80-96-list-digest Friday, September 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 320



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: New: Have Tranny Question
Re: FTE 80-96 - Check Engine Light and Tranny
FTE 80-96 - FTE in Print!
FTE 80-96 - re-80-96 Dual Exhaust on 95 F150
FTE 80-96 - Fuel system problem
FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Air Conditioning Conversion to R134a
FTE 80-96 - E4OD
FTE 80-96 - CA Get Together.
FTE 80-96 - 86 f250,460, fuel pump/gauge problem
FTE 80-96 - Re: camshafts and intake vacuum, also brakes
Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE in Print!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride
FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injectors
FTE 80-96 - Questions on F250
Re: FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:44:37 -0500
From: Daniel Maxwell
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: New: Have Tranny Question


I had this done at the local quickie lube. They had a machine with a fluid
resevour. Hooked up to the collant lines, started the truck and pumped out
the old and filled with new, never ran dry. Cost was about $60.00, plus the
filter change, which I gave them, (a Fram, didn't like their brand)



>>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:15:47 -0700
>>From: mparrott thomas.com (Michael Parrott)
>>Subject: FTE 80-96 - New: Have Tranny Question
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I am new to this list, so pardon if this question has been answered
already.
>>I have a 89' Clubwagon with the C6 3speed tranny. My question is, how
>>difficult is it to drain the torque converter, and with everything drained
>>what is the correct amount of fluid to put back in?? The two manuals I
have,
>>seam to contradict each other. Thanks in advance..
>>
>>Mike Parrott
>>
>


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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:57:45 -0600 (MDT)
From: Miller Ryan
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Check Engine Light and Tranny

stop send mail to this address!!!!!! Tell everyone else.... NO MORE!

################### Hello, I'm Ryan Miller ###############################

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:53:52 -0700
From: "Callahan, Gary"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FTE in Print!

I seem to remember hearing recently that FTE was showcased in a
trucking magazine. Does anyone remember which magazine and issue?

Gary Callahan
'81 F-150 Custom 4x4
with a 300cid I-6 and 4-Speed


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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:19:35 -0500
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - re-80-96 Dual Exhaust on 95 F150

I did what you are asking on my 90 351 F-250. I removed the cat put a dual
set on, with a st of easy flowing mufflers. It sounds great but it removed a
bit too much of of the backpressure on the engine. Back pressure helps the
low end, so I have to give it a bit more gas in second, and doing 55-60 it
feels like the rpm's are a bit low. The exhaust shop ordered the tail pipes
and all was good for a couple of years, but this summer I was pulling a boat
and had my camper on into a head wind. I couldent get out of third and the
left tail pipe got hot enough to melt a groove in the spair tire.
If I had to do over again I would leave the cat on and go from there
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
82 LTD II
50 F-1 (some assembly required)

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:24:12 -0500
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel system problem

Dad went through a similar prob in his '90. The fuel pump in the tank was
bad. The cost for the part is about $200. As the pump uses fuel to cool and
lubricate itself, running the tank empty isn't suggested. ( I do it too!)
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
82 LTD II
50 F-1 (some assembly required)

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:31:54 -0500
From: "Stephen W. Hansen"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride

Just did a brake job on a econline, my friend was complaining about shimming
when stopping. Took it out for a test drive, first thing noticed steering
wheel off center, brakes felt fair. Jacked it up and discovered the tie rod
end shot. (the ford shop missed it when he had them do a inspection on it)
Replaced it, rebuilt the front brakes. He drove it and was impressed with
the difference. I sent him to a alighnment shop, and he thinks I am the
automotive repair god.
I don't know what the effect of the deisel weight has on the f-end but get
everything checked
Stephen Hansen
92 F250
82 LTD II
50 F-1 (some assembly required)

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:29:37 -0500
From: Ron Madurski
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: Air Conditioning Conversion to R134a

I know it's a little late to be replying to this but I had mine
converted to 134A and it works great. I live in Tulsa and I had it done
in the midst of some 100+ days. I have to turn it down and I have a
SuperCab. Get all of your parts from a salvage yard and make sure the
guy doing it knows what he is doing. If the conversion is not done
properly (134A is very sensitive to pressure variances) it will not cool
as well as it should.

Total bill for my conversion was about $300 parts/labor. I did all of
the parts hunting and parts installation. My mechanic did the
conversion and charging.

