80-96-list-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 158



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: '90 rear fuel tank
FTE 80-96 - RE: Re: Vin / Door Label Decoding
FTE 80-96 - RE: Overdrive add on for C6?
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Digest info
FTE 80-96 - Engine Change
[none]
FTE 80-96 - Re: antifreeze leak
FTE 80-96 - Introduction
FTE 80-96 - LOUD fuel pump
FTE 80-96 - Re: Antifreeze , new suggestion
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Change
Re: FTE 80-96 - LOUD fuel pump

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 09:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Randall Wer
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: '90 rear fuel tank

I used to have a 1990 F-150 4x4 with dual tanks that had the exact same
problem with the front tank. It was the in-tank fuel pump. I think it
cost about $260.

Randy Werth
1990 F-250 4x4

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 11:44:41 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Re: Vin / Door Label Decoding

Hey Guys -- Just a Public Thanks for all the help!! It's nice to know
there is somewhere to get some straight answers from others who have
also 'been there, tried that'. I think I finally have handle on what I'm
driving around on -- now comes the tweak-it, change-it, modify-it, fun
part. Let the tinkering begin, phase one: new suspension.

Steve ~ '88 F-250


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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:23:45 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Overdrive add on for C6?

Cade wrote:

> I've got an 87 F-250 6.9l Banks turbo 4x4 w/C6 auto. Does nice
job...but the mileage could be
> better even w/ the 3.55's. I've been looking all over the net today
for overdrive units to add to it.=20

> Your extra info is greatly desired since I think the products I found
may not be the ones for this truck...=20

Check out Gear Vendors they are the industry leader in over/under drive
units for RVs and trucks, they've won many industry awards for best and
innovative designs and applications. A bit on the spendy side but I
believe worth the cost, especially given the alternatives. Here are a
couple of sites to reference: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.gearvendors.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ericsrv.com/Gear%20Vendors.htm (an RV site that lists the
full GV application list). Adding this unit effectively give you 6
speeds instead of 3 thus smoothing out the typically hard shifts of the
C-6 as if bridges the gaps between gears. The unit can also be turned
off and on depending on the driving situation.

Gear Vendors
1717 N. Magnolia Ave., El Cajon, CA 92020
(800) 999-9555 =A0 =A0(619) 562-0062=20

I am planning on adding their unit to my Truck ('88 F-250 4x4 Supercab,
7.3 ltr. Diesel w/ C-6 tranny and 4:10 gears) as soon as I save up few
$, hopefully with in the next couple of months.

I'd also love to hear from anyone who might have any experience with =
the
GV product in a 4x4 application.

Steve ~ '88 F-250
> =20
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:47:52 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Digest info

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:47:22 EDT
From: Dom379
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engine Change

I am toying with the idea of changing my engine to a V8. right now I have a
fairly new 300 I-6 that is in dire need of a valve job, and a new carb. I use
the truck mostly for a daily drive, no hauling of major loads, but I do pull a
trailer sometimes. And I would like to have a motor witht he power to pass on
the highway. My truck is modified with a lift, 35" tires, and 3.50 rear end.
My questions are....

Would your reccomend leaveing the 6 and just fixing it up? If so are there any
after market parts worth putting on?

If I was to go with a V8 which one?

Biggest problem is that is has to be California Smog legal. (so must be
orionally available on the truck at time of sale.)

thanks
Dom
'81 F-100 4x4 300 I-6
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:57:51 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: [none]

Oh, I just meant to undo the case from behind the dash and look at the core
w/o moving or undoing the hoses, but looking closer, there is a nice bead of
something black like silicon around the edge. If I take it off, what should
I use to reseal with? I will try that suggestion of looking for the vents
being full of fluid first though.

Thanks
Casey

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah, I got sticker shock on a tool this weekend, too. I'm not sure
what year/model we are talking about and I am not a heater expert, but
it has been my experience that most heaters come out from the passenger
compartment. Rangers and some mid 80's full size are real easy, take
out the glove box and a plate and they are right there. Earier model
full size are, well lets just say that Ford started with a heater core
and built a pickup around it. On some models, the A/C evaporator needs
removed for access. You might look around the bottom of the firewall
passenger side for a rubber vent/drain tube to see if coolant is in it.
This would be on the outside of the floor boards where it might drip on
the tranny. If so, it probably is a heater. Cost is model specific,
but I would think less than $50 for an after market core. Probably more
from Ford.
Good Luck,
Buck Shoff

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 16:12:05 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: antifreeze leak

Humm, that inspection plate has a quarter inch gap for 12 inches or so along
the bottom. (Also, this is one solid piece, there is no way to take off a
small portion like an inspection plate without dropping the tranny.)There is
one hole in the plate (like a bolt hole) but nothing on the bellhousing
itself behind it. Is there a block or something that is supposed to be
bolted the plate, but not the bellhousing? As it is no antifreeze would
accumalte in there, it would drip right on out. I misunderstood about the
core being inside, but I will tear into it tomorrow after work and see what
I find.

