80-96-list-digest Thursday, August 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 273



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Battery terminal
FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.
Re: FTE 80-96 - STULL GRILL..POLISHED FOR SALE
RE: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.
Re: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem
FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade
RE: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem
RE: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade
FTE 80-96 - Into and q
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade
FTE 80-96 - 300 Inline Six
Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 Inline Six
Re: FTE 80-96 - Into and q
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Air Conditioning Conversion to R134a
Re: FTE 80-96 - STULL GRILL..POLISHED FOR SALE
FTE 80-96 - Warning to members with children.

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:10:16 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Battery terminal

hmmmmm well gang I don't know whether it's some of my Irish blood or I have
Win95 set to Irish but the below post was meant to say "protectant"/
preventative. Hope I didn't offend anyone and if I did please know it was
not intentional.

> From: John Miller >



> After thoroughly cleaning the corrosion are you using a
> Protestant/preventative compound to prevent reoccurrence? I found that
> Permatex offers a very effective spray for this purpose. Also consider
> cleaning the entire battery outer surface so that there is no way a path
> for current flow exists between the two terminals.
>
> John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
> 96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
> 75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver "Lucy"
> and "always" looking ! ! !

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:37:53 +1000
From: "Tony"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.

Hello F People,
I previously asked a question about my truck which would not start at all
and appeared to have fuel problems. I now need further help.
I have taken the vehicle to my mechanic and he is not quite able to
diagnose the problem although he is fairly certain. He believes it is the
Engine Management Computer but cannot verify this without swapping it with
another computer. These trucks are not common in Australia so he cannot
swap one from another machine and if I buy a new one I am stuck with it as
they are non-returnable. Australian F150s are sourced from Canada, but mine
is a personal import from the United States. We suspect there may be some
differences.

He describes the symptoms as follows;
- Will not start unless the spout connector for the timing is
disconnected.
- After setting timing and putting spout back, timing does not advance.
- Blowing black smoke (running rich near idle - raw fuel from exhaust).
- At 2000 RPM will often die and backfire.

The Following parts are O.K.;
- TFI module,
- Coolant temperature sensor
- Spark plugs (new),
- Fuel filter (new),
- Fuel pressure regulator,
- Fuel pressure and flow are O.K.

Does this sound like a Engine Management Computer problem or can you
suggest another possibility?

Do you know of any other vehicles which may have been exported to
Australia with the same computer?

Do Canadian (and therefore Australian) F150s have the same computer as
mine (the U.S version)?

Do Canadian F150s differ in other ways?

Is it true that the U.S. version is superior?

Thankyou in Advance,
Tony Mexon
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:49 -0400
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - STULL GRILL..POLISHED FOR SALE

How does this compare to the Stull grill Summit for $85, shipping
included?
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From: FSTFORDS aol.com
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 2:03 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - STULL GRILL..POLISHED FOR SALE


>FOR SALE...STULL BILLET POLISHED GRILL W/ FORD EMBLEM $100 + SHIPPING
>FROM TACOMA,WA
>FITS 92-96 F-SERIES AND BRONCO
>
>M. LONG
>(253) 536-5762
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:13:11 -0600
From: "Brian Soderblom"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem

Hey Rade, you're stealing my thunder! :) THat's the info he's talking
about below... I did exactly that a few days ago. :)

Brian

> If you want a more powerful alternator you can get a 130Amp
> Motorcraft from
> your Ford dealer. hat alternator went on '95+ Mustangs and
> can be put on a
> truck with minor wiring modifications.
>
> Rade
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JSC721 aol.com
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem
>
>
> >hey brian, thanks for the info. i wonder if anybody else
> has had this
> problem
> >besides us.well i will look into a more powerful alternator.
> > joe
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:50:42 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.

The should all have the same EEC computer, I live in the U.S. and my '90
Bronco was made in Canada so I do not think there is a difference (the
Canadian Ford plant is in Windsor, which is right across the way from
Detriot). Has the mechanic done a code test to see what if any trouble
codes the computer is sending? Try going to website
www.c-edge.com/shotimes/SHO3eeccodes.html
that site is supposed to have instructions on how to test the computer
itself. Good luck.

