80-96-list-digest Friday, November 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 381



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In this issue:

Re:FTE 80-96 - battery cable resistance
Re: Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 in an F-150?
FTE 80-96 - f150 owners manual>codes
FTE 80-96 - Free Rims(!5x8s NOT 15x7's)
Re: FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck..Fixed for now
FTE 80-96 - '85 F150 Manual Infor
FTE 80-96 - Oil pressure sender location
FTE 80-96 - On battery cable resistance
FTE 80-96 - re: replacement engines
FTE 80-96 - 95 Ranger looses power above 4K RPM
FTE 80-96 - re: f250 4x alignment
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 F-150 cd player
FTE 80-96 - Baja 1000
FTE 80-96 - Centrifugal advance question 1980 300 cid I-6
Re: FTE 80-96 - Baja 1000

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:49:13 -0700
From: Ken Justice
Subject: Re:FTE 80-96 - battery cable resistance

Hello,

I had a similar experience with a vehicle where I replaced everything
replaceable (except the cables as I thought they were in good
condition). But I still had problems starting (especially if it were a
hot day) until I finally replaced the cables. With that action all my
starting problems disappeared! I attributed the problem to too much
resistance in the starter cable.

Regards,

Ken Justice
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:54:24 -0500
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 in an F-150?

On 3 Nov 98, at 21:04, kroger ucla.edu wrote:

>Thanks. I'm a bit amazed that I would not notice a difference off the line
>between my 185 hp 302, and a 240 hp 460. Where would I notice a
>difference? It is exactly off the line performance I want to improve; on
>the highway the 5.0 is fine, but this lady beat me off the line bad in an
>Isuzu Trooper the other day, and I can't get over it (heh).

This broad in a little Cavalier whupped on my F-150 the other day.
I'ive got a 302. I figured it would have more horsepower than it
does. Ah well I bet she had that thing wide open when I was barely
touching the gas too.


You might be a redneck if... You've talked to your mama on the CB,
but have never met her in person. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:14:39 -0600
From: "Ralph Ward"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - f150 owners manual>codes

I have the owners manual for my '85 f150....does anyone want me to post
the engine transmission and etc codes?
Ralph Ward

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:33:11 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Free Rims(!5x8s NOT 15x7's)

Gang(s),
I screwed up. I brought one in with me today but I measured it
at the house this morning and the FREE set of 4 tires are 15x8's NOT
15x7's. I stopped by the post office yesterday to get a price
for two guys that were interested and the cost to Seattle, WA area
was $33.00 a piece and the price to Gaimsville, FL area was $11.00
a piece. Oh, this is from Huntsville, AL. SO the rims are still
available
and are 15x8. These are the white spoke with black inserts. Although
I am missing one insert. The lug holes do not appear to be rounded and
the beads look good. Man you aughta sometime walk into a postoffice
carrying a rim. People look at ya kinda funny. Like I was carrying a gun

or somth'n. :-)

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:32:05 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Whities
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck..Fixed for now

On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Casey Vandor wrote:

> New solenoid, new cables (pos to solenoid, neg to ground and starter
> cable) and a new voltage regulator. Now the truck will start and runs
> good. I am not sure whether the cables or the regulator were the
> problem, but I am guessing hte regulator was it.
>
> Thanks to everyone for all the help.
> Hope it will be a while it breaks again.
> Casey
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I had a similair problem with me uhm *chevy*. I done everything that you
have mentioenned. New cables, "Everything:, and to no success. Finally I
took the truck to and expert and all that he did was put a new altenater
brace on the truck. Don't ask. (Thats a Chevy for ya.) He said that that
the altenater wasn't be charged enough, and when ever I used my lihts or
anything, it drianed the battery itself. So.. maybe you can try getting a
new altenater brace and asure that the altnater is charging proprelly.

This may help , may not. Best of luck.


Michael

93 Ford XLT 302 5.0 (5.0 HO hopefully soon)


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:42:03 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '85 F150 Manual Infor

Ralph:

I was wondering what my carb is on my 85 F150.
It's a Holly 4 Barrel that I think is a Model 4180.
The motor is a 351W.

Mike
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:52:12 -0800
From: "Paul Lambotte"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Oil pressure sender location

Russ,
Looking from the front, it should be on the right side of the engine, under
the water pump, at a quite low point. Behing it, you will also find the
mechanical fuel pump.


