80-96-list-digest Sunday, November 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 376



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 92 F-250 Inoperative/broken shifter linkage in steering column
Re: FTE 80-96 - Update: Re: gas in diesel & new problem?
FTE 80-96 - F-150 gas mileage
Re: FTE 80-96 - 92 F-250 Inoperative/broken shifter linkage in steering column
Re:FTE 80-96 - A few questions about my 96 Explorer
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-150 gas mileage
FTE 80-96 - Faulty Fuel Gauge
FTE 80-96 - Wobbly Steering wheel
FTE 80-96 - back on the list
FTE 80-96 - 460 in an F-150?
FTE 80-96 - Ran EEC-IV test, have codes, now what?
FTE 80-96 - 5 speed trany
FTE 80-96 - Re:Dead Truck...Again Update
FTE 80-96 - kinda off the subject
Re: FTE 80-96 - kinda off the subject

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:43:25 -0500
From: "E.J."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 92 F-250 Inoperative/broken shifter linkage in steering column

Hello all. Have a 92 F-250 with E4OD, tilt and cruise. Went to jump in
the truck yesterday and put it into gear, and nothing. Column shifter
completely inoperative, felt something that did'nt quite feel right when
i went to take it out of park, but did'nt quite feel and or hear
anything snap or break, when i did it. I did however consequently end up
breaking the thin wire-like shifter indicator cable from trying
unsuccesfully for 5 minutes to get the truck out of park, but that's the
least of my worries. No warning signs leading up to this at all, like
difficult shifting before etc.. Truck was fully warmed up and parked on
level ground, had only ran in the store for newspapers, parked for maybe
5 minutes. Yanked out tilt lever and ignition cylinder to remove the
upper steering column trim, and can see the upper part of the column
moving with the shifter handle, but i'd imagine somewhere further down
the column, something has become disconnected or broke. The shifter has
no tension on it at all. Down up under the dash at the base of the
column, none of the linkage is moving. I did however rule out any
mechanical transmission or linkage troubles. I popped the shifter cable
off of the linkage to the steering column, and was able to manually
shift the trans by hand at the cable, so i could at least get the truck
home. I have yet to remove the instrument cluster to get a better look
at the middle section of the steering column, to see if there is
something obviously broke and or disconnected.

Anybody been down this same unfortunate road before ? Kind of like a
"been there done that" ? And if so what was the fix ? Is this a common
problem/occurence with these steering columns ?

Thanks to all in advance.
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"EJ"
Hamilton Township(suburb of Trenton)
New Jersey
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:46:20 -0800 (PST)
From: David Whipkey
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Update: Re: gas in diesel & new problem?

Interestingly enough I ran into a guy yesterday who's a diesel
mechanic. He told me that if you were to add 10 quarts of 30wt oil to
5 gallons of gasoline, you can use it in place of diesel fuel. I'd
love to know if it is true, but I don't think I would try it on my rig.

D.W.




- ---Lamar Zabielski wrote:
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>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks to all that replied. I ended up pumping out
> 10 gallons of 50/50 gas and diesel. Then put in 5
gallons
> diesel and was gonna pump it out too, but after
> reading more posts, I tried the 5 gallons for a
> highway mile or two at a time and noticed no
> problem. So I filled the tank, added some LDL
> (Longer Diesel Life) additive. Its been fine for
> 180 miles.
>
> Thanks again,
> Zeb
>
> PS: I think my right front u-joint needs R&R, there
> is a click when doing hard left turns and at random
> other times. I've R&R drive shaft u-joints, are
> front ones almost as easy to do? The shop wants
> $150.
>
> 88 F-250 Lariat SCab 4WD 7.3
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:44:41 -0700
From: "Lamar DeVille"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-150 gas mileage

I recently purchased a '93 F-150 with the 5.8L engine. I've done the easy stuff like tuneup and air filter change, but my gas mileage (city) is around 11mpg. Is that what I have to live with or should I be getting better. If so, I'd appreciate suggestions as to how to improve it.

