80-96-list-digest Saturday, October 31 1998 Volume 02 : Number 375



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - plugs & wires
Re: FTE 80-96 - plugs & wires
Re: FTE 80-96 - TBI
FTE 80-96 - more 85 f150..?engine trashed.
Re: FTE 80-96 - more 85 f150..?engine trashed.
FTE 80-96 - Weak Links...
FTE 80-96 - RE: Paint Jobs and Prices
Re: FTE 80-96 - Weak Links...
FTE 80-96 - Future Ford Engines
FTE 80-96 - RE: chirping
FTE 80-96 - RE: Electrical Woes/Explorer/older rigs/bad gauge
FTE 80-96 - RE: BRAKES!!
FTE 80-96 - 4WD Van
Re: FTE 80-96 - Question
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New offroad truck list
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: horn and cruise control out... oops!
Re: FTE 80-96 - more power
FTE 80-96 - grill gaurds
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Electrical Woes/Explorer/older rigs/bad gauge
Re: FTE 80-96 - Future Ford Engines
Re: FTE 80-96 - grill gaurds
Re: FTE 80-96 - Question
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Paint Jobs and Prices
Re: FTE 80-96 - Brakes!!!
FTE 80-96 - U-joints
Re: FTE 80-96 - more 85 f150..?engine trashed.
FTE 80-96 - Update: Re: gas in diesel & new problem?
FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck...Again
Re: FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck...Again
Re: FTE 80-96 - grill gaurds

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:24:19 -0500
From: "Alger, Timothy, CTR, AFSAA/SAT"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - plugs & wires

I have recently purchased an 86 f150 351W 4X4. I am wondering if anyone had
any recommended brand plugs & wires. Also does anyone know of a good parts
resource.


thanks
tim

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:28:35 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - plugs & wires

> I have recently purchased an 86 f150 351W 4X4. I am wondering if anyone
had
> any recommended brand plugs & wires. Also does anyone know of a good
parts
> resource.
>
>
> thanks
> tim

Tim: You'll probably be happy by with 8mm, or greater diameter wires.
I have Taylor on our Fords, and got them on sale at NAPA.
Accel and MSD are great, too.
As far as plugs, flame wars are apt to result from any recommendation!
I am using Bosch Platinum right now (bought on sale). Many people like
the Splitfire, I don't have any high performance applications, just stock,
so I can't say as I'd benefit from the extra cost. Just my 2cents.

Here are some online websites for mail ordering parts and a couple
other links:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jegs.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.summitracing.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.msdignition.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.smokemup.com/links.htm

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:36:38 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - TBI

I used the '88 distributer. I used the entire '88 harness for that matter;
all sensors, injectors, computer, relays ....
All the mechanical bits as well; intake and exhaust manifolds, dist., egr
pipes.
I got everything I need from a local truck wrecker. They charged me $1000
(CDN) to take anything I wanted. I took the the engine and everthing
attached to it. If you use the OEM EFI, get the trans kick down cable as
well. After the EFI installation, the trans modulator valve had to be
adjusted a well, the shifts were far too soon.

Good luck, Matt
- -----Original Message-----
From: L WALTERS
To: trucks ford
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 2:52 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - TBI


>MATT, DID U HAVE TO USE '88 DIST. OR JUST THE PICK-UP FOR IGNITION PULSES
>?
>TURBO CITY HAS A "GM" SYSTEM THEY PROGRAM FOR YOU. AROUND $1200. OUCH. I
>LIKE THE IDEA OF "OE" INTALLATION BET. THANX GUYS, HIT WRECKIN' YARD THIS
>W/E. LATER BART.
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:51:03 -0600
From: "Ralph Ward"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - more 85 f150..?engine trashed.

