80-96-list-digest Wednesday, November 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 396



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 80-96 - Surging F-150
Re: FTE 80-96 - Alot of Questions
FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem
FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2
FTE 80-96 - Slip Yoke Clunk
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem
FTE 80-96 - Cam problems
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2
FTE 80-96 - engine swap
FTE 80-96 - F250 Questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-150 Front End Popping
Re: FTE 80-96 - F250 Questions
Re: FTE 80-96 - engine swap
FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs
FTE 80-96 - mass air

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:12:15 -0600
From: "Ferino, Chris"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Surging F-150

> I just replaced the engine (5.8) in my 89 F150.......I got a '92 version
so
> I would get the later camshaft for a smooth idle. Anyway, mine is surging
> at idle now also......seems to be worst after I put it in park after being
> in drive. It just hunts up and down and will eventually stall if I let
it.
> Anyone have any ideas? I have a new TPS and the O2 sensor is working
> properly.

I had this problem with my old '87 Bronco and my '90 Mustang -
for me, it was worst first thing in the morning after starting.
It turned out to be a dirty Idle Air Control assembly - after
a good cleaning with throttle body cleaner, both ran as smooth
as could be expected.

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:01:18 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Alot of Questions

Scottie Schmidt wrote:

> I am the guy who sent all of those messages about snow plowing(with
> a 150), and what kind of farm truck to get.

SO YOUR THE GUY. :-)

Scot,
I gotta add this since I like it so much. I think they aught
to look at one with a 300 I-6. If they are going to do no more
than you say I really think the I-6 will be sufficient. I
really love mine in my bronco that has 91K and I got it
at 78k. All you would need would be some all terrain
tires and you would be set. Are you(they) thinking of
purchasing new or a later model used one ? Anyways
I am an I-6 believer. Yes, I like my 5.0L mustang, but
I-6 goes good in a truck.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:24:58 -0500
From: "John Meade"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem

What do I need to fix? There I was caught in heavy stop and go snail
traffic on all sides. When I was able to move forward 10-15 feet the engine
would idle down, sputter some and die after a few seconds. It easily
restarted, but would then die again after working convincing itself to do
so. Turning off the A/C help a little, but almost every time I moved
forward it would idle roughly and die. This happened about 30 times in an
hour and a half is causing stress for this Ford devotee.

The truck is an 86, 302, auto O/D.

John
Gainesville, FL



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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:38:29 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2

Didn't FORD have a large stake in "SUNBEAM"? I remember a little two
seater that looked like a "MG Midget". This thing had a 289cid FORD s/b. It
could almost run away and hide from most muscle cars. Bart-AK

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:23:42 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Slip Yoke Clunk

I've had this same problem with my truck since brand new back in 1984, still
clunks, Ford even replaced the slip yoke once back in 1986. Greasing it does
help but just for a short while. Even synthetic grease doesn't seem to help
much better. I have heard about the nickel plated slip yoke as well but
haven't tried it. Has anyone out there replaced their slip yoke with the
'nickel' unit and had their CLUNK go away permanently? I'd like to hear
some first hand accounts from folks before I lay down the bucks for this
piece. Thanks Walt


Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:36:43 -0600
From: "Jachim, Jeff"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Things that go CLUNK

Chuck,
My 95 F150 E.B. 4x4 does the same thing. My brother-in-law is a
Ford wrench, and said the noise is coming from the slip yoke. He dropped
the
drive shaft and used a teflon grease on the splines and the noise went
away.
This only seems to be a temp fix, because the noise is coming back a
little after
about 3k miles. I think he said Ford makes a nickel plated(?) slip yoke
as a
replacement. I haven't tried this, yet!
Hope this helps,


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:55:19 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2

L WALTERS wrote:
>
> Didn't FORD have a large stake in "SUNBEAM"? I remember a little two
> seater that looked like a "MG Midget". This thing had a 289cid FORD s/b. It
> could almost run away and hide from most muscle cars. Bart-AK
>
Nope. Sunbeam was part of the Roots (Rootes? Forget the spelling) Group.
The Sunbeam Alpine got a 289 installed and became the Sunbam Tiger. Then
Chrysler bought Roots (Rootes, whatever).

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:53:02 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem

John Meade wrote:

> What do I need to fix? There I was caught in heavy stop and go snail
> traffic on all sides. When I was able to move forward 10-15 feet the engine
> would idle down, sputter some and die after a few seconds. It easily
> restarted, but would then die again after working convincing itself to do
> so. Turning off the A/C help a little, but almost every time I moved
> forward it would idle roughly and die. This happened about 30 times in an
> hour and a half is causing stress for this Ford devotee.

Vacuum leak and or timing. I would check those two things first.
--
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:42:25 EST
From: ROlson1039 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Idle Problem

try cleaning out the fuel system with a gumout type product and perhaps teh
TPS is bad.... if you could be more specific it might help as to how it runs
the rest of the time
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:41:24 -0500
From: "Robert E. Tyler"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Cam problems

I'm looking for help from a true Ford-Motor-head..My 92 F150 lost #2
piston at approx. 89k. No one knows why! Had to bore all cylinders .030.
New pistons, heads were worked (standard procedures), Ordered and
installed a motorsport E303 cam and mass air kit. (trying to put a little
more pep in the new motor.) Roller tapets and pushrods are OEM. Checked
with the SVO boys in Flint, MI. before ordering the cam and Mass air and
was told this combo should work just fine, and I should gain more power and
better fuel economy. Well, so far not so. On initial start up the motor
would barely run. Back to SVO , said I had to change the Injectors wires
to the new firing order. Did that! Still rough running. SVO said I had
to shim the rockers. First used .030's then went to .060. Now I 'm back
to .030 on four of the cylinders and .060 on the other four. Used the
procedure SVO explained. No less than one quarter turn and no more than a
full turn after initial contact with rocker and valve. Timing is at 10
btdc. Sensors are good. Truck idles rough. but runs on road smooth but,
lacks power. and fuel mileage has really gone downstream. I would
appreciate any real expert advise on this problem and will be glad to pay
for the phone calls if you would contact me at rtyler csonline.net.

