80-96-list-digest Tuesday, October 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 371



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 88 f-250 ext cab
FTE 80-96 - Re: High mileage 302 engine issues
FTE 80-96 - RE: Tailgate Trim 92 F-150
RE: FTE 80-96 - 88 f-250 ext cab
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F350 6.9L Diesel Fuel Pump, oh boy...
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F350 6.9L Diesel Fuel Pump, oh boy...
FTE 80-96 - high mile 302 issues
Re: FTE 80-96 - 82 F-150 runs...well sometimes
FTE 80-96 - Re: 90 F150 Surging
FTE 80-96 - Ford Keyless entry
FTE 80-96 - Re: Am I overwarming my truck?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford Keyless entry
FTE 80-96 - 1990 - truck swerving to right or left
Re: FTE 80-96 - Dashboard Problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1990 - truck swerving to right or left
Re: FTE 80-96 - Whine in transmission
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lightning for Sale
Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I overwarming my truck?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas in diesel
Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel Engines
Re: FTE 80-96 - 88 f-250 ext cab
Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I overwarming my truck?
FTE 80-96 - 4x4 Conversion information?
FTE 80-96 - cruise control and horn both out!
FTE 80-96 - hesatation prob
Re: FTE 80-96 - cruise control and horn both out!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 4x4 Conversion information?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 4x4 Conversion information?
FTE 80-96 - keep cool
[none]
Re: FTE 80-96 - keep cool
FTE 80-96 - ol' red
FTE 80-96 - motor

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:11:37 EST
From: Brazure1 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 88 f-250 ext cab

A couple of months ago I purchased the above truck. Great truck but I do
have a few problems. One problem is that both fuel tank gauges do not work. I
put $10 in every 100 miles so that I do not run out of gas. Switching between
tanks the gauge reads full on both. As they get low the gauge starts moving
from e to f and so forth.
Do I need to drop both tanks and replace the sending units or is there
something that I maybe overlooking. If I need to drop the tank, anyone have
any advice ?

Thnaks

Joe Leflar
brazure1 aol.com
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:27:23 -0500
From: John Wickerham
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: High mileage 302 engine issues

Bob,

>Hmm.
>Does it stop after warm-up? Do you here it at hard aceleration? Or up hills?
>Could be knock sensor, timing off, or maybe you need to increase your fuel
octane
>rating a bit.
>
>Bob

No, the noise from the engine continues during the entire time I
run the engine. I should say however, that I notice it when it
is idling mostly. The noise is no worse during accelleration
or any other time. I don't have plates on the engine yet, so I
have not had opportunity to do a lot of road testing. Hope to do
that soon.

Having just purchased the truck, I've spent a fair amount of time
looking and listening while it is just sitting there running.
Basically figuring all the things I'm going to need to fix.

I wouldn't expect octane rating to have much to do with an engine
while it is idling - would it?

Thanks,
John

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:27:00 -0600
From: "Wallace, Craig"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Tailgate Trim 92 F-150

David Cole wrote....

>......I need the brushed aluminum piece with the smoke plastic strip
>that covers the tailgate on my 92 F-150 XLT.........
>I haven't checked with a Ford dealer yet as the closest is 40 miles >away.

In my past experience they tend to charge out the wazoo for this
>type part. I'd like to get the best price possible, so maybe there are
>other sources than Ford?

>Any estimates on what this part might cost?

I recently checked with Ford for the very same part for my '94 F-150 and was
quoted $256.00. Needless to say that I will wait 'til I run across a better
deal someday or later on when I need to re-finish/paint my truck. I can
live with "dings" for that price!! I've been looking for a while and have
yet to find a "better" replacement. BTW, mine has the black strip and still
has the Ford emblem....anybody else besides Mr. Long have one in "perfect"
condition for a better price than Ford?

Later all,
Craig
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:47:01 -0600
From: DuaneKaufman LunarCorp.com (Duane Kaufman)
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 88 f-250 ext cab

Hello!