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Didn't get a response to my previous, but have new problems. Last night in
the middle of nowhere, the engine began making a clattering sound. I was on
the way to an emergency, so I drove another 6 miles to a phone. (police gave
me a ride in their crown vic...FUN)
The engine blew out all the coolant, and will run now with reduce power, but
makes a horrendous noise, sounds like a whole bunch of loose metal rattling
around in there.....hoping it's only a water pump failure, but am afraid it
jumped timing. What are the odds a 351W will survive that? Trying to
decide between towing it home, or to a salvage yard. Previous post attached
for your viewing pleasure.
thanks,
Ralph Ward

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From: "Ralph Ward"
To: "80-96-List"
Subject: gauges? 1985 f150 351w temp
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:09:46 -0600
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I have the above vehicle, for the last month (I live in TX...it's still
early fall here...temps in the 80's )it never indicates warm on the
temp gauge. I found the fan clutch stuck, replaced it. I replaced the 180
degree thermostat with a new 195 degree one (and a new housing, sigh)
yesterday, also replaced the ported vacuum switch, since it was so corroded
on it couldn't get it off the old housing. still no temp indication. I ran
it last night for 20 minutes at idle, then at about 3/4 throttle for about 2
minutes, when it took might foot off the gas, it stalled instantly, raised
the hood and it was boiling, blew out all the coolant. runs fine at idle
this morning (with new coolant!) although at it backfires through the
carburetor and hesitates at acceleration (always has) when cold.
Questions:
1) is it the sender? (and where is the sender on this engine?)
2) should I check for any damage elsewhere from last nights adventure? and
where?
3) is the other stuff likely a tune up problem?

sorry for the ignorant post, I am very new at mechanical endeavors......

regards,
Ralph Ward

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:25:23 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more 85 f150..?engine trashed.

Ralph:

I hope it's only the water pump, timing chain and lousy nylon gear failure!
Running without benefit of coolant can blow a head gasket, too.
Hopefully what you hear is the broken chain and gear pieces in there.
Don't lose hope yet, good luck,
Mike
redden enter.net

>
> Didn't get a response to my previous, but have new problems. Last night
in
> the middle of nowhere, the engine began making a clattering sound. I was
on
> the way to an emergency, so I drove another 6 miles to a phone. (police
gave
> me a ride in their crown vic...FUN)
> The engine blew out all the coolant, and will run now with reduce power,
but
> makes a horrendous noise, sounds like a whole bunch of loose metal
rattling
> around in there.....hoping it's only a water pump failure, but am afraid
it
> jumped timing. What are the odds a 351W will survive that? Trying to
> decide between towing it home, or to a salvage yard. Previous post
attached
> for your viewing pleasure.
> thanks,
> Ralph Ward
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:22:43 -0700
From: "Brad Shell (ryef10)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Weak Links...

Greetings all; I just bought a 96 F150 XLT, Old body style, 4x4, auto
hubs, 300 I-6, 5 speed, standard cab, short bed, with a 4 year/50K
warranty, from a dealership for 15,000...

I've had 70's F's before and am wondering if there are any weak links
with the new ones..

Any help is appreciated

Regards

Brad


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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:19:43 -0700
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Paint Jobs and Prices

I'll jump in here a little late with a bit of my opinion. I've had a number
of cars and trucks repainted over the years. Spend a bit more and have your
truck painted with an acrylic urethane paint rather than an acrylic enamel.
I prefer Ditzler's acrylic urethane but there are other good paints
available. Acrylic enamel with hardener is very popular with body shops
because it is easy to shoot and relatively low cost. The down side is, at
least in my area, even the best start chalking in three years. Urethanes
hold their shine much longer and also are more chip resistant.

Larry


>Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:23:32 -0500
>From: "Michael Redden" >
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Paint Jobs and Prices

>Rick:
>Good points you made!!
>I"m helping to remove/replace bed. If I do there's no labor charge extra
for that.
>Paint for that is included.
>If I decide to have the engine bay and interior painted that's about $100
extra.
>Since I"m going with the same color and those spots are in good shape, I'll
probably opt out of those areas.
>The guy does do restos and has been at it around here for 40 years. I've
seen alot of his work, and watched him, too. His prep and dust free
>conditions are great. His jobs hold up as good or better than new. (Loves
Fords, too)
>Thanks for bringing up your concerns. They're of a great help to me and
the others that might be considering body work. It can be a big >waste of
$$$ I've never had a vehicle completely painted, only parts, so I wasn't
sure what to expect. Those other times, insurance paid so I >wasn't so
interested in the bottom line!
>Mike

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:30:03 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Weak Links...

