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80-96-list-digest Thursday, May 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 161 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 80-96 - RE; Carb Troubleshooting FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck FTE 80-96 - hard fiberglass tonneau for sale FTE 80-96 - second battery Re: FTE 80-96 - FW-15 coolant additive FTE 80-96 - RE: Front Diff. Identity Crisis Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Front Diff. Identity Crisis Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck FTE 80-96 - exhaust Re: FTE 80-96 - exhaust Re: FTE 80-96 - exhaust Re: FTE 80-96 - exhaust RE: FTE 80-96 - Engine Oil Re: FTE 80-96 - second battery Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 FTE 80-96 - Re: Re: Engine Change FTE 80-96 - Truck for sale Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck for sale Re: FTE 80-96 - sec. bat. installation inst. ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:28:30 -0700 From: "Bowman, John A" Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE; Carb Troubleshooting I had a similar problem with a '76 VW Rabbit carb and it turned out to be the linkage to the accelerator pump was incorrectly set. I do not know if your Holley has such a beast but it must in one form or another. Good luck. - -- ************************************* J.A. Bowman Customer Services Group Supervisor MT&T Circuit Provisioning Centre Rm221 3601 Joesph Howe Dr. Halifax, Nova Scotia B3L 4H8 PH: (902) 486-3848 FAX: (902) 423-4090 email: jbowman ************************************ = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 08:36:42 -0400 From: "Cade Pierce" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck >Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:41:07 -0700 >From: rockinghorse >Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-250 Farm Truck > >Scottie,something you may want to conside on the purchase of the truck >for your grandparents is a diesel engine.If you will be operating a >diesel tractor on the farm as well as the truck,you can save money on >the fuel costs by using the same lower taxed fuel in it that the tractor >uses.Not real sure what the price difference on the agricultural fuel is >vs. the over-the-road fuel is,but the tax that is in the cost of the per >gallon price is less.There may be a limit to how much road driving can >be done with the Ag. fuel,or the truck may have to be liscenced with >farm plates or something like that.Youwill have oodles of low-end torque >with the diesel,as well as comperable fuel economy.I have also heard >great things regarding the longevity of the diesel engine;a major >consideration when buying a used truck that will certainly be expected >to continue working hard on the farm.Good luck! Randy >94 Bronco EB85 F-250 4x4 I bought my '87 Diesel for that very reason several years ago...till that started with that highway/non-highway fuel SCAM. Please be very careful with using that died farm fuel in a road vehicle. (a truck). The fines can be rather high. Definitely look into the local laws that govern that to find out more before wandering to far from the farm w/ the colored fuel. Then again, if the truck never leaves the farm (or just goes to the local feed mill or the carryout down the road) you would be ok. Last year and the year before at the Farm Science Review in London, Oh, the highway patrol set up a check station as was catching guys for running the died fuel in their "farm use pickups." You know THAT went over well! Don't want to scare you off...just to let you know. I love my diesel F-250 4x4. - -Cade = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 08:48:00 -0400 From: Chris Hedemark Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck Cade Pierce wrote: > Last year and the year before at the Farm Science Review in London, Oh, the > highway patrol set up a check station as was catching guys for running the > died fuel in their "farm use pickups." You know THAT went over well! Don't > want to scare you off...just to let you know. I love my diesel F-250 4x4. I don't know for sure, because I am not a lawyer, but isn't that an illegal search? I mean, unless a cop has specific reason to think that YOU might be using illegal fuel, the most they can do in a random search is check in the cab within arm's reach of the driver, right? The fuel tank(s) are hardly within arm's reach. - -- Chris Hedemark - chris "From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!" = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 20:20 -0600 From: "Chad D. Cassetty" Subject: FTE 80-96 - hard fiberglass tonneau for sale It's the flush-fit style with the gas struts... it does have some damage, though. a hail storm broke the top layer of fiberglass in three small (golf-ball size) areas. Someone could easily fill the breaks and paint it. It's already black, and it fits short beds. I paid $475 new (shipping included), but I'll sell it $75 if you can pick it up. I'm in Bowling Green, KY, USA. Regards, Chad Cassetty = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 98 12:01:20 -0500 From: "Todd Johnston" Subject: FTE 