80-96-list-digest Thursday, May 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 180



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - weather striping
FTE 80-96 - transmission sounds
FTE 80-96 - K&N FIPK Installation, & Performance
[none]
RE: FTE 80-96 - weather striping
FTE 80-96 - Re: sliding rear window parts
FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk
FTE 80-96 - Re: RSW - Broken Latch
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: sliding rear window parts
FTE 80-96 - My Swaybar $.002
Re: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk
Re: FTE 80-96 - Floor shifter for F250
Re: FTE 80-96 - My Swaybar $.002
Re: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk
FTE 80-96 - rear window
FTE 80-96 - Noise when dropping into drive
FTE 80-96 - Energy Suspension Bushings
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Community Service Opportunity
FTE 80-96 - Ford Excursion
FTE 80-96 - GM junk
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: April archives

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 06:28:11 EDT
From: Batst bmw
Subject: FTE 80-96 - weather striping

Hi all my truck from AZ. is hear.
Question,the rubber around the outside of the windows in the doors to keep
water out is cracked and missing in some places.
Can you purchase this and replace it yourself?
Also the gasket around the rear window seems to have shrunk,can this also be
replaced yourself?
Thanks Blaine in KY.
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:54:38 EDT
From: WindWaiver
Subject: FTE 80-96 - transmission sounds

I have an 85 f250 2 wheel drive and i'm getting a constant whining from the
transmission. The trans does not slip or give any indication of problem as of
yet. Another question i have is the transmission has a large 64 stamped on
the top of the bell housing as well as small 64 in front of the pan. Any idea
what this might be.

windwaiver aol.com
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:34:18 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - K&N FIPK Installation, & Performance

I installed the K&N FIPK, PN 57-2503, last weekend
and the instructions call for an additional application
of K&N filter oil on top of the coat that it comes with.
(If you take it off-road)

After I ran the truck for 2 days I noticed a glob of oil
on the drive way. Right off I knew it was the K&N filter
oil running out of the filter. I over did it. I suggest anyone
doing this to just smear on the extra oil and not squirt
it on per the instructions.

I am pleased with the increase in performance.
I also noticed a significant increase in noise as
mentioned on the list many times. This is only
unpleasant (when wife says "Damm!, listen to
your truck") at full acceleration and under heavy
load. I am convinced that some of this noise is
somehow amplified by the high flow exhaust system.

Just one problem now.

Does anyone know the yellowline and redline
RPMs for this truck?

Scott
WHITE '95 F-150 XLT SC SB AUTO 5.8L
w/Tow, Off-road, All power, FIPK, Dual Cat-back,
31"x10.50 Tires and Raven Topper (seasonal)
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:57:43 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: [none]

Does anybody know of a place to get replacement parts for a sliding rear
window, or do you have to replace the entire window?

The Latch on my Slider has broken off.

Thanks!

Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box Style Side.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:42:29 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - weather striping

You can get this at J(unk) C(learinghouse) Whitney. (Good one Ryan) The
window channel pieces are about $20 and the scraper that goes along the
inside and outside bottom of the window is about $50. Its no problem to
install.

I am NOT a JC Whitney advocate; most of the items they sell take
advantage of the notable lack of taste of the general public. But there
are *some* items that would be very hard to find other places.

Sean Winters
82 Stepside
Soon to be sporting a Brahma bull on the side and a Star Trek horn from
JCW :^)

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Subject: FTE 80-96 - weather striping


Hi all my truck from AZ. is hear.
Question,the rubber around the outside of the windows in the doors to
keep
water out is cracked and missing in some places.
Can you purchase this and replace it yourself?
Also the gasket around the rear window seems to have shrunk,can this
also be
replaced yourself?
Thanks Blaine in KY.
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:33:16 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: sliding rear window parts

Keith Srb wrote:

> Does anybody know of a place to get replacement parts for a sliding rear
> window, or do you have to replace the entire window?

Keith do you know who made it? if so pass it on and I can look at the
wreckers and might as well search the WWW. Pleas pass all the pertinent
info: yr,model, etc etc.

P.S. does anyone own a mini-van ??? hehehehehehe

(inside joke from the Nats..)


