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80-96-list-digest Friday, November 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 392 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: RE: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil Re: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil FTE 80-96 - Re: oil pressure indication FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sensor FTE 80-96 - 5 speed tranny stuck in gear FTE 80-96 - Re: synthetic oil Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesels and stop/go traffic... FTE 80-96 - Fan switch FYI Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesels and stop/go traffic... Re: FTE 80-96 - 5 speed tranny stuck in gear FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil Re: FTE 80-96 - Durabak spray-ins, any good? FTE 80-96 - Group Question Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: oil pressure indication Re: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New Amsoil Policy Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New Amsoil Policy Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New Amsoil Policy Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Re: FTE 80-96 - Newbie w/ questions FTE 80-96 - Self destructing 8.8 rear end Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N Re: FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sensor FTE 80-96 - synth oil works here Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:41:07 -0600 From: "Ferino, Chris" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:29:17 -0500 > From: "Michael Redden" > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil > > My main concern with synthetic oil is I've heard that if you run it in older vehicles > it can tend to leak out where there was no leakage before (like valve cover gaskets). > Not that it causes leaks. Since I have no new vehicles to try it in, I've > been a little skittish about putting it old ones that have already been leaking : Actually, it's due to the higher detergent quality in synthetic oil, which tends to clear up the "nooks and crannies" where oil collects. It also has a thinner consistency, so it'll tend to work its way through minute areas where conventional dino oil wouldn't. I've got a '93 full-size Bronco with 65k on the clock and a '90 Mustang with about 77k - and since I don't have any leaks and change my oil religiously at 3000 miles, the small benefits that synthetic would bring aren't worth the leaks I might have to chase. And let's be realistic - whether you use conventional or synthetic, as long as you change your oil regularly your engine should last many, many years - I doubt that the use of synthetic would buy you THAT much extra of an engine life. To me, this is a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If and/or when I rebuild or replace either of the engines, I'll go with synthetic at that point but for now it's 10w30/5w30 Castrol for my cars (if for no other reason than I have a couple of cases stored up in the garage...) - -Chris == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:33:32 -0600 From: "Rick Wojciechowski" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil Ferino, Chris wrote: > Actually, it's due to the higher detergent quality in synthetic oil, which > tends to clear up the "nooks and crannies" where oil collects. It also has > a thinner consistency, so it'll tend to work its way through minute areas > where conventional dino oil wouldn't. How about this. Its kinda like a seasoned cast-iron skillet. Once you get oil absorbed in the write places it is irreplaceable. But the minute you buy a new clean skillet the food tastes bad. If a person uses this stuff, then they really aught to use it from the beginning otherwise its almost like mixing water and oil. Oh FYI, yes I do like to cook. :-) Just my $0.02 on the subject. - -- Thanks, Rick Wojo '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains '92 Mstng 5.0L '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:46:45 PST From: "David Goodwin" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: oil pressure indication SNIP >>> Hi all. My oil pressure seems to want to mess with my head. SNIP My 93 F150 4x4 351 did the same thing. Traced the wiring to a plug on the drivers side. It probably interfaces with the on board computer there. Pulled the plug, cleaned the contacts. No more flakey pressure readings. Just don't scrape the contacts with anything that might scratch them. Hope your problem is as simple as mine was. Dave ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:30:31 -0600 From: "Neff, Charles" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sensor The temperature sensor on my 1987 F-150 with 302 is off scale on the low side. Can someone tell me what the resistance of the sensor on the engine should be when the engine is cold and also when is is at normal operating temperature. Also, where is this sensor located. I suspect that it is the sensor but if it's easy to test I will do that first. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:47:24 -0700 From: Fred Moreno Subject: FTE 80-96 - 5 speed tranny stuck in gear Hey ya'll, Had a wonderful morning/commute to work today. The clutch might of felt a little spongy when I went to start to the truck this morning, did not think much about it. But driving out of the driveway and a mile or two later towards the "Big Road", when I went to shift, the pedal went to the floor and stayed there. Pulled over, shut the engine off and I could shift fine with the engine in the OFF mode (Thank God), but with the engine running, no way was it going to come out or in of a gear. Checked the fluid level in the clutch cylinder and, yep it was low. Topped the fluid level off to the proper fill line, took about 2 fluid ounces at the most. Started the engine and still no dice. We have no clutch action. Noticed a small wet spot on the front of the bell housing of the Mazda 5-speed. Interesting drive back to the house, in first all the way, although once I manage to gorilla the gears into third (without any grinding!). Had to use the other old faithful - 1982 Subaru - to get to work. I could use some help and suggestions on this one, we have never had a problem with this 1995 F-150 4X4 EB with 302 and 124K miles. It is our daily driver, our farm truck, etc... You know the feeling. When I get home tonight, I will dive into "the Book" and read. But with the recent promotion at work and part time University student trying to finish a degree, time is sooo precious. I would greatly appreciate some input. Thanks, Fred Moreno Autotronic Controls Corp. - Alternate Fuels div El Paso TX (Employed) - La Union, New Mexico (Resident) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:54:49 -0700 (MST) From: Jeff Crowell T/208-396-6525 Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: synthetic oil > My main concern with synthetic oil is I've heard that if you run it in > older vehicles > it can tend to leak out where there was no leakage before (like valve cover > gaskets). > Not that it causes leaks. Since I have no new vehicles to try it in, I've > been a little skittish about putting it old ones that have already been > leaking : I have used Mobil 1 on three vehicles so far, only one of which was anything near new when I changed over. One had 60k miles on it, the other was about 90k miles. The first one (93 F-150 I6) now has 108k and the second (Plymouth GVoy with 3.3 V-6) has 140k. The Plymouth is notorious for wearing valve seals and burning oil, and mine is running clean and tighter than a drum. The Ford's oil is still mostly brown when I change it (more on that later). The risk you run with an older engine is that the synth is very good at dissolving crud that may have taken the place of worn gaskets in keeping the oil on the inside of your engine. There is very slight seepage on both my high-miles engines, but in neither case does any oil make it onto the driveway. > I do try to change the conventional oil between 2&3K miles. I've had > trucks with > milages of 165K and 225K when I sold them. Still going strong. > Those were ones I got when older and changed the oil real often at first. > Vehicles I bought new had over 150K when > I sold them and didn't even burn any oil between changes. > Since the synthetics don't break down as fast under high engine temps, > it would be nice to go longer between changes. I don't really like > to have to recycle the stuff as much as I do anyway. For my vehicle that is still under warranty, I keep with the book intervals. Not much choice there. For the other two, I make a full change every 9000 miles, with filter changes (and top-ups) at 3000 and 6000 miles. That does spread out the oil consumption a bit. This seems to work very well for me. For my Ford engine, the oil is still pretty brown when I make the full change--which is no guarantee at all of oil condition, but it *is* an indication in my opinion. Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:06:46 -0500 From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki) Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesels and stop/go traffic... Lamar quipped: >>Here's a question you could ask: Why should I buy a Ford? The song says "If >>I had some money .... I'd buy a ford truck or two'. Is that because I need >>an extra one for when the other is in the shop costing bucks? >>Two questions in one! One Ford truck for workin', one for playin'. Duh! lordjanusz juno.com "He who lives by the sword, dies by the clothyard shaft!" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:30:39 -0900 From: "L WALTERS" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fan switch FYI Thanx for response on fan switch. Put switch behind thermostat in intake man. 200 deg. F. It wasn't hard, couldn't decide what temp to go with on bottom of radiator... so, when coolant reaches 200 behind T-stat, fan comes on. I guess, hasn't come on yet (haven't run it hard enough). Bart-AK == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:42:59 -0800 (PST) From: shy anne Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesels and stop/go traffic... - ---Paul M Radecki wrote: > > Lamar quipped: > > >>Here's a question you could ask: Why should I buy a Ford? The song says > "If > >>I had some money .... I'd buy a ford truck or two'. Is that because I > need > >>an extra one for when the other is in the shop costing bucks? > > >>Two questions in one! > > One Ford truck for workin', one for playin'. Duh! > > lordjanusz juno.com > > "He who lives by the sword, dies by the clothyard shaft!" > > ha! my thoughts exactly!!! you gotta have one for mud-racin those chevys (and for pullin them out) and you need another one for doin the harder work (like pullin broke down Chevy's trough the big cities!)