> A couple of months ago I purchased the above truck.
> Great truck but I do
> have a few problems. One problem is that both fuel tank gauges do
> not work. I
> put $10 in every 100 miles so that I do not run out of gas.
> Switching between
> tanks the gauge reads full on both. As they get low the gauge
> starts moving
> from e to f and so forth.

I have a similar problem with my 89 F-150 (front tank). I recently changed
that tank, and it _was_ the sending unit.

I can't say for sure, but if you do get movement of the gauges, the wiring
is probably going to check out OK.

> Do I need to drop both tanks and replace the
> sending units or is there
> something that I maybe overlooking. If I need to drop the tank,
> anyone have
> any advice ?

It is a dirty job (at least it was for me). I recently changed _both_ of my
tanks, as they had both developed leaks. (BTW, MTS out of Dubuque IA
1-800-522-1622 has plastic tanks, and their price and delivery were good)

My front tank straps took a deep socket (metric) to get off, but once they
are loose, the tank is pretty easy to deal with (empty, of course!)

The fuel line connectors are the typical connectors found on the fuel lines
at other points on the truck, they should come off pretty easily. The
electrical connector comes off easy too, as well as the (vapor?) connector.
You'll have to wrestle with the fill hose. If your truck is like mine, it'll
have a hose-within-hose arrangement, which makes putting it back together a
real pain. My truck is a 4x4, so it was high enough off the ground to drag
the tank out from under at this point.

Now comes the hard part. I do not know how bad your tanks will be, but mine
were horribly rusted at the ring that holds the sending unit in the tank. I
took a small screwdriver and picked and prodded all rust that would get in
the way out, then (carefully!) tapped on the ring to rotate it free. It took
me a long time.

I suppose I should caution that when working on gas tanks, be careful to not
ignite the vapors inside.

After you get the ring free, the sending unit just needs to come off the
large O-ring it is setting on, and you'll have to fish the whole mechanism
out. On mine I found it needed to have the float held up _as_ it was being
removed, otherwise it wouldn't come out. There is a lot of kanup on the end,
so take your time and don't force it.

You'll have to confer with you parts supplier as to what to replace, but
what I had wrong on my sending unit was just the little ceramic piece that
has traces etches on it. It resides in the little plastic box the float
pivots from. I did not fix mine, as with two tanks, as long as one gauge
works....

To put it back together, just read this message backwards :)

>
> Thnaks
>
> Joe Leflar
> brazure1 aol.com

I hope it goes well.

Duane

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:50:02 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F350 6.9L Diesel Fuel Pump, oh boy...

Barnaby Duncan wrote:

> They want $800 for the job, to replace with new. Is this reasonable? How
> hard would it be for me to do this myself?

Barnaby,
Is this thing gold plated or what ? You should definately be able to
do it yourself. If it is a mechanical pump then the pump will run you
about $40.00. If its an electric pump you should expect to pay
$150.00 - $160.00. Now assuming its electric which leaves
~$650.00 for labor. I guess most places charge around $50.00
per hour. Which means they say it will take 13 hours. They would
have to be incompetent to take that long. And if it happens to be
the mechanical one then the numbers are worse. I would get a
$13.00 Haynes manual at autozone and do it myself. Then again
thats the book I live by. :-) My $0.02

You guys tell me if I'm missing something here.


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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:19:49 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1985 F350 6.9L Diesel Fuel Pump, oh boy...

Rick Wojciechowski wrote:

> Barnaby Duncan wrote:
> Barnaby,
> Is this thing gold plated or what ? You should definately be able to
> do it yourself. If it is a mechanical pump then the pump will run you
> about $40.00. If its an electric pump you should expect to pay
> $150.00 - $160.00. Now assuming its electric which leaves
> ~$650.00 for labor. I guess most places charge around $50.00
> per hour. Which means they say it will take 13 hours. They would
> have to be incompetent to take that long. And if it happens to be
> the mechanical one then the numbers are worse. I would get a
> $13.00 Haynes manual at autozone and do it myself. Then again
> thats the book I live by. :-) My $0.02

Sorry,
I just realized by the title yours is a diesel. The above prices
are for gas engines. Now I'm completely sure, but I still think
$800.00 is an awfull lot of money.


