80-96-list-digest Friday, July 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 247



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Manual stick removal
RE: FTE 80-96 - RE: Hi Lift Jack Missile
FTE 80-96 - 95 ZF 5-speed in an '85 6.9 diesel??
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Manual stick removal
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires
FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injection
FTE 80-96 - Towing Question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Manual stick removal
Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injection
Re: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question
FTE 80-96 - Weak 2.3L (was: Car & Driver this month)
FTE 80-96 - re: Ranger vs. boat trailer
FTE 80-96 - re: Ranger vs. boat trailer
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Hi Lift Jack Missile
FTE 80-96 - 87 ford Ranger won't start! HELP NEEDED ASAP
FTE 80-96 - Re: High Lift jack missile
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: High Lift jack missile
FTE 80-96 - Re: HI-Lify Jack Storage
Re: FTE 80-96 - tires rub radius arms
FTE 80-96 - Re; Running rich ... the final episode
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Diesel cats
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Diesel cats

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:32:07 -0700
From: cassis
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires

Just remeber one thing - you get what you pay for.

John Cassis
93' STX 4x4 .0/5-speed

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From:Jram [SMTP:Jram swbell.net]
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To:80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires

To Doug, I have run Futura Dakota tires from Pep boys on 4x4 for quiet some
time now. They are durable and ride well on my truck. And the price is
right. $260 for two BF Godrick or $150 for Futuras. Give me the Futuras any
day. Just my experience.
Jim

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:52:29 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Manual stick removal

Casey Vandor wrote:

> Humm, I should have asked first here.... I have the truck scrunched in
> the garage, (running boards off, mirrors folded in, canopy off, and
> jacked as high as the door opener allows..... small garage....) I
> didn't take the seats out, (too late now) but it doesn't seem to be in

Casey,
WHY IS IT TOO LATE ? I think you are going to have to . Oh
wait a minute, I'll bet you do not have the truck totally in the air
on 4 jackstands. Is that right ? Not that it matters, but is this a
Bronco or a pickup ? If you have the truck on 4 jacks then there
should be no reason you cannot take the plate off around the stick shift
then that allows you also to be able to slide the transmission/transfer
case back. If nothing else, you might have to bolt it back up and get the
entire truck on jackstands. I really don't see a problem with getting
it out due to the amount of height you say you cannot get, BUT
if you only have the front jacked up then I can start to see some
problems.

Let me tell you a problem of mine so you don't get discouraged.
Last Friday/Saturday was the first time I messed with the transmission.
Now less than a week latter I am going to have to take the damn
transmission out AGAIN. Yes, the rear main seal is now bad. It
was all tight before I replaced the clutch, now it leaks pretty good.
Therefore, you might want to replace the rear seal while you are there.
So I will start tearing down the Bronco tonight, AGAIN. Now, I could
access that through the oil pan which makes me happy. But unfortunately
when replacing the clutch, took off the flywheel and one of the flywheel
bolts were stripped, therefore I am opening that back up to retap the
hole as well. Well it sucks, but everyone has there problems too. Keep
pluggin away !!! We'll be here for ya. :-) Oh one other thing, check and
see if you need to resurface the flywheel. Also, if it doesn't look like you

need to resurface it, then take some 400 grit sandpaper and rough the
surface up a little. If you don't know how to inspect the flkywheel,
then I would take to someone you knew that could tell you or a shop
that resurfaces them and ask them. Now what your looking for on the
flywheel is a smooth surface. You do not want any pits or dips.


> now would be the time to do it since it is all torn apart.

THE DARN REAR MAIN SEAL :-)

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:48:11 -0700
From: cassis
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - RE: Hi Lift Jack Missile

Hey I was talking those heavy duty black rubber ones (bungies). If all you
want to do is hold it from rolling around they should hold, but if you are
trying to suppoprt it any other way I could see them snapping.