The Mazda 5 speed tranny (M5OD) is not noted as being a particularly sturdy
transmission, but should serve just fine behind the 300 I-6. Nearly
everyone I know who had auto hubs (including myself) have swaped them out
for Warn Premium manual hubs. The inconvienience of having to get out to
lock the hubs is far offset by always knowing wether you are locked or not.

Rade
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From: Brad Shell (ryef10)
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 3:18 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Weak Links...


>Greetings all; I just bought a 96 F150 XLT, Old body style, 4x4, auto
>hubs, 300 I-6, 5 speed, standard cab, short bed, with a 4 year/50K
>warranty, from a dealership for 15,000...
>
>I've had 70's F's before and am wondering if there are any weak links
>with the new ones..
>
>Any help is appreciated
>
>Regards
>
>Brad
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:35:42 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Future Ford Engines

I read last night that Ford may (for 1999?) provide a supercharged 5.4L
engine in it's trucks(perhaps the Lightning?).

As well, they will provide a 4-valve aluminum head 5.4L for the Lincoln
Navigator(in 1999) rated at 300h.p. (I assume to compete with Chevy's 300
h.p. 6.0L.) They assume this engine will make it's way into the Expedition
and F-Series soon after(only logical).

The horsepower of these new engines sounds great, but I sure do miss the
low-end grunt of the old big blocks. I guess that's where a supercharger
comes in. More torque at a lower rpm. It will be interesting to see the
torque curves of the 300 horse Chevy 6.0L vs. the Ford 5.4L 300 h.p.(with
and with out the supercharger.).

Walt
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:05:54 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: chirping

[snip]
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Question

Sounds like the rear U-joint is going.
Something you need to take of right away, total failure can really ruin your
day.

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To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:57 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Question


>Hello everybody.
> I have a '92 F-150 4x4 that makes what I can best describe as a chirping
>noise in the rear end when I take off from a dead stop. [snip]
>Thanks
>Tom

OR

You could have a SLIP YOKE that needs some grease.

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:12:57 -0800
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Electrical Woes/Explorer/older rigs/bad gauge

This didn't make it through the first time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Posluszny, Walt (POSL)
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 10:04 AM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: Electrical Woes/Explorer/older rigs/bad gauge
>
> [snip]
> From: David Whipkey
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Electrical Woes.......
>
> [snip] Whenever I have the Defroster, headlights
> and wipers going, I get about 10.5 to 11 volts output with the
> vehicle
> in Drive (RPMs lowered). The idle is set correctly on the Truck.
> [snip]
>
> D.W.
>
> > D.W. You're wasting your time and money with a new battery. You'll
> have the same situation(unless your battery really is bad, or for that
> matter your alternator or voltage regulator). Either increase your idle
> speed to bring the voltage up under that kind of electrical load or change
> out your existing alternator for a high output(at low rpm) model. That
> will solve your 'situation'. Otherwise you can live with it, it won't
> cause a problem with your truck. Under High electrical load and low rpms,
> the battery discharges to make up the electrical needs your
> requesting(lights, wipers, A/C, etc..)......when it does this it's voltage
> drops a little. As soon as you step on the gas the alternator puts out
> more and supplies your needs directly(as well as charges the battery back
> up). That's the way it's supposed to work. Walt
>
> ===========================================================
>
> From: Robert Bowen
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - A few questions about my 96 Explorer
> [snip]
> The truck has gone through 2 oxygen sensors in 1500 miles. The
> dealer
> told me that it is probably because the previous owned used Premium
> gasoline instead of the 87 octane that the truck is designed for.
> [snip]
>
> Robert, Loose this dealer and find someone else you trust. Using
> Premium or Mid - Grade over Regular has NO detrimental effect on the O2
> sensor. This sounds like typical verbal diarrhea from a dealer's service
> rep. I know I've been there. There's something else wrong.
>
> Anyone ever experience this with a 4wd? I was told this morning by
> the
> dealership that 4wd is not designed for sharp turns and that might
> be
> why it is clunking. (Although they couldn't tell me why it was
> happening in very mild curves and when I stop and start from a dead
> stop).
> [snip]
>
> You can turn as sharp as you want with a 4 wheel drive(even with
> limited slip axles) and it should not clunk provided your u-joints are in
> good shape and you've got the proper additive in your banjos (if you have
> limited slip). Again....loose this dealer. Walt
>
> =================================================
>
> From: shy anne
> Subject: [none]
>
> [snip] I thought about putting dual exhaust on my truck. How hard
> is this to do? Also
> I am wanting to get a bed rail and tailgate protector on my truck.
> I
> looked in the JCWhitney catalog but I can only find it for 87-96
> year
> fords. Is there any that will fit my 83?
> [snip]
>
> Shy, I share your frustration. I have an 85 and most catalogs don't
> list performance parts for trucks back that far. Especially dual exhaust
> systems, chips, etc.... It's like older trucks don't exist anymore. Just
> look at any performance catalog.
>
> ===============================================================
>
> [snip]
>
> From: "Ralph Ward"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - gauges? 1985 f150 351w temp
>
> I have the above vehicle, for the last month (I live in TX...it's
> still
> early fall here...temps in the 80's )it never indicates warm
> on the
> temp gauge. [snip]
>
> Check the voltage, resistance, & ground to the sender and the gauge.
> I'm not a expert but someone on the list can probably give you the
> appropriate ranges. Walt
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:23:42 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: BRAKES!!