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From: dhollingworth juno.com [mailto:dhollingworth juno.com]
Sent: Monday, August 03, 1998 8:03 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Air Conditioning Conversion to R134a


I have a 1984 Ford Bronco and need to have the A/C fixed. It has leaked
for several years and this year it completely lost it's charge. I
brought it to a reputable auto a/c repair shop and they said they the
compressor was shot (after 200,000 miles) and it also needed the
accumulator/drier replaced and a new orifice tube. Then they would
flush
the system and recharge with R-134a. Unfortunately the price tag for
all
this was pretty steep - $790. So I wanted to check out all the options
before I went ahead and had this done.

1) Has anyone out there had their A/C converted to R-134a? How well
did
it cool after the conversion?

2) Does anyone know what the official Ford recommendation it for this?
Is there a TSB out there to look at? Did any of the later Broncos come
with R134a?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Dave
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:23:18 -0500
From: "Scott J. Mitchell"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - E4OD

>>Howdy,
>>
>>I'm new to the list and need some info.. I have a '92 F250 Supercab 4X4
>>with a 460 and the E4OD with aprox. 85k miles. I have had intermittant
>>hard-shifting problems when the trans. is warm since it turned 50k. It
>>seems to be o.k. after a fluid and filter change, but then gets this
>problem
>>about 6 months to a year after that. 85% of the miles have been highway
>and
>>I have not done a lot of heavy towing. Any history with this and what's
>the
>>fix??
>>
>>Thanks a bunch-
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>
>

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:45:46 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: FTE 80-96 - CA Get Together.

Greetings List Members,

This is a long overdue reminder of the Planned Get Together at Disney Land
in CA. The Get together was planned for October 3rd and 4th. A place and
time to meet has not been picked yet.

I was planning on attending this get together, until my place of employment
changed my plans with out asking me. Another words, I now have to work
that weekend and won't be able to make it.

For those of you planning to go, you might want to talk among yourselves
and try and pick a location and time to meet.

I apologize for not sending this reminder sooner.

Thanks
Keith Srb
herbie ford-trucks.com

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:19:15 EDT
From: Kbeverwein aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 86 f250,460, fuel pump/gauge problem

I have a 86 f250 with a 460 non-catylis truck was built 9/85. Ford shop not
able to give me a straight answer on why the front fuel gauge only reads 1/4
fuel when full. Rear tank shows full but isnt pumping fuel. Suspect bad in
tank pump. Have new pump in the front tank. Truck has also left me stranded,
I just bought it a couple of weeks ago. I rebuilt the holly 4-barrel, double
pumper, it is a ford carb. I don't know if the switch over switch is bad or
maybe the 6 port switch over valve is.
There is a junction block on the firewall that has two wires connected to it
and goes
into the wiring harness. Fuel gauge works when I put a hot wire to it. Do
you know
what the switch is called and if there is suppose to be another wire on it.
Is there somewhere on the net that I can get a wire diagram for same vehicle.

appreciate the help,
brian
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:10:32 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: camshafts and intake vacuum, also brakes

Mike yelps:

>Help! I had my 1992 F-150 5.0L engine rebuilt. I told the engine shop
>that I would like more low end torque, as I use this vehicle to pull a
>good size horse trailer. They installed a Ford Motorsoport cam used
>for
>RV's. Now I have an intake vacuum of 15", as opposed to the 20" that
>the
>computer seems to need to operate the engine correctly. Does anyone
>know
>if installing this type of cam would actually have this effect on the
>vacuum? All sensors on the motor show good readings. If the MAP sensor
>is fooled into thinking there is 20" of vacuum then the engine runs
>better. The symptoms associated with this low vacuum problem are: no
>power, and stalls when left idle, and stalls immediatly when put in
>drive or reverse. Any insight into this situation would be greatly
>appreciated.Thanks Mike W

A rowdier cam will have a definate effect on your vacuum. This is
not necessarily fatal on a carburated motor, but it can really confuse
your EEC-IV computer. This is why I have not cammed up my 300. Still,
there is a fix: convert to Mass Air metering. The Mass Air kit (from
Motorsport SVO) includes a new computer and is MUCH more tolerant of
performance mods. You're in luck: they make one for 5.0 trucks. I pull
horses too with my '94 F150 (300ci) so I know where you're coming from.
(C'mon, baby, PULL...)

