80-96-list-digest Wednesday, July 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 261



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Rear Main Seal
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel gauge sticking
RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel gauge sticking
FTE 80-96 - Speedometer recalibration
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Your email address ford-trucks.com!
[none]
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Swap
FTE 80-96 - Re: crankcase breather
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Last chance to nominate us!
FTE 80-96 - RE: Trans cooler lines
FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:46:26 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Rear Main Seal

Hey Gang,
Okay I am going to start the process tonight of replacing
my rear main seal. Because I have the one piece rear main seal,
I have to go through the clutch/bell housing. Now I know how to
get to the flywheel and take that off, since I just done it three weeks
ago. :-( I am just not sure what to do then when I get to that point.
The Haynes was kinda unclear on that.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:46:27 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel gauge sticking

Thanks to all who replied on the problem I am having with my fuel gauge.
Since I posted the original message, I had the need to fill this tank again
and the gauge read completely full. Once again, however, it hung up when it
got a little below the full mark. This leads me to believe that the float
is indeed sticking at that point. Why, I don't know, especially when it
worked correctly for the first few tanks I ran through it. One would think
it would jar itself loose as the tank got near empty and I bounced over
railroad tracks, etc. I don't relish the thought of dropping that tank
again so I may just live with the problem for awhile and hope it solves
itself. Any more thoughts after hearing this new information are
appreciated.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas


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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:46:45 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fuel gauge sticking

James,

The fuel sensor in my Scout II did the same thing.
The variable resistance strip and wiper arm was
damaged. I removed it and fixed it but eventually
had to replace the sensor after it became erratic
again.

Scott

> Once again, however, it hung up when it
> got a little below the full mark. This leads
> me to believe that the float
> is indeed sticking at that point.
> Why, I don't know, especially when it
> worked correctly for the first few tanks
> I ran through it.
>
> Any more thoughts after hearing this new
> information are appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:04:41 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Speedometer recalibration

I recently replaced the 235-85R16 tires on my '92 F250 with a 285-75R16
tires, increasing the diameter by about an inch from 32" to 33". Wanting to
recalibrate my speedometer by resetting the conversion constant as posted
here previously, I calculated the new conversion constant (tire revs/mile *
108/8000) to be 8.29. I also decided I wanted to verify the old conversion
constant stored in the computer versus what I calculated for the old tires.
My calculations showed the conversion contant for the old tires should be
8.57. Then I went to my truck and followed the procedure to find the stored
conversion constant and it showed a value of 9.84, 14.8% greater than my
calculated value for the old tires. Now I know my speedometer is not off
that much so I decided not to store my new value (8.29) until I resolved
this discrepancy.

Can anyone account for the difference in conversion constants I found? Do I
need to verify my new value by marking a tire and checking the distance
rolled in say 10 revolutions? Did I use the wrong formula to calculate the
conversion constant? Maybe others can do this on their trucks and see if
they have a similar discrepancy. Any thoughts appreciated.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:50:49 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Your email address ford-trucks.com!

>From the Ford Truck Enthusiasts admin, please read it, its
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In order to keep Peggy and I from spending even more of our
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 06:15:40 EST
From: "John Ukos"
Subject: [none]

I keep getting error messages returned after posting a message . Can
you help?

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:39:54 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Swap

>From: "David Roemhild"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engine Swap
>
>snip
>
>Now, my question is this: I bought my '85 knowing that the
>engine was going to need a rebuild. Rather than rebuild it,
>I think that I am going to swap the 351 with a '71 429 out of an
>old LTD.
>
>1) I am fairly certain that the oil pump on the 429 is in the front
>and in the rear on the 351. As such, I imagine that the oil pan
>is going to need to be changed. Any suggestions?

Yo Dan:

Actually, the oil pumps in both engines are in front, but the 351 has a
rear sump pan (w/ a pickup tube that runs back there) because all late
model trucks ('80-up) require a rear sump pan to clear the crossmember.
Any 460 oil pan should fit your 429. I would look in the boneyards for a
late model truck that has a 460 you can snatch the oil pan from, of if you
want, try a Ford dealer. You'll also need the pickup tube for the 460 rear
sump pan.

>2) Also, are the engine mounts the same (or reconfigurable)?
>Or, am I going to need to change them? If so, where should I
>get the replacements?

You'll need engine mounts for a 460. The 460 was an option in trucks from
'82 on, so again, you could scavenge these from a boneyard truck. You
could probably get them at a dealer, as well.

>3) I plan on switching the ignition to an elctronic ignition.
> Any suggestions on brands?

The 351 in your truck probably uses the Ford EEC-IV electronic ignition.
If you want a simpler, yet cheap, system, you could switch to the Ford
DuraSpark II system, which was used from '76 to '84 in trucks. Again, the
budget place to acquire components is the boneyard. You can get
replacement parts for the DuraSpark II system inexpensively at almost any
auto parts shop.

Is emissions legality an issue for you? If so and you don't want to keep
the EEC-IV system, you can look into an MSD or Jacobs system. Those seem
to be the most popular, simple drop-in aftermarket systems.

Good luck w/ your truck.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)


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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:34:00 -0500
From: "Jram"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: crankcase breather

I have a '95 F-150 with a 5.0 and it has no crankcase breather either. Just
another unexplained Ford year model change.
Jram

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:22:10 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Last chance to nominate us!

Nominations close on August 1st.

Car Lounge is taking nominations for the #1 automotive site
for Autumn 98. Due to the support from list members in the
Spring, Ford Truck Enthusiasts won 1st place for the Summer
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Enthusiasts, please visit:

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Regards,
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:55:43 EDT
From: RobSweed aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Trans cooler lines

In a message dated 98-07-28 06:54:29 EDT, you write:


couplers, or snap something. I have never been able to find them
anyplace but a Ford dealer. Take the broken one with you because I
believe that there are 2 sizes. It would probably be a good idea to get
two, because the unbroken one has a 99% chance to leak, IMHO.
Good Luck, Buck Shoff >>

Buck, Is this the same kind of fitting that are on the high pressure fuel
lines that require a special tool that fits into it and opens a spring?

Bob
robsweed aol.com

'94 Ford F-150 SC 4X4 5.0 E4OD
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:55:42 EDT
From: RobSweed aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD

David Anderson wrote,

>As far as I know the E4OD is a four speed with a lockup torque
>converter. Like yours, mine feels like it has more shifts than four.
>Mine seems to go: first, second, then lockup, third, then lockup,
>fourth, then lockup. I thought at first these extra lockups were
>incorrect, but no one said this was unusual. The "shift program" may
>vary for different years or powertrain combinations. Mine is a '90
>F150, 300CI six, 2WD. By the way, these extra torque converter lockups
>were a little harsh before changing fluid and filter. Now they are
>still there - can see it on the tach - but they are very smooth. Let me
>know what you find out. I'm still not sure this is normal.

Dave, I turned off the OD to eliminate that possibility. If it is a 4 speed
then I'm not getting much action in 3rd because it seems to go right to 4th.
Even when I try to accelerate in 3rd it either goes to 4th or drops down to
2nd. It confuses the heck out of me.

Thanks,

Bob....


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