80-96-list-digest Tuesday, August 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 288



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In this issue:

Re[2]: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections
FTE 80-96 - Lariat-steering wheel
FTE 80-96 - center cap needed
FTE 80-96 - F150 4.9L EGR question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lariat-steering wheel
FTE 80-96 - Ford RV questions/ 350 7.5l 460 etc
Re: FTE 80-96 - PING PING PING!!!
FTE 80-96 - back up lights
Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights
Re: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections
Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights
FTE 80-96 - Re:4x indicator light
Re: FTE 80-96 - I put an Overdrive in my truck...
FTE 80-96 - RE: MAP sensor
RE: FTE 80-96 - I put an Overdrive in my truck...
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford RV questions/ 350 7.5l 460 etc
Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights
Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights
Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights
FTE 80-96 - RE: Ford vans
FTE 80-96 - F350 cats; my brakes suck.
Re: FTE 80-96 - F350 cats; my brakes suck.
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lariat-steering wheel

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 98 08:42:30 -0500
From: jones.chris mail.mccg.org
Subject: Re[2]: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections

I have use the diagram sticker under the hood, my Chilton's service
manual and a diagram, vacuum schematic part name abbreviations list
from the library but I am still having a problem with these hoses
lists below. Does any one have a truck like mind that you could look
under the hood. It would appreciated. Thanks.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections
Author: at internet
Date: 8/17/98 7:02 PM


I don't have a similar truck to yours, so I can't help much. But,
There should be a hose connection diagram sticker somewhere under the hood.
Your truck won't have a MAP sensor, it's only needed on fuel injected
engines.
As for the other devices you mention, can't help you there either.


Matt

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> From: jones.chris mail.mccg.org
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections
> Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 3:52 PM
>
>
> This is a 1986 F-150 pickup with a straight six single barrel
> carburetor. I have replaced the motor and need help replacing some
> vacuum hoses.
>
> 1. Two hoses come off the PVC valve, which is plugged into
the
> valve cover. The large hose goes into the intake manifold. Where
> does
> the small hose go?
> 2. On the intake manifold, there is a connector with several
> hoses.
> One of those hoses T's about two inches from the carburetor. Where
do
> these two hoses go?
> 3. Is the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor located on
> the
> firewall? If not, where?
> 4. Looking from the front of the truck, on the left side of
the
> carburetor, just below the intake, there is a hose connector coming
> off
> the carburetor. What hose goes to the location?
> 5. Where is an A/CL VV (Air cleaner dust and valve vacuum
> motor)?
> 6. What and where is the P/D MTR?
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:19:19 EDT
From: Croth2 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lariat-steering wheel

Does anybody know where I can get a leather steering wheel cover to replace my
stock leather cover. Mine is all ripped up and falling apart. I asked Ford
and they said I had to order a whole new steering wheel to get the cover.
does anybody know where I could find this?
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:28:10 PDT
From: "Rob Bubala"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - center cap needed

Hello

A couple of weeks ago, I knocked my rear center cap off of my 97 F250 HD
equipped with the aluminum wheels. Does anyone out there have a cap that
they would like to sell? If so, please let me know.

Thanks

Rob Bubala
1997 Ford F250 HD Powerstroke 4x4 (The Jeep puller)

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:47:28 -0400
From: "Skerrett, Michael"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F150 4.9L EGR question

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 08:17:32 -0500
From: DuaneKaufman LunarCorp.com (Duane Kaufman)
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 1989 F150 4.9L EGR question

The engine operates fine without it now, so the concerns about it aren't an
issue.

Aside from the cost of putting things back on that are plain missing
(Exhaust tube from exhaust to EGR valve, EGR valve, miles of vacuum hose,
and Lord knows what else) I do not have the time or inclination to replace
something that will serve to lessen power output and fuel economy. I just
want to preserve the diagnostic capability of the EEC system in other areas.

As to the above:

Did you notice how quite the list got after your last post?

So you want all the diagnostic capability in the ECC but you are willing to
cripple one of the most important inputs. Its your truck and you can run it
the way you want, but to kludge up a resistor to provide a pseudo input to
the computer doesn't seem to be a good way to correct the problem.

