80-96-list-digest Monday, November 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 389



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: BBS info
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N
FTE 80-96 - GAS GAUGE QUIT WORKING
Re:FTE 80-96 - bbs and bedliners
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N
Re: FTE 80-96 - bbs and bedliners
Re: FTE 80-96 - GAS GAUGE QUIT WORKING
FTE 80-96 - odometer reading
FTE 80-96 - Repetitive Clutch Slave Failure
Re: FTE 80-96 - oil pressure
Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel leaking back

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:12:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: BBS info

A few list members have asked why you must "register" before
using the web BBS. They correctly pointed out that most BBS
systems don't require this. The reason is simple: spam.

Systems that don't require registering allow automated email
address harvesters into them. Registering is a process that
an address harvester cannot do. Therefore, you can safely
use our BBS without fear that you'll end up on spam lists.

Now returning you to our regular program....

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 06:37:30 -0800 (PST)
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N

skibarefut aol.com wrote:(not ver batum) another good way to improve
mileage and performance is the use of synthetic oil,etc. Craig,who you
tyrin to BS here? Synthetic lubes are the best there is IMHO,but how the
heck do they improve performance??I have a 94 Bronco that has had
synthetic in the crankcase since it was new.The heat reisitive
properties are excellent as are the detergent and lubrication
properties,but it does NOT improve performance.Maybe the oil you are
trying to sell here has some magical characteristics that no other
commercially available "off-the-shelf" synthetic product can lay claim
to? Suggestion: cut the spam,tell the truth and keep the freakin spam
off the list..... We have seen this before on this list,and it is pretty
transparent.

Randy Goolsby,LaCenter,WA.94 Bronco EB 85 F-250 4X4"the Second
Amendment guarantees all the others"
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:05:00 -0600
From: "Rob Sartorius"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - GAS GAUGE QUIT WORKING

I have a 1985 f-150 351 2bl 3 spd xlt ext cab and all of a sudden the gas
gage is not registering anything..it has been wierd lately, not reading
correctly or going from full to 1/2 in a few short miles, and 2ndly the
rear tank does not read anything at all when you switch from the front to
rear..

What is the beswt way to trouble shoot this kind of problem?

ROB
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:35:06 -0700
From: Ken Justice
Subject: Re:FTE 80-96 - bbs and bedliners

Hello Mike,

It seems like the subject of bedliners comes up quite often and the same
quandary about whether to invest in a slide-in or spray-on liner.

I sell to dealers of both products so I feel that I have an "inside
view" so to speak. There is pro and con for both products. Mainly the
spray-on costs more, but you don't loose cargo space as the spay-on
adheres to the form of your bed. But heavy objects can dent or gouge the
bed surface.

The slide-in costs less but you lose a few inches in length and width.
Also there can be a moisture problem with the slide-in. But if the
slide-in is damaged by a heavy object, it can be replaced easily, etc.

If you purchase a spray-on liner there are literally several choices out
there (you can even have your choice of colors) in price and quality.

If you purchase a slide-in you want one that won't end up warping in hot
weather. York liners are one of the thickest and seem to hold up very
well in our hot Phoenix, Arizona weather. I have seen several dozen
warped liners that a certain dealer here can't even begin to sell
because they were too thin and stored outside they warped, etc.

If you would like a list of manufacturers of spray-on and slide-in
bedliners, e-mail me personally and I'll send it to you. Most have 800
numbers and you can call and compare prices, quality, etc.

Regards,

Ken Justice
Discover the Working Mat!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:14:58 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N

rokkinhorse webtv.net wrote:
>
> skibarefut aol.com wrote:(not ver batum) another good way to improve
> mileage and performance is the use of synthetic oil,etc. Craig,who you
> tyrin to BS here? Synthetic lubes are the best there is IMHO,but how the
> heck do they improve performance??I have a 94 Bronco that has had
> synthetic in the crankcase since it was new.The heat reisitive
> properties are excellent as are the detergent and lubrication
> properties,but it does NOT improve performance.Maybe the oil you are
> trying to sell here has some magical characteristics that no other
> commercially available "off-the-shelf" synthetic product can lay claim
> to? Suggestion: cut the spam,tell the truth and keep the freakin spam
> off the list..... We have seen this before on this list,and it is pretty
> transparent.