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:42:12 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2

That sounds right. Then Chrysler was in the position of purchasing engines
from Ford for the Tiger. That didn't go over too well, and either the
Chrysler powerplant wouldn't fit or it was too much trouble to retool, so
the Tiger died a short time later. Imagine a hemi powered Tiger! Hmmm.
I've been looking for a project....

Dave Baldwin
Dallas TX.

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From: Andre Roy [mailto:andre dns3.unipissing.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 11:55 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Group Question 2


L WALTERS wrote:
>
> Didn't FORD have a large stake in "SUNBEAM"? I remember a little two
> seater that looked like a "MG Midget". This thing had a 289cid FORD s/b.
It
> could almost run away and hide from most muscle cars. Bart-AK
>
Nope. Sunbeam was part of the Roots (Rootes? Forget the spelling) Group.
The Sunbeam Alpine got a 289 installed and became the Sunbam Tiger. Then
Chrysler bought Roots (Rootes, whatever).

- --
Andre
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:00:30 -0600
From: "Roger L. Jefferson"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - engine swap

Hello
I currently own an F250 with a small V8 (302). My question is this:
how hard is it to install a bigger motor, such as a 351 in my truck?
Roger J
baptist inlink.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:04:15 -0800
From: "Craig Rubin"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F250 Questions

Howdy all,

I have a couple of questions regarding my F250, 4x4, diesel and auto.

I have just noticed a squeaking noise when turning left while going forward.
It starts and stops when in motion and stops when I turn the wheel to the
left.

The right rear wheel locks up under medium and hard breaking, this is the
only one that does. The brakes have recently been repaired.

Any suggestions on what to look for before I start looking/tearing into
these two items?

Thanks in advance,

Craig Rubin
crubin foxinternet.net


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:16:31 -0800
From: Howard Webb
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-150 Front End Popping

Bikerdan, Which web site??? Howard - - - Thanks

bikerdan wrote:

> > Has anyone had any experience with the front end of their '95 F-150
> > supercab making a popping noise when turning or going over bumps? In
> fact, I took it
> > to the dealer about a year ago and they replaced some rivits with bolts,
> > but here we are a year later with a similar problem.
> >
>
> I think that I read about a T.S.B. on that on the web site
> check it out
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:43:50 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F250 Questions

Craig,
The squeaking could be the brakes. My F-250 did the same thing, not
very loud, but noticable. I thought it was the bearings, but recently
turned the rotors and put new pads on and it went away. That was
about 6 months ago and the squeak has now returned. I think it may be
the 'replacement indicator', that metal tap that sticks out off the
pad to contact the rotor when low to 'remind' you to replace the pads.
As for the rear lock-up, check to make sure your rear axle seals are
in good shape. If they go bad they'll leak and this can sometimes
cause lock-up in hard braking. Many others (myself included) have
noticed how 'touchy' the rear brakes are in damp weather especially
when you first start out.

Later,
Brew

Craig Rubin wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding my F250, 4x4, diesel and auto.
>
> I have just noticed a squeaking noise when turning left while going forward.
> It starts and stops when in motion and stops when I turn the wheel to the
> left.
>
> The right rear wheel locks up under medium and hard breaking, this is the
> only one that does. The brakes have recently been repaired.
>
> Any suggestions on what to look for before I start looking/tearing into
> these two items?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Craig Rubin
> crubin foxinternet.net
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:05:43 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - engine swap

Well Roger (HEY ROG!!!, anyone remember that guy? - ? Barry)
It depends, you didn't mention what year the truck was. The F-250 was
carburated until 1987, the 302 however began fuel-injection sometime
around 1985 I think (someone will know). Then you have the problem of
which ignition you have, Duraspark, EEC-IV, etc, etc. If you can get
a 351 get the entire wiring harness, it'll cost you more up front, but
will save you 10-fold more in the long run (money, headaches, blah
blah). You will have to get more about your truck and share it to the
group (year, ignition type and such), that way someone (not me cuz I
don't know) can give you the years that combonation appeared in both
the 302 and/or the 351 so you can look for a match very close to
yours.

Later,
Brew

Roger L. Jefferson wrote:
>
> Hello
> I currently own an F250 with a small V8 (302). My question is this:
> how hard is it to install a bigger motor, such as a 351 in my truck?
> Roger J
> baptist inlink.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:19:34 +0200
From: Marko Err
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Locking hubs

Hi, lot of catalogs sell locking hubs. I haven't found any information
about purpose of those hubs. So could someone explain for what are those
things good for?


Best regards
Marko

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:09:30 -0600
From: "BigRed"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - mass air

Hi all. I know mass air has been talked about a bunch lately (not as
much 20 as amsoil), but I got a new question. I was thinking about switching
to mass air in my 87 5.0 C-6 F-150, but I was looking in a motorsports
catalog and it said the kit was only for AOD tranny's. Is it impossible to....


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