Rade
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From: Tony
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 11:47 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.


>Hello F People,
> I previously asked a question about my truck which would not start at all
>and appeared to have fuel problems. I now need further help.
> I have taken the vehicle to my mechanic and he is not quite able to
>diagnose the problem although he is fairly certain. He believes it is the
>Engine Management Computer but cannot verify this without swapping it with
>another computer. These trucks are not common in Australia so he cannot
>swap one from another machine and if I buy a new one I am stuck with it as
>they are non-returnable. Australian F150s are sourced from Canada, but mine
>is a personal import from the United States. We suspect there may be some
>differences.
>
> He describes the symptoms as follows;
> - Will not start unless the spout connector for the timing is
>disconnected.
> - After setting timing and putting spout back, timing does not advance.
> - Blowing black smoke (running rich near idle - raw fuel from exhaust).
> - At 2000 RPM will often die and backfire.
>
> The Following parts are O.K.;
> - TFI module,
> - Coolant temperature sensor
> - Spark plugs (new),
> - Fuel filter (new),
> - Fuel pressure regulator,
> - Fuel pressure and flow are O.K.
>
> Does this sound like a Engine Management Computer problem or can you
>suggest another possibility?
>
> Do you know of any other vehicles which may have been exported to
>Australia with the same computer?
>
> Do Canadian (and therefore Australian) F150s have the same computer as
>mine (the U.S version)?
>
> Do Canadian F150s differ in other ways?
>
> Is it true that the U.S. version is superior?
>
>Thankyou in Advance,
>Tony Mexon
>Australia.
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:00:18 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem

Sorry 'bout that, I'm just trying to work on my little self-esteem
problem... :o)

Rade
- -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Soderblom
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem


>Hey Rade, you're stealing my thunder! :) THat's the info he's talking
>about below... I did exactly that a few days ago. :)
>
>Brian
>
>> If you want a more powerful alternator you can get a 130Amp
>> Motorcraft from
>> your Ford dealer. hat alternator went on '95+ Mustangs and
>> can be put on a
>> truck with minor wiring modifications.
>>
>> Rade
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JSC721 aol.com
>> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>> Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 4:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem
>>
>>
>> >hey brian, thanks for the info. i wonder if anybody else
>> has had this
>> problem
>> >besides us.well i will look into a more powerful alternator.
>> > joe
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:18:46 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade

I have an '88 F-250 Supercab with the 50-50 split cloth bench seat and
would like to upgrade it to a newer 40-20-40 type cloth bench (in blue
to match interior). I know that there have been a few posts on this
before but I am hoping to clarify a couple of points.
Was the 40-20-40 option available on these older trucks (I don't think
it was) and/or would one from the newer model years bolt in? If not a
bolt in is there a reasonable way to modify to fit? Any idea on expected
cost for a 40-20-40 seat?
Any experience with any aftermarket vendor seat that would be
comparable?

Thanks for any input.

Steve Faust - '88 F-250 4x4 (7.3)




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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:20:57 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade

I've seen 40-20-40 bench seats offer at the parts dept. of my local Ford
dealership. They are not Ford factory seat but some aftermarket company
that Ford deals with, anyway they should have one to fit an '88.

Rade
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Faust
To: 'Ford 80-96 Mailing List'
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 4:15 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade


>I have an '88 F-250 Supercab with the 50-50 split cloth bench seat and
>would like to upgrade it to a newer 40-20-40 type cloth bench (in blue
>to match interior). I know that there have been a few posts on this
>before but I am hoping to clarify a couple of points.
>Was the 40-20-40 option available on these older trucks (I don't think
>it was) and/or would one from the newer model years bolt in? If not a
>bolt in is there a reasonable way to modify to fit? Any idea on expected
>cost for a 40-20-40 seat?
>Any experience with any aftermarket vendor seat that would be
>comparable?
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Steve Faust - '88 F-250 4x4 (7.3)
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:23:56 -0600
From: "Brian Soderblom"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem

Well, there's an easy solution for that.... just get a mirror, and say
the following words while looking deep into your own eyes...