BRIAN, YOU ASKED ABOUT WHEATHER FRONTS. I LIVE IN AK. AND HAVE HAD FUN
W/THEM. I MEAN IF YOU USE ONE MAKE SURE THAT AIR CAN PASS THROUGH THE
CENTER. A HOLE ABOUT 5 INCH DIAM OR SO. IF NOT YOU MIGHT BE REPLACING WATER
PUMP BY SPRING TIME. WITHOUT, THE AIR COMES UP FROM THE BOTTOM. AT HIGHWAY
SPEEDS THIS PUTS STRESS ON THE WATER PUMP BEARINGS. CYA ... BART

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:28:54 -0600
From: full name
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 4WD Van

Hi,
I've got an '84 E150 van that I want to convert to 4WD. Does anyone
know of any conversion kits or drive trains that might drop in with a little
(or alot!) of coaxing?

thanks,
Ziggy
zigzag macc.wisc.edu
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:48:56 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Question

TMac79 aol.com wrote:

> Hello everybody.
> I have a '92 F-150 4x4 that makes what I can best describe as a chirping
> noise in the rear end when I take off from a dead stop. I've figured out that
> it's not the tires chirping. Has anybody heard of this before? any
> suggestions as to what it could be?
> Any help would be appreciated

Yes, check and grease those u-joints if you havn't done it ina while.
--
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:52:28 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: New offroad truck list

You asked for it, you got. The vote to add a off-road Ford
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:12:25 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: horn and cruise control out... oops!

Andy wrote:

> alright guys, about the horn and cruise control question earlier... i
> goofed. don't laugh at me, but guess what i did? when i was installing the
> c.b. i had pulled out the fuse, then stuck it into the wrong socket..

Andy,
From now on when you do electrical work lay off the
Millers until AFTER you finish. :-) :-)


- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:29:27 -0800 (PST)
From: shy anne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more power

