80-96-list-digest Sunday, October 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 362



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - gas gauge problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Side view mirrors
RE: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Off-road list vote
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Off-road list vote
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 80-96 - Light Truck and Bronco Trailer Towing Package Wiring kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - Octane Reply
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Octane
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:05:32 -0400
From: Andre Roy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - gas gauge problems

henry patino wrote:
>
> Fellow FTE
>
> I have a '93 Ranger 4X2 (3.0) with approx. 77,800 mi. The fuel gauge on the truck > stopped working about a year or so ago. The gauge likes to 'dance' as I call it. > It moves crazily from F to E whenever it feels like it. The rest of the time it > > just stays on 'E'. .......
>
Sounds like an intermittantly open wire. On my dual-tanker, the guage
would always read E for the rear. A P.O. modified wiring harness had
come loose in the dash. I reattached it and it works fine now.

You'll have to start tracing the wires and look for an open circuit
somewhere. Anywhere between the guage and the sending unit. Lots of fun
(not!)

- --
Andre, Somewhere ...
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:36:42 -0500
From: "Chad A. Dietrich"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?

Steve,
My 86 had the same blank spot and I thought that you could only put
a tach in it. At the junkyard one day I saw trucks with tachs in some and
clocks in the othe both looked like ford issue. I ended up putting a tach
in and I love haveing one there.

Steve Randa wrote:

> On 80-86 models, what went in the middle of the gauge pod. My truck has
> nothing at the moment and was curious what could have been there.
>
> Steve Randa
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:40:38 -0500
From: "Chad A. Dietrich"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Side view mirrors

Steve
one of my friends had this done. He bought the mirrors and went to a
local body shop where the took off the old ones, filled the holes and
installed the new ones for about $25 aside.

Steve Randa wrote:

> I couldn't remember if I posted this question previously, so if I did I
> appologize. I was wanting to know if anyone has replaced their side view
> mirrors with the later versions like on 92-96s. I've seen it done in the
> rags but I wondered if it was a bolt on or took a bit of fab work.
>
> Steve Randa
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:34:37 -0400
From: "John Meade"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?

The spot in the center of the cluster is for a tachometer, Steve. The 80-86
clock is digital and fits in the space above the radio.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Michael J.
> Pasznik, Jr.
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 5:41 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?
>
>
> Steve,
>
> My '84 Bronco XLT had a tach there.
>
> -Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Randa
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 5:06 PM
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?
>
>
> On 80-86 models, what went in the middle of the gauge pod. My truck has
> nothing at the moment and was curious what could have been there.
>
> Steve Randa
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:12:30 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Off-road list vote

Ken,
Is the voting for the t-shirt design back-up?

Bob


Ken Payne wrote:

> Check out the voting center on the web site. There's a
> new vote in place as to whether you'd like to see FTE
> start a off-road/4x4 list.
>
> Ken Payne
> CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:26:30 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Off-road list vote

I have deleted them yet. You can just ignore them.
Ken

At 12:12 PM 10/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Ken,
>Is the voting for the t-shirt design back-up?
>
>Bob

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:36:44 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Web site updates

1. Clifford Performance added to Misc. Vehicles sites in links section.
2. Pictorial additions:
1950 F1
1953 F100
1959 F100
1967 F100
1977 F150
1979 F150
1983 F150
1985 F150
1987 F150 XLT
1998 F150 XL
1998 Ranger
1999 F250 SD
1999 F250 SD
3. Hydraulic Clutch Troubleshooting added to articles section.