"I'm good enough... I'm smart enough... and GOSH DARNIT, PEOPLE LIKE
ME!"

:)

>
> Sorry 'bout that, I'm just trying to work on my little self-esteem
> problem... :o)
>
> Rade
>
> >Hey Rade, you're stealing my thunder! :) THat's the info
> he's talking
> >about below... I did exactly that a few days ago. :)
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >> If you want a more powerful alternator you can get a 130Amp
> >> Motorcraft from
> >> your Ford dealer. hat alternator went on '95+ Mustangs and
> >> can be put on a
> >> truck with minor wiring modifications.
> >>
> >> Rade
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: JSC721 aol.com
> >> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> >> Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 4:23 AM
> >> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - voltage problem
> >>
> >>
> >> >hey brian, thanks for the info. i wonder if anybody else
> >> has had this
> >> problem
> >> >besides us.well i will look into a more powerful alternator.
> >> > joe
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:46:17 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade

All the seats from 80-95/96 model years will bolt right in no problem. The
only modification that may need to be made is if the seat has any power
requirements. (Were power seats ever an option???)

As far as aftermarket goes, I have seen some that look great and some that
look terrible (too high, too low, crooked, will not adjust, etc.). Probably
depends on the seat and the abilities of the person doing the installation.

Sean Winters

- -----Original Message-----
From: Radoje Spasojevic [mailto:rspasoje gte.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 1998 4:21 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade


I've seen 40-20-40 bench seats offer at the parts dept. of my local Ford
dealership. They are not Ford factory seat but some aftermarket company
that Ford deals with, anyway they should have one to fit an '88.

Rade
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Faust
To: 'Ford 80-96 Mailing List'
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 4:15 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade


>I have an '88 F-250 Supercab with the 50-50 split cloth bench seat and
>would like to upgrade it to a newer 40-20-40 type cloth bench (in blue
>to match interior). I know that there have been a few posts on this
>before but I am hoping to clarify a couple of points.
>Was the 40-20-40 option available on these older trucks (I don't think
>it was) and/or would one from the newer model years bolt in? If not a
>bolt in is there a reasonable way to modify to fit? Any idea on expected
>cost for a 40-20-40 seat?
>Any experience with any aftermarket vendor seat that would be
>comparable?
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Steve Faust - '88 F-250 4x4 (7.3)
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:01:46 -0400
From: Andre Roy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Into and q

Hi there! How's it goin'?

Let me introduce myself. My name is Andre Roy and I work at Nipissing
University in North Bay, Ontario, Canada. If you need to find that on a
map, draw a line due north from Toronto and a line due east from the
intersections of Lakes Huron, Superior and Michigan. I'm at the
intersection of the two lines.

A couple of months ago, my Father-in-law (the long suffering spouse of
the Mother-in-law-from-H*!!) gave me his truck. It's a 1981 F150. Here's
what I know about it. 300CID six, 9" rear. Trhee speed automatic. Vary
basic. The FIL was the second owner of the truck, the first is listed as
"Her Majesty the Queen" 8-O It used to belong to the Ministry of
Transportation.

This is only the third of fourth Ford in out family, depending on how
you count. The first was a 1951 Monarch. I vaguely remember riding in
it. All I really do remember is that it was green and parked in our back
yeard after the engine 'seized'. We moved away for a few years, when we
came back, the Monarch was gone and in its' place was a 1956(?) Meteor.
It wsn't ours, so we can't really count it. The third was a 1971
Econoline, 302, three-on-the-tree. An empty (and loud) box on wheels.
This F150 is the fourth. So I don't really know much about Fords....

This brings me to my question. What transmission do I have? All I know
is that it's a three speed automatic. The Haynes manual I have says that
it could be a C4, C5 or C6 but doesn't go into how to identify them.