80-96 - second battery Hi guys and gals Did everyone have a good weekend? I wanted to find out if anyone could tell me how to wire up the second battery from the drivers side. I have an 88 bronco with a 302 EFI and AOD. I have seen a number of postings regarding a double battery system but i haven't seen anything about how to install it. If anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated. e-mail me at: todd_johnston Todd 88 bronco bustin = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 09:41:15 -0700 From: Sheldon Belinkoff Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - FW-15 coolant additive > I recently reached 15K miles on my '97 Powerstroke, When I asked for a > bottle of FW-15 at a Ford dealership > I received a bottle of FW-16. This I was told replaced FW-15. Does > anyone know what changed / improved or was I given the wrong stuff? I made an inquiry about this and couldn't get a definitive answer. Is what you got packaged in a pint container? Maybe it's just a different size, or the package contains something else, like test strips. Please describe the paackage/contents. Thanks. - -- Sheldon Belinkoff belinkoff = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 10:05:51 -0700 From: Steve Faust Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Front Diff. Identity Crisis Randy wrote: > I have an 85 F-250 4x4... a GVWR of 8600 lbs > I'm trying to figure out the particulars... The > front differential tag is missing... should it be a > Dana 44HD or Dana 50... Randy, I just went through this exercise for my '88 F-250HD 4x4 Supercab, so I'll share with you the essence of what I learned that is applicable to your '85-- most of which by the way from great resources on this list. According to what I've been told, The transfer case on all over 8500# GVW F250s and all F350s was the BW 1356. (First used in 1984 on F250s and in 1980 F350s.). The Dana 44 IFS HD was used on F250s starting in 1984. The Dana 44 and 44 HD were discontinued on F250s after 1986. The TTB front drive axle in F250 HD applications from 1987-on (to 1997) is the Dana 50. Additionally I was told, that the Dana 44HD was used in F250s and F250HDs in standard cab trucks without heavy duty front suspension. Supercabs and trucks with the HD front suspension option got the Dana 50 (although I am not certain to which years this applied, my impression is that it is for '87 and newer HDs). The Dana 60 which was used in early 80s HDs was discontinued as a Ford HD rear axle after 1985. The rear axle in all F250 HDs and F350s from 1986-on (to 1997) is the Ford corporate 10.25" full floater axle. There was that confusing enough... So given all this it would seem that your HD truck should have a BW1356 transfercase, a Dana 44 IFS HD front axle, and a Dana 60 rear axle. I am sure that you will get some responses from other on this list, and someone will correct me if I've missed something. Steve Faust '88 F-250 = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 11:54:35 -0700 From: Robert Kennedy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Front Diff. Identity Crisis Whew! I'd say you covered it, Steve. Randy, you might try going to 4XFord web site, they list all the differentials, (and for guys like me they even have pictures). At 10:05 AM 5/7/98 -0700, you wrote: >Randy wrote: >> I have an 85 F-250 4x4... a GVWR of 8600 lbs >> I'm trying to figure out the particulars... The >> front differential tag is missing... should it be a >> Dana 44HD or Dana 50... > >Randy, I just went through this exercise for my '88 F-250HD 4x4 >Supercab, so I'll share with you the essence of what I learned that is >applicable to your '85-- most of which by the way from great resources >on this list. > >According to what I've been told, The transfer case on all over 8500# >GVW F250s and all F350s was the BW 1356. (First used in 1984 on F250s >and in 1980 F350s.). > >The Dana 44 IFS HD was used on F250s starting in 1984. The Dana 44 and >44 HD were discontinued on F250s after 1986. The TTB front drive axle in >F250 HD applications from 1987-on (to 1997) is the Dana 50. Additionally >I was told, that the Dana 44HD was used in F250s and F250HDs in standard >cab trucks without heavy duty front suspension. Supercabs and trucks >with the HD front suspension option got the Dana 50 (although I am not >certain to which years this applied, my impression is that it is for '87 >and newer HDs). > >The Dana 60 which was used in early 80s HDs was discontinued as a Ford >HD rear axle after 1985. The rear axle in all F250 HDs and F350s from >1986-on (to 1997) is the Ford corporate 10.25" full floater axle. > >There was that confusing enough... So given all this it would seem that >your HD truck should have a BW1356 transfercase, a Dana 44 IFS HD front >axle, and a Dana 60 rear axle. > >I am sure that you will get some responses from other on this list, and >someone will correct me if I've missed something. > >Steve Faust > '88 F-250 > >= Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== >Send posts to: 80-96-list >Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo >"unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. >======================================================================= > = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:01:10 -0400 From: "David Butts" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck Opps. I must have left the key to my gascap at home! - -----Original Message----- From: Cade Pierce To: 80-96-list Date: Thursday, May 07, 1998 8:38 AM Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: F-250 Farm Truck >>Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 22:41:07 -0700 >>From: rockinghorse >>Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-250 Farm Truck >> >>Scottie,something you may want to conside on the purchase of the truck >>for your grandparents is a diesel engine.If you will be operating a >>diesel tractor on the farm as well as the truck,you can save money on >>the fuel costs by using the same lower taxed fuel in it that the tractor >>uses.Not real sure what the price difference on the agricultural fuel is >>vs. the over-the-road fuel is,but the tax that is in the cost of the per >>gallon price is less.There may be a limit to how much road driving can >>be done with the Ag. fuel,or the truck may have to be liscenced with >>farm plates or something like that.Youwill have oodles of low-end torque >>with the diesel,as well as comperable fuel economy.I have also heard >>great things regarding the longevity of the diesel engine;a major >>consideration when buying a used truck that will certainly be expected >>to continue working hard on the farm.Good luck! Randy >>94 Bronco EB85 F-250 4x4 > > >I bought my '87 Diesel for that very reason several years ago...till that >started with that highway/non-highway fuel SCAM. Please be very careful >with using that died farm fuel in a road vehicle. (a truck). The fines can >be rather high. Definitely look into the local laws that govern that to >find out more before wandering to far from the farm w/ the colored fuel. >Then again, if the truck never leaves the farm (or just goes to the local >feed mill or the carryout down the road) you would be ok. > >Last year and the year before at the Farm Science Review in London, Oh, the >highway patrol set up a check station as was catching guys for running the >died fuel in their "farm use pickups." You know THAT went over well! Don't >want to scare you off...just to let you know. I love my diesel F-250 4x4. > >-Cade > > >= Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== >Send posts to: 80-96-list >Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo >"unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. >======================================================================= = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:04:35 EDT From: Batst bmw Subject: FTE 80-96 - exhaust What do you think about Dynomax mufflers? My truck has a 400 in it,and has glass-pak mufflers. What are the down side to them. Cost is a real concern since it is dual exhaust, but i really want a good sound. Thanks for your help, Blaine in KY. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:17:15 -0400 From: Chris Hedemark Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - exhaust Batst bmw wrote: > What do you think about Dynomax mufflers? Junk. I bought a Dynomax dual exhaust kit for my 1995 Dodge Ram V10 4x4 (also junk... now someone else's problem). The kit was missing key parts, and the fit wasn't right. The sound was quieter than stock, and there was no improvement in performance whatsoever. > My truck has a 400 in it,and has glass-pak mufflers. > What are the down side to them. Cost is a real concern since it is dual > exhaust, > but i really want a good sound. Flowmaster 3 chamber has a nice rumbly sound without the loud volume like the glasspacks. If you like it loud, get MAC FLowpath mufflers. They are loud like Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers but without the loud drone on the highway. Borlas are nice but you mention cost as a major concern so forget them. - -- Chris Hedemark - chris "From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!" = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 14:30:09 -0600 From: David McDonald Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - exhaust Chris Hedemark wrote: > > Batst bmw wrote: > > > What do you think about Dynomax mufflers? > > Junk. > > Flowmaster 3 chamber has a nice rumbly sound without the loud volume > like the glasspacks. If you like it loud, get MAC FLowpath mufflers. > They are loud like Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers but without the loud > drone on the highway. > > Borlas are nice but you mention cost as a major concern so forget them. > > -- > > Chris Hedemark - chris > "From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!" Try lookin at Gibson too... I've got one on my '90F250HD/351 it sounds great. Nice and quiet at idle and smooth runnin, but when you floor it, boy do the decibles rise! I Liked it cuz when I held it up, I saw a 3"hole goin straight thru it, with baffles on the side. That's low restriction :) Dave = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:54:34 -0400 From: Chris Hedemark Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - exhaust