Later,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:42:40 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Light Truck and Bronco Trailer Towing Package Wiring kit

Thought someone may have a need for this.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

>To: "Leigh DuPre'"
>From: Ken Payne
>Subject: Re: Something for Free
>
>At 04:31 PM 10/8/98 +0000, you wrote:
>>RE: Light Truck and Bronco Trailer Towing Package Wiring Kit
>>
>>While clearing out some stuff accumulated over the years I discovered a
>>Light Truck and Bronco Trailer Towing Package Wiring Kit for a Ford
>>product. The electrical drawing is dated 11-11-81.
>>
>>If any of you fellows want this kit Iíll be glad to mail it to you. I
>>would like one dollar for postage.
>>
>>Let me know your mailing address. Iíll include an addressed envelope so
>>you can send me your dollar.
>>
>>Leigh
>>
>>
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:43:31 -0400
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Octane Reply

On 12 Oct 98, at 15:59, Posluszny, Walt (POSL) wrote:

>[Troy, my note said YOUR normal driving conditions. For you and your
>truck what you described above IS normal. Use the lowest octane you can
>with out pinging. Normal is a relative term for everyone]

I figured you meant normal by going pretty much the same speed,
that kind of thing.

>[I wish I could help. My 85 F-150 built in 84 pings like hell on 87
>octane but I think my Carb Feedback Solenoid is leaking. (I can disable it
>and it doesn't ping). My rig is a 351 - 2V with a 4 spd manual and it was
>designed to run on regular. Or so my manual claims, but it won't, for now,
>at least until I fix the solenoid.]

I tried the 87 the other day when I stopped. The thing knocked
something awful, mostly when trying to go up hills, and when I was
accelerating a little harder, like for passing and that kind of thing. I
went ahead and put $5 of the 94 in to try and balance the thing out.
I've done answered my own question. 89 it is.

Thanks for the help ya'll.

You might be a redneck if... You burn your yard rather than mow it.
- Jeff Foxworthy


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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:43:31 -0400
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Octane

On 11 Oct 98, at 21:04, Paul M Radecki wrote:

>Chemically, Octane is a big long hairy chain of 8 carbon atoms:
> As if this wasn't complicated enough, I believe modern gas uses
>"octane-like" petrochamicals to simulate the effect produced by real
>octane with lower emissions. Nonetheless, the theory should hold.
> In my experience, your truck should not need more than 87
>"octane" gas, though you might want to run some Techron or other
>buildup-remover through it before you decide for sure. Deposits can
>cause detonation, leading to higher octane gas, leading to more
>deposits... ;-)

What about fuel injector cleaner? Even though it doesn't have fuel
injection, it should clean the fuel system. Either that, or some kind
of a fuel system cleaner, or transmission fluid should work. Just
make sure that you have a full tank when you put a quart of the
fluid in.

> BTW, I just filled up the Saturn in Plymouth, IN (US31 and US30)
>for 77.9 cents per gallon! Too bad that's 80 miles from home... it's 86.9
>cents here in Lafayette. Yes, the oil companies are profiteers, but don't
>forget Uncle Sam. Here in Indiana we pay 33.3 cents/gallon in taxes, and
>from what I'm told that's not very much! In Chicago gas costs about 50
>cents/gal more than it does here, mostly due to taxes.

Oh, the gas down here is at $1.09 at the LEAST for the 89. I have
seen it go up to $1.23 at some places, of course, that's mostly in
town as well.

You might be a redneck if... You think the French Riviera is foreign
car. - Jeff Foxworthy


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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:14:13 -0700
From: dhollingworth juno.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tach or clock?

Chad,
How much did the junkyard charge for the tach and how hard is it to
install in your dash? I have been wanting to do this on my Bronco for
years.

Dave

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:36:42 -0500 "Chad A. Dietrich"
writes:
>Steve,
> My 86 had the same blank spot and I thought that you could
>only put
>a tach in it. At the junkyard one day I saw trucks with tachs in some
>and
>clocks in the othe both looked like ford issue. I ended up putting a
>tach
>in and I love haveing one there.
>
>Steve Randa wrote:
>
>> On 80-86 models, what went in the middle of the gauge pod. My truck
>has
>> nothing at the moment and was curious what could have been there.
>>
>> Steve Randa

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