80-96-list-digest Friday, September 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 306



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest V2 #298 Rhino Linings
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Clarification on the spammer
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Anti-SPAM
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Anti-SPAM
FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sender Location - 5.0 engine
FTE 80-96 - Re: E-250 lower ?
FTE 80-96 - Six cyl exhaust note
Re: FTE 80-96 - Six cyl exhaust note
FTE 80-96 - F-250 growling noise
FTE 80-96 - my 5.0 is dying
Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 Needs more cooling.
Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 Needs more cooling.,...

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:04:40 -0400
From: "Michael Redden"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest V2 #298 Rhino Linings

I've been checking out sprayed on linings for a year or so. I know a guy
with new
truck with the Rhino lining. He's hauled "everything" in it with no
damage.
Cleans up easily too. (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rhinoliningsde.com/home.html)

There is also Line-X (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.linexprocoat.com/), but I couldn't find a
dealer in my area.

Mike

redden enter.net
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 10:14:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Clarification on the spammer

There seems to be some misunderstanding about the spammer.
Several list members have emailed me and basically said
they're afraid of posting because of this. It appears that
somehow they thought that the spammer got email addresses
from the mailing lists.

****** This is completely incorrect!!! ******

The subscriber lists are on a protected directory on our
server. That cannot be retrieved by anyone but myself and
Keith Srb (performance list admin).

The spammer took email addresses from the pictorial of the
web site, not the lists. If you don't have a truck on the
pictorial, you didn't get the spam.

Measures are being put in place this weekend to make it
alot harder for spammers to retrieve addresses from the
web pictorials.

With the exception of my admin email addresses, all email
addresses on the web site will have *spamremove* inserted
in them. This will make yourname address.com appear as
yourname*spamremove* address.com. Addresses formated like
this will bounce back to the spammer unless they remove
this spam blocker from every single address.

To date, we have had no cases of automated harvesting from
the lists. The reason is because its too slow and not
cost effective for the spammers.

The lists are my babies, and the performance list is Keiths.
I assure you that both of us would never make it easy for
spammers.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 10:15:08 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Anti-SPAM

At 12:17 AM 9/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks Ken!
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>You're help is much appreciated.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:15:08 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Anti-SPAM

At 12:17 AM 9/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks Ken!
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>You're help is much appreciated.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:06:13
From: Bob & Jay Hartman-Berrier
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Temperature Sender Location - 5.0 engine

Would someone please give me *detailed* instructions where the temperature
sender is for a 5.0 liter engine, in an 89 E-150 Club Wagon? I've been
over that engine, and have not located it yet. My Chilton's is of little
help.

The temperature guage is running low (on the cool side). I've changed the
thermostat, with no difference. Now the temperature sender...if I can find
it .

I understand this goes directly (and only) to the temperature guage, and
that the temperature sensor for the computer unit (ECU?) is different. If
so, would it hurt to drive it if just the sensor for the guage is bad? How
would the engine run if the sensor for the computer is bad?

Thanks for your help,

Bob

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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:11:38 -0300
From: sbest
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: E-250 lower ?

>From:
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - E-250 lower ?
>
>Hi again.
>
>I have a 1990 E-250 Club Wagon 7.3 diesel. One objection to its
>construction; it looks like it's on stilts. Do anyone have a tip on how
>to lower the thing without detriment to its driving characteristics?

Are you kidding? I spent thousands getting mine 3" higher!
Seriously it is a problem. We have frame mounted "landing lights" so
the kids can see the ground when they jump out at night and carry a
stepstool for the younger children to get in and out.

Any lowering of the front end will change the camber but I believe
1990s have adjustable ball joints don't they?

Suggestions?
Lower profile tires. Now many 70 series heavy load tires are available.
A co-worker of mine opted for this on his 1 ton dually truck.
If you are in need of new tires this might be an option.
"Clipping" a coil from the front springs. Will actually firm up the ride
slightly. Unfortunately if you are not pleased with the height or
ride, your springs are now destroyed, no going back.
Replacing the front spring with a E150 type. I have never done this but
it would be cheap and easy to try it. Will give a softer ride and
lower height at the expense of load capacity.
Installing a longer shackle in the rear,
Removing a leaf spring or two, I did this to mine to soften the ride.
Installing flatter leaf springs, or having them flattened at a spring shop.
Installing an air bag type suspension. Costs $$$ but offers a smooth ride
and variable height suspension.

Not too much here very easy to do. I would guess that you could loose
no more than 2" on suspension height and maybe another 2" on tire size.
I would hazard a guess that your handling would improve even if you
softened the ride.


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
Tire chains, camping gear, tools,82 Bronco and some shooting stuff too.