BTW, my rear brakes also lock up when they've been sitting out in
damp weather. Antilock brakes my $$! Does FoMoCo know about this?
Somebody's gonna get hurt because of this one.

lordjanusz juno.com

"The beatings will continue until morale improves..."

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:42:33 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - FTE in Print!

Gary, I believe there is a list on the FTE homepage if I remember
right, I'm just too lazy to check for you right now, sorry. :)

Later,
Randy (Brew)

Callahan, Gary wrote:
>
> I seem to remember hearing recently that FTE was showcased in a
> trucking magazine. Does anyone remember which magazine and issue?
>
> Gary Callahan
> '81 F-150 Custom 4x4
> with a 300cid I-6 and 4-Speed
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:45:21 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride

Don't you love fooling your friends into thinking that!! It's NOT
against my programming to impersonate a diety... :)
I had my '87 tie rod ends go bad (both) and man I thought I was
driving a new truck since before it would shake the fillings out of my
teeth under hard braking.

Later,
Randy (Brew)

Stephen W. Hansen wrote:
>
> Just did a brake job on a econline, my friend was complaining about shimming
> when stopping. Took it out for a test drive, first thing noticed steering
> wheel off center, brakes felt fair. Jacked it up and discovered the tie rod
> end shot. (the ford shop missed it when he had them do a inspection on it)
> Replaced it, rebuilt the front brakes. He drove it and was impressed with
> the difference. I sent him to a alighnment shop, and he thinks I am the
> automotive repair god.
> I don't know what the effect of the deisel weight has on the f-end but get
> everything checked
> Stephen Hansen
> 92 F250
> 82 LTD II
> 50 F-1 (some assembly required)
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:22:48 -0700
From: mparrott thomas.com (Michael Parrott)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel Injectors

I am just curious as to how many others may of had injectors go bad. I currently have my 89' Club Wagon at the Dealer trying to diagnose why I am going through catylitic converters every 50,000 miles. This being the 3rd time into the dealer, they have found that three of the eight injectors are bad. The van just did pass smog about 8 months ago with no problem. Has anyone else had such problems with cat converters and injectors? BTW- the van is an e-350 with the 351 and 180,000 original miles(motor & trans)

Mike P
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:04:48 -0700
From: "Craig Rubin"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Questions on F250

Hi all,

I'm a new subscriber to the list and I have a few questions on my truck. I
have recently purchased a F250, s/c, diesel 4x4 with automatic, and the
questions are:

Fuel gauges - when both tanks read empty, it only takes ~9-10 gallons to
fill up each tank. What gives?
Leaky floats?

Mileage - what should the mileage be in town and highway?

Front bench seat - I would like to have head rests. Has anyone
converted existing to headrests? What
are the options? Not adverse to putting in later model bench seat with
rests or even bucket seats.

Rear bench seat - has anyone put in headrests in the rear or crafted
them?

Instrument panel lights - how hard is it to replace the instrument
lights?

Headliner - coming down, can it be reattached or needs to be replaced?

Tires - two of the 235 85 16s are badly worn and will need to be
replaced soon. Will be used to tow and
launch a 18' boat and as a third auto. Suggestions for good wet
traction?

Thats it for now.

Thanks in advance,

Craig Rubin
crubin foxinternet.net
Redmond, Washington
85 F250
63 Ranchero
97 Japanese auto

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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:08:13 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride

Dang, its been a long time since I've heard a good Star Wars quote (I know,
it was in Return of the Jedi) used in conversation like that. :^)

Rade
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From: Randy
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 94 E350 Alignment and Ride


>Don't you love fooling your friends into thinking that!! It's NOT
>against my programming to impersonate a diety... :)
>I had my '87 tie rod ends go bad (both) and man I thought I was
>driving a new truck since before it would shake the fillings out of my
>teeth under hard braking.
>
>Later,
>Randy (Brew)
>
>Stephen W. Hansen wrote:
>>
>> Just did a brake job on a econline, my friend was complaining about
shimming
>> when stopping. Took it out for a test drive, first thing noticed steering
>> wheel off center, brakes felt fair. Jacked it up and discovered the tie
rod
>> end shot. (the ford shop missed it when he had them do a inspection on
it)
>> Replaced it, rebuilt the front brakes. He drove it and was impressed with
>> the difference. I sent him to a alighnment shop, and he thinks I am the
>> automotive repair god.....


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