry Hinkle Jr. CPA
"RULEMAKER" 94 F-350 Crew Cab 4x4
"LTS-ROK" 80 JEEP CJ-5
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:11:35 -0800
From: "Matt and Deidre"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - HP and Torque rating?

Does anyone know the the hp and torque rating on a 93 F150 with a 5.0L eng.
and 5 speed tranny? Or where these values can be found on the net. What do
ya'll think about Flowmaster mufflers?

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:24:45 PST
From: "Adam Hafner"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Alot of Questions

I personally think that the 302 V8 kicks a**. I own a 1980 F150 with a
302 V8 it has 4x4 and of coarse its a manual. I live in Mitchell, SD
and I went dun hoppin' this year and it kicked a**. I couldn't see snow
plowing with anything less than that. Of coarse that is not a
perfessional's point of view.

good luck,

Adam

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:42:05 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs

Locking hubs alow you to connect the front drive axle on your 4X4 to the
wheels so when the transfer case is put in 4WD you get power to the front
wheels. Many 4X4's come with hubs that have plastic parts so the heavier
duty aftermarket hubs are a good upgrade, also some people do not like their
stock Auto hubs and replace them with the more reliable manual hubs.

Rade
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From: Marko Err
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 7:24 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs


>Hi, lot of catalogs sell locking hubs. I haven't found any information
>about purpose of those hubs. So could someone explain for what are those
>things good for?
>
>
>Best regards
>Marko
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:46:40 -0800
From: Jon Berman
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Transgo Shift Kit

Hello,

Has anyone heard of the Transgo shift kit for E4OD transmissions?
Supposedly, it improves the quality and crispness of shifts, but I was
wondering if it makes it overly harsh for general street
driving/commuting.

Thanks for any advice,

Jon
1994 F-150
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:27:17 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs

Radoje Spasojevic wrote:

> Locking hubs alow you to connect the front drive axle on your 4X4 to the
> wheels so when the transfer case is put in 4WD you get power to the front
> wheels. Many 4X4's come with hubs that have plastic parts so the heavier

Thats about it. Aaaaahhhh, I can't go without saying somth'n.
Hubs once locked in, allow you to pull out stuck Ch*vys and
run over Rav4's. :-)
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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:45:50 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Fans

If it doesnt make noise when it spins and it spins freely its fine and i
agree if it aint broke dont fix it
Bob
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 18:39:53 EST
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Clutch Fans

Start your engine and get it warm, then shut it off and wait a about a minute
the fan should then be harder to turn then when the engine was cool, meaning
that the spring is tightening and thus, the fan is not slipping as much.

- -GOOD LUCK-

- -Bart-
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:13:15 -0500
From: "Christopher Maher"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem and timing question

Speaking of idle problems, my hunting idle problem turned out to be a bad
voltage regulator causing the BYP (IAC) valve to freak out. BTW, does
anyone know what the computer typically keeps the timing at when idling on a
5.8 EFI motor? I know the base timing is set at 10 BTDC, but when I plug
the spout back in it runs at about 25 BTDC and this seems a little advanced
to me. And if it is wrong, could a bad TFI module cause this?


Christopher T. Maher
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From: ROlson1039 aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: November 24, 1998 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem


>try cleaning out the fuel system with a gumout type product and perhaps
teh
>TPS is bad.... if you could be more specific it might help as to how it
runs
>the rest of the time
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:00:07 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs

You forgot one thing there Rick, with the front huds locked you have another
diff. to wear out/blow up/break. >8^)

Rade
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From: Rick Wojciechowski
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs


>Radoje Spasojevic wrote:
>
>> Locking hubs alow you to connect the front drive axle on your 4X4 to the
>> wheels so when the transfer case is put in 4WD you get power to the front
>> wheels. Many 4X4's come with hubs that have plastic parts so the heavier
>
> Thats about it. Aaaaahhhh, I can't go without saying somth'n.
>Hubs once locked in, allow you to pull out stuck Ch*vys and
>run over Rav4's. :-)
>--
>Thanks,
> Rick Wojo
> '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
> '92 Mstng 5.0L
> '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:35:16 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fnt Brake Swap

Howdy,
Are disc brake mounts interchangeable between dual piston and single for
4X4's? Has anyone done this before? Hazards?(not Dukes of, either)
I've been dealing with sticky calipers and pads are thin again. (mine are
single piston) I hear that the duels don't eat pads as bad, so maybe a
change over to the dual side?
thanx in advance, Bart-AK

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