80-96-list-digest Monday, October 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 363



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool
Re: FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool
FTE 80-96 - Bronco lift points, transmission removal
FTE 80-96 - '88 Windshield trim
FTE 80-96 - Bad Starter
FTE 80-96 - Lift for a 89' Bronco
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Starter
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lift for a 89' Bronco
FTE 80-96 - Diesel tach

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Date: 18 Oct 98 10:14:34 EDT
From: CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool

I'm converting my 96 F150 4x4 to Warn manual hubs.
I've got everything apart down to the wheel retainer.
I went looking at AutoZone and a local parts store for
a socket to get this rascal off with - no dice.
Two questions:
1) If you've done this, where'd you get your tool? :)
I'm checking with NAPA and a heavy truck place on
Monday - neither are open today.
2) If someone has a wheel retainer that they've taken
off, can you give me the dimensions? I can make a
tool to remove it with (run a machine shop), but it's
pretty hard to measure it in place. I need to know
diameter and distance across flats.
Thanks,
Chuck

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:34:22 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool

That's interesting because I did not have to remove the axle nut (I assume
that's what you are taking about) when I installed manual hubs on my '90.
Nevertheless I have seen the special sockets for removing them at most auto
parts stores. I will try and measure mine and post the specs to you...if I
can find it in my "tool pile".

Rade
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From: CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 3:15 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool


>I'm converting my 96 F150 4x4 to Warn manual hubs.
>I've got everything apart down to the wheel retainer.
>I went looking at AutoZone and a local parts store for
>a socket to get this rascal off with - no dice.
>Two questions:
> 1) If you've done this, where'd you get your tool? :)
> I'm checking with NAPA and a heavy truck place on
>Monday - neither are open today.
> 2) If someone has a wheel retainer that they've taken
>off, can you give me the dimensions? I can make a
>tool to remove it with (run a machine shop), but it's
>pretty hard to measure it in place. I need to know
>diameter and distance across flats.
>Thanks,
>Chuck
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:53:21 -0500
From: "Chad A. Dietrich"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?

Dave,
The junkyard charged me $10 for the tach. They are not hard to put
in the only tricky thing is the head light and wipper control. You have to
take the knobs out befor the front panel will come out, there is a little
button on the swithc box of each that releases the knobs. I have an XL so
none of the wiring was there so I had to run that which is reletively
easy. Only thing you want to watch for is if the panel doesn't want to
come off there are probably some hidden screws. If you want more detailed
wiring or installation instructions let me know off list.
machz pconline.com

dhollingworth juno.com wrote:

> Chad,
> How much did the junkyard charge for the tach and how hard is it to
> install in your dash? I have been wanting to do this on my Bronco for
> years.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:36:42 -0500 "Chad A. Dietrich"
> writes:
> >Steve,
> > My 86 had the same blank spot and I thought that you could
> >only put
> >a tach in it. At the junkyard one day I saw trucks with tachs in some
> >and
> >clocks in the othe both looked like ford issue. I ended up putting a
> >tach
> >in and I love haveing one there.
> >
> >Steve Randa wrote:
> >
> >> On 80-86 models, what went in the middle of the gauge pod. My truck
> >has
> >> nothing at the moment and was curious what could have been there.
> >>
> >> Steve Randa
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:09:27 -0500
From: "Chad A. Dietrich"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Wheel retainer tool

I just did this last week I bought my tool at napa. Just make sure you
know what axel you have the dana 44 axel tool was $11 the dana 50 axel
tool was $22 just make sure you get the right one so you don't have to
run back and get the right one. if you have the dana 44 it has a child
proof nut you need to apply inward presure to dissengae the locking
mechanism.
hope this helps

CharlesASkarsaune eaton.com wrote:

> I'm converting my 96 F150 4x4 to Warn manual hubs.
> I've got everything apart down to the wheel retainer.
> I went looking at AutoZone and a local parts store for
> a socket to get this rascal off with - no dice.
> Two questions:
> 1) If you've done this, where'd you get your tool? :)
> I'm checking with NAPA and a heavy truck place on
> Monday - neither are open today.
> 2) If someone has a wheel retainer that they've taken
> off, can you give me the dimensions? I can make a
> tool to remove it with (run a machine shop), but it's
> pretty hard to measure it in place. I need to know
> diameter and distance across flats.
> Thanks,
> Chuck
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:19:30 -0500
From: Geoffrey Schrag
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bronco lift points, transmission removal

Thanks Jeff, Casey, and Rick for the clutch R&R info. I still haven't
had a go at trying to replace this yet. I'm still piecing together
everything I need. I was wondering what locations(frame) & equip(size &
height of jackstands?) you guys use for lifting and supporting Broncos for
this kind of work. The Haynes manual doesn't say much and I don't have
much experience with these trucks. I think I'm going to have to buy new
jackstands to get the height and clearance I need to drop the transmission
and get it out safely. I probably oughta invest in new equip anyway.
Also, I think there's a company that sells a special mount for lowering a
transmission out w/a floor jack? Not sure if this exists or if its safe &
works OK?