John Cassis

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From:Mike Mueller [SMTP:MikeM leasingdept.com]
Sent:Wednesday, July 15, 1998 11:27 PM
To:Ford Truck List
Subject:FTE 80-96 - RE: Hi Lift Jack Missile

Hey all-
The Bungies would snap in a second.
I like the idea though- so I'll modify it a lil bit.
My vote is to "hang" it either on the side, above the wheel well.
Or better yet, if it will fit across the front, behind the cab.
I like the L bracket but what you need is a positive lock.
It wouldn't take much to bend a couple of very large gate hinges into an L(
or make it all from scratch!).
Mount the top of the upright section of the L to the bed rail
I used the hinge for an example so that the other half would extend back up
to the bed rail and either lock or latch.
Let me try it this way...Viewed in cross section, 2 sections, use arial
font, don't try this at home, sorry for the bandwith...

l l
l l
l l
l l jack here
l l
l l
l l___________________
l____________________O -hinge

_
l l
l l
l l -lock or bolt
l l
l l
l l__________________
l__________________ l
l l
l l
l l
( jack here ) l l
l l
l l
l l


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Email is so hard to convey pictures with, eh?
I can send a .jpg to you or even a fax alot easier.
Hope this helps!
Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com




Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:04:25 -0700
From: cassis
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Hi Lift Jack Missile

This might sound a little cheesey, but 4 "L"-type hooks (heavy duty ones
not little puney ones) and either 2 bungie cords or some sort of straping
system would secure it pretty safely.

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From:But Why [SMTP:ramprat cheyenneweb.com]
Sent:Wednesday, July 15, 1998 5:41 AM
To:97up-list ford-trucks.com; 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:FTE 80-96 - Hi Lift Jack Missile

Anybody have any ideas on how to bolt down a Hi Lift jack in a pick up with
a topper so it
does not become a missile in a collision or roll over? I would like to
secure it someplace
that we could still get to it easy enough when needed!

Thanks

JJ

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:46:40 PDT
From: "BRET LUTER"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 95 ZF 5-speed in an '85 6.9 diesel??

Hello Ford truck gurus.

There's a possibility I can obtain a ZF 5-speed tranny from a 95 F-super
duty truck at a reasonable price. I've been having trouble with the old
4-speed tranny in my '85 F350 6.9l diesel and I'm wondering how
compatible these tranny's are (assuming that the '95 is a 7.3
powerstroke diesel...). Let me know any experiences or info ASAP as I'd
hate for this one to get away. TIA. Bret in Raleigh, NC

(bound and determined to make this truck a little more German ;) )


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:13:02 -0600
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires

That is so true.... because of my cheap mindscape a year ago I bought
General's for my old truck.... they almost wore out in one year 10,000 miles
on them.

Ryan Penner
95 F150

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From: cassis
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires


>Just remeber one thing - you get what you pay for.
>
>John Cassis
>93' STX 4x4 .0/5-speed
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jram [SMTP:Jram swbell.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 4:40 PM
>To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires
>
>To Doug, I have run Futura Dakota tires from Pep boys on 4x4 for quiet some
>time now. They are durable and ride well on my truck. And the price is
>right. $260 for two BF Godrick or $150 for Futuras. Give me the Futuras any
>day. Just my experience.
>Jim
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:19:56 -0400
From: D Robertson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Manual stick removal

Casey:

On my 86 w/ OD tranny , you remove the stick by turning the part that has
the pin through it. The shop manual says to use a small diameter oil filter
wrench. It will remove the stick w/ the bearing and pin. It is a rather
thin part. The filter wrench I used is driven with a rachet so I could turn
it from the top.

Dave


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:23:48 -0400
From: D Robertson
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Pep boys tires

I just had Pep Boys install 4 tires on my wife's car , it took them over
three hours , and it saved me a grand total of $40. The Pep Boys are not
too peppy. They lost me.

Dave


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 7:46:38 -0800
From: callah S1.hninc.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injection

Has anyone ever converted a Carbureted 300cid (4.9L) I-6 engine to fuel
injection? Is there an aftermarket product that work well or do I need
to find a system from a junkyard?

Gary Callahan
'81 F-150 Custom 4x4

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:56:50 -0400
From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr."
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question

Hey all,

I've been following the list for about a month now, but this
is my first posting. I've got a 95 F-150, x-cab, 4x4, 302, auto E4OD,
mostly stock aside from a cap and some 31" BFG's. I'm going to be
heading out to Stugis, SD in August of '99 and plan on towing my
Harley out there. (I haven't yet developed enough of an iron butt
to make it from Jersey on the bike!) I'm also going to be be bringing
a few others, but that's neither here nor there.
Basically, I want to tow a 4000-5000lb trailer from Jersey to
South Dakota (~1800 miles each way). I'm really green when it comes
to towing equipment, so does anybody have any suggestions on how I could
lighten any strain on my truck, or if there might be a problem? Anything
from additional cooling systems to certain towing hitches to specific oil
grades would help. I've got a whole year to prepare, so even moderately
large modifications shouldn't be a problem if the benefit is worth it.
Sorry if this was wordy, but I didn't want to leave anything out.