- ---Radoje Spasojevic wrote:
>
> Hands on is the very best way to learn, so make sure your dad lets
you do
> most of the work (with his guidance). I always seem to learn by
making
> mistakes but I wouldn't advise this route unless you have extra
money to
> spend.
>
> Rade
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shy anne
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 5:33 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more power
>
>
> >thanks so much. My dad will be doing the engine work. I will help
> >him, but only what he tells me to do. I know nothing about engines.
> >I'm learning though. My dad is real good with mechanical work.
> >Anytime something goes wrong, he fixes it. I am going to buy new
> >brake boosters this weekend. I'm going to help him with that.
Thanks
> >again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---Radoje Spasojevic wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is a F-150 with a V-8 then it is either a 302 or a 351,
either
> >way the
> >> modifications are going to be the same. If you are looking to do
> >the work
> >> yourself there are a few easy things you can do to get a little
> >extra power.
> >> A K&N airfilter is a good place to start out, they flow more air
> >than the
> >> stock filter and have the added bonus of being re-usable so you do
> >not have
> >> to buy a new filter for a very long time. A set of headers can
also
> >help,
> >> they are not too difficult to install, just make sure you get ones
> >that will
> >> fit your truck. Even without a dual exhaust a high-flow cat and
> >muffler can
> >> add some more power, just do not get too big a pipe or you will
lose
> >low end
> >> towing power. There are dozens of more mods you can do depending
on
> >how
> >> comfortable you are disassembling your engine.
> >>
> >> Rade
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: shy anne
> >> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> >> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 7:24 PM
> >> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more power
> >>
> >>
> >> >I'm not exactly sure. I know that it is a V8 but I know that
there
> >is
> >> >a small and a large V8. It is an F150.
> >> >*Shy*
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >---Radoje Spasojevic wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Which engine do you have?
> >> >>
> >> >> Rade
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: shy anne
> >> >> To: ford maillist
> >> >> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 5:03 AM
> >> >> Subject: FTE 80-96 - more power
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >I would like for my truck to have more power. I got the email
> >about
> >> >> >replacing the manifolds, anybody have any additional
suggestions?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >MORE POWER!!! (Tim The Tool Man Taylor) hehehe
> >> >> >*Shy*
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >==
> >> >> >-"God forbid I shall go to any heaven where there are no
horses."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >_________________________________________________________
> >> >> >DO YOU YAHOO!?
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> >> >
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:34:00 -0800 (PST)
From: shy anne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - grill gaurds

I want to get a grill gaurd (or brush gaurd) for my Ford F-150. Will
this have any negative effects on the truck?




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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:54:34 -0800 (PST)
From: David Whipkey
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Electrical Woes/Explorer/older rigs/bad gauge

Well, thanks for trying, but this is an unacceptable situation with a
new alternator and everything including the idle speed at spec.





[snip] Whenever I have the Defroster, headlights and wipers going, I
get about 10.5 to 11 volts output with the vehicle in Drive (RPMs
lowered). The idle is set correctly on the Truck.
> > [snip]
> >
> > D.W.
> >
> > > D.W. You're wasting your time and money with a new battery.
You'll
> > have the same situation(unless your battery really is bad, or for
that
> > matter your alternator or voltage regulator). Either increase
your idle
> > speed to bring the voltage up under that kind of electrical load
or change
> > out your existing alternator for a high output(at low rpm) model.
That
> > will solve your 'situation'. Otherwise you can live with it, it
won't
> > cause a problem with your truck. Under High electrical load and
low rpms,
> > the battery discharges to make up the electrical needs your
> > requesting(lights, wipers, A/C, etc..)......when it does this it's
voltage
> > drops a little. As soon as you step on the gas the alternator
puts out
> > more and supplies your needs directly(as well as charges the
battery back
> > up). That's the way it's supposed to work. Walt
> >



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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:06:41 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Future Ford Engines

Posluszny, Walt (POSL) wrote:
>
> I read last night that Ford may (for 1999?) provide a supercharged 5.4L
> engine in it's trucks(perhaps the Lightning?).
>
> As well, they will provide a 4-valve aluminum head 5.4L for the Lincoln
> Navigator(in 1999) rated at 300h.p. (I assume to compete with Chevy's 300
> h.p. 6.0L.) They assume this engine will make it's way into the Expedition
> and F-Series soon after(only logical).
>
> The horsepower of these new engines sounds great, but I sure do miss the
> low-end grunt of the old big blocks. I guess that's where a supercharger
> comes in. More torque at a lower rpm. It will be interesting to see the
> torque curves of the 300 horse Chevy 6.0L vs. the Ford 5.4L 300 h.p.(with
> and with out the supercharger.).
>
> Walt

Some people get all the news late! For dis going to produce a 1999
Lightning with a 320 hp(rumored this is a conservative number) 5.4 L
supercharged with 45 ft lbs of torque!