Thanks again for all the help,

Geof
- -immobile 80' Ford Bronco
351M, 4sp
- -70's Schwinn 10speed(I hope I get the truck fixed soon!)


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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:11:45 EDT
From: Pjx488 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '88 Windshield trim

Can anyone tell me how to remove the chrome trim from the border of the
windshield of my 1988 F-150 Pickup? Is any special tool needed?


Paul
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:38:18 -0700
From: Rene Poulin
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bad Starter

The starter on my 84 F150 300 I6 seems to be going for the second time.
I just replaced it with a rebuilt starter last year. Now it spins out
again like the bendix drive gear is shot. Right now if it doesn't catch
after a few tries I can get it to engage by moving the flywheel ring
gear by pushing on the truck while it is in gear. Anyone else find these
particular starters problematic? A related problem I have noticed
lately is that the ignition lock sticks and does not return from
powering the starter smoothly and I can hear the starter still turning
once the motor fires up until I fiddle with the key to get it stopped.
Any advise about this problem would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Rene
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:56:11 -0500
From: Travis
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lift for a 89' Bronco

Hi, I've got an 89 full-size 4x4 Bronco running 32 X 11.50 BFG A/Ts, and I'd
like to be able to run 35 inch tires on it, what type of lift, what brand is
the best, and how high of a lift would I need? What about if I wanted to
run 38 inch tires? What other parts (steering, etc) would need to be
replaced to lift my Bronco to run 35s or 38s? How would my gas mileage be
affected? And lastly, how unsafe would the lift and tires make my Bronco?
Please e-mail me at reddog viptx.net if you can help me with any of these
questions...Thanks.

Travis

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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:20:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Starter

Buy your starter from Parts America, lifetime guarantee. I bought one for my
diesel last summer, $250. After the engine was rebuilt this summer, it
became hard starting again, acting like the old starter, so took it back, no
problem no questions, just apologies from the counter guy. (It turned out
being a bad batt tho. oh well new rebuilt starter now with the new
rebuilt engine)

But it sounds like it could be there are a few teeth missing on your flywheel.

(I don't mean that as in 'you aren't playing with a full deck' )

Maybe a shot of wd40 into your ignition sw. ??

good luck,
zya

At 08:38 PM 10/18/98 -0700, 80-96-list ford-trucks.com wrote:
>The starter on my 84 F150 300 I6 seems to be going for the second time.
>I just replaced it with a rebuilt starter last year. Now it spins out
>again like the bendix drive gear is shot. Right now if it doesn't catch
>after a few tries I can get it to engage by moving the flywheel ring
>gear by pushing on the truck while it is in gear. Anyone else find these
>particular starters problematic? A related problem I have noticed
>lately is that the ignition lock sticks and does not return from
>powering the starter smoothly and I can hear the starter still turning
>once the motor fires up until I fiddle with the key to get it stopped.
>Any advise about this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Rene
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:01:29 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lift for a 89' Bronco

The minimum lift you need in order to run 35" tires would be a four inch
(assuming you are going to flex the suspension off-road). In order to fit
38's you are probably looking at a six inch suspension lift with a body lift
as well. There are two basic types of lifts out there for IFS Fords. The
"cheap" lift which uses drop brackets to relocate the stock radius arms and
the "nore Expensive" lift which uses longer radius arms to drop the axle.
In the back you can achieve lift through blocks, add-a-leafs, or arched
replacement springs. If you plan on doing any serious off-road work then
you are going ot be better off with the extended radius arms and taller rear
spring set-up. The longer radius arms allow much greater articulation over
the stock arms. Having gone on trail rides with a couple of Bronco list
members (Joe C. and Kurt H.) who both have four inch lifts I must say that
the improvement over stock (me) is dramatic.

Rade
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From: Travis
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 3:59 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lift for a 89' Bronco


>Hi, I've got an 89 full-size 4x4 Bronco running 32 X 11.50 BFG A/Ts, and
I'd
>like to be able to run 35 inch tires on it, what type of lift, what brand
is
>the best, and how high of a lift would I need? What about if I wanted to
>run 38 inch tires? What other parts (steering, etc) would need to be
>replaced to lift my Bronco to run 35s or 38s? How would my gas mileage be
>affected? And lastly, how unsafe would the lift and tires make my Bronco?
>Please e-mail me at reddog viptx.net if you can help me with any of these
>questions...Thanks.
>
>Travis
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:38:55 +0200
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Huse"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Diesel tach

I've been trying to locate an aftermarket tach for my -90 Club Wagon
7.3, but to no avail. Can you guys point me in the right direction? (Gas
tachs won't work, and I want one not too big - approx. 2" dia.).
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1 Groenendael, 4 yrs
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