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80-96-list-digest Sunday, October 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 344



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - lift kits
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100 horsepower for a 1996 2x2 f-150 w/302and auto trans w/3.55ratio?
FTE 80-96 - Re: Details on trucks
FTE 80-96 - replace 1996 F-150 front spring w/ F-250 front spring?
Re: FTE 80-96 - replace 1996 F-150 front spring w/ F-250 front spring?
FTE 80-96 - Rear end gear ratios
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100 horsepower for a 1996 2x2 f-150 w/302 and auto trans w/3.55 ratio?
FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100HP
FTE 80-96 - changing rear end ratios
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks
FTE 80-96 - Re:Shift+ Hell
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks
FTE 80-96 - Re: bronco newbie
FTE 80-96 - Re: 88 Bronco II Brake Lock
FTE 80-96 - Re: Details on trucks?
FTE 80-96 - FOR SALE
Re: FTE 80-96 - Steering problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE 80-96 Dual Exhaust on 95 F150
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100HP
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: T-shirt contest
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100 horsepower for a 1996 2x2 f-150 w/302and auto trans w/3.55ratio?
FTE 80-96 - '90 F250 XLT Lariat Engine specs

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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:06:58 -0400
From: "jerrypurkis"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - lift kits

to my fellow trukers just my .01cents worth before putting a lift kit on you
might want to think about three things or more1)does my state allow
this?2)will my steering be off? 3)will my brakes stop the larger tires?4)the
center of gravity is going to change? just a few thoughts take care jerry

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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 08:28:41 -0400
From: "Bruce A. Ramirez"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100 horsepower for a 1996 2x2 f-150 w/302and auto trans w/3.55ratio?

Check out this web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4lo.com It has all the formulas you
need. Just enter the data into the webpage and it will calculate it for
you.

Bruce Ramirez
'91 F-150 4x4 4.9L

BigRed wrote:
>
> > Changing your rear-end ratio from 3.55 to 4.10 might suffice in lew >of
> actual hp increase for a seat-of-the-pants improvement and with a >2x it
> shouldn't cost too much, maybe a 4.10 LS 8.8 from the junkyard. >Also if you
> get that lift kit you're asking about you'll probably go to >larger tires.
> Those larger tires will effectively change your 3.55 gear >ratio to
> something like 3.33 if you change from say 30" to 32" tires, >which will be
> felt as a performance decrease
>
> Speaking of changing the ratio, does anyone out there happen to know the
> formula off hand. I knew it at one time, but now forgot. I have 32's on my
> truck and want to raise the gears a bit since my truck only has the wimpy
> little 3.08's in the front and rear. I want to get closer to at least the
> mid to high 3's.Thanks.
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:04:03 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Details on trucks

Judy asked:
>>* what's the difference between XL, XLT, and Lariat trim? What's an
>XLT
>>Lariat?
>There is also the Custom. Custom is stripped down vinyl seat (cloth
>was
>option) vinyl floor, no power locks or windows, XL has a few more
>options -
>cloth seat, carpet, tape deck, power locks and windows (if wanted).

Depends on the year, too. My '94 XL has none of those things, in
fact it was the base model. I don't think the "Custom" was offered past
'92 or maybe '93. FWIW the XL with its "hose-out" interior and no
options except 3.55 gears and extra leaf springs has been a great truck
for me. No fancy electrical stuff to fix! :-)

>The XLT
>and XLT Lariat are loaded with all the options. I don't believe there
>is any
>difference between the XLT and the Lariat. Just an extra name.

What's in a name? As before, it depends on the year. Usually
the Lariat and Eddie Bauer models include the ***really*** decadent stuff
like heated mirrors and 8-way power leather seats (ooooh... Leather.....)
that remember how big your butt is, things that the "mere" XLT does not
have.

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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:37:44 -0400
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - replace 1996 F-150 front spring w/ F-250 front spring?

> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. Very much appreciated.
>
> But if I may bother you again, what is a progressive coil?

The coil gets tighter towards the end of the winding so that stiffness
varies with load. Don't have 'em on the trucks just on the bike!

Mike
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 12:54:52 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - replace 1996 F-150 front spring w/ F-250 front spring?

Love those 'dual stage' progressive rates on the Quad, Mike. My buddy
used to plow w/his F-150 and it would sag so bad the plow
undercarriage barely cleared the road. He installed some type of air
bag system. He'd pump the air in when he was going to load on the
plow and it rode much better. I know you didnt' mention plowing, I'm
just saying if it helped for that.... Just a thought,

Later,
Randy (Brew)

Michael Redden wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the info. Very much appreciated.
> >
> > But if I may bother you again, what is a progressive coil?
>
> The coil gets tighter towards the end of the winding so that stiffness
> varies with load. Don't have 'em on the trucks just on the bike!
>
> Mike
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 12:12:45 -0500
From: Philip Jern
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rear end gear ratios

This is my first list posting here so be gentle...