John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver " Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:50:41 -0400
From: Glen
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk

I have a 96 F-350 4x4 351W 5spd. and I have been having some trouble
with a clunk when I am getting on and off the gas or when I hit a bump
just the right way while shifting gears. I took the truck in for a tsb
on the rear drive shaft but that didn't really help. The dealer tells me
it is a common noise with my type of transfer case. But I can't believe
that's true. Does anyone out there with a similar truck have this
trouble. I climbed under and checked the u-joints and they seem nice and
tight but if I hold the small end of the rear drive shaft and twist the
large end I hear a noise that is close to what I hear while driving.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Glen
96 F-350 4x4
77 F-250 4x4
Digest

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:57:10 -0700
From: Mark Ponsford
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: RSW - Broken Latch

>Does anybody know of a place to get replacement parts for a sliding rear
>window, or do you have to replace the entire window?
>
>The Latch on my Slider has broken off.
>
>Thanks!

Oh, oh.... I guess your going to have to get a fg canopy for your box ;-)

mark


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:58:52 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: sliding rear window parts

At 11:33 AM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Keith Srb wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know of a place to get replacement parts for a sliding rear
>> window, or do you have to replace the entire window?
>
>Keith do you know who made it? if so pass it on and I can look at the
>wreckers and might as well search the WWW. Pleas pass all the pertinent
>info: yr,model, etc etc.
>
>P.S. does anyone own a mini-van ??? hehehehehehe
>
>(inside joke from the Nats..)
>

Anyone have a buffing wheel and some polishing compound?

Just wondering, is there a market for perfect condition rear
window glass for a 67-72? I put a sliding window in mine and
the old glass has been sitting in the new window box ever
since.

Ken


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Date: Wed, 20 May 98 09:26:03 PDT
From: "Mike Mueller"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - My Swaybar $.002

Hey all, and Jon!
My background is in roadracing and handling of sportscars and not trucks =
but if was me, and my F-150, 2wd, shortbed didn't have a swaybar stock =
or any roadgoing truck for that matter, I would carefully drive down to =
the junkyard and pull off a set from a junker. The bar and the hardware =
don't wear out, just the bushings. Order a new set from anyone and there=
you are.
And yes, I would absolutley put one on, Both Ends!

BTW: I have had my '89 F-150 4x4, front and rear swaybars, supercab, long=
bed, campershell, 31x15's All Terrains, (with a student!), on an autocros=
s course at pretty good speed and it did ok. I know there is at least =
one list member who also has a porsche that knows what I'm talking about.=
"Scotty, take us to grin factor, Warp 9!"

>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:03:59 -0700
>From: Jon Berman
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars

I've got a 1994 F-150, 2wd, shortbed. Has anyone ever ADDED a front
and/or rear sway bar on these vehicles (as the stock truck doesn't come
with them)? According to Ford, they do not make an "add-on" sway bar
kit, you need to buy all the parts separately. Well, I talked with one
of the nicest Ford parts guys ever for about 20 minutes, and we looked
at all the parts required to assemble just the front sway bar. It
amounted to over $350 just for the parts (and there's lots of little
parts)!!

2) I use my vehicle for commuting to work, mostly through canyons. It
spends 100% of the time on the pavement. For this kind of money, are
sway bars really worth it??
Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:46:39 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk

> From: Glen
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk

>The dealer tells me
> it is a common noise with my type of transfer case.

Have you been the only driver of this truck? are you aware of any abuse of
the transfer case? The chain (transfer case)is subject to stretching when
abused or heavily used. I agree with you this is not normal, it is a
"backlash" type of situation, the area of slop must be determined and
brought into tolerance because wherever it is it is only acting as "hammer"
on the rest of the driveline upto and including the timing chain and gear
set.

>Does anyone out there with a similar truck have this
> trouble.

On my "babied" 96 F350 I have what I think is a little excessive clunk on
acceleration from a stop, any clunk is excessive I think, but I am looking
into it now. I'll keep you informed.

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:55:55 -0400
From: D Robertson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Floor shifter for F250

Dave :

Can you get to the leads of the switch and test it with an ohm meter ? If
it is a momentary they are using an electronic latch or a latching relay to
hold the O.D. in or out. I purchased the scehmatics (sp?) for my truck and
cars from Helm publishing 1-800-782-4356

Dave
86 F-150 4.9L & nightmare carb




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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:50:41 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - My Swaybar $.002

For auto-x swaybars are a required (if you dont want to slide off the course), I'm planning on running a hopped up Escort in the Teton Hillclimb (SCCA Pro-Solo 2), I would never consider
removing the swaybars on a scca car, then again I would never consider installing swaybars on
a desert/score off road truck... The swaybar issue boils down to what you plan on using the vehicle for..