Thanks in advance! :-)

Mike
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:50:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: R Lindberg / E Winnie
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question

If you have the tow package installed a 5000 lb trailer isn't a problem.
You will need a brake-controller though (assuming the trailer has brakes,
at that weight it is required in most states).

If you don't have the trailer tow package consider the following:
Replacing the radiator with a larger one (part of the super-cooling
package, included in the tow package)
Adding a trany cooler (if there isn't one there already)

Even if you do consider these:
Adding a trany temp gauge
Adding the Banks replacment Trany controler. My local trany expert
thinks these things needed on any Ford E4OD trany that sees loads. Since
he started installing them in Tow-Trucks they don't keep coming back
(again and again) with failures.

Ralph Lindberg N7BSN ICQ#5988954
RV and Camping FAQ
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:50:55 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Manual stick removal

Casey, take a good look at that pin on the shifter ball. I have removed a
shifter before a long timr ago on a 80 Bronco with a stick. It turned out
that there are pins on either side of the shifter ball. The cover of the
ball was actually a lock ring that can be turned to release the shifter. I
can not remember if it turns clockwise or counter-clockwise.
Hope this helps...

Bob


At 10:12 PM 7/15/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Humm, I should have asked first here.... I have the truck scrunched in
>the garage, (running boards off, mirrors folded in, canopy off, and
>jacked as high as the door opener allows..... small garage....) I
>didn't take the seats out, (too late now) but it doesn't seem to be in
>the way too much, except that the large plate cannot be removed for
>access to underneath. I just cant lift the truck high enough (no
>clearance) to be able to drop the tranny without taking the stick out,
>and being that is all bent to fit around the ashtray and stuff, that
>doesn't help either..... There is a pin going crossways through the
>round section where the stick goes in, but I am not sure how to drive it
>out, or even if I should at all.
>
> guess I will just drive it out and hope I can put it back in later.
>anything down there that I should replace other than the all the pieces
>in the clutch pac and the pilot bushing? now would be the time to do it
>since it is all torn apart.
>
>Thanks
>Casey Vandor
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:33:36 -0400
From: D Robertson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injection

Gary:

I just went through considering this on my 86. The things that occured to
me were:
Hood clearence , would the hood close with the big intake ?
The computer connection , my 86's computer has no plug at the fire wall the
donor truck (a 1990) had a big round feedthrough , could be cut in.
I was thinking of just changing the head and a Ford mech. said make sure
the cams are compatable.
Changing the gas tank to one with the intank pump plus relays , and return
fuel lines.
Instead of changing the head I considered swaping in the whole engine and
wondered if the tranny would mate to a newer block.
I also got a price from the junkyard for a 5.0l in a running Crown Vic of
$500 for the whole car, computer etc

I ended up buying a new Ford carb ~$400 and was done in 45 minutes and the
truck runs like its new.

Take care
Dave


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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:39:49 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question

R Lindberg / E Winnie wrote:

> Adding a trany cooler (if there isn't one there already)

Any recommendations for an easy to install cooler?

> Adding the Banks replacment Trany controler. My local trany expert
> thinks these things needed on any Ford E4OD trany that sees loads.

Where are the available and how much are they?

Thanks,

Ed White

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:18:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: R Lindberg / E Winnie
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Towing Question

On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, C. E. White wrote:

> Any recommendations for an easy to install cooler?
Sorry, no. I doubt there is an easy way

> Where are the available and how much are they?
Many Trany Shops, truck and 4x4 shops, Camping World and
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://fiss.com/banks/fibanks130.htm.
As I recall they cost around $240 (US)

Ralph Lindberg N7BSN ICQ#5988954
RV and Camping FAQ
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:15:25
From: Tim Clevenger
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Weak 2.3L (was: Car & Driver this month)

I don't know if all 2.3L's are weak, but mine sure is. It's an 86 with 175k on it and a 5-speed. In moderate hills (such as the Altamont pass here in the Bay Area) I can't maintain 60 mph floored in fourth gear. (My 240SX with a 2.4L engine will accelerate up that same hill in fifth.)