My truck is pictured in the pictorial if you are interested...

What would be the practical effect of changing rear end ratios on my 96
F150 4x2 shorty? (4.9L I6, 5 speed tranny (Mazda?)). If I read the door
sticker right, it seems like it has 2:73 gears. As it is, first gear
winds out very quickly, and is too low for almost any real use, and I
was wondering what say a 3:55 gearset would do, and what would be
involved in changing them. The only hauling/towing I do is a 1500 lb
pop-up camper 5-6 times a year.

regards, Phil
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 14:31:45 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100 horsepower for a 1996 2x2 f-150 w/302 and auto trans w/3.55 ratio?

Pete,
There are some 'less' expensive ways to get 100 hp, but no cheap
ways. Try giving Summit a call. I checked my latest catalog and they
have some heads that might help. I saw some 'Twisted Wedge' aluminum
heads that dynoed an increase of 78 hp on a mildly built motor! GT-40
intake and a cam were the only mods they mentioned, but the 78 was
w/those same mods vs stock heads on a 5 point-oh :). Those cost $925,
but if they'll give you that much increase it's not a bad deal. They
have iron heads that claim more than 50 hp increase for under 600
bucks. Some intake porting and exhaust mods (headers, cat back) would
get you pretty close to your goal. Also I saw in the latest edition
of my 4x4 Power that you can get a short block 5.0l F-150 motor
directly from Ford Motorsports. They didn't give a price, but claimed
it would cost less than most rebuilds. That included crank, cam,
timing set, connecting rods, pistons, bearings. If feasible you could
pop those heads on that motor so you could still drive your truck
while doing the engine build. I can look up that number for Ford
Motorsports if anyone wants it.

Let us know what you do, Pete

Later,
Randy (Brew)

palspaugh wrote:
>
> I am in the market for a cheap route to giving my truck a 1996 2x2 f-150
> w/302 and auto trans w/3.55 ratio at least 100 more
> horsepower without nitrus. Does anybody have any suggestions? Also I would
> like advice on doing a suspension lift, like what products to use and also
> tire sizes. I have heard that maybe the Twin I-beams would have to be
> replaced, is this true?
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Alspaugh
>
> W.H.Linder & Associates, Inc.
> 3330 W. Esplanade Ave.
> Metairie, La. 70002
> (504) 593-5523
> alspaugh_p metairie.whlinder.com
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 09:47:15 -0400
From: "Skerrett, Michael"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks

My father-in-law may not have had a college education, in fact he didnt
finish high school, but he was the wisest and most knowledgeable mechanic I
have ever met. I had to replace and in-tank part on my '72 full size
'Ranger' years ago, and after I emptied the tank and was about to open it he
shows up with some dry ice. He put the dry ice down the filler cap (they
didn't have the unliaded size restricters back then) and said for us to wait
for a few minutes. He said he saw a guy get hurt real bad when the vapors
an empty tank he was working on exploded. The guy was trying to open the
float access with a common screwdriver and caused a spark that caused him
great harm. The dry ice replaced the fuel vapor with carbon dioxide and
all was well when I opened my tank. I'm told Nitrogen and Helium will work
too, and if you have an air compressor you could blow air in the tank for a
while to vent the vapors.. I have included in my tools brass or aluminum
hammers, screwdrivers, gasket scrapers and wrenches for working around fuel
systems. Be careful, we want to hear how you did on your repairs.

Michael, also in FL.
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 15:28:29 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100HP

I have a 94 Lightning with TFS heads and a few other mods (see
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.icon.net/~fastford/lightning.htm) I run 13.80's on motor
alone and my truck weighs in at 4400lbs.

How have the TFS heads held up? What kind of other mods? I haven't had
mine to the track but what kinda of times should I be running with 14
degrees plus 93 octane, bassani x-pipe, borla nas-truck exhaust, taylor
wires and NGK plugs? I really need to have my tranny checked cause I
hate the first to second gear changes, shift kit?
Chris
94 Lightning #381 Red
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9459
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 12:31:05 -0700
From: uziboy uclink4.berkeley.edu
Subject: FTE 80-96 - changing rear end ratios

i have an 89 5.0 bronco, and it is SLOW. i've read the suggestions about
changing the rear end ratios. how much work is involved? would the front
end also need to be ajusted? how much would milage be affected? i don't
have any experience working on the truck (its reliable as heck). so any
advice would be apreciated. (7 years of don't fix it if it ain't
broke....and i'm getting hired of hugging the right lane on hills). thanks

andy

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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:24:43 EDT
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks

Hey Mike,
When you drop the tank, it will be vented by the filler neck which is removed,
2 fuel lines that will be disconnected, and the tank and all hardware is
aluminum. You tap it gently, you are working with delicate parts, you dont
bang , bang , bang it.use a block of wood if you want.I have done 4 jobs like
this on sedans & trucks. I never had a spark.
p.s. dont smoke ciggarettes while you are working with gas.

joe
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:57:12 EDT
From: F250boy aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:Shift+ Hell

Ben,
I found out about Shift+ the hard way too.
Same scenario as yours after about 3 mos.
Ever try to drive an F250 EC with 2 miles of driveshaft
from stop lite to stop lite with 8 million # of line pressure (not pretty).
End result:
New computer,new selonoids in tranny,mucho diagnostic time,and
$1253 later I have the same mush shifting tranny that I started with.
The tech at Transdrive who fixed it puts an ATS Intrercepter box on
his rebuilds and so far so good. It's a set & forget thing that plugs
into the harness on the tranny You set line pressure & converter
lock up you want & leave it alone(no jumpers & no shorts).
We all ought to send our bills to B&M. I can't believe they would
market a product like that!
Thanks,
Dave Zarnesky
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:56:00 -0700
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks

JSC721 aol.com wrote:

> p.s. dont smoke ciggarettes while you are working with gas.
>

Kinda like:

My granny went down to the cellar.
A gas leak to look for, you see.
She lit up a match to see better.
Oh bring back my granny to me.

Paul in Portland OR
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:44:41 -0300
From: sbest
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: bronco newbie

>From: Ryan Fife
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - bronco newbie
>
>I just recently (yesterday as a matter of fact) started looking into
>buying a truck. So far, the bronco looks like my favorite. I like the
>size and the looks (I test drove a 96XLT). I am now hoping to get a
>few opinions from current owners on reliability, off-roading, etc.
>
>To give you an overview of what I would use it for:
>
>I live about 5 miles from work and would drive there every day.
>Mild off-roading occasionally at first and would like to increase that
>over time - hop up the suspension for more serious off-roading, but
>still keep it streetable.
>
>I think the bronco is a great match and would like to hear some
>opinions for/against buying one for my needs. I am looking to the
>92-96 years simply because of being newer...I don't have a place to
>work on the truck myself so I would have to take it somewhere for
>repairs (aaahhh, get me a garage soon!).
>
>Thoughts, opinions?
>
>Thanks for the info!


Well I think you are right, I like my full-sized Bronco just fine.
I think it would meet your described needs to a "T".
If you often carry more than one passenger crawling into the back
can be a pain but once back there it is far more comfortable than
any jump seat in a pickup. All this summer I left the top off and
besides the fresh air the truck doubled as a pick-up for moving
furniture and B-B-Qs and such. The kids climbed up the rear tire
to get in the back. I have a $150 vinyl cover for sudden rain showers.

Parts are cheap, common with the pickups. The short turn radius
is great. Easy to park anywhere, especially with the back off,
good rear visibility. The short wheel base is not the best for
hauling heavy long travel trailer but many people do. My 82 Bronco
has plenty of power with the 351W motor.

It is like a big tough go anywhere station wagon that is ready
for just about any task you throw at it. It is not the best for
carrying loads or passengers, towing trailers or squeezing into
underground parking or traveling across the country but it will
readily do any of these jobs if called on.



Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:47:05 -0300
From: sbest
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 88 Bronco II Brake Lock

>From: Mike Ashley
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - 88 Bronco II Brake Lock
>
>I am new to this list, but it came highly recommended by users on the
>Galaxie 500 list I am on.
>
>Anyway, I have a '88 Bronco II with a really bad brake problem. When
>the weather gets chilly (below 50 degrees) and there is a little
>moisture, the brakes will lock up...to the point of squeeling the
>tires! The lockup is quick and seems to release itself immediately
>after the lockup. It does not seem to make a difference how much
>brake pedel pressure is applied...even a light touch on the pedal will
>cause the problem.
>I have disconnected the ABS wires under the frame that lead to the
>differential and the "actuator" mounted on the frame just in front of
>the rear axle (at least that is what I believe I have disconnected).
>That has not seemed to help.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this problem or can provide some helpful
>advice?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Mike Ashley



You too? Many of us with the bigger trucks seem to have this problem.
The theory that works for me is that the cool damp pads lock first
thing in the morning due to the type of material. I have been assured
that replacing the rear shoes with cheaper non-metalic shoes will solve
this problem. I gave it one try but it has not gone away. My shoes on my
E350 are nearly $100 a set so I'll put up with it.

Check that you are not leaking any brake fluid or differential oil
onto your shoes and drum. Deglaze your shoes and drums, assure your
park brake and shoes are set up properly and fill in the two potholes
you are making at the end of the driveway are my suggestions. :-)


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:47:12 -0300
From: sbest
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Details on trucks?