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:32:27 -0800
From: "Todd Dickson"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - On battery cable resistance

Some Digital Volt Meters will display 0.000 ohms (or similar) when an
infinite resistance is measured. Sometimes the decimal point flashes or
some other indication is given to alert the user that it's not really 0.000
ohms. In some sense, no additional indication is needed, because there is
(almost) no such thing as 0.000 ohms. However, it takes careful attention
to distinguish between an extremely low resistance and an open circuit or
(practically) infinite resistance.

There are three techniques that can help, aside from throwing away your $150
meter for one that screams "Open Circuit":

1. The connectivity tester. This is an audible indication that a connection
exists between two tested points. Touch the leads together, and it beeps.
Touch two ends of a good wire, and it beeps. Be sure to disconnect the
parts you are testing from the circuit, otherwise you can get misleading
results.

2. Autoranging. If you select the incorrect resistance range on your meter
(esp. when digital), you can get messed up. Try all the ranges, or use
autoranging if your meter has it.

3. Analog meter. The old fashioned needle meters that go for 10 bucks at
Toys R Us (just kidding) are more intuitive and just as good for _some_
tasks.

It's an easy mistake to make . . . but it sure can hurt.

- - Todd

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:01:58 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re: replacement engines

Craig asked about legality behind replacing engines: Craig I have an '81
f150 4x4 and I've been looking into getting EFI on it. Here in Anchorage
there is a city funded station that deals w/IM questions. I called them
about this and I can but they were not as pleased about it as I was. They
told me that one can only goup to EFI not from EFI down to carburation. If I
did, (go to EFI) they wanted the vin of both vehicles, and make sure the
displacement was the same. G/L Bart

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:54 EST
From: IamGoode aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 Ranger looses power above 4K RPM

94 ranger looses power above 4k RPM. It does it when warm, runs fine cold. Has
had complete exhaust and TB,MAM, K+N added. It's been getting progressively
worse for a year now it's a 4.0 . Sean
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:15:30 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re: f250 4x alignment

Chuck, alignment on my '81 f150 was $135 after I changed all bushings,
shocks coil springs, balljoints etc. The camber was way off after I was
finished. after alignment I noticed some strange looking adjustment bushings
on the top balljoint. G/L Bart

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:34:03 PST
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 F-150 cd player

It won't fit like Randy said, but there is plenty of plastic to cut.
You can even fit one of them Chysler sized things in there if you want.
Just make sure you have 5 or 6 blades for the jig saw, that metal
bracket likes to be a PITA...

Casey
>>>>>>
I would recommend cutting the dash and installing a new head unit. My
'87 had the opening to install a Sony CDX-C660 am/fm cd w/changer
controls (no changer installed) and it barely fit (depth on truck
shallow), but I know the 80-86's are deeper. I have cut dashes to fit
the DIN style head unit ('79 T/A) and the careful work paid off well.
Try Crutchfield at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.crutchfield.com and see what they
have for you.

Later,
Brew

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:24:09 -0700
From: "Gerald L. Hinkle Jr. CPA"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Baja 1000

Hello list members. I was wondering if any of you were planning on
attending or competing in the Baja 1000 which is running November 11, 12,
13, and 14 this year. I am sure you guys are aware of the fact that FORD
rules off road racing. (Never mind the fact that Larry Ragland has won the
last 3 Baja 1000's, Trophy Truck Division, in his Ch*vy) If any of you are
attending or competing I would like to hear from you so maybe we could meet
at Contingency Row, in Ensenada Mexico. This list stuff is great!

Jerry Hinkle Jr. CPA
"RULEMAKER" 94 F-350 Crew Cab 4x4
"LTS-ROK" 80 JEEP CJ-5
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:50:08 -0600
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Centrifugal advance question 1980 300 cid I-6

I was checking ignition timing tonight with vacuum advance hose
disconnected and at very low RPM (following directions on sticker under the
hood). The timing was right on spec (10 deg. BTDC).

On a whim, I revv'ed the engine up a bit and saw no change in engine
timing, but I expected it to advance a bit. My centrifugal advance may be
frozen.

Can anyone give me the spec for this engine on how many degrees the
centrifugal advance is supposed to advance the timing at a specified RPM?

When I used to have tune-up books for cars and trucks (back in the old
days) they used to quote specs like "12 deg. 2400 RPM" and similar values
for the centrifugal advance, so you could confirm they were working
properly. I can not find any such spec in my shop manual for this truck.

TIA.

Jim Cannon
Houston, TX

"USA Today has come out with a new survey: Apparently three out of
four people make up 75 percent of the population." --David Letterman
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 23:10:04 EST
From: GLMPILOT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Baja 1000....

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