80-96-list-digest Wednesday, October 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 365



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re:oil leak
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bronco lift points, transmission removal
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch
Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass-air/Speed Density conversion kit 92-96
Re: FTE 80-96 - arm rests on 1986 f-150 xlt
FTE 80-96 - bad starter
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Diesel Tach
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Give us your favorite web site addresses
FTE 80-96 - Jackstand support points
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80's Bronco Clutch Job

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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:22:36 EDT
From: BGar02167 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:oil leak

In a message dated 10/20/98 3:47:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
owner-80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


The
back of the oil pan is always wet with oil. I have changed the oil pan
gasket
twice the rear, main seal twice and sealed the flywheel bolts. Has anyone
else had this problem? What was done to fix it? >>

Did you do this fix yourself? If so why don't you describe what you did. I've
done this a couple times w/ no leak.
brian G
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:56:15 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bronco lift points, transmission removal

S. Spaulding wrote:

> Geoff,
>
> There are transmission jack adaptors that mount on floor jacks, but I
> rented a regular transmission jack from the local Taylor Rental.

I gotta say somth'n here. I havn't seen these fandangled(technical term)
adapters that go on your home floor jack, but you must have one thing
in mind. The transmission jack you rent has tilt in two directions which
comes in very handy and can made life VERY easy. Does this
fandangled have tilt in two directions ? Also, unless you have the money
($500.00 - $600.00) for a Lincoln floor jack you will not get that smooth
EASY lowering of the transmission. Even with my $185.00 floor jack
I bought, that I mentioned yesterday that I am REALLY pleased with is
that it is not an easy turn of the handle to lower under load. Now a Lincoln

you can turn with two fingers, Like the transmission jack you rent.

Am I making any sense here to you guys ? Anyways, I am trying to say
is with the rented tranny jack you will have tilt in two directions and easy

operation for lowering/raising.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:07:05 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch

Casey Vandor wrote:

> I borroewed some jackstands that were about 18 inches at no extension.
> I only had two so I couldn't go to high becasue I didn;t have very many
> cinder blocks for the rear end. This job can be done w/o lifting the
> truck at all (I figured this out over the last two weeks on a friends 82
> F-250) With my truck up about 18 inches, there is plenty of room for
> removing the tranny and t-case,

I really can't agree with that but then again I have never changed oneout on
a PU. I would think that the bronco and PU are the same for
the years. I don't know what size tires your buddy has on his PU,
but even with my 33" mudders I was glad I could get my '83 Bronco up
another 4 inches. It probably is possible to change it out with out
lifting, but it would make life VERY misserable while you are under
it. :-(



> but if I had about 6 inches higher, the
> headroom would have been great (so I could sit up and work). As far as
> taking out the tranny and t-case, take them out as one big unit. I
> borrowed a tranny jack and built a 2x4 pad to balance it on and then
> dropped it out. A floor jack will work so long as you can safely bolt
> or attach a pad for the tranny and t-case. (keep it balanced and go
> slow..) Most have the little 1/4 inch holes so you can bolt stuff to
> em.
>
> When you get to taking the bellhousing off, I found you have to let it
> know whos boss. THere are little pins between the bellhousing and block
> and they like to become stuck.
>
> Casey
>
> >>>>>and get it out safely. I probably oughta invest in new equip
> anyway.
> Also, I think there's a company that sells a special mount for lowering
> a
> transmission out w/a floor jack? Not sure if this exists or if its safe
> &
> works OK?
>
> Thanks again for all the help,
>
> Geof
>
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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:53:51 -0500
From: "Gary W Beyer"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch

NEVER EVER EVER use cinder blocks to support a vehicle that you are gonna
crawl under! They can suddenly crush with a similar effect ON YOUR BODY!!!
It is a well know fact that concrete has very little strength in expansion
or bending, which is exactly what you are doing when you set a tire or
frame part on the block. In normal use (buildings) the force on the
concrete is compressive force only which the concrete can handle very well.