I've considered upgrading to a newer 4.0L Ranger, but C&D still lists the towing capacity of the '99 Splash as 2,000 pounds--far behind that of the Toyota PreRunner, Chevy S-10 and Dodge Dakota. Oh well, I guess it's F-150 time.

Anybody else out there with a 2.3L 5-speed Ranger let me know your experiences? If it's just my particular engine, I'd be glad to try to rebuild it. If I take it in and dyno it, what should I expect at the rear wheels for an '86 2.3L in very good condition?

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
90 Nissan 240SX SE
86 Ford Ranger 2WD
86 Honda Helix

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 9:27:32 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:Car & Driver this month

Is the 2.3L that weak? I don't mean that in a controversial way. I'm
curious!
I have a '87 2.9 Ranger, in which I've added booster springs to, and haul
a '70 Torino GT on a flatbed trailer all over the place. I've had no real
problems. I did buy an '68 F100 since to haul my car, but only because I
wanted
the extra mirror width. My 'lil Ranger also has 245,000 miles on it and has never
been rebuilt. Of course the 360FE has more power, but also hurts in the MPG

area.



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:21:46
From: Tim Clevenger
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re: Ranger vs. boat trailer

Fortunately, the boat added little weight to the trailer, so it didn't affect the performance much. The first time I tried, I gave it half throttle and eased the clutch out as the truck accelerated. As soon as the clutch was 3/4 out, the engine bogged and stalled. After another attempt like this, I finally gave it 3/4 throttle and feathered the clutch somewhere between rolling backwards and light wheelspin. Unfortunately, that pretty much means that if I stick with the same truck, I'm limited to boats under 500 pounds with trailer, and I'm itching to upgrade.

I agree with you--it's F-150 time. What kind of mileage do you get? Automatic or manual?

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
90 Nissan 240SX SE
86 Ford Ranger 2WD
86 Honda Helix

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Sounds like you need a bigger truck! I liked my '86 Ranger, but when I
traded for a '94 F150 (fuel injected 300) I got better mileage and a
truck that can tow a house off its foundation while carrying 4X8 sheets
of plywood. So how DID you get the boat out of the water, anyway?



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:23:34
From: Tim Clevenger
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re: Ranger vs. boat trailer

Fortunately, the boat added little weight to the trailer, so it didn't affect the performance much. The first time I tried, I gave it half throttle and eased the clutch out as the truck accelerated. As soon as the clutch was 3/4 out, the engine bogged and stalled. After another attempt like this, I finally gave it 3/4 throttle and feathered the clutch somewhere between rolling backwards and light wheelspin. Unfortunately, that pretty much means that if I stick with the same truck, I'm limited to boats under 500 pounds with trailer, and I'm itching to upgrade.

I agree with you--it's F-150 time. What kind of mileage do you get? Automatic or manual?

Regards,

Tim Clevenger
90 Nissan 240SX SE
86 Ford Ranger 2WD
86 Honda Helix

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Sounds like you need a bigger truck! I liked my '86 Ranger, but when I
traded for a '94 F150 (fuel injected 300) I got better mileage and a
truck that can tow a house off its foundation while carrying 4X8 sheets
of plywood. So how DID you get the boat out of the water, anyway?



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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:34:06 -0700
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Hi Lift Jack Missile

cassis wrote:
>
> Hey I was talking those heavy duty black rubber ones (bungies). If all you
> want to do is hold it from rolling around they should hold, but if you are
> trying to suppoprt it any other way I could see them snapping.

I believe that the idea was to prevent the jack from becoming a missile
into the cab in case of an accident. Even the heavy black rubber ones
wouldn't do that. Requires a solid anchor.
Paul in Portland OR
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:42:56 -0700
From: Terri Lawson
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 87 ford Ranger won't start! HELP NEEDED ASAP

HI List
I have just recently joined this list. I am in dire
need of some assistance. My 87 Ford Ranger 2.9litre engine
is driving me crazy. To make a long list short...for a
couple of years I had intermitent bucking and chugging.
Replaced the TPS no difference. Kept taking it to different
shops and no one could find the problem. Well now 2 fuel
pump relays later 2 new fuel pump ( one high one low
pressure) and I am still being stranded on the side of the
road. Here are my new symptoms...Truck runs
fine....suddenly it stalls. Try and start it again and it
will try to turn over but no cigar so to speak. I am not
hearing the fuel pump come on but I changed the relay again
today and it did not make any difference just the usual
relay double click. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
Could the inertia switch be the culprit? Any and all help
would be appreciated fast!!! The truck is in a mall parking
lot.
TIA
Terri Lawson

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:52:33 -0800
From: Casey Vandor
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: High Lift jack missile

When mine still worked, I kept it on a towel under the rear of the
seat. It was always accesible and it was wedged in there pretty tight,
and I also had two nylon straps around it and the seat track. Seemed to
work fine. (just curious here, I went to replace my broken one, and all
the stores want 79.99 for a 48" high lift jack. Does that seem
reasonable or a little high?