Chevy on the other hand is going to make a 400 hp 6.0L with a
whipplecharger! Didn't see any torque numbers mentioned though!

I will still keep my 5.8 because if add I a supercharger to mine to
equal the playing fields...even though I would still have a few grand
left over I would easily kill either of these trucks! I can't agree with
you more on the low end grunt! Thats why Saleen mustangs yanks those
crappy OHC motors in exchanged for a 5.8L....yes even the cobra motor is
lame compared to the 400hp 351 that saleen uses!
Chris
94 Lightning
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:07:31 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - grill gaurds

shy anne wrote:

> I want to get a grill gaurd (or brush gaurd) for my Ford F-150. Will
> this have any negative effects on the truck?

Negative ? No, just the opposite. They look cool and canbe very functional.
They do add a little front end weight
but nothing you need to worry about. One suggestion is that
you get one that allows for a winch install incase you buy
one in the future. Once again they look cool and you with
br able to hit trees without a worry. :-)
You can have a look at mine to give you an idea as far as allowing
for a winch if you care too.

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Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:23:46 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Question

- -----Original Message-----
From: Rick Wojciechowski
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Question


>TMac79 aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody.
>> I have a '92 F-150 4x4 that makes what I can best describe as a
chirping
>> noise in the rear end when I take off from a dead stop. I've figured out
that
>> it's not the tires chirping. Has anybody heard of this before? any
>> suggestions as to what it could be?
>> Any help would be appreciated
>
>Yes, check and grease those u-joints if you havn't done it ina while.

If that U-joint is chirping, it's done ..... replace it!!
Then make sure you grease them regularly.

Matt


>Thanks,
> Rick Wojo
> '83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Terrains
> '92 Mstng 5.0L
> '95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:47:31 -0500
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Paint Jobs and Prices

Larry:

Thanks for the response. I will certainly consider other paints.
I've even thought about a two part polyurethane that is used
on fleet vehicles (Endura) which I heard about from
one of the guys on one of the FTE vintage lists.
He lives in Canada and has not only used this paint but has
had his vehicles dipped in a zinc oxide primer first!
Endura website: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netsv.com/endura/
I recieved the specs on it. Expensive, but probably worth it.

I appreciate the concern about chalking. I have seen a few jobs
done by the guy I mentioned that are 5+ years old and look fine.
He mentions he adds something to the final coat of the enamal
to get a clear coat effect. Don't ask me what! I'm a dummy when
it comes to auto paints! Of course, if I pay for the material, he'll
apply whatever I want... I sure don't want to rush into just
"cheapin' out".

Thanks,

Mike

> I'll jump in here a little late with a bit of my opinion. I've had a
number
> of cars and trucks repainted over the years. Spend a bit more and have
your
> truck painted with an acrylic urethane paint rather than an acrylic
enamel.
> I prefer Ditzler's acrylic urethane but there are other good paints
> available. Acrylic enamel with hardener is very popular with body shops
> because it is easy to shoot and relatively low cost. The down side is,
at
> least in my area, even the best start chalking in three years. Urethanes
> hold their shine much longer and also are more chip resistant.
>
> Larry

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:28:07 -0600
From: "Brian J. Babiuk"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Brakes!!!

At 10:08 pm 10/29/98 -0000, you wrote:
>Not dangerous, just annoying. Usually it just makes you stop short when
>leaving the driveway, so be careful you do not spill your coffee >8^).


EXACTLY! And as much as I enjoy my Sumatran Blend, there is no way I want
to smell like it all day!
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:29:03 EST
From: TMac79 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - U-joints

Thank you to everybody that answered my question.

I was really hoping that it wasn't the u-joint but I guess this kind of stuff
is part of the fun of owning any vehicle.
Is this an expensive fix? Is it something I can do myself? also, Is this a
common problem with Ford trucks?

Thanks again,
Tom
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 22:03:47 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more 85 f150..?engine trashed.