Gary


>Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:09:22 PDT
>From: "Casey Vandor"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch

>I borroewed some jackstands that were about 18 inches at no extension.
>I only had two so I couldn't go to high becasue I didn;t have very many
>cinder blocks for the rear end.

>Casey


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:27:23 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch

Gary W Beyer wrote:

> NEVER EVER EVER use cinder blocks to support a vehicle that you are gonna
> crawl under! They can suddenly crush with a similar effect ON YOUR BODY!!!
> It is a well know fact that concrete has very little strength in expansion
> or bending, which is exactly what you are doing when you set a tire or
> frame part on the block. In normal use (buildings) the force on the
> concrete is compressive force only which the concrete can handle very well.

GOOD POINT !!!

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:45:08 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Mass-air/Speed Density conversion kit 92-96

FLR150 aol.com wrote:
>
> I would like to ask all of you if you know of anyone that sells a speed
> >density to massair conversion kit for the 94 model 5.0Lw/AODE trans. I have
> >checked with SVO and the only ones they have are for the manual trans. and
> for
> >the AOD or E40D. I am trying to make my 94 Flareside just a little bit
> quicker
> >and also so I can do more upgrades later on down the road. Or if any of you
> >know of a technician or company that is a wizard with the stock speed density
> >system, please Email me at FLR150 aol.com.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Wayne Foy


Try Racer Walsh...http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.racerwalsh.com or Downs
Fords...http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.downsford.com
Let me know if you don't get it from one of these two companies and I
will dig up some more information!
Good Luck
Chris
94 Lightning #381
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:17:09 -0400
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - arm rests on 1986 f-150 xlt

You can check out the junkyard for armrests.

For $130, or so, you can buy a complete new door
panel from Coverlay.
Their url is
JC Whitney also carries their products.

Mike

redden enter.net
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:19:39 -0700
From: Rene Poulin
Subject: FTE 80-96 - bad starter

Thanks for sharing your experience guys. I will get a replacement
ignition switch and pull the starter and have a look.

Rene
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:13:56 EDT
From: CMYRED1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Diesel Tach

I tried www.abol.com/user/jlester.....got no answer..are you sure of address?
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:59:03 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Give us your favorite web site addresses

FTE is planning to expand the links pages considerably.
Please send us (kpayne ford-trucks.com) your favorite
automotive and truck links or even your web site if
its auto or truck related. It does not have to be
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Regards,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:13:09 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Jackstand support points

Forwarded for: Geoffrey Schrag

Thanks Again Rick, Casey & Steve for help with Jack and clutch questions.
There is one last thing I've been wondering about. The manuals alway say
that when working under a vehicle you should support it by the frame, but
it seems like with these trucks its safe to stick the stands under the
axles, just in from the wheels. You can get the vehicle raised higher this
way. I'm wondering if this might be more *nstable or unsafe than sticking
them under the frame.

Geof
80' Bronco
351M, 4sp


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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:38:03 -0400
From: "msalvetti"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80 Bronco Clutch

Casey Vandor wrote:

>I borroewed some jackstands that were about 18 inches at no extension.
>I only had two so I couldn't go to high becasue I didn;t have very many
>cinder blocks for the rear end. This job can be done w/o lifting the ...

Careful! Cinder blocks have been known to crumble! I would never get
under a vehicle held up by cinder blocks. When I did the clutch on my 1986
F150 last summer, I didn't have any trouble getting the tranny out using
regular jackstands. I would guess the Bronco is similar, already having
quite a bit of ground clearance.

Good luck! Hope this helps.

Mark Salvetti
1986 F150 5L-4spd
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:51:38 PDT
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80's Bronco Clutch Job

I should have worded that different. I wouldn't ever use the square
blocks with the hole in them. I was reffering to the 12x12 prepoured
footings. We call them cinder blocks. Thanks for pointing that out
though, safety should always be first.

Thanks
Casey

Careful! Cinder blocks have been known to crumble! I would never get
under a vehicle held up by cinder blocks. When I did the clutch on my
1986
F150 last summer, I didn't have any trouble getting the tranny out using
regular jackstands. I would guess the Bronco is similar, already having
quite a bit of ground clearance.....


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