WHOO! It has been proven by various aftermarket tuners who have nothing
to gain from oil sales. changing all your fluids to synthetics reduces
friction...thus giving a little horsepower and miles per gallon! How
much...not enought to tell, in most cases, by the seat of the pants but
on a dyno there is a power gain!

Chris
94 Lightning
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:22:56 -0800
From: billb
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest;was K&N

rokkinhorse,

I think all he was trying to say is that synthetic oil WILL improve gas
mileage. No need for your rant.

Bill
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:13:20 EST
From: Kbeverwein aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - bbs and bedliners

Mike,

I just had my 1999 f250 bed sprayed. That costed only $250.00, under the
rail. My truck has rail caps on it. They guy told me it would cost about
$325.00 over the rail.
The place is called ULTRAliner, based out of San Diego. On my last truck I
had Rhino
liner. This looks just as good as Rhino. Took a whole lot less time to be
applyed.

Brian
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:18:28 EST
From: Kbeverwein aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - GAS GAUGE QUIT WORKING

Rob,

if you have in tank fuel pump, i recommend you change them out.
MY dad has 86 F250 with the 460 and had the same problem. Or find you a
good electrical shop and have them test the sending units.

Brian
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:42:32 EST
From: PDDEAN aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - odometer reading

This is the my 2nd post on this problem I have. I have an "error" ( the word
error in place of numbers) message on my odometer readout. I believe I've
corrected the cause of the message but need help to reset the readout. '93
F150
Paul
Maui Hi
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:57:15 -0700
From: "David C. Johnson"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Repetitive Clutch Slave Failure

Hello everybody,

I have a 1996 F-250 4WD Super cab with a 5.8 litre engine and a 5 speed
manual transmission. I am having repetitive problems with a leaking
clutch slave cylinder. It has been replace 3 times at 13000, 24000, and
50000 miles. It now has 72000 and is in need of another. Is there any
modification or special part or different procedure involved that is not
widely known? Was replaced first 2 times by a dealer and the 3rd by an
independent shop.

I appreciate any help in this matter.

TIA

Dave Johnson

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:25:32 -0600
From: "BigRed"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - oil pressure

So far to let you all know I did find out that my pressure is actually
alright. I hooked up a mechanical guage and drove around for a long time and
all was well. I asked a guy I know and he thinks it may be the ground for
the gauge. I haven't checked yet, but at least I know it isn,t my pressure.

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From: Randy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - oil pressure


>Red,
>I don't remember what truck you have, but is the oil pump in the front
>of the oil pan? If so, the g-forces may be pushing the oil to the
>back of the pan. Just a thought.
>
>Later,
>Brew
>
>BigRed wrote:
>>
>> Hi all. My oil pressure seems to want to mess with my head. I've got a
new
>> pump, sending unit and guage. It just started happening two days ago.
When I
>> hit the gas my pressure goes down until I hold a steady speed then it
goes
>> to normal and when I idle it goes way down. The harder I step on the gas
the
>> lower it goes. I'm kind of stumped since it's all new. The only thing I
can
>> figure is that the oil pump drive shaft is getting rounded and doesn't
turn
>> the pump right, but when I had it apart the shaft was as square as can
be. I
>> checked the wire going to the sending unit and it has continuity. Any
help
>> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:47:53 +0100
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Huse"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel leaking back

>Guys,
>Isn't the check valve supposed to be in the fuel pump? I always
>thought that anyway, correct me here if I'm wrong.
>Later, Brew
That's about right. There should also be a pressure relief/repress
nipple at the filter/separator somewhere where you can check for
pressure or repressure the system (don't use air...).

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