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:02:43 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not quite.

I worked at the truck plant here in Canada for a while. Trucks are shipped
all over the world from OTP ( Ontario Truck Plant, in Oakville Ontario ).
All trucks with the same engine got the same computer. There are variations
of each computer for transmissions and emissions levels. There were minor
differences to some trucks shipped to some countries; DLR modules were not
installed in U.S. bound trucks, some emissions devises left off trucks
bound for the Middle East, that sort of thing. There is no particular
advantage or disadvantage to owning a truck bound for one country or
another.

Your problem sounds more like something external to computer. ( Ford ( or
actually Motorola ) holds the world wide record for shipping fault free
computers ) The computer diagnostics are the best place to start. If there
are no codes ( as was my case a week or so ago ), start looking for
mechanical sources of trouble; fuel pressure, air leaks, ( or in my case,
bad EGR valve ) I'm sure that if you are getting black smoke once the
engine has warmed up, the computer will have something to say about it.

Matt
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> From: Tony
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: '86 F150 5.0 LARIAT nearly fixed - but not
quite.
> Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 6:37 AM
>
> Hello F People,
> I previously asked a question about my truck which would not start at
all
> and appeared to have fuel problems. I now need further help.
> I have taken the vehicle to my mechanic and he is not quite able to
> diagnose the problem although he is fairly certain. He believes it is the
> Engine Management Computer but cannot verify this without swapping it
with
> another computer. These trucks are not common in Australia so he cannot
> swap one from another machine and if I buy a new one I am stuck with it
as
> they are non-returnable. Australian F150s are sourced from Canada, but
mine
> is a personal import from the United States. We suspect there may be some
> differences.
>
> He describes the symptoms as follows;
> - Will not start unless the spout connector for the timing is
> disconnected.
> - After setting timing and putting spout back, timing does not advance.
> - Blowing black smoke (running rich near idle - raw fuel from exhaust).
> - At 2000 RPM will often die and backfire.
>
> The Following parts are O.K.;
> - TFI module,
> - Coolant temperature sensor
> - Spark plugs (new),
> - Fuel filter (new),
> - Fuel pressure regulator,
> - Fuel pressure and flow are O.K.
>
> Does this sound like a Engine Management Computer problem or can you
> suggest another possibility?
>
> Do you know of any other vehicles which may have been exported to
> Australia with the same computer?
>
> Do Canadian (and therefore Australian) F150s have the same computer as
> mine (the U.S version)?
>
> Do Canadian F150s differ in other ways?
>
> Is it true that the U.S. version is superior?
>
> Thankyou in Advance,
> Tony Mexon
> Australia.
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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:34:39 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Seat Upgrade

Steve Faust wrote:
>
> I have an '88 F-250 Supercab with the 50-50 split cloth bench seat and
> would like to upgrade it to a newer 40-20-40 type cloth bench (in blue
> to match interior). I know that there have been a few posts on this
> before but I am hoping to clarify a couple of points.
> Was the 40-20-40 option available on these older trucks (I don't think
> it was) and/or would one from the newer model years bolt in? If not a
> bolt in is there a reasonable way to modify to fit? Any idea on expected
> cost for a 40-20-40 seat?
> Any experience with any aftermarket vendor seat that would be
> comparable?
>
> Thanks for any input.

Are you looking for the set up like in my Lightning? Try downs ford they
should even be able to tell you if it bolts up or not!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.downsford.com
Hope this helps
Chris
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:05:38 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300 Inline Six

The big 6 has diesel-like low end performance but no top end to speak of.
Mine can tow anything but is really slow, even with a K&N. Mechanically
speaking, the bottom end should last forever (7 main bearings, vs. 4 on a
V6 and 5 on a V8) but be warned: that big, long head is prone to warpage
if abused. So, if you maintain your cooling system religiously and don't
mind the sight of Ch&>y taillights, you'll love the 300.
lordjanusz

'94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 (FT block) '97 Saturn (SWMBO's)

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:25:50 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 Inline Six

The 300 will beat the pants off a Chevy equiped with their sorry little 4.3L
V-6 base engine.