The Check Engine light is illuminated due to an error in a sensor on a major
engine subsystem. What other codes are stored in your computer? Perhaps
this is more significant than first thought. The EGR feedback and its valve
position sensor are just one of many breathing sensors for correct mixture
and emission control of the engine. The weighting of the equations in the
ECC rely heavily on the EGR input to determine the amount of fuel to burn.
If that input is incorrect due to a faulty sensor the light will illuminate,
and codes will be stored, occasionally (almost randomly) as the engine moves
through different RPM and temperature ranges. If the input is not present
(0 volts), the light will remain illuminated and a preset value will be used
to keep the engine running. This is sometimes called the 'limp-home' mode
as the engine will usually be running very rough.

All those "other areas" of diagnostics desired to be preserved depend on the
rest for correct engine operation. The indication that the engine runs fine
without the EGR is probably more due to coincidence than engine condition.
The reason the sensor in the EGR is variable is due to the valve changing
position due to other sensor inputs, such as O2, MAP, TPS, temperature,
etc., across a broad operating range.

Good luck, but this will probably come back to bite you soon.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:43:34 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lariat-steering wheel

I went through this with my 1986 Sable. You can buy one of the cheesy covers that
they sell at Pep Boys and do it yourself. This was not acceptable to me. I also
checked with a couple of local upholstery shops. None would touch it. They all
said it was too hard to get a good job. I finally got a wheel from a junk yard. It
was a fraction of the cost of a new one and lasted till I sold the car. From now
on I avoid leather wrapped wheels like the plague. I have one friend who is on his
third one under warranty (less than 1 year). There is something in his body
chemistry that is destroying them.

Good luck.

Ed

Croth2 aol.com wrote:

> Does anybody know where I can get a leather steering wheel cover to replace my
> stock leather cover. Mine is all ripped up and falling apart. I asked Ford
> and they said I had to order a whole new steering wheel to get the cover.
> does anybody know where I could find this?
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:49:18 PDT
From: "BRET LUTER"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford RV questions/ 350 7.5l 460 etc

Brant Sawzak wrote:

If it is a 351, then it isn't a 7.5 liter, it would be a 5.8 liter. A
7.5 liter
is a 460 cid.

and Ken Payne wrote:

> At 02:09 PM 8/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:02:30 -0500
> >>To: 80-96list ford-trucks.com
> >>From: Noel & Inga Hupe
> >>Subject: ford rv van
> >>
> >>I just recentely purchased a RV van called Getaway on 1 ton ford
econoline
> >chassis, with a 350...7.5 l , geez it's big mother. I'm wondering if
any1 on
> >this list could help me find info regarding the van, i've tried
without any
> >success.Thanks, Noel
> > Sorry, i forgot to mention the van is an 1988, with 82,000 k's in
mint
> >condition, it never saw snow yet.
> >
> > Noel Hupe
> >
>
> First, its probably a 351, not a 350 (Chevy engine). What
> kind of information are you looking for?
>
> Ken Payne

Maybe Mr. Hupe meant that his RV was based on a "350" chassis (i.e.-
E350) Logically thinking- wouldn't a vehicle that size have a 7.5l (460
ci)?? Let's stop picking nits and try to get him the info he was
originally looking for!!! Back to your regularly scheduled digest!

Bret, Raleigh, NC

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:37:03 -0400
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - PING PING PING!!!

Whats your timing?
- -----Original Message-----
From: David Sagers
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 3:17 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - PING PING PING!!!


This weekend I put about 800 miles on my 89 F350 CC, 460 gas, 5 spd (ZF).
The air temperature was warm at 98 - 100 degrees. The only load was 2
passengers and a couple of suitcases. Unless I ran the 91 octane gas the
engine pinged, on even the slightest hill at 75 mph. The engine temp was at
normal. The problem persisted with different tanks of fuel from a number of
different stations.

About six months ago I had a shop treat the engine for excess carbon build
up in the heads, on the piston tops and in the EFI intake. It never really
made much difference, but after spending the extra $$ to buy the high octane
this weekend Im finally to the point where I need to work on this problem
again. I know that the owners manual says to run medium grade fuel, and I
will live that, but the high grade is $.10 to $.15 per gallon higher in
price, and since this truck only gets 10 mpg it makes a difference. At the
same time I had the carbon treatment they checked the knock sensor and the
timing.