Ralph,
Sorry to hear that. The clattering sound you heard was probably the
lifters or the valves (can't remember which it happens to) clacking,
that will happen when you overheat an engine and continue to run it.
The water pump may be the culprit for the overheating, I'd look into
that. Regardless, the pump failure won't cause a reduction in power
(unless it's a freak think, like the bearings are binding, unhook the
belt and start it just to see). If it jumped timing the only concern
would be mechanical failure, the valves actually being smashed by the
pistons. That would sound horrendous and loose metal as you
described. I'd check the pump first as said before, but be prepared
for the worst. If the timing chain (or does it have a belt?) broke,
the truck wouldn't run at all. Let us know how it goes. I don't know
of a sure fire way to check the timing chain w/o removing the cover,
wait...I think you can set the #1 piston on Top Dead Center and see
where the distributor rotor lines up w/the cap, but the degree of
difference may be too small to check visually.

Later,
Randy (Brew)

Ralph Ward wrote:
>
> Didn't get a response to my previous, but have new problems. Last night in
> the middle of nowhere, the engine began making a clattering sound. I was on
> the way to an emergency, so I drove another 6 miles to a phone. (police gave
> me a ride in their crown vic...FUN)
> The engine blew out all the coolant, and will run now with reduce power, but
> makes a horrendous noise, sounds like a whole bunch of loose metal rattling
> around in there.....hoping it's only a water pump failure, but am afraid it
> jumped timing. What are the odds a 351W will survive that? Trying to
> decide between towing it home, or to a salvage yard. Previous post attached
> for your viewing pleasure.
> thanks,
> Ralph Ward
>
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>
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> Encoding: 7bit
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:34:22 -0700 (MST)
From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Update: Re: gas in diesel & new problem?

Hi All,

Thanks to all that replied. I ended up pumping out
10 gallons of 50/50 gas and diesel. Then put in 5 gallons
diesel and was gonna pump it out too, but after
reading more posts, I tried the 5 gallons for a
highway mile or two at a time and noticed no
problem. So I filled the tank, added some LDL
(Longer Diesel Life) additive. Its been fine for
180 miles.

Thanks again,
Zeb

PS: I think my right front u-joint needs R&R, there
is a click when doing hard left turns and at random
other times. I've R&R drive shaft u-joints, are
front ones almost as easy to do? The shop wants
$150.

88 F-250 Lariat SCab 4WD 7.3

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:45:05 PST
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck...Again

Ok, I had all the fusible link trouble a while ago, and one of the
things I replaced was the solenoid. I go to start my truck yesterday,
and the soleniod doesn;t close like normal, but repetiviely clicks and
does not turn the engine over. Today, I went to start it, and the
battery was completely drained, (the cab light) would only momentarily
come on) I had a friend give me a jump, and made sure the battery was
nice and charged. Solenoid did the same thing, just clicked away but
wouldn't turn the engine. Any ideas? I am probably going to get a new
soleniod tommorow, but what is the problem here?

Casey

The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?"
The graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with
that?"



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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:15:22 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck...Again

Sounds like the battery has had it.
Try a little test. Put the battery on a charger for a few hours, disconnect
the charger, turn on the dome light, attempt to crank the engine while
watching the dome light. If the light remains bright the battery is OK, if
not ......

Matt

"nothing is impossible, difficult just costs more"


- -----Original Message-----
From: Casey Vandor
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 10:55 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Dead Truck...Again


> Ok, I had all the fusible link trouble a while ago, and one of the
>things I replaced was the solenoid. I go to start my truck yesterday,
>and the soleniod doesn;t close like normal, but repetiviely clicks and
>does not turn the engine over. Today, I went to start it, and the
>battery was completely drained, (the cab light) would only momentarily
>come on) I had a friend give me a jump, and made sure the battery was
>nice and charged. Solenoid did the same thing, just clicked away but
>wouldn't turn the engine. Any ideas? I am probably going to get a new
>soleniod tommorow, but what is the problem here?
>
>Casey
>
>The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
>The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
>The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?"
>The graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with....


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