80-96-list-digest Saturday, May 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 182



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Bronco rear window
RE: FTE 80-96 - Oil Level on 6 cyl.
FTE 80-96 - RE: Crankcase Oil Level
Re: FTE 80-96 - REPAIR MANUAL 1994 F150
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Crankcase Oil Level
Re: FTE 80-96 - REPAIR MANUAL 1994 F150
FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale
Re: FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale
RE: FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale
FTE 80-96 - Re; Oil Level on 6 Cyl.
FTE 80-96 - Joe Escarre, read!
FTE 80-96 - Re:Service Manuals
FTE 80-96 - Re: installation process

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:55:14 -0400
From: Jon Rishell
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Bronco rear window


Last thing my rear window does not come down. The key does not work
and neither
does the switch. I have checked the fuse panel it seems to
be Todd,
In regards to the back window on your Bronco, the power for the motor
AND
the switch in the tailgate that is operated with the key, comes through
the switch in the front, if you are getting juice to it, I would guess
that the switch is bad, only because I had the exact same problem. the
best thing to do is to
trouble shooot the switch to make sure it is bad before going to get
another one, but I would say from prior experience that is what it is .
Hope this helps!


Jon
'86 Merc Sable
'83 F-250 ( the big brown turd!)
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:53:09 -0500
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Oil Level on 6 cyl.

I had the same motor and it did the same thing. I think if you let it
drain for a few days it would get most of the oil out and you'd get
almost 6 in there. Dry it probably holds 6 qts. I never had to add
more than 5 to get it to a reasonable level.
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:00:23 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (posl)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Crankcase Oil Level

> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:04:19 -0500
> From: "Dale J. Jensen"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Oil Level on 6 cyl.
>
> [snipped]When I
> changed oil and filter, and added six quarts, the oil level was way
> over the full mark on
> the dipstick, which also says do not overfill. [snip] Is this common on
> Ford trucks with 6 cyl.?
> Dale

I have the exact same situation with my 85 351 since new, I've never
let it worry me and I've never had a problem with it either. Half quart
above(on the dipstick) on the engine won't hurt anything. After all it's a
FORD.
P.S. I always pre-fill the oil filter on oil changes to give the
engine a little break on first start up. Walt
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:03:20 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - REPAIR MANUAL 1994 F150

> From: Norman Maranda

> I'm looking for a repair manual for my 1994 ford f150 >4x4. I did a
> little research and came up with about 3 major types:
>
> 1) Helm's Manual for $90
> 2) Hayne's Manual for about $25
> 3) Chilton's Manual for about $25
>

Go for the Helm's, well worth it. It's complete, and it IS the Ford shop
manual. You might consider the CD Rom version if you want to spend the
duckies. JMHO

John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver " Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:09:57 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Crankcase Oil Level

> I have the exact same situation with my 85 351 since new, I've never
> let it worry me and I've never had a problem with it either. Half
> quart above(on the dipstick) on the engine won't hurt anything

Actually, if you check the =factory= service manuals, you'll see that
for many Ford engines, that slight "overfill" condition is normal when
doing aa complete oil change.

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:14:33 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - REPAIR MANUAL 1994 F150

> 'm looking for a repair manual for my 1994 ford f150 4x4. I did a
> little research and came up with about 3 major types:
>
> 1) Helm's Manual for $90
> 2) Hayne's Manual for about $25
> 3) Chilton's Manual for about $25

The factory manuals from Helm is the way to go. They are clearly
superior and contain information that you'll find nowhere else.

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:28
From: "Chad D. Cassetty"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale

I am parting with my 5.0HO, and I plan to build a carb'ed 351W for my
ride. The 302 has 34,000 miles on it.
The motor itself is complete with the exception of the distributor. I
have most of the accessories, as well, such as throttle body, MAF, power
steering, air cond., engine harness, factory headers. I am missing the
firewall harness, the EEC-IV computer, and the alternator. This motor is
squeaky clean. The crank has been turned 1/4 turn per week to prevent
the valve springs from getting weak. I'm asking $1200 for the motor.
Any takers?

Oh, it's in Bowling Green, KY, (Home of the Inaugural Mobil1 World Ford
Challenge)

;->

Chad Cassetty, CNA/CNE
Network Administrator
Holley Performance Products
P.O. Box 10360
1801 Russellville Rd
Bowling Green, KY 42102-7360

Phone (502) 782 2900
Fax (502) 745 9590

email: chadcassetty holley.com

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:05:32 -0400
From: Danny Metz
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale

Chad,

What year is the engine, and what trans was behind it?