The truck doesnt burn oil and uses about a quart each 1000 to 1500, and I
have 65K miles on it. I checked the motors manual and its says the 460 gas
engine has 8.5:1 compression. Now my experience says that an 8.5:1 engine
shouldnt require even med grade fuel unless there is something unusual
going on. Is there something in the design of the 460 head that causes the
detonation. Does this indicate that the EFI is running too lean ( I live at
about 5000 ft. above sea level). I like the truck, but the pinging drives
me crazy because I know it can destroy an engine.

Anyone have any ideas?

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:39:31 EDT
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - back up lights

hey guys,
i have an 89 ford e-250 4.9 engine, with a c-6 transmission. my back up lights
do not work. its not a fuse or bulbs. it must be a switch. can any body help?

thanks
joe / jsc721
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:49:53 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights

JSC721 aol.com wrote:

> hey guys,
> i have an 89 ford e-250 4.9 engine, with a c-6 transmission. my back up lights
> do not work. its not a fuse or bulbs. it must be a switch. can any body help?

Joe,
I know what ya mean, I have done mine on the Bronco.

1st step - Fuse and bulbs

2nd step - Check the wiring to the backup light switch.
Look for a open grounded wire, cut wire, etc... Also,
test the wires. Make sure you have current/power to
the switch. If you have power to the switch then the
switch is the problem.

3rd step - If you do not have power to the switch then it is
either the wire harness coming off the main chasis as well
as could be the switch. You will know one thing for sure
and that is if there is no power in the harness that directly
hooks to the switch you will have to replace it. $35.00
from Ford. I replaced mine about 8 months ago. Well,
actually you could also check the plug that it connects
to as well.

4th step - If you find that there is power to the switch
and replace the harness then it is then obviously the switch.

TO SUMMARIZE
1. Check the fuses and bulbs - You did this one already
2. Check the wiring harness to the switch for current.
Replace switch if there is power to the switch.
3. Replace wire harness if there is no power to the switch.
4. Recheck backup lights. If no backup lights then replace
the switch

LOCATION OF SWITCH
On my Bronco with the 4.9L standard 4-speed it is located on top
of the transmission, just behind the shifter. It is a blind removal
on mine AND CAN be a pain in the $$. It will come off with an
open end wrench. Somewhere around a 9/16", 5/8", or 3/4". Can't
recall exactly. Yours is as well going to be somewhere on the tranny,
you can't miss it. Just look for the wireharness coming off the main
chasis wiring to the tranny. If you need any other info just ask.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:07:28 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections

jones.chris mail.mccg.org wrote:

> I have use the diagram sticker under the hood, my Chilton's service
> manual and a diagram, vacuum schematic part name abbreviations list
> from the library but I am still having a problem with these hoses
> lists below. Does any one have a truck like mind that you could look
> under the hood. It would appreciated. Thanks.

Okay,
I will try and look at mine tonight for ya on the Bronco.
I may use such HIGHLY technical terms as: thing-a-ma-bob,
wutch-a-ma-callit, and doo-hickey, but I'll look. :-)

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:14:52 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights

Rick Wojciechowski wrote:

> hooks to the switch you will have to replace it. $35.00
> from Ford.

Just to let you know, the backup switch was under $5.00
from Autozone. There are two kinds of backup switches.
You will need to take yours with you when you buy a new
one, that is if you have to.


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Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:04:56 PDT
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:4x indicator light

The wire did get pinched pretty good between the frame/crossmember (I
take it you did that as well...) As for dropping the tranny, I meant
pulling it out, not as in actaully dropping it on the floor. I will see
if there is a fuse, and see if I can check the wire for voltage. BTW
this was a '83 F-250, so your right about the screws, I was just a
little leary of taking it off.

Thanks
Casey Vandor

>>>>
1. Instrument panel light bulb
2. Bad indicator on tranny

Was it working before you pulled the tranny/transfer case ?
If it was working before then you may have inadvertently
broke the wire like I did when I was putting the crossmember
back in. I also seem to recall(I think) that you said you dropped the
tranny. Don't think that would of effected the indicator though,
unless it fell on the topside. The dash is not hard to take off. It
has about 12 screws and takes about 10 minutes. I can't recall
what vehicle you have. Was this on an '81 Bronco/F150 ?

