80-96-list-digest Monday, November 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 384



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: centrifugal advance 300cid
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?
Re:FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 80-96 - re: spark plug threads
FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 swap with inline 6
Re: FTE 80-96 - re: spark plug threads
FTE 80-96 - Woe is me (non-starting problem)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Woe is me (non-starting problem)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Woe is me (non-starting problem)

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:26:58 -0800 (PST)
From: "David M. Mercier"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: centrifugal advance 300cid

Sounds to me like the advance springs are "tired" the springs should pull
the weights back to a stop. Your idle speed may be too fast also causing
the timing to be advanced initially. The distributor shaft should move
more than "just a little" when you pull the weights out. This is another
indicator of worn springs.If you take it apart again, get new springs.
Hope this helps...Dave

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:11:08 EST
From: S1120 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?

This is something that is standard practice on aluminum heads. I cant see why
it would not work on iron.
Paul Broadway
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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 07:08:22 -0700
From: Ken Justice
Subject: Re:FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?

Jim,

I use just WD40 on the plug threads before I install a plug. I found
this prevented any installation problem and I never have had a problem
taking a plug out since I started doing this.

Regards,

Ken Justice
Discover the Working Mat!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com
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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:22:58 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates

- -Links sections have been added to.
- -Pictorial has had many pictures added. Pictorial main pages split
up because they were getting quite large.


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:28:10 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re: spark plug threads

Jim Cannon aske about corroding sparkplugs threads and using anti-seez on
them. We use a nickle-based anti-seez compound on most plugs where I work.
Especialy the aluminum head, steel sparkplug and alum. head corrode
fasterthan steel to steel. The nickle based stuff seems to work better for
all-around than the alum. or copper kind. G/L Bart

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:01:53 EST
From: Skibarefut aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?

High temp anti-sieze is a good idea whenever you change the plugs. If you
have compressed air blow around the old plug to remove dirt and junk before
pulling out the old plugs. This will keep unwanted objects out of the
cylinders.
Craig
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:25:20 -0500
From: John Wickerham
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 swap with inline 6

>>Anybody know what I'd have to go through to swap
>>out a 302 V8 for an Inline 300 6 cylinder in my
>>F150. I realize that this is a downgrade in power/
>>performance, but the 302 has some serious problems
>>and I can get the Inline 6 cheap.
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>You know I want to do the same thing but just the opposite. I have an inline 6
>with 182,000 miles on it and I want to drop in a 302 from the 1980's I have a
>1994 now. If you get any info on this please e-mail me on it! ;-)

Well, several have been convincing me to just fix the 302, and enjoy
the halfway decent power. I was after something inexpensive and reliable,
which the 300 is.

John

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:23:32 -0800
From: billb
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - re: spark plug threads

Yes, by all means use an antiseize compound on spark plugs.
What I use is Loctite/Permatex Neverseize. A little goes a long way
though, just a light film will do. Too much and you may not get the plug
tightened completely and it will work loose.

Bill
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:40:13 -0700
From: kroger ucla.edu
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Woe is me (non-starting problem)

Any pointers here would be greatly appreciated. My truck suddenly had a low
battery one morning, when I jumped it, all was fine for a couple minutes
then it died. Several times I tried starting it, it wanted to turn over,
would sort of go "vroom!" but not continue to run. I suspected a recently
installed kill switch to the coil; however, when I pressed the switch and
turned the key, it went err-err-err-err-err just as before the
problems....starter turns but no firing at all. Click the kill switch back
again, and it's vroom....nothing. After a few times strong smell of gas
(flooded). Mechanic (?) friend comes over, tests several things, finds that
if I turn key on, with the top wire on the regulator (little circular black
thing 2" in diameter w/ two large terminals and a smaller one above, on R.
side of engine compartment) disconnected, I can start truck if I
momentarily connect that wire to the rear of the large terminals and
release it soon as I hear the vroom. If I don't release it just does
vroom...nothing again. He also said he thinks it's the neutral safety
switch, whatever that is, because when he disconnects it the truck stops,
and it shouldn't do that. I've been reading the Bentley book on EFI (great
book), Chilton's, and Haynes. First, there is no troubleshooting discussion
that mentions this problem (there is mention of cranking but no start, but
this doesn't just sit there and crank, it immediately does the vroom thing
which I think stops or disengages the starter because the starter does not
attempt to keep cranking after it vrooms. Hope my non-technical terminology
isn't too ridiculous. I purshased a sweep multimeter today and will try
reading diagnostic codes soon as I get a chance. Just thought I'd run this
by the list. This is an 88 Ford F-150 4x4, 5.0, auto, BTW, which is in
otherwise excellent condition and was running
perfectly until the morning I came out and the battery had no juice.

Thanks
Jim



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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:40:04 EST
From: CphgnCwby1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Woe is me (non-starting problem)

I beleave that the regulator type device you are talking about it the starter
solenoid (HOWEVER I COULD BE WRONG). This sounds like a wierd problem,
however, I would suggest putting a code scanner on the vehicle and checking
for codes, if no codes arrise, then I would suggest doing some simple
troubleshooting, found in the back of a Chilton manual. Good Luck, Let me know
what happens


- -BART-
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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 23:10:13 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Woe is me (non-starting problem)

Jim,
This could be a long shot, but I had it happen once on my V65 Magna
and went bonkers trying to figure it out. I remember it doing the
same thing, start, rev, die, start, rev, die. To make this story as
short as humanly possible, it wound up being the battery. The plates
inside were shorting out. Even though I push-started the thing it
would not keep running. Had I known it at the time, I would have
disconnected the battery and push started it to get it home, but I had
to call my buddy and load it in his truck. Only time that bike ever
gave me a problem.

Later,
Brew

kroger ucla.edu wrote:
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> Any pointers here would be greatly appreciated. My truck suddenly had a low
> battery one morning, when I jumped it, all was fine for a couple minutes
> then it died. Several times I tried starting it, it wanted to turn over,
> would sort of go "vroom!" but not continue to run

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