David McDonald wrote: > Try lookin at Gibson too... I've got one on my '90F250HD/351 it sounds > great. Nice and quiet at idle and smooth runnin, but when you floor it, > boy do the decibles rise! I Liked it cuz when I held it up, I saw a > 3"hole goin straight thru it, with baffles on the side. That's low > restriction :) Dave, I've seen/heard Gibson on other trucks but never had one myself. Maybe the 87 F250 will be the first with such a kit. :-) Yes, I agree, it's a great balance of quiet manners when you need it and ornery growling when you WANT it. :-) - -- Chris Hedemark - chris "From the fury of the Norsemen, oh Lord, deliver us!" = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:05:08 -0400 From: "Chad Royse" Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Engine Oil I only bring this up because of the synthetic question but, I put synthetic in a 2.2 Sundance, I used to own, at 10k miles. It developed a few small leaks. Nothing you could notice between oil changes. I was told by a couple of people that if was to switch back to regular oil after using the synthetic, it would shrink certain gaskets and seals and become a real mess. Also, if any of you ever owned a Chrysler 2.2 or 2.5 four cylinder, you know that # 3 wrist pin knock it gets usually between 50 and 70k miles? Well I know the current owner of my old Sundance and at 95k miles, it's still perfectly quiet. Chad - -----Original Message----- From: owner-80-96-list [mailto:owner-80-96-list Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 10:08 PM To: 80-96-list Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Oil Hey Casey, I live in Fairbanks too, and I use Mobil 1 Synthetic. It has always done me good. Easy starting down to 30 below without being plugged in. It was on an I-6 though. I'm going to start using this on my Bronco, which I just got. It has a 351W. I have heard that adding a Synthetic to a motor that ran regular oil before, can cause a motor leak oil afterwards. Maybe some other members of the list can shed light on this subject. Joshua Dronkers Fairbanks Alaska University Fire Dept. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 14:51:57 -0700 From: Mark Ponsford Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - second battery >Hi guys and gals > Did everyone have a good weekend? I wanted to find out if >anyone could tell me how to wire up the second battery from the drivers side. >I have an 88 bronco with a 302 EFI and AOD. I have seen a number of postings >regarding a double battery system but i haven't seen anything about how to >install it. If anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated. >e-mail me at: >todd_johnston > Is this a factory option? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Ponsford Phone: (250) 721-7397 Email: mponsfor = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 17:54:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tristan McCann Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 - ---Chris Hedemark wrote: > > Curious: Why the 92-up requirement? Mechanically an 87-up should be > just about the same truck. The 92 is just a little different > sheet-metal wise. I have an 87 that looks almost identical under the > hood to a 94. That said, you can get an 87-ish truck for MUCH cheaper, > partially because they weren't very pretty trucks (shaped roughly like a > brick with about as many curves). > Heyhey, don't say that...I think the 87 truck is about the nicest looking truck, if it's in good condition. I have an fire-engine red F-150 4x4 5.0 liter and the body is the nicest I've seen in a while. == Tristan McCann York, Maine, USA _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 20:40:36 -0500 From: Sven Setterdahl Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Re: Engine Change > >'81 F-100 4x4 300 I-6 > > Yo Dom: > > Are you sure you don't have an F150? According to my sources, the F100 was > not available w/ a 4x4 drivetrain after sometime in the mid-to-late 70s. > > If you have an '81 F150, it should have been available with either a 302 or > a 351M V8, as well as the 300 I6. The F100 was only available w/ the 302 > V8 or the I6. > > If you want the torque for towing, you can't beat the 351M (except w/ a 400 > or 460, which weren't available in the F150). OTOH, the 302/5.0 would be a > drop-in replacement for the I6. Motor mounts and bell housing match. The > 351M would require a different bell housing, a bigger radiator, and perhaps > a few other mods. At least the 351M was a factory option, so it shouldn't > be hard to find the parts you need in the bone yards. > > Good luck. > > Dave R. (M-block devotee) > My info, Standard Catalog of American Light-Duty Trucks, show the '80 F100 did have available 4x4. The 351 was available in '80 but not in the F100. I don't know how picky they are on that. Sven > > > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Oil > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Dronkers > > Joshua Dronkers says: > >I have heard that adding a Synthetic to a motor that ran regular oil > before, > >can cause a motor leak oil afterwards. Maybe some other members of the list > can shed light on this subject. > > I've heard that this is because the synthetic cleans all the old deposits > and gunk out and some of the gaskets may start to leak. I personally started > using Mobil 1 at 73k mi along with Redline in the tranny and diffs and have > no leaks of any kind at 104k. > > mike miller > A guy I know had a 350 for an off breed truck that would burn/leak a little regular oil. The kid he sold the truck to switched to synthetic and the truck actually stopped using oil. Go figure. Sven = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 19:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: rotaryride Subject: FTE 80-96 - Truck for sale I am selling a 1993 F-150 4X4, XL trim, alloy wheels, sliding rear glass. This truck is VERY clean! 