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:07:20 -0700
From: "Mike Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - I put an Overdrive in my truck...

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ron Madurski
To: 'trucks'
Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 12:13 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - I put an Overdrive in my truck...


>
>
>Anyways, like I was saying. I really liked the truck but it was hell at
>any speeds over 70. The big old 420 was just spinning too fast with the
>4 speed that was in there. I looked at several different options (new 5
>spd, automatic (yech), OD behind the xfer case,...) but I really liked
>the Advance Adapters torque splitter. 27% reduction in RPM and it would
>work for all 4 existing gears. It is fairly compact (7-3/8" long) and
>bolts right in between the tranny and bellhousing. The only thing I
>don't like about that is that I'm having some trouble getting the xfer
>case shifter located just right. It ends up under the seat which limits
>its travel. It still works OK, just need to work on it some more to get
>it perfect. It installed really easily, everything under the truck fit
>perfectly.
>
>Now the truck just purrs along at 75-80. It's quieter and smoother and
>I don't worry about a rod going through the block anymore.
>

What was the cost of the OD and would you care to speculate on the number of
hours a shop might charge to install it?
I have the same truck (mines dark blue)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pw1.netcom.com/~milemilr/enkei.html for a pic. Got the Banks turbo
and pull a 28 ft trailer ( 7300 lbs). Get about 11 mpg towing and 17 mpg not
towing with the 3.54 limited slip rear end. It was sold to me as having 105k
on it, but I suspect it's really 205k.

mike
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:10:52 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: MAP sensor

Some carbureted engines with the EEC-4 carb feedback systems
DID have MAP sensors. My 85 F-150, 351 2bbl has a MAP and a host of
other extra-anenous sensors. Walt


> From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - vacuum hose connections
>
[snip]
> Your truck won't have a MAP sensor, it's only needed on fuel injected
> engines.
[snip]
> Matt
>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:49:21 -0500
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - I put an Overdrive in my truck...

What was the cost of the OD and would you care to speculate on the
number of

The OD (called a torque-splitter) cost $1500 from Sam's Off-Road here in
Tulsa, OK. The Driveshaft work (lengthen balance and shorten) was about
$150 (the number $182.60 comes to mind) This included all new u-joints.
I think Sam's wanted to charge me $300 just to do the install. I didn't
have them do it because I like to wrench on cars. It is relaxing to me
and I get a lot of personal satisfaction from making it work. I also
spend a lot more time cleaning parts and inspecting them than an average
shop probably does on an installation like that. I would guess that the
job would be about 8 hours for a shop to do it. It took me a week of
evenings and a Saturday. A lot of that time was taken up by swapping
oil pans, and staring at it while the cramps in my hands went away :-).

I was getting 19 MPG around town and 16 towing an 18 ft steel trailer
with a Fiat on it. I'll see how the next tank does and let y'all know
where it ends up.

hours a shop might charge to install it?
I have the same truck (mines dark blue)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pw1.netcom.com/~milemilr/enkei.html for a pic. Got the Banks
turbo
and pull a 28 ft trailer ( 7300 lbs). Get about 11 mpg towing and 17 mpg
not
towing with the 3.54 limited slip rear end. It was sold to me as having
105k
on it, but I suspect it's really 205k.

mike
mailto:JoMi email.msn.com


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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:05:56 -0700
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford RV questions/ 350 7.5l 460 etc

Noel Hupe wrote:
> > >>I just recentely purchased a RV van called Getaway on 1 ton ford
> econoline chassis, with a 350...7.5 l , geez it's big mother. I'm wondering if
> any1 on this list could help me find info regarding the van, i've tried
> without any success.Thanks, Noel
> Sorry, i forgot to mention the van is an 1988, with 82,000 k's in mint
> condition, it never saw snow yet.