P.s. This is a word of caution to you all , first hand :( With our early
90's ford, 460, the heater core was leaking and my dad never noticed it, it
appeared to be leaking out of the radiator itself, but that was only one
hole. He plows with it all winter and then in January two years ago, he got
REAL sick, had to be medivacced to Seattle. The cause was the fumes of the
antifreeze from the core getting burned on a hot surface he was inhaling all
morning long, all winter. He was in the hospital for 2 1/2 weeks and lost
big patches of hair. So thats why I want to figure this out.

Thanks, long post sorry....
Casey
>>>>>The other post you mentioned seeing the anti-freeze on the aluminum
inspection plate that bolts to the front bottom portion of the transmission
bell housing. If you remove this plate you may see an accumulation of
anti-freeze at the bottom of the bell housing. This has told me (66
Fairlane 390 V-8), that a freeze plug on the back of the engine was
leaking. Pain in the butt drop the C-6 time.

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:11:43 -0700
From: "Gerald L. Hinkle Jr. CPA"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Introduction

I have been a subscriber for some time now and enjoy the give and take. I
felt it was time to intoduce myself and my dream truck. I recently
purchased a truck from a client of mine who rarely used it after custom
ordering it years ago. My truck is a 1994 F-350 super duty, Crew Cab, 4x4
with a 351 V8 and Automatic Tranny. This monobeam monster is my dream
truck. While several years old, I bot this truck last September with an
odomoter reading of only 14,500 miles! This truck is so long that the
owners never drove it for fear of parking! There was a birds nest in the
drivers front wheel well! Riding high in Yuma, AZ ...Junior

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:53:15 -0500
From: Danny
Subject: FTE 80-96 - LOUD fuel pump

>Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 22:12:51 -0500
>To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
>From: Danny
>Subject: LOUD fuel pump
>In-Reply-To:
>
>I had the same problem on my 92 F150 5.0 .
>I had both pumps replaced at 30,000 under warranty . That was 30,000 ago .
>Now both ones are noisey again . I have never noticed any performance
problems with it but my maintance book tells you not to run the tanks dry .
>I am going to run these pumps till they quit or something shows some type
of problem.
>
>
>>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:40:11 -0400
>>From: ric_bergstrom juno.com (Richard L. Bergstrom)
>>Subject: LOUD fuel pump
>>
>>I have a 92 f150 with 6cyl. fuel pump has gotten annoyingly loud.
>

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:58:44 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Antifreeze , new suggestion

I was thinking, (first time for everything!!) since I can't find any pooled
up antifreeze yet, what if I take the two hoses into the core and simply put
a splice into it so they bypass the core completely, and see if the leaking
stops? I don't use the heater, (unless I can fix it of course) so I
wouldn't miss it. Any pros/cons to this?

Thanks
Casey Vandor

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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:33:32 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine Change

Dom379 wrote:

> I am toying with the idea of changing my engine to a V8. right now I have a
> fairly new 300 I-6 that is in dire need of a valve job, and a new carb. I use
> the truck mostly for a daily drive, no hauling of major loads, but I do pull a
> trailer sometimes. And I would like to have a motor witht he power to pass on
> the highway. My truck is modified with a lift, 35" tires, and 3.50 rear end.

Dom,
This is gonna be my $0.02. I really admire you for wanting to fix up the
300-I6, like I have in my bronco. I really like the low-end torque for
off-roading, but I really think, if you want the power you are talking about
for the highway, then you will have to (dare I say it) step-up in engines.
Ecspecially for the 35" tires. I hope I am wrong and there are mods,
and if there are I really would like to know about them myself.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 16:26:23 EDT
From: JSCF250
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - LOUD fuel pump

hey, if you are replacing that loud fuel pump, make sure its a ford part.the
aftermarket ones make noise after a while. learned from my mistake on my gran
marquis
joe
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