Rade
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From: Paul M Radecki
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 6:19 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300 Inline Six


>The big 6 has diesel-like low end performance but no top end to speak of.
> Mine can tow anything but is really slow, even with a K&N. Mechanically
>speaking, the bottom end should last forever (7 main bearings, vs. 4 on a
>V6 and 5 on a V8) but be warned: that big, long head is prone to warpage
>if abused. So, if you maintain your cooling system religiously and don't
>mind the sight of Ch&>y taillights, you'll love the 300.
> lordjanusz
>
>'94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 (FT block) '97 Saturn (SWMBO's)
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:28:38 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Into and q

If your truck is a two-wheel drive you probably have a C-5, four wheel drive
is probably a C-4.

Rade
- -----Original Message-----
From: Andre Roy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 5:03 PM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Into and q


>Hi there! How's it goin'?
>
>Let me introduce myself. My name is Andre Roy and I work at Nipissing
>University in North Bay, Ontario, Canada. If you need to find that on a
>map, draw a line due north from Toronto and a line due east from the
>intersections of Lakes Huron, Superior and Michigan. I'm at the
>intersection of the two lines.
>
>A couple of months ago, my Father-in-law (the long suffering spouse of
>the Mother-in-law-from-H*!!) gave me his truck. It's a 1981 F150. Here's
>what I know about it. 300CID six, 9" rear. Trhee speed automatic. Vary
>basic. The FIL was the second owner of the truck, the first is listed as
>"Her Majesty the Queen" 8-O It used to belong to the Ministry of
>Transportation.
>
>This is only the third of fourth Ford in out family, depending on how
>you count. The first was a 1951 Monarch. I vaguely remember riding in
>it. All I really do remember is that it was green and parked in our back
>yeard after the engine 'seized'. We moved away for a few years, when we
>came back, the Monarch was gone and in its' place was a 1956(?) Meteor.
>It wsn't ours, so we can't really count it. The third was a 1971
>Econoline, 302, three-on-the-tree. An empty (and loud) box on wheels.
>This F150 is the fourth. So I don't really know much about Fords....
>
>This brings me to my question. What transmission do I have? All I know
>is that it's a three speed automatic. The Haynes manual I have says that
>it could be a C4, C5 or C6 but doesn't go into how to identify them.
>
>--
>Andre, Somewhere ...
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:26:01 -0500
From: Mike Harms
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Air Conditioning Conversion to R134a

>Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:17:08 -0600
>From: "David Sagers"
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Air Conditioning Conversion to
R134a

>Last time I checked PEP boys had all the parts to rebuild an
A/C, and a =
>lot of the R-12, the price is high because of the tax placed on
it, but =
>still available.


R-12 is no longer manufactured by American companies. This
refrigerant was phased out. Any that you buy today is from stockpiles,
non-American suppliers, or recycled. Limited supplies is much of what
makes the price high, not any taxes. (Though their may be some pretty
stiff import duties imposed) It also is no longer available in anything
smaller than a 30lb container and selling of the product requires the
purchaser to be licensed to work with the product. Due to the high
price, the difference between repairing with R-12 or Converting your
system to other refrigerants can make it nearly a toss up.

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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:25:16 EDT
From: FSTFORDS aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - STULL GRILL..POLISHED FOR SALE

same grill...but also has the o.e. frod emblem that costed $35...
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Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:05:31 -0700
From: "Gerald L. Hinkle Jr. CPA"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Warning to members with children.

Hello list people. This posting is intended to warn members of dangers
posed to children in the bed of your pickup as well as to solicit info on
anybody who has experienced this situation. I have a two year old son who
was playing in the bed of my 94 F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 while his mother sat on
the tailgate. My son reached into one of the stake holes along the bed
rail and got stuck. His arm was stuck up to his little elbow and we could
not get it out. It turns out that inside the stake holes, there is a
support beam that has two small holes in it. My son reached into the stake....

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