As others have said it is probably a 5.8 liter (351 ci) engine. Is is
an '88 Getaway or is it actually an "88 Ford. My '88 Transvan is
actually on an '87 Ford. They seem to buy a large group of vehicles and
then by the time they complete the conversion, they are into the next
model year. I can't help you on the Getaway info. However for the
engine and chassis, there are the Hayes and Chilton manuals. They do
leave some to be desired though. I have been considering getting the
Ford manuals, myself. By the way, my Transvan is a dually 19 ft and has
the 351 engine. I really doubt that they would have used the 460 in a
van conversion.
Paul in Portland OR
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:06:01 EDT
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights

thanks for the info rick. i do have power to the switch. its a backup/neutral
safety switch. i am going to replace it right now.

joe
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:08:23 EDT
From: JSC721 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights

hey rick , the backup/neutral safety switch cost me 21.99 at autozone. for a
c-6 transmission. they have great prices at autozone.

joe
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:39:49 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - back up lights

JSC721 aol.com wrote:

> hey rick , the backup/neutral safety switch cost me 21.99 at autozone. for a
> c-6 transmission. they have great prices at autozone.

Hey Joe,
Just out of curiosity, where was it located on the auto tranny ?
Man thats a lot more than my $5.00 one. :-) You got it in yet.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:23:03 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Ford vans

>
>>Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:09:07 -0700
>>From: Brant Sawzak
>>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford Vans
>>
>>I'm new to the list and I wanted to see if anyone on this list
>>discusses
>>Ford Vans. I have an '84 E-150 with the 300 I6, 124" wheelbase. I
>>recently had it painted, and rebuilt the engine about two years ago.
>>I'm looking for a new intake manifold, hopefully something better than
>>stock. I would like to fit a fuel-injection system on it, but seeing
>>as
>>I don't currently have the cash, a new carb will have to do. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>
PUT A 460 IN IT... (oops, sorry. Wrong list.) Try
www.cliffordperformance.com for lots of stuff for the Big Six. And you
can't go wrong with murals, shag carpeting, metal-flake paint and a
kickin' 8-track (oops, sorry. Wrong decade...) lordjanusz

'94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 (FT block) '97 Saturn (SWMBO's)

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:56:31 PDT
From: "Denis SIS"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F350 cats; my brakes suck.

Randy and list,

Randy wrote:
>- -You mentioned a cat-back system, but I didn't think the F-350's
>came w/cats, mine didn't due to the 8600 lb GVWR, but I think that >was
the last year for the F-250's, must be the same for the 350's >then.
>- -My F-250 pedal used to feel spongy to me as well, but I've just
>grown used to it (until I drive someone elses vehicle and almost lock
>up the >brakes the first time I use them...hehe)
>Later,
>Randy (Brew)

- -Yep, my F350 351 did indeed come from the factory with a catalytic
convertor. It was replaced with new one at about 50k. -
- -Brakes. I just drove a friend's '99 F250 crewcab SRW, with 5.4 V8/OD
trans/3.73s. The brakes were nothing short of fantastic! Great pedal
feel! I know they are 4 wheel disc. The '99s still use the twin
I-beams, so I would assume the front brakes are the same. I have done
zero research on this matter. My brakes suck. I have had everything
replaced, except the PB booster. A guy at a Firestone shop even
replaced my master cylinder with a 'bigger bore' one from a later model
truck about a month ago. No change. It takes lots of human pressure to
stop and the pedal feels spongy. Any suggestions? Does anyone out
there have a pedal that feels DOES NOT feel spongy? Also my 'Rear
Anti-lock' light on the dash is coming on. Sometimes if I set the
emergency brake, then release it, the light will turn off, but lately
that doesn't even work. Suggestions?? BTW, I drilled four 3" holes in
my air box this past weekend. Makes a lot of intake noise now!

Thanks
Denis Hergenreter
denis500 hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:15:28 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F350 cats; my brakes suck.

Denis SIS wrote:

> -Brakes. I just drove a friend's '99 F250 crewcab SRW, with 5.4 V8/OD
> trans/3.73s. The brakes were nothing short of fantastic! Great pedal
> feel! I know they are 4 wheel disc. The '99s still use the twin
> I-beams, so I would assume the front brakes are the same. I have done
> zero research on this matter. My brakes suck. I have had everything
> replaced, except the PB booster. A guy at a Firestone shop even
> replaced my master cylinder with a 'bigger bore' one from a later model
> truck about a month ago. No change. It takes lots of human pressure to
> stop and the pedal feels spongy.

I am not sure putting in a bigger bore master cyclinder is a step in the....


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