___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == - -"God forbid I shall go to any heaven where there are no horses." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:18:09 -0600 From: Bill Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5 speed tranny stuck in gear Hey, I have a 96 Ford F-150 Straight 6. I like the engine, but its kinda wimpy on HP. I installed a K&N filter and Thrush muffler, which has woken things up a little, but I am consider on going for a dual out exhaust and ordering a Header for it. Other than Clifford Performance, does any one know of any other header manfacturers that make an exhaust header? Thanks! Bill PS: I gotten some info on this this called the Tornado. It supposed to have fins on it to allow more air into your intake, anyone heard anything about it? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:07:12 -0800 From: Vogt Family Subject: FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle Hello, my buddy has a '90 or '91 E-250 with a 5.0 motor that won't keep running of its own accord. It will only keep running if you continually pump the throttle. Once let off it sputters and dies, if you try to hold it down in one place it dies too. I believe it is a speed density system so I am guessing that maybe the MAP sensor could be the culprit and when we stomp on the throttle it temporarily reverts to throttle position for fuel delivery (enrichment I'd guess) and then tries to switch back to MAP and dies. Not having a scan tool is a real pain in situations like these. Anybody have any ideas? Birken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:24:38 EST From: Skibarefut aol.com Subject: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil I did not mean to start a war. I will address the latest comments. Any further questions please email me directly. If the group wants to keep the subject going so be it. I think most of the group wants to move on. On the warranty issue extending your drain interval with synthetics does not void your warranty. As long as the oil meets or exceeds the manufactures recommendations. The oil would have to be proven to have caused the problem. Amsoil products have a written warranty. Basically if Amsoil does damage to your equipment, Amsoil will pay for the repair of the equipment. So even if a warranty issue comes up Amsoil will backup there product. Using a synthetic oil in a vehicle will not make it leak. There could be a seal computability Issue with original seals on vehicles from the late to mid 70s or older. Any of the newer seals hold up better with a synthetic. Synthetics do not dry out the seals like a petroleum oil will and they have much better seal swelling properties. If an engine is leaking a synthetic may clean the seal and make it stop. In most cases the engine will leak more with a synthetic. On the horsepower issue I misspoke. Sorry. I meant to say about 10% in fuel economy. A two to five horsepower increase is correct. As far as API certification. Amsoil products are API certified. They just do not put in on the labels. When Amsoil products are recommended for an application they far exceed any specification set by the manufacturer of the equipment. Specification sheets available on each product will have all of the specifications as well as the technical properties. If Amsoil have to meet these specifications as not to void the equipment's warranty. Email me for a copy of any product data sheet. If you can get product data sheets from the other oil companies compare there specs to Amsoil. For Amsoil to be able to last longer than any other oil and also be warranted by the manufacturer they have to be made with only the finest products. Send a sample of Amsoil and any other oil to a lab to be analyzed. See the results for yourself. I subscribe to lubrication World, a leading trade magazine. Last month they did an article on greases. They asked a manufacturer why they do not make there grease as good as Amsoil. The unnamed manufacturer said that it costs to much. If you want more examples it will take me sometime to find them all. If you take the time to do the reseach there is plenty of information out there about not only Amsoil but synthetics in general. Anyone wanting to learn more about the benifits of synthetics email me. If you have anymore questions please email me also. Craig P.S My name is Craig. i think some people where referring to me as Chris. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:56:57 -0500 From: "Michael Redden" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Durabak spray-ins, any good? Brew: I e-mailed the Cote-L company that makes Durabak. They sent me some prices right away. Of course I can no longer locate them! I think the material was priced in line with polyurethane paints. Pretty expensive. Probably cost $100 to do the bed with it. With some of the quotes I've been seeing here to have a liner sprayed-in, it probably isn't worth the trouble to do it yourself. It wouldn't be as thick (1/4") as a Rhino-style liner either. I'm curious about other products, though. Line-X, and a couple of other companies, say that their "hot applied" stuff is better than the liners that are applied "cold". Besides the fact that they are less heavily textured, I'm not sure of any other