>From: Judith Grunberger
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 12:52 PM
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96: Details on trucks?


Judith,
Being a 4 wheel drive kinda guy I have to make a few
recommendations on 4wd. If you don't know or think you
need it, you probably don't.

It costs more to purchase,
It costs more to run, (more fuel)
It costs more to maintain, (more to service, more to wear)
It costs more to fix, (complicated and expensive)
It makes for more noise, (gear noise and driveline slack)
It makes the truck higher, harder to get into,
It is a Godsend when you need it, (pull the lever, you are unstuck)
It raises the resale value and interest in your truck,
It may lead to increased damage in bad weather/ off-road.

The last point is interesting. According to insurance accident
statistics the 2wd Suburban is one of the safest vehicles on the
road. The 4wd Suburban on the other hand is well behind on safety.
Why?

Well there was no explaination given but most of us with 4wd can
understand. 4wd tends to allow you to drive faster in bad weather
conditions (you shouldn't) and allows you to go places where 2wd
would be afraid to venture. This brings increased risk. I myself
am willing to take the risk and prefer to have the option of 4wd.


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 18:31:44 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FOR SALE

I have a pair of fiberglass steps for sale. They are painted Lightning
red and they are in great condition! You can see them on my website at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/9459. I want 75 plus
shipping if interested let me know!
Chris
94 Lightning #381
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 19:22:11 -0500
From: Chad A Dietrich
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Steering problems

John
1986 4x4 short box standared cab 5.0l

John Kanyan wrote:

> Chad, What year and 2or 4 wheel..maybe I can help if I know a little more.John
> John Kanyan
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:51:20 -0500
From: "Parker Brooks"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE 80-96 Dual Exhaust on 95 F150

hey chris,

i was under the impression that a plain jane 5.8L won't accept lightning
spec'd parts, such as the exhaust? aren't the headers different, and thus
won't match up?

parker
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From: Garr&Pam
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE 80-96 Dual Exhaust on 95 F150


>Jeffrey D. Vlahos wrote:
>>
>> I am new to this list and have just purchased a 1995 F150 w/ 351. I
would like
>> to know if anyone has put dual exhaust on such a truck or whether it is
possible
>> I would like to put dual flowmasters on if possible. My other question
is
>> whether removing the catalytic converter will hinder performance. Any
info or
>> suggestions would be great
>
>You can use Lightning exhaust products on your truck...you could get an
>h pipe from bassani or mac(I think) and a cat back exhaust from bassani
>or borla! Watch it though it gets expensive as borla and bassani are
>made of stainless steel. The quality of bassani products is UNMATCHED!
>Chris
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:05:11 -0500
From: "Fast Ford"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100HP

The TFS heads with the Ford Solution Stage III port job are awsome. I
started out with a Powerdyne 9lbs SC right out of the box four years ago. I
had a best run of 14.22 96. I sold it and had HP Racing in OKC take over
the project. The heads are awsome, but I would suggest getting the CAM from
Ford Soltuions also. The heads really out flow the stock cam when they are
ported like mine are. I am having the CAM put in right now. I should be
running 13.40s on motor.

I don't know where you are located but a setup like you have now should be
good for 14.80 - 14.90 in Oklahoma. The Trans-go shift kit installed at the
second shift level makes on hell of a difference.
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From: Garr&Pam
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100HP


>I have a 94 Lightning with TFS heads and a few other mods (see
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.icon.net/~fastford/lightning.htm) I run 13.80's on motor
>alone and my truck weighs in at 4400lbs.
>
>How have the TFS heads held up? What kind of other mods? I haven't had
>mine to the track but what kinda of times should I be running with 14
>degrees plus 93 octane, bassani x-pipe, borla nas-truck exhaust, taylor
>wires and NGK plugs? I really need to have my tranny checked cause I
>hate the first to second gear changes, shift kit?
>Chris
>94 Lightning #381 Red
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 23:42:03 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: T-shirt contest

The web page for the t-shirt contest will be delayed until
later this week. I had some medical problems and was on
bedrest under doctors orders until this evening.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 23:57:27 EDT
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bad Gauge Reading with Dual Fuel Tanks

Thats pretty funny.I was getting gas at the station one time and this guy was
pumping his own gas while smoking a ciggarette.I asked him if he was crazy,
and he just said DUH, DUH, DUH I DONT KNOW. Its just amazing how stupid people
can be sometimes.
Joe C.
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 02:31:40 -0500
From: "BigRed"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cheap 100 horsepower for a 1996 2x2 f-150 w/302and auto trans w/3.55ratio?

>Check out this web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4lo.com It has all the formulas you
>need. Just enter the data into the webpage and it will calculate it for
>you.
>
>Bruce Ramirez
>'91 F-150 4x4 4.9L
>
Thanks Bruce

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