Mike Mueller wrote:

> Hey all, and Jon!
> My background is in roadracing and handling of sportscars and not trucks but if was me, and my F-150, 2wd, shortbed didn't have a swaybar stock or any roadgoing truck for that matter, I would carefully drive down to the junkyard and pull off a set from a junker. The bar and the hardware don't wear out, just the bushings. Order a new set from anyone and there you are.
> And yes, I would absolutley put one on, Both Ends!
>
> BTW: I have had my '89 F-150 4x4, front and rear swaybars, supercab, longbed, campershell, 31x15's All Terrains, (with a student!), on an autocross course at pretty good speed and it did ok. I know there is at least one list member who also has a porsche that knows what I'm talking about. "Scotty, take us to grin factor, Warp 9!"
>
> >Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:03:59 -0700
> >From: Jon Berman
> >Subject: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars
>
> I've got a 1994 F-150, 2wd, shortbed. Has anyone ever ADDED a front
> and/or rear sway bar on these vehicles (as the stock truck doesn't come
> with them)? According to Ford, they do not make an "add-on" sway bar
> kit, you need to buy all the parts separately. Well, I talked with one
> of the nicest Ford parts guys ever for about 20 minutes, and we looked
> at all the parts required to assemble just the front sway bar. It
> amounted to over $350 just for the parts (and there's lots of little
> parts)!!
>
> 2) I use my vehicle for commuting to work, mostly through canyons. It
> spends 100% of the time on the pavement. For this kind of money, are
> sway bars really worth it??
> Thanks!
>
> Mike Mueller
> The Leasing Dept.
> Equipment Leasing and Funding
> www.leasingdept.com
>
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:54:42 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk

You said that while holding one end of the driveshaft solid and turning the
other end you could re-create the noise? Check the slipyoke on the driveline,
from the info you have given that is where the problem is... (trashed
slipyokes- the most overlooked part of the drivetrain..)

John Miller wrote:

> > From: Glen
> > Subject: FTE 80-96 - Driveline clunk
>
> >The dealer tells me
> > it is a common noise with my type of transfer case.
>
> Have you been the only driver of this truck? are you aware of any abuse of
> the transfer case? The chain (transfer case)is subject to stretching when
> abused or heavily used. I agree with you this is not normal, it is a
> "backlash" type of situation, the area of slop must be determined and
> brought into tolerance because wherever it is it is only acting as "hammer"
> on the rest of the driveline upto and including the timing chain and gear
> set.
>
> >Does anyone out there with a similar truck have this
> > trouble.
>
> On my "babied" 96 F350 I have what I think is a little excessive clunk on
> acceleration from a stop, any clunk is excessive I think, but I am looking
> into it now. I'll keep you informed.
>
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:26:54 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: FTE 80-96 - rear window

Anyone have a solid rear window they want to trade for a slider? Or
sellit to me?
Thanks
Chris
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:02:13 -0500
From: "SSG D"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Noise when dropping into drive

When I initially drop my transmission into drive or reverse, I
will hear a clanging noise as the transmission engages. What is
causing this and is there an easy fix?

I have a '92 Flare Side, 302, 5 Ltr.

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:29:21 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Energy Suspension Bushings

I checked out the site, had some good stuff on it. Anybody ever used them?
I think might get the bushings for the new rear leafs if they are worth it.
Should I get greasable front bushings for the front, or just the replacement
rubber chunks? I do get down there and grease the fittings every three or
four weeks, so they wouldn't jsut be sitting there dry.

Thanks
Casey

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:11:04 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Community Service Opportunity

At the Pigeon Forge show, some of us discussed the idea of becoming involved in community activities. Well, here is our first opportunity to show our stuff. Please see the email we received below.

Ken is going to send Ms. Edsall some information on the history of the Ford truck. Anyone else who would like to participate, please send your mail directly to her, but be sure to mention that you are a list member so she will know where the mail is coming from.
Thanks in advance for your time.

Peggy Payne
Coadministrator, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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>I am hoping that you can send us some information about Ford trucks that we
>could use. Anything that the children would find useful and interesting
>would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
>
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Troy Reifsnider
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford Excursion

This months Popular Mechanics has a short article and a small factory
picture (which hides many body panels).





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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Troy Reifsnider
Subject: FTE 80-96 - GM junk

I used to own a piece of GM "equipment." It was the biggest piece of
crap I have ever owned. It was an '84 Pontiac T1000. I bought it for
$50, both crank seals were leaking BAAAD. Body was in good shape,
interior fairly nice, BUUUTTT almost $1500 later in emissions sensors,
engine parts, and other things, I needed to get rid of it. Sold it to
somebody for $1250. I was glad to get rid of that piece of crap. Do
us all a favor and buy FORD.






==
Troy Reifsnider
Fordmantroy yahoo.com
1992 Ford Ranger reg. cab long box
XLT 4x4 2.9L 5 sp.


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