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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:11:17 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - high mile 302 issues

High miles on 302's I've seen is: water pump and timing set (gears&chain).
this summer i replaced my'81 stepside 4X 302 w/'83 5.0L HO. all this was
because 130k on it and timing chain jumpin' teeth. I live in Alaska and the
cold is hard on vehicles if you don't take care of them. but now this thing
is a snowmachine trailer pullin' sob.

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:27:07 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 82 F-150 runs...well sometimes

Dmcomp aol.com wrote:

> I need some advice here. I have (well actually my wife drives it) a 1982 F-150
> SC with a 351 (rebuilt about 40,000 miles ago)with a C6 auto trans that has me
> completely baffled. The truck was running fine until about 4 weeks ago when it
> started acting as though it had run out of gas (coughing etc.), well my wife
> took it to the local mechanic for diagnosis and this is what he did:

Dennis,
Have you checked the fuel pressure when when you are and
are not experiencing this problem. You probably have the
mechanical fuel pump. This could be a sign it is going out.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:16:28 -0600
From: "David Anderson (EUS)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 90 F150 Surging

I'd suspect the throttle position sensor first. Easy to check with a needle
type (not digital) ohmmeter. Look for smooth resistance change while moving
throttle. Any blips to infinite or zero ohms means it's worn out.
David Anderson

>Truck surges (revs up then down, to almost stalling, then up again) at
different intervals when idling. On various occasions it idles and runs
fine.




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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:33:40 -0500
From: JLUCS peddie.org (JLUCS)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford Keyless entry

I'm buying a used '96 F350XLT Crew Cab PSD that doesn't have keyless
entry.

My question is, Can I find any Ford car or truck that may be wrecked
at a salvage yard and pull the keyless entry unit and put it into this
truck vs. buying one from Ford?

And if so what is the part I'm looking to pull out and where do I
install it on this F350?

--JEL-- jlucs peddie.org
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:54:28 -0600
From: "David Anderson (EUS)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Am I overwarming my truck?

What I've read and believe is best is that gentle driving is the best
warm-up. Once started, running smooth and off the fastest idle, just drive
away gently. Prolonged cold idle just contaminates the oil, wastes fuel and
slows the warm-up process.
David Anderson

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:58:54 -0500
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford Keyless entry

JC Whipme has them on sale all the time for $30. Get a free catalog
www.jcwhitney.com .



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From: JLUCS
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 1:39 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford Keyless entry


> I'm buying a used '96 F350XLT Crew Cab PSD that doesn't have keyless
> entry.
>
> My question is, Can I find any Ford car or truck that may be wrecked
> at a salvage yard and pull the keyless entry unit and put it into this
> truck vs. buying one from Ford?
>
> And if so what is the part I'm looking to pull out and where do I
> install it on this F350?
>
> --JEL-- jlucs peddie.org
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:53:38 -0800
From: "Nystuen, Tracie J"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1990 - truck swerving to right or left

My father is driving a 1990 350 engine. When he brakes, the truck goes to
the left and right. Sometimes so bad, it goes in the other lane.

He is a mechanic so he knows what he is doing. He has changed the brakes,
the calapers(sp) and taken the truck to Les Swabe and no one can figure out
what is going on. The checked out the alignment and it checks out fine. He
is very scared to drive it. This only happens when he brakes.

Tracie Nystuen
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:22:18 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Dashboard Problem

Oliver Gresens wrote:

> Greetings from Germany to everybody,
>
> I just bought a '87 F150 with the 4.9 L engine. I have a big problem
> with my instruments, except the speedometer. The Meters for Battery, Oil
> Temperature, Water Temperature and Fuel are not working at all.
> Could this be a well known electrical ground problem ?
> Thanks in advance for any helpful hints.

There should be an instrument panel voltage regulator somewhere
there under the dash. I wold check that.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:31:14 -0600
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1990 - truck swerving to right or left

Nystuen, Tracie J wrote:

> My father is driving a 1990 350 engine. When he brakes, the truck goes to
> the left and right. Sometimes so bad, it goes in the other lane.