difference???? Mike redden enter.net > wondering if anyone has ever used the Durabak spray-in? This is a > do-it-yourself can you can spray or roll in. I was just at the web > site, but I didn't see a price (it may be there, but hard to find), > which ALWAYS sends up a flag for me for ANY advertiser, if they don't > give the price, they're obviously afraid of sticker shock. Just > wanted to get some comments on it, or any other self-apply spray-in > liners, that list members have actually used. > > Thanks, > Brew == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:12:26 -0600 From: "Karen Dyer" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Group Question Okay group, Here's my first question? What is the best Ford Pickup, give me all your thoughts. Thanks I feel like the '99 4-door Dually Diesal! It Rocks. Karen == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:22:40 -0800 (PST) From: shy anne Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question hmmm...i prefer about a 96 4-door F-350 hehe - ---Karen Dyer wrote: > > > Okay group, > Here's my first question? What is the best Ford Pickup, give me all your > thoughts. Thanks I feel like the '99 4-door Dually Diesal! It Rocks. > > Karen > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == - -"God forbid I shall go to any heaven where there are no horses." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:20:36 -0600 From: "BigRed" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question I'd have to say the 59 and 79 F-250 4x4's. It's hard to pick just one. - -----Original Message----- From: shy anne To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 10:18 PM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question >hmmm...i prefer about a 96 4-door F-350 hehe > > > > >---Karen Dyer wrote: >> >> >> Okay group, >> Here's my first question? What is the best Ford Pickup, give me all >your >> thoughts. Thanks I feel like the '99 4-door Dually Diesal! It Rocks. >> >> Karen >> >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info >http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >== >-"God forbid I shall go to any heaven where there are no horses." > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:29:14 -0600 From: "BigRed" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: oil pressure indication Traced the wiring to a plug on >the drivers side If the wire you are talking about is the one going to the sending unit than I know what wire you're talking about, but I had to replace that not long ago because it kind of got burnt up by the header. So I tied it up far away so it won't happen again. I haven't got around to finding that problem yet I've been too busy with my front end problems before we get to much snow up here. It's a good thing I started that project, the outer wheel bearings on the pass. side was only half there. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:00:11 -0700 (MST) From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski) Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil At 07:24 PM 11/18/98 EST, 80-96-list ford-trucks.com wrote: > I did not mean to start a war. I will address the latest comments. Any >further questions please email me directly. If the group wants to keep the >subject going so be it. I think most of the group wants to move on. >>>>>>>>snip>>>>>>>>>>>> If I didn't want info concerning my truck I wouldn't be here. If I didn't want modern tech, I'd still be using a typewriter, of the era of original oil. Let's dialog! All of us. Gas/Diesel dino/synth ... what a motely crew! Liquid Ring is impressive though! 1-940-321-8580 No $$ interest. Lamar == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:41:27 EST From: MadPoodle aol.com Subject: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic oil Well, had to un-lurk here and comment....... A little background. I run a small fleet of 12 vehicles used for construction equipment deliveries. Mostly F-350 DRW's, with a couple F250's, 150's, a ranger and a couple S-10's. These vehicles are run hard daily, mostly towing from 3000 to 17000 pounds in city traffic. A couple years ago, while reviewing the maintenance expenses on our trucks, I noticed one office had considerably less major engine repairs. Further research found they were using Amsoil in the engines, and the recommended change intervals. Being oh so skeptical, I decided to use my truck as a Guinea pig. 73000 miles, I changed to Amsoil. Thought I was gonna die! Truck went from a qt. of oil every 12 - 1500 miles to one every 300 miles! This went on for about a month, then useage just went overnight to a qt. every 2 - 2500 miles, where it remains now 100k+ miles. Fuel mileage went up, temps when driving went down. For some reason temp when idling for extended periods went up, haven't figured that out yet! At oil change time, the stuff comes out kinda grungy looking, bit feells much better than regular oil as far as being slippery and still retaining its viscosity. At this stage, with all of our vehicles now running Amsoil, we find they get better mileage, and run cooler after the conversion. We use less makeup oil between changes. Still skeptical? Yup, I am.. it But so far, its pretty impressive stuff. Thanks for a couple of great lists here, love the info available! Scott 93 F250Hd SC 351 Stick 3) 96 F350DRW 351 Stick 95 Ranger 2) 99 F350DRW PSD Stick 98 F150 284 stick 99 F150 4.2? Auto 96 F150 351 Stick 2) 96 S-10 (who cares) 92 Bronco 351 Auto (Big Blue!) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:59:12 -0600 From: "Rick Wojciechowski" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle Vogt Family wrote: > system so I am guessing that maybe the MAP sensor could be the culprit > and when we stomp on the throttle it temporarily reverts to throttle > position for fuel delivery (enrichment I'd guess) and then tries to > switch back to MAP and dies. Not having a scan tool is a real pain in > situations like these. Anybody have any ideas? Voyt, Goto: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.c-edge.com/shotimes/references/eecarticle.TXT It will tell you how to get the codes without a scanner. - -- Thanks, Rick Wojo '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains '92 Mstng 5.0L '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:23:28 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New Amsoil Policy Until now, FTE has been a haven from the newsgroup Amsoil dealer testimonials, uns*bstantiated "facts", spam and misrepresentations. Amsoil discussion by those who are dealers or have a close business relationship with dealers are no longer welcome on Ford Truck Enthusiasts. Amsoil dealers on the list should read Amsoil's Internet policy regarding mailing lists. This is now FTE policy and will be added to our FAQ. Any violation of this policy will result in immediate removal from the s*bscriber list, blockage from re-s*bscribing and a complaint will be emailed to the Amsoil corporation. FTE has been, and will continue to be, a safe harbor from zombie "worship our products" MLMs. Ken Payne Admin == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:38:44 -0500 From: Garr&Pam Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question I'd have to say the 59 and 79 F-250 4x4's. It's hard to pick just one. hmmm...i prefer about a 96 4-door F-350 hehe Here's my first question? What is the best Ford Pickup, give me all your thoughts. Thanks I feel like the '99 4-door Dually Diesal! It Rocks. Lets see 1) 1956 Ford F100 2) 1993-96 Ford F150 Lightning 3) 1999 Ford Lightning 4) Any year F350 4x4 with centurion package == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:54:16 -0600 From: "Karen Dyer" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Okay here's my 2nd question does Lincoln Mercury and Ford all one company or does Ford just go in with them at there locations? Just wondering, Thanks! Sincerely, Karen == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:15:56 -0500 From: Andre Roy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Karen Dyer wrote: > > Okay here's my 2nd question does Lincoln Mercury and Ford all one company or > does Ford just go in with them at there locations? > All one company. There's a bit of interesting history there too, but I don't remember all the dates. The Ford Motor Company, the one we all know and love now, was about the third company that old Henry Ford founded. One of his earlier companies was founded in conjuction with a man named Henry(?) Leland. Well, Henry Ford and Mr. Leland didn't really get along and H.Ford was eventually ejected from the company. He was the engineer, not the money man. Leland later sold that company to Durant, and that company became the Cadillac Division of General Motors. henry Leland went on to found Lincoln but never had enough money to make a proper go of it. Henry Ford took great delight in buying out Lincoln and then booting Leland out of there. Especially the booting part ;-) Mercury was started in 1939 (?) as a car to bridge the proce gap between Ford and Lincoln. - -- Andre == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:04:07 -0600 From: "Rick Wojciechowski" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New Amsoil Policy Ken Payne wrote: > This is now FTE policy and will be added to our FAQ. Any > violation of this policy will result in immediate removal > from the s*bscriber list, blockage from re-s*bscribing and > a complaint will be emailed to the Amsoil corporation. Soooooooo Ken. How do you really feel ? Don't hold back. :-) -- Thanks, Rick Wojo '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains '92 Mstng 5.0L '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:19:17 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New Amsoil Policy Forwarded for: "Michael Redden" Ken: The reason that I s*bscribe to the FTE lists is that they are pretty well. Spam free. Thanks to everyone for keeping the spam off of here! Mike redden enter.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:23:18 -0600 From: "Karen Dyer" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 - -----Original Message----- From: Andre Roy To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 11:23 AM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 >Karen Dyer wrote: >> >> Okay here's my 2nd question does Lincoln Mercury and Ford all one company or >> does Ford just go in with them at there locations? >> >All one company. There's a bit of interesting history there too, but I >don't remember all the dates. > >The Ford Motor Company, the one we all know and love now, was about the >third company that old Henry Ford founded. > >One of his earlier companies was founded in conjuction with a man named >Henry(?) Leland. Well, Henry Ford and Mr. Leland didn't really get along >and H.Ford was eventually ejected from the company. He was the engineer, >not the money man. Leland later sold that company to > Durant, and that company became the Cadillac >Division of General Motors. > >henry Leland went on to found Lincoln but never had enough money to make >a proper go of it. Henry Ford took great delight in buying out Lincoln >and then booting Leland out of there. Especially the booting part ;-) > >Mercury was started in 1939 (?) as a car to bridge the proce gap between >Ford and Lincoln. >-- >Andre >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > Andre, Thanks, now I know that my car is a part of the Ford family. By the way do you like the new cougars? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:36:08 -0600 From: "Karen Dyer" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle Not to talk about dodge cars but my dynasty did the same thing. It was its computer chip and some important pump that was all in all was going to cost me around $3000.00, my car was barely worth that. I would take it to a local Ford house and have them do a checkup. I don't know its a thought though. Karen - -----Original Message----- From: Vogt Family To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com ; perf-list ford-trucks.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:13 PM Subject: FTE 80-96 - '90 E-250 5.0 Performance-Won't Run or Idle >Hello, my buddy has a '90 or '91 E-250 with a 5.0 motor that won't keep >running of its own accord. It will only keep running if you continually >pump the throttle. Once let off it sputters and dies, if you try to >hold it down in one place it dies too. I believe it is a speed density >system so I am guessing that maybe the MAP sensor could be the culprit >and when we stomp on the throttle it temporarily reverts to throttle >position for fuel delivery (enrichment I'd guess) and then tries to >switch back to MAP and dies. Not having a scan tool is a real pain in >situations like these. Anybody have any ideas? > >Birken >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:16:26 -0500 From: Andre Roy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Karen Dyer wrote: > Thanks, now I know that my car is a part of the Ford family. By the way do > you like the new cougars? > Very nice, even if a bit big around the back end. - -- Andre == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:29:03 -0500 From: "Mike S." Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Newbie w/ questions Hi Azie, I'm Mike Smith from North Central Florida. I've got an '89 F-350 with the diesel, and I love it. Usually the ambulances and such get a lot better care than the other vehicles, so I'd guess you wouldn't have too much to worry about. There are several hot spots with diesels, Ford in particular to check on: - - You might see if you can get the service records, to be sure of the kind of maintenance they've been doing. - - Ford neglected to mention the old cavitation problem with diesels to their retail clients (not in the user manual) so some people didn't know to take the precaution of using the proper additive. Fleetguard makes some test strips to check that the level is OK. - - If you've got the E4OD, there have been some impressive horror stories, but mine seems to be OK for now (knock wood). You might want to have the pressures checked on it to see if it's in line with what's expected and a fluid change that there isn't anything hidden. - - I've heard that some guys will even get the oil analyzed to check for suspended particles and such. Apparently it can tell a pretty good story and isn's supposed to cost too much. (I've been thinking about doing this myself, as soon as I get one of those round tuit's :-)) Anyway, if you go for it, I hope it works well for you. Ours has been going nice and strong for about a year now, and it certainly pulls a lot better than our old gas guzzler. Mike (remove the 'downto.' for correct e-mail address) am14 chrysler.com wrote: > > My name is Azie Magnusson from the North Alabama area. I've been on the > 61-79 list nearly since its inception, because that is where my normal > interest lie. > > I've come across what I believe to be a good project, and I need some > advise from those of you who may be more knowledgeable of the Diesels. I'm > looking at an E-350 LWB cab/chassis with the Diesel engine and Auto OD. It > is a '90 model (ex Ambulance) with 125000 miles on it. What are the things > to look/listen for in the diesel?? Is there any thing (s) in particular > that I should look/listen for??? What type economy can I expect?? Is > 125000 miles on a Ford (IH) diesel worthy of any particular problem > showing up soon. I've farmed all my life and am very familiar with diesels > in farm equipment, but all my trucks have always been gasoline. I'm > looking to customize this jewel into a sleeper type cab arrangement and put > a flatbed dump on it. Am I looking for trouble??? What could I expect to > pay for an engine if I went to a junk yard and asked for a replacement for > this jewel?? Can it be turbo'ed fairly easily?? What is the advantage of > the later model "powerstroke" diesels over the '90?? > > Lots of questions, I know. Hope you guys can help an old man out here. > > Azie > Ardmore, Al. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:25:56 -0500 From: "Christopher Maher" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Self destructing 8.8 rear end I just investigated the source of a horrible clunk in my rear end and guess what I found? Spider gear pieces everywhere and a split carrier housing. Now my question is, can I get just a carrier assembly with the clutch plates and spider gears? My ring and pinion were untouched and can be saved. Any ideas? It is a 1989 F150 4x4 8.8 Traction Lok with 3.55 gears. Thanks Christopher T. Maher == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:22:03 -0600 From: "bikerdan" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N - ---------- >,but it does NOT improve performance. Sorry, I disagree. When I changed to systethic oil in a motorcycle[no other changes were made] I cut 4 tenths off my quarter mile e.t. Some say due to a lower frictional coeficeint Dan Fischer == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:18:31 -0000 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question That's an easy one, 1976 F-250 Crew Cab Short bed Last year for the 390 V-8 first year for electronic ignition NP435 tranny divorced NP205 t-case Dana 60 axles front and rear The most durable drivetrain-and the best body styling. All in my humble opinion of course, Rade - -----Original Message----- From: Karen Dyer To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:12 AM Subject: FTE 80-96 - Group Question > >Okay group, >Here's my first question? What is the best Ford Pickup, give me all your >thoughts. Thanks I feel like the '99 4-door Dually Diesal! It Rocks. > >Karen > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:21:36 -0000 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Group Question 2 Ugh!!! They took a great rear wheel drive performance coupe and turned it into a front wheel drive car that looks vaguely like a cross between an Acura (ugh) and a Geo Storm (super ugh). Just my ranting opinion... Rade >Thanks, now I know that my car is a part of the Ford family. By the way do >you like the new cougars? > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:25:34 -0000 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N No offense but most truck owners (aside from those blessed with a Lightning) are not going to be drag racing their trucks any time soon. Four tenths of a mile is not a bad improvement for a full throttle drag racing situation, but if you translate that down into everyday driving or towing the effect of the synthetic is virtually nil. Rade - -----Original Message----- From: bikerdan To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 1:53 AM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N > > >---------- >>,but it does NOT improve performance. > >Sorry, I disagree. When I changed to systethic oil in a motorcycle[no other >changes were made] >I cut 4 tenths off my quarter mile e.t. > >Some say due to a lower frictional coeficeint >Dan Fischer >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:22:44 -0000 From: "Radoje Spasojevic" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sensor I have a chart in one of my books that has the resistance values for the different temps. As soon as I find it I will send you the info you need. Rade - -----Original Message----- From: Neff, Charles To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com' Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 3:36 PM Subject: FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sensor >The temperature sensor on my 1987 F-150 with 302 is off scale on the low >side. Can someone tell me what the resistance of the sensor on the engine >should be when the engine is cold and also when is is at normal operating >temperature. Also, where is this sensor located. I suspect that it is the >sensor but if it's easy to test I will do that first. > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:32:18 -0700 (MST) From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski) Subject: FTE 80-96 - synth oil works here No offense, but my truck is starting on first crank, with snow on it (and not plugged in), with synth. That starter screams! That's an easy 10-30 seconds improvement! And it starts like gas, within a half second or two, no wait for the 'wait to start light' to go out, for the rest of the day/night. zya in the 21st century, zeb '88 F250 7.3 rebuilt 9k ago At 06:25 PM 11/19/98 -0000, 80-96-list ford-trucks.com wrote: >No offense but most truck owners (aside from those blessed with a Lightning) >are not going to be drag racing their trucks any time soon. Four tenths of >a mile is not a bad improvement for a full throttle drag racing situation, >but if you translate that down into everyday driving or towing the effect of >the synthetic is virtually nil. > >Rade >-----Original Message----- >From: bikerdan >To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com >Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 1:53 AM >Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N > > >> >> >>---------- >>>,but it does NOT improve performance. >> >>Sorry, I disagree. When I changed to systethic oil in a motorcycle[no other >>changes were made] >>I cut 4 tenths off my quarter mile e.t. >> >>Some say due to a lower frictional coeficeint >>Dan Fischer >>== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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