Danny

At 11:28 AM 5/22/98, you wrote:
>I am parting with my 5.0HO, and I plan to build a carb'ed 351W for my
>ride. The 302 has 34,000 miles on it.
>The motor itself is complete with the exception of the distributor. I
>have most of the accessories, as well, such as throttle body, MAF, power
>steering, air cond., engine harness, factory headers. I am missing the
>firewall harness, the EEC-IV computer, and the alternator. This motor is
>squeaky clean. The crank has been turned 1/4 turn per week to prevent
>the valve springs from getting weak. I'm asking $1200 for the motor.
> Any takers?
>
>Oh, it's in Bowling Green, KY, (Home of the Inaugural Mobil1 World Ford
>Challenge)
>
>;->
>
>Chad Cassetty, CNA/CNE
>Network Administrator
>Holley Performance Products
>P.O. Box 10360
>1801 Russellville Rd
>Bowling Green, KY 42102-7360
>
>Phone (502) 782 2900
>Fax (502) 745 9590
>
>email: chadcassetty holley.com
>
>URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.holley.com
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:18 -0600
From: "Chad D. Cassetty"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale

It is an 89. It was used only as an occasional crusier, and was pulled
out for a stroker. It has been stored in a climate-controlled garage
(heated floors, even.) :-)

It had a T-5 behind it, but I no longer have the tranny.

Chad Cassetty, CNA/CNE
Network Administrator
Holley Performance Products
P.O. Box 10360
1801 Russellville Rd
Bowling Green, KY 42102-7360

Phone (502) 782 2900
Fax (502) 745 9590

email: chadcassetty holley.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Metz [SMTP:80-96-list ford-trucks.com]
Sent: Friday 1:05 PM
To: 80-96-list
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Motor for sale


Chad,

What year is the engine, and what trans was behind it?

Danny

At 11:28 AM 5/22/98, you wrote:
>I am parting with my 5.0HO, and I plan to build a carb'ed 351W for my
>ride. The 302 has 34,000 miles on it.
>The motor itself is complete with the exception of the distributor. I


>have most of the accessories, as well, such as throttle body, MAF, power


>steering, air cond., engine harness, factory headers. I am missing the


>firewall harness, the EEC-IV computer, and the alternator. This motor
is
>squeaky clean. The crank has been turned 1/4 turn per week to prevent


>the valve springs from getting weak. I'm asking $1200 for the motor.
> Any takers?
>
>Oh, it's in Bowling Green, KY, (Home of the Inaugural Mobil1 World Ford


>Challenge)
>
>;->
>
>Chad Cassetty, CNA/CNE
>Network Administrator
>Holley Performance Products
>P.O. Box 10360
>1801 Russellville Rd
>Bowling Green, KY 42102-7360
>
>Phone (502) 782 2900
>Fax (502) 745 9590
>
>email: chadcassetty holley.com
>
>URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.holley.com
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:32:22 -0500
From: David Anderson
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re; Oil Level on 6 Cyl.

I have what sounds like the same truck, year and everything, and the oil
capacity is 6 qts with filter. All I can think of is to compare the oil
pan size and shape with another 6 cylinder. Maybe somebody changed it.
I assume while changing the oil you would have seen if the pan was
crushed or something. Also see if you have the correct dipstick.

David
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:18:02 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Joe Escarre, read!

This message goes to "Joe Escarre".

Joe, you cannot post when your email address in your
mailer is set up as !!!

How do you expect me to respond to your queuries when
you aren't sending a valid email address to respond
to? Responses would just bounce. I'm using the list
as a last resort to track you down.

The reason your posts haven't been showing up is because
your address is not set correctly and I've trashed the
bounced postings because I cannot validate the sender.

Ken Payne, List Slave
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:37:51 EDT
From: FordboyDZ
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:Service Manuals

Norm,
I know $90 is a lot but you get what you pay for.
I'd go with the Helms. Chiltons is ok but don't
waste your money on Haynes ( Ha! Your Not
Especially Smart ) manuals. Any time it comes
to a complicated procedure they tell you to
take it to a dealer. That's not what people buy
manuals to see.
Hope this helps
Dave Zarnesky
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:51:45 EDT
From: BFunk33
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: installation process

In a message dated 98-05-22 06:01:43 EDT, you write:

> From: "Todd Johnston"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - installation process
>
> Hi everyone
> I was wondering if someone might be able to help me out with a
> couple of things. I know this one has been sort of addressed already but i
> didn't really get the answer i was after. The answer i did get was great,
> just
> not what i was looking for. I want to find out how to set up the second
> battery
> in an 88 Bronco XLT fullsize. I want to be seperate from the original
> battery.
> I want to run any future toys i install to one battery and then the
original
> running battery. This way i basically always have a back up if one dies.
> If anyone has done this set-up before i would greatly appreciate the input.
> Last thing my rear window does not come down. The key does not work and
> neither
> does the switch. I have checked the fuse panel it seems to be fine.
> Could the window motor be burnt out? Is there away to get it down manually
> without the key or the switch? Any information on these two topics would be
> very helpfull. You can send a response on the list or to me directly at:
> todd_johnston sony.ca
> Thanks in advance
> Todd
> Big Bronco Bustin

Installing a second battery for the use you want requires an isolator
(available in most larger auto parts stores) so that the batteries are charged
independantly of each other.
The actual physical installation is up to you.
Many people use a simple knife switch to keep the second battery seperate from
the vehicle's circuits; the switch is normally open. Close the switch, and it
connects to the vehicle's circuitry. Other than that, you can wire it direct
to your toys (using proper fuses, of course).
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