Thanks,

LD


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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:46:12 EST
From: CMYRED1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 92 F-250 Inoperative/broken shifter linkage in steering column

ive got 95 superdutys...if you blow fuse wont go into gear....try shifting
into nutrual
before you start up...if its starts fuse is blown..
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:21:16 EST
From: Skibarefut aol.com
Subject: Re:FTE 80-96 - A few questions about my 96 Explorer

Have you had a good tune-up lately? If the engine is running to rich or
lean it can burn out the o2 sensor. Mostly a rich condition will cause this
to happen. Has there been any gaskets replaced lately? If so was silicone
used? On vehicles with o2 sensors you MUST use a silicone product that says
on the package that it is o2 sensor safe. The smallest amount of silicone
fumes can ruin o2 sensors. Another thought is how is the exhaust? If it is
blocked the gasses will back up and burn out the sensor. I would get this
problem fixed ASAP. If your truck is running rich you could also melt down
the catalytic convertor.
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:48:54 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-150 gas mileage

In a message dated 10/31/98 3:45:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sinclue mailcity.com writes:

>
Sounds about right to me...

Joe
Lost In Jersey
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:00:20 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Faulty Fuel Gauge

Has anyone had any problems with their dual fuel gauges? Both of them have
seem to gone out at nearly the same time. Is there only one sender? The one
for the rear tank went out first and then the front tank started getting
erratic before it finally went out. This all happened within a week or so.

Any ideas?

Joe
Lost in jersey
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:00:22 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Wobbly Steering wheel

I can't remember who had the wobbly steering wheel on the list but if you
contact me, Whoever it was, I can let you know what parts I had to replace and
the procedure involved.
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:00:15 EST
From: ACMERCG aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - back on the list

Well I am finally back on the list! My work schedule has finally straightend
out and I have more time for the fun stuff!!!

Joe
Lost in jersey
92 F-150 NITE
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:53:41 -0700
From: kroger ucla.edu
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 in an F-150?

I really like my F-150, but the thing is, I just want more
power. I almost bought a 460 F-250, and am now wishing
I had. Thus I have three questions:

1. Will a 460 go into an F-150? I susupect it would require the
complete intake system and tranny to be included in the swap,
maybe some new springs in front? What trannies would work
that have overdrive?

2. I know it's illegal in Cal., N.Y., and N.J., since the 460 never came
in an F-150. I don't know where I'll end up living in two years.
Any other states prohibit such a swap? I've got the feeling there
are lots of states where you can do somthing like this.

3. I'm getting 12 mpg with the 302, how bad will it be with
a 460?

Thanks
Jim




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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:22:56 -0800
From: dhollingworth juno.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ran EEC-IV test, have codes, now what?

I just finished running the EEC-IV test on my 1984 Ford Bronco with a
351W and a two-barrel carburetor and come up with the following codes.
The truck is running rich and getting worse gas mileage than usual.

- -The Key-On, Engine-Off test was good except for a code 22 left in
memory.
Code 22 says "MAP (Vacuum) or BARO signal out of range".

- -The Key-On, Engine-Running test showed two codes.
Code 34 - "EGR did not respond properly during test" or "EVP sensor is
high" or "PFE sensor is out of range"
Code 41 - "Exhaust Gas Oxygen Sensor indicates system lean"

Any suggestions on the exactly what these codes mean and how to fix them
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks'

Dave
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:32:10 EST
From: GLMPILOT aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 5 speed trany

how do i get the hydraulic off the slave cylinder
95 f 150 I 6 5 speed F. I.
DJsocal
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:59:09 PST
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:Dead Truck...Again Update

Had the battery load tested...it's in great shape.
New Solenoid
Had the starter tested...there is play in the arm, but it is in great
condition other than that, so it should at least try to work.
All the connections look good.
I bypassed the ignition, and jumped the solenoid. It will click, but
will not engage the starter.
What am I missing? I have nothing left to check, the soleniod will
click, but the starter does not try to engage. I can't think of
anything else to check. I was told that the wire could crystalize with
acid on it and no let voltage over it. Is this a possiblity? Would it
happen overnight like this?

Thanks,
Casey

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:09:47 -0800 (PST)
From: shy anne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - kinda off the subject

like the subject says..this is kinda off the subject.
you see, i'm going to make a web-page about my truck and I was
wondering if anybody had any good ford clip-art pages or new of any.
Thanks everyone! Once I get it together I'll give yall the addy.




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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 09:55:21 -0800
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - kinda off the subject

shy anne wrote:
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> like the subject says..this is kinda off the subject.
> you see, i'm going to make a web-page about my truck and I was
> wondering if anybody had any good ford clip-art pages or new of any.....


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