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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:11:44 -0300
From: sbest
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Six cyl exhaust note

>Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:39:52 -0500=20
>From: Sean Winters
>Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 83 F-150 advise
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>I have a 2.5" two chamber Flowmaster on an inline 6. It also has a BIG
>resonator tip on the end that adds to the sound quite a bit. It sounds
>pretty cool, but don't have any delusions of it sounding like the 5 liter
>Mustangs with the same setup. (That sound brings tears to my eyes) Maybe
>with a header....

I used to have a 250 six with 6 into 2 headers, dual 2=BD" exhaust and=20
straight through mufflers. Quiet at an idle, it roared with a throaty blat=
=20
when you put your foot into it. It certainly did not have the melody of=20
a V8, instead it was just a mighty WHAAAAAAAA. (as best can be described=20
in print)

One thing Sean. The header on the six is money well spent. Much bigger=20
gains than I ever recieved on any V8.


Steve Best, Nova Scotia, sbest glinx.com
4 wheel drive van page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
Tire chains, camping gear, tools,82 Bronco and some shooting stuff too.







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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:31:35 EDT
From: JJust4505 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Six cyl exhaust note

I have a 300 six cylinder with stock manafold a super flow cat.converter,
a small glasspack and flex pipe,Little Y to make twin pipes out the back
with 3 1/2" tips. All of my friends love thim,and it sound's qite nice to.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:29:15 +0000
From: rsmall isgroup.net (Robert Smallwood)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-250 growling noise

My otherwise perfect 95 F-250 PS seems to have developed a new "noise"
when turning sharply left. There is a growling or rubbing sound whenever
I turn sharp left on pavement. It is hard to define whether the sound
is from the front or the rear, but does not seem to make it when turning
on grass. The left front wheel bearings and disk brakes check out ok and
there is no visible wear marks anywhere near the front wheel.

I have the locking rear end...any chance that during a sharp turn, rear
end is locking up and this is just tire scrub noise? Any suggestions?

Robert
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:07:36 -0500
From: "BigRed"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - my 5.0 is dying

hi all. i'm a new guy on the list and i got a question for you all. I
have an 87 f-150 with a 5.0 in it. it is blowing all the oil out of the
crankcase breather tube into the airbox. it also blows smoke out of the same
spot and the oil dipstick tube. i talked to a mechanic and he said maybe the
pcv valve, i replaced with no change. so i figure that with 177,000 miles
and all i've had to do with the motor is put intake
gaskets in it that i've got a serious blow-by problem. what do you all
think? also, if i rebuild and don't put a cam in it that is made for
computer controlled vehicles what will it do aside from not idle right?


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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:00:06 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 Needs more cooling.

Just be careful when putting a flex fan on your truck. If it involvles
replacing the fan clutch you need to remember that when driving through
deep water there will be no clutch to allow the fan to slip thus water is
going to get sprayed all over the engine compartment possibly stalling the
engine.

Rade
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From: Gary Callahan
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - F150 Needs more cooling.


>
> My '81 F-150 had the same problem. I replaced the stock five blade fan
>with a seven blade "flex" fan (from Pep Boy's). The engine stays a lot
>cooler now even when idling.
>
>Gary Callahan
>'81 F-150 Custom 4x4 (300cid I-6)
>
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>Gary Callahan
>Holmes & Narver, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:33:59 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F150 Needs more cooling.,...

Does it creep up to overheating or just get on the high side? If it is not
overheating I would not worry too much, your solution might be as simple as
a thermostt change.

Rade
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From: T. Higgins
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 5:01 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F150 Needs more cooling.,...


>Greetings all,
>
>I have a 96 F150 with the 302/Auto-OD (E40D?)and a 3.55 rear end. I
recently moved to the southwest and drive regularly in temperatures over 100
F. When driving at freeway speeds with the AC on the temp gauge is
approximately 1/2 way to hot (right on the little thermometer). When
stopped the temperature starts to creep up. I have the "heavy duty cooling"
which I believe is a two cell radiator (the largest I could find to install
with the A/C before I moved). I would like to add additional cooling
capacity and am considering some/all of the following. I would appreciate
any thoughts or comments from those that have tried the same or have any
additional ideas or insight.
>
>1) I will replace the floppy "air directors" with light weight aluminum to
ensure that all air that flows through the grill flows through the radiator
(I don't have a bumber with holes for air flow).
>
>2) I have considered adding an electric fan (in a push conifiguration) for
additional cooling when stopped in traffic/or at idle.
>
>3) I have considered adding an oil cooler.
>
>4) I have considered adding a single cell radiator (like my old one) behind
the two cell. I would hook these up in series. I believe that there is
room to do this AND keep the stock fan. If not, I would consider the
electric fan noted above.
>
>5) Any combination of the above.
>
>Any thoughts or help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tom.
>
>P.S. I have what I believe is a larger tranny fluid cooler (not attached
to the radiator). Should I get a bigger one? I don't use my truck for any
towing or really heavy hauling.
>
>
>
>
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