If you were going left and right at the same time then wouldn't
you be going straight. :-)


I would be willing to bet its somewhere in the rear breaking
causing the problem.
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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:56:23 -0500
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Whine in transmission

On 25 Oct 98, at 19:32, kroger ucla.edu wrote:

>I recently acquired an 88 F-150 4x4 5.0 auto with overdrive. When I
>stop, then shift into reverse, then step on the gas, I hear a whine
>around the transmission. It may have been there before and I am
>just noticing it. Or, as I'm getting used to the truck, I may be stepping
>on the gas a bit harder now when I back into my parking spot.

I have an '84 F-150, when I put it in reverse and hit the gas a little,
my transmission whines as well. I don't worry about it that much.
It sounds almost like a standard when you are backing up. I guess
it has something to do with the gears or something. I don't know. I
don't go that far in reverse to really worry about it.

>Any idea what this might be, and if it is normal? Maybe the front
>differential or the transfer case? Seems like since it only
>happens in reverse it'd have to be the tranny?

It is the tranny. I've done it a few times to try and figure out where
the sound is coming from. That's just where it's coming from.
Anyway, I don't worry about it. When I changed the tranny fluid, I
didn't see any signs of burnt fluid or any metal shavings. My
tranny looked like it was in great shape, so then I am not going to
get too concerned with it.

You might be a redneck if... There has ever been crime-scene tape on
your bathroom door. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mfi.net/~troyw
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:50:51 PST
From: "melody engle"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lightning for Sale

Thanks, but I'm only interested in a bikini top for a 1983 Bronco. Have
one or no where I can get one?

From: "Fast Ford"
To:
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lightning for Sale
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:10:03 -0600
Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com

Due to personal problems, I must put my truck up for sale.
=20
1994 Red Lightning. 53k miles. TFS Stage III Aluminum heads, FMS 1.6 =
roller rockers, ported upper and lower intake, Kenne Bell Mass Air =
Conversion, 70mm TB, FMS 24lbs/hr injectors, T-Rex In-line fuel pump, =
Paxton fuel pressure regulator, MSD Ignition, MSD adjustable timing =
control, MAC headers, Flowmaster mufflers, Hypertek power pullies, =
Electric fan, Trans-go shift kit, 2" lowering kit, roll pan, Alpine =
6-disc CD- Changer.
=20
$14,500 or trade
=20
You can see pictures at www.icon.net/~fastford/lightning.htm




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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:03:32 PST
From: "melody engle"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I overwarming my truck?

I've been told you need to plug those electric block heaters in while
the engine is warm to avoid a cracked head. This being true when it is
especially cold and it heats up too fast. Sounds a little berserk. Any
fact to it? I plug mine in when I get out of it so it is ready the very
next morning. It's all defrosted and ready to go!

Sure would like to know where I could find a "bikini top" for my 83
Bronco. Any ideas?

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:11:49 EST
From: CMYRED1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Gas in diesel

had a driver put 3 gallons gas in tank,called ford dealer..he said just fill
if up with
diesel,would not hurt it.
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:09:13 EST
From: CMYRED1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel Engines

yes sir,got 2..95s....180k on 1....120k on 1.....one has had lots of trouble
with fuel pressure regulators...transmissions have been prob,but i pull
around 26k every day.
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:28:40 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 88 f-250 ext cab

Joe,
If it does it on both tanks can you be sure it's the sending units,
and not the gauge. If it was one tank you could be positive, but
w/both units doing the same thing it could be the gauge.
If you do decide to replace BOTH sending units, you may save yourself
alot of headaches by removing the bed instead of trying to hassle
w/dropping both tanks. Six big bolts hold it down and you'll have to
disconnect the taillight wiring and the gas tank fillers. This should
give you access to the tops of both tanks. Oh, and don't forget to
stop by the store for that 12 pack you'll need to convince your
buddies they need to come help you lift the bed off...hehehe

Later,
Randy (Brew)