82,000 miles. I am asking $9,000.00 OBO I have had it adverstised in several papers for about two weeks now and have had only two calls! Is there just not much interest in this type truck? I would have thought there would be more interest in a good clean, un-abused 4X4. Any ideas would be appreciated! Eric Johsnon = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 19:26:02 -0700 From: Robert Kennedy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Truck for sale Go to www.edmunds.com to check out the price you are asking for your truck. It has a lot of useful info about used vehicle buying/selling. Bob At 07:13 PM 5/7/98 -0700, you wrote: >I am selling a 1993 F-150 4X4, XL trim, alloy wheels, sliding rear glass. >This truck is VERY clean! 82,000 miles. I am asking $9,000.00 OBO > >I have had it adverstised in several papers for about two weeks now and have >had only two calls! Is there just not much interest in this type truck? I >would have thought there would be more interest in a good clean, un-abused >4X4. Any ideas would be appreciated! > >Eric Johsnon > >= Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== >Send posts to: 80-96-list >Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo >"unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. >======================================================================= > = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 80-96-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 23:21:30 -0700 From: Randy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - sec. bat. installation inst. Todd, Assuming this is a FS Bronco, I can help. I have a plow on my '87 F-250HD 4x4 351HO and installed dual batteries. Now, there are two ways to do this, my way or the right way....hehe. Just kidding, my way works just fine. I used 1.25 x 1.25 (can't remember for sure, in fact all the dims to follow will be appx. from memory...or lack thereof) angle iron to fabricate a bracket. On the drivers' side between (or just behind) the headlight and the radiator are two vertical columns on the core support. Cut a piece to mount horizontally between these two, maybe 8" long. You will have to cut two other unequal length brackets to run perpendicular to the first that reach back to the inner wheel well. Once you look, you will see that the shape of the well calls for the bracket closest to the radiator to be about 6" longer then the one closest to the fender so that both can reach. You will have to hold one of the longer brackets and level it in order to know how far down the core support to mount the first small bracket and then make sure it is level. I used s/s bolts all around to help avoid corrosion. I mounted the angle iron flat side up and the 90 deg side on the outside going down on all three. My longest leg didn't match up w/the fender well when done so I had to make a spacer from small dia. pipe, but no biggie. I installed the front bracket first, then the two longer ones, but I suppose you could assemble all three and then drop in as one unit. I bought a $3 plastic battery tray at Auto Zone and mounted it on top of my new brackets. Two 'J'-bolts and a plastic bracket on top and my new battery wasn't going anywhere. Now for the wiring and this is where you can go two different ways. Depending on your use you can wire in an isolator. I didn't and mine works just fine, but the downside here is if you leave the lights on or whatever and BOTH go dead, you're screwed. One other downfall is that the system will only be as good as the WEAKEST battery. Some on here took issue w/this last time I posted it, but the best example I can think of is a flashlight (yes, I know they are in serial, not parallel), but if you've ever put a used battery and a new on in a flashlight, you know it's not as good as it can be w/two new ones. Now that being said, you'll have to get help elsewhere on how to wire the isolator, but I know you can buy the entire kit wires and all at the auto parts store. Without isolator just run the positive on the new battery to the current battery's positive and run the new ground to a new solid location. I used a self-tapping screw into the inner fender wall for my ground. That's it!! One caution here is DO NOT run the batteries in serial (positive on one to neg on other and back).... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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