Just more food for though
Casey Vandor

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:12:20 -0600
From: "Brian Soderblom"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: High Lift jack missile

Where are you? That seems a bit high... I bought mine at the end of
Feb and paid about $50 for it (48" jack.)

Brian

> When mine still worked, I kept it on a towel under the rear of the
> seat. It was always accesible and it was wedged in there
> pretty tight,
> and I also had two nylon straps around it and the seat
> track. Seemed to
> work fine. (just curious here, I went to replace my broken
> one, and all
> the stores want 79.99 for a 48" high lift jack. Does that seem
> reasonable or a little high?
>
> Just more food for though
> Casey Vandor

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:17:49 -0500
From: "Jram"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: HI-Lify Jack Storage

I just bought a Hi-Lift jack and they make a really secure storage system
for it. I threw away the brochureof course (thinking I would never need it
again) but they have a website.
www.hi-lift.com
All kinds of jacks and accessories from rebuild kits to covers to storage
clamps. Hope this helps.
Jram


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:20:32 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - tires rub radius arms

Barry,
Did you put new wheels on as well? If so, your backspacing is too
shallow and causing the rub. You could put on a set of wheel spacers
and that'll set the wheels out about another 1/4" but that may not be
enough. Otherwise I see only two remedies if you want to keep those
tires: Don't crank it so hard (mentioned by another poster) or
putting on new wheels with a shallower backspacing (distance from the
outer lip of the rim to the flat hub surface that fits against the
rotors and has the holes for the lug nuts). Downside here is that the
tires may stick out past the fenderwells. Of course, maybe you might
like that look in which case it wouldn't be a problem.
Later,
Randy (Brew)

Barry Baker wrote:
>
> I recently installed a set of 31*10.5*15 tires on my '87 SC 4X4 F150 XLT
> Lariat (351W), and am now noticing occasional tire rub on the radius arms
> when it's really cranked. I've lot's of similar trucks running the same
> size, so I'm not quite sure what to think. It appears that the rims are
> stock.
>
> A buddy mentioned that I could adjust the turn-stops, but I'm a little
> hesitant to do this as I tow a 26' travel trailer so would like to retain as
> much manoeuvrability as possible. Any suggestions?
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:19:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re; Running rich ... the final episode

Bob Johnson Wrote:
>Bob Johnson
>Subject: FTE 80-96 -
>
>plug! I'll never overlook the obvious again -
>it's too expensive! But I love my Ranger.

Bob,
Good lesson for everyone.

Keep in Touch,
Andrew


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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:32:31 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Diesel cats

Paul M Radecki wrote:
>
[snip]
I read someplace (maybe it was here, I forget) that the
> new transmissions in the '99s allowed Ford to tune the Powerstroke for
> full rated power (always had to de-tune it before so the tranny would
> outlive the warranty).

I didn't know that, nor do I have the ratings for the previous
diesels, but my buddy just picked up a new Ford van w/the 7.3 rated at
500 lb/ft of torque!!! Would you EVER need more than that? I suppose
if you moved from a mountainous region and wanted to take it w/you
MAYBE... :)

Later,
Randy (Brew)

> '94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 (360ci) '97 Saturn (35 mpg...so there!)
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:39:59 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Diesel cats

> > new transmissions in the '99s allowed Ford to tune the Powerstroke
> > for full rated power (always had to de-tune it before so the tranny > > would outlive the warranty).
>
> I didn't know that, nor do I have the ratings for the previous
> diesels, but my buddy just picked up a new Ford van w/the 7.3 rated at
> 500 lb/ft of torque!!! Would you EVER need more than that?

Actually, the Ford iteration of the Navisatar T 444E engine is only
moderately tuned. International uses several more powerful versions of....


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