Brazure1 aol.com wrote:
>
> A couple of months ago I purchased the above truck. Great truck but I do
> have a few problems. One problem is that both fuel tank gauges do not work. I
> put $10 in every 100 miles so that I do not run out of gas. Switching between
> tanks the gauge reads full on both. As they get low the gauge starts moving
> from e to f and so forth.
> Do I need to drop both tanks and replace the sending units or is there
> something that I maybe overlooking. If I need to drop the tank, anyone have
> any advice ?
>
> Thnaks
>
> Joe Leflar
> brazure1 aol.com
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:21:11 -0500
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I overwarming my truck?

melody engle wrote:
>
> I've been told you need to plug those electric block heaters in while
> the engine is warm to avoid a cracked head. This being true when it is
> especially cold and it heats up too fast. Sounds a little berserk. Any
> fact to it? I plug mine in when I get out of it so it is ready the very
> next morning. It's all defrosted and ready to go!
>
Sounds bezerk to me too. I plug in the vehicle when I get home, and
unplug when I leave. But I have a timer on it. At -40, it gets down to
'pretty cool' in the block overnight. Then it gets hit with a full-tilt
block heater treatment. No head trouble or gasket troube with twelve
years like that on my car, at that particular engine is know for a weak
head and gasket combo.

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Andre, Somewhere ...
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:37:00 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 4x4 Conversion information?

Hey gang,
Getting used to the time change yet? (Not you left-coasters)
Where can I find information on a 2 to 4 wheel drive conversion for a
Ford Econoline van. I'd imagine the info would be similar for a
truck. I need to hear from people who've done this, or some web sites
that would have this info. Information I need to know the most has to
do w/the tranny/x-case combos possible. The axle/suspension is pretty
easy, but I need as much driveline info as possible.

Later,
Randy (Brew)
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:39:50 -0800
From: Andy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - cruise control and horn both out!

hi guys. thanks for the help on getting a new muffler. i have a new problem.
the cruise control and horn on my bronco both went out. i noticed this a
couple days after i put in a c.b. (when someone going 45 changed into the
fast lane!) that's the only thing i can think of that might have affected
it. i've checked the fuses, and everything seems to be fine. any ideas?
thanks for your help guys.

andy
89 5.0 bronco
95 schwinn MTB






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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:42:50 EST
From: GLMPILOT aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - hesatation prob

I have a 95 f150 4.9 5 speed F.I. and im having a hesitation problem while
under load like it keeps cutting out all I have done to this truck is put
larger tires (31.10.50) and prerun bumpers all around I hope someone can help
plus im looking for a good performance lift kit thanks.
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:00:27 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - cruise control and horn both out!

Andy,
The first thing that comes to my mind is; Where did you tap the power
for you C.B. radio? Did you splice into a hot wire?

Later,
Randy (Brew)

Andy wrote:
>
> hi guys. thanks for the help on getting a new muffler. i have a new problem.
> the cruise control and horn on my bronco both went out. i noticed this a
> couple days after i put in a c.b. (when someone going 45 changed into the
> fast lane!) that's the only thing i can think of that might have affected
> it. i've checked the fuses, and everything seems to be fine. any ideas?
> thanks for your help guys.
>
> andy
> 89 5.0 bronco
> 95 schwinn MTB

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:55:16 EST
From: GLMPILOT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 4x4 Conversion information?

If u find out I need a 3 inch lift for a 76 e 150
Dwayne, so cal.
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:22:18 EST
From: A4T1RAT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 4x4 Conversion information?

What combs do you want to know about ? just about anything is poss. I would
say go with a NP -205 ....I have done many conversions and there is a lot of
poss. combos..
RAT

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:23:32 -0900
From: "L WALTERS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - keep cool

I have a 81 stepside w/stang 5.0L, anyone ever put an electric fan on a s/b
before (dispose of h/p robbin' water pump driven)?

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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:32:58 -0800 (PST)
From: shy anne
Subject: [none]

just seeing if this works




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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:38:51 EST
From: A4T1RAT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - keep cool

ya my 95 Mustang GT 5.0 has a electric fan and none on the Water pump from the
factory...
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:41:13 -0800 (PST)
From: shy anne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ol' red

hi i am new to the list. i was wondering if yall knew about how much
a new paint job would be for my 1983 ford f-150 extended cab. thanks




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