80-96-list-digest Sunday, November 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 383



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 93 van cat back
FTE 80-96 - Re: heders
FTE 80-96 - 4x4 econolines
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Centrifugal advance question 1980 300 cid I-6
FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?
FTE 80-96 - 302 swap with inline 6
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cold Weather and Headers

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:24:16 EST
From: S1120 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 93 van cat back

Hello all. My name is Paul. I have a 1993 E150 van, with a 302. IM trying to
find a cat back system. I tow a boat and need a little more power. I would
just get a cheep after-market system but they don't last long [I launch the
boat in salt water, and my wife drives it to work on week days. A whole 2
miles, so rust is a problem.] I was going to get a o.e. system, but they
supersedes to a system that cost more than $400. If I'm going to pay that kind
of money I wont something better. I have found all kinds of systems for
pickups but no vans. If anyone can help with any info that would be grate. Has
any one else with one of these vans notice a torpedo shaped object in the air
intake? What is it for? I tuck it out when I put in a k&n filter in. Thanks
for everything.

Paul Bradway
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:41:38 -0600
From: "Jram"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: heders

I have an '81 model F-150 4x4 with 351W and C6. I bought some Hedman heders
and I am very pleased with them. They were about $170 from Jegs or Summit
or some mail order place. I dont remember. The flanges are very thich as
well as the tubes themselves. They bolted right on with no modifications
what so ever. All of the bolts can be tightened with a ratchet and socket
except for one, where you must use a wrench. I go offroading when I can and
twist the body and generally abuse the vehicle and the gaskets have never
leaked. Performance increase was noticeable, but it did not make the truck a
rocket ship either. All in all, I am very happy with the hedmans. They have
a pretty good webpage with a tech section also. I emailed them a few times
before deciding to buy Hedmans.
jram swbell.net


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:22:37 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 4x4 econolines

To anyone interested in 4wd vans: I found contact info for a guy that is
involved personaly with "ADVANCED 4WD " and "PATHFINDER" both were the
biggest conversion companies going for a while. Pathfinder is out of
business now and Advaced picked up thier slack. I maintain an Advanced
conversion where I work, we got rid of the Pathfinder conversion (junk).
Gordon works at Advanced 4wd in Salt Lake City his #: (801)521-2334. He said
they will have a web site posibly real soon. This guy knows conversions for
just about anything even vintage pick-ups. Bart

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:58:18 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Centrifugal advance question 1980 300 cid I-6

David-
Thanks for the quick reply. I pulled the distributor apart and looked...
There ARE centrifugal advance weights in the bottom, under the breaker
plate. They were free. The upper part of the rotor shaft was also free. If
I push the little weights out, the rotor shaft turns a bit. The springs
were intact. It should work ok, so I put it all back together. A bit of a
PITA but it now runs again.

Still no apparant advance when I increase the RPM, though. Mystery. I'm
tired of messing with it, so I'm leaving well enough alone. It runs great,
so it can't be too far off.

David Anderson wrote:
"On that centrifugal advance question, first open the distributor and look
for the advance weights in the bottom. Some don't even have centrifugal
advance. Next if it's frozen, you'll have to pull the distributor and free
up/lube the mechanism. After that it will probably work and give the
correct amount of advance since there's not much else to go wrong. If you
really want to check it against specs just go to library and look in those
big Chiltons or Motors binders. There is bound to be something close."

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX

"USA Today has come out with a new survey: Apparently three out of
four people make up 75 percent of the population." --David Letterman
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 21:06:53 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ever put anything on spark plug threads?

I have noticed that spark plugs are often kind of corroded into the head,
especially now that we are using platinum tip plugs that can go 50 or 100 k
miles before replacing them.

Has anyone ever tried putting any kind of lubricant on the threads when
putting new plugs in? I'm thinking about trying the fancy high-temperature
anti-sieze lubricant on them. This seems to be the sort of thing it was
designed for. It would be years from now before I would know if it made any
difference, but I would think that it would make the plugs easier to get
out later...

Anybody try this?

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX

"USA Today has come out with a new survey: Apparently three out of
four people make up 75 percent of the population." --David Letterman
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:05:34 EST
From: DHall8577 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 302 swap with inline 6

On 6 Nov 98, at 13:25, John Wickerham wrote:

>Anybody know what I'd have to go through to swap
>out a 302 V8 for an Inline 300 6 cylinder in my
>F150. I realize that this is a downgrade in power/
>performance, but the 302 has some serious problems
>and I can get the Inline 6 cheap.

You know I want to do the same thing but just the opposite. I have an inline 6
with 182,000 miles on it and I want to drop in a 302 from the 1980's I have a
1994 now. If you get any info on this please e-mail me on it! ;-)

Dave
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:36:59 -0600
From: "BigRed"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cold Weather and Headers

I've got a set of shorty's on my 87 5.0 and I have not had any problems with
them in the winter up here in northern MN. I had a guy tell me once that all
the heat from my engine would go straight out the headers and I laughed at
him. With stock manifolds in -20 weather my temp gauge was right on the N
for normal, with my headers I run around between the O and R. That's with
the same 185* thermostat. So actually it kind of helped my motor in the cold
weather. It runs the same in the summer too. I've never had it go over the
R. The shorty's don't quite have the sound that the full size one's have,
but it is still a nice deep sound coming from the dual's out the *ss.
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From: Randy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Cold Weather and Headers


>Jeff,
>I think whoever mentioned reducing engine temp too much was full
>of...something. I had a set on my old Camaro (Hooker, I think) and it
>had no effect in the winter time. Actually headers usually increase
>under-hood temperatures, but not necessarily the engines' temp.
>Headers that are coated (outside or inside/out, both more expensive)
>or taped (cheap, but will usually void any mfrs. warranty) will not
>increase under hood temps and actually will help scavange the exhaust
>better. If you plan on keeping the vehicle your better off spending a
>little more on a good quality set of headers than $60 fits-all types.
>Some ppl have probably used Heddman headers and liked 'em, but check
>especially the flange size as mentioned. The thicker the better, less
>likely to leak and if they make 'em that thick, they know you aren't
>going to be able to 'make them fit' so they are usually much more
>precise in machining and fit. You could go nuts with all that is
>involved with headers. You can get Tri-Y (great for torque), you can
>get tuned headers, you can get better scavaging headers, you can get
>shorty, blah, blah, blah. Unless you have a race car, tuned are
>usually not worth the extra moolah, the best Tri-Y I know to be
>available is Doug Thorley (last I checked they made none for my 351W,
>of course). I'd say if you got a good price on Edelbrocks go for it.
>
>Later,
>Brew
>
>Jeffrey D. Vlahos wrote:
>>
>> I own a 1995 Ford F150, 4wd, w/ 351 engine. I live in Northern Michigan,
>> where the winters are long and cold. I was thinking of putting headers
on
>> my truck with dual exhaust. Someone told me that the headers would
reduce
>> the engine temperature too much and that the cold weather would be hard
on
>> my engine. Is there any validity to this statement, I don't quite see
the
>> logic. I am hoping anyone can help me with this problem. I am also
>> looking for advice on header brand names and their quality. I was
looking
>> at Hedman and Edelbrock. The Edelbrock is twice as much, but am I going
>> to get twice as much performance enhancement with them? Any help or
>> advice on this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
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