80-96-list-digest Sunday, August 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 284



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: Depressurizing Fuel Lines
Re: FTE 80-96 -Enamel paint?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Brake Light
FTE 80-96 - Re: stone/bug deflector
FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE80-96-Depressurizing Fuel Lines
FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel System De-pressurization
Re: FTE 80-96 - I'm Newbie !!; 351 A.I.R; axle seals; brakes; observations
FTE 80-96 - FLAPPING VISORS
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: stone/bug deflector
Re: FTE 80-96 - FLAPPING VISORS
FTE 80-96 - 4x indicator light
FTE 80-96 - What is a Lariat?

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:15:32 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Depressurizing Fuel Lines

>Chris Robinson wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I'm getting ready to change the fuel filter on my 1994 F150 -
>4.9L/six.
>> The package says that I must depressurize the system before removing
>the
>> old filter. I've never changed the filter on a vehicle with an
>electric
>> fuel pump. How do I do this? Anyone have any ideas?
>>
Here's the "official" method... works for me. There is a fuel cutoff
switch behind the passenger side kick panel inside the cab. It is
activated in a collision to shut off your fuel supply, and can also be
tripped manually by removing the kick panel (one screw and pull VERY
carefully), inserting a screwdriver into a slot in the side and popping
the button up. Then start it up, and it will almost immediately die.
You must then push the button down when you're done. With a hooked tool
you might be able to shut off the switch without removing trim pieces.
BTW, this switch is the first thing to check if you're not getting fuel.
Sometimes it doesn't take much of an impact to set it off. Good luck
with the %(*&! fittings on the fuel filter! ;-) lordjanusz

'94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 '97 Saturn (SWMBO's)

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:40:03 -0700
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 -Enamel paint?

Chad, find a small safe place, that's not noticeable and sand it very lightly with
400-500grt
sand paper if it sands white it has clear coat Clear coat will sand off a white
chalky color.
You can even check it with your hand, rub your fingers on the paint hard! Sometimes
old paint will rub off alittle, say if your truck is blue you might get blue paint on
your
fingers. If it (does not) have clear coat !
Gene
Chad A. Dietrich wrote:

> I have an 86 f150 short box 5.0 SHO motor. What kind of paint was used on these
> trucks? Was it enamel or base coat clear coat? the paint code is 7B. the dealer
> told me that usually the clear coat had cc after the code. But my 97 f150 doesn't
> have cc on it but the dealer told me that that was clear coat.
>
> Thanks
> Chad
>
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:06:06 -0000
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Brake Light

Check all your vacuum hoses for leaks especially the one going to the brake
booster. I would also check the booster itself for a vacuum leak (I forget
the procedure but it should be in the Chilton's). Good kuck.

Rade
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From: Warren Auld
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Date: Saturday, August 15, 1998 5:25 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Brake Light


>
>Hi all,
>
>Hopefully someone will recognize this problem and know how to correct it.
>
>I have an '87 F-250 Diesel 4x4 (the motor is an '83 according to the data
>plate). Occasionally the brake light on the dashboard will come on for no
>apparent reason (as in driving down the road -- not braking or hitting
>bumps). The front brakes were replaced (pads, calipers and rotors) in the
>last 500 miles. The rear brakes have been looked at and appear to be okay.
>After the light came on (and went back off) the first time, I went hunting
>in Chilton's and found a small note about lose of vacuum and the brake
>light. A couple belts (including that one) were looking a little sad so I
>replaced 'em all (the belt to the vacuum pump is behind all the others.)
>It still does it. Any suggestions what to try next?
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> warren
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:18:21 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: stone/bug deflector

>
>Brian,
>I bought one of the 'cheapies' from Wal-mart for my '87 F-250 3 years
>ago and it is still in excellent shape. It's the smoked wrap-around
>(gives more strength..in my opinion) and it's also a bolt-on unit (no
>glue). I set it up about a fingers width from the hood (size 14
>fingers here though) and it NEVER touches the hood and this was w/o
>using those stick-on plastic gappers that some w/it. If I remember
>right it was about 35 bucks and I have no regrets. Congrats on the
>new truck.
>Later,
>Randy (Brew)
>
>Brian J. Babiuk wrote:
>>
>> Well I'm pleased to say that I recently purchased a 1995 Ford F150
>XL two
>> weeks ago. I am in the market for a stone/bug deflector for the
>hood, and
>> was wondering if there was actually any diffrence between those
>cheapies
>> Wal Mart sells vs the slightly more expensive ones at the "TrucK
>Shops"?

Randy is 100% correct; I have the same type on my '94, and it has
survived 3 Indiana winters without any trouble. Suggestions:
1) Get the wrap-around type to protect your fenders.
2) Attach it with stainless steel screws.
3) Use some sealant in the holes you must drill in your truck.
4) While you're at it, add some small mudflaps for the front wheels.
5) Enjoy your new Ford! lordjanusz

'94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 '97 Saturn (SWMBO's)


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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:04:09 -0500
From: Daniel Maxwell
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE80-96-Depressurizing Fuel Lines

Easiest way I found to de-pressurize the fuel system was start the truck,
reach under the dash, and hit the fuel pump cut-off with a screwdriver
handle. The truck will stall a little while later, wha-la, no pressure. to
reset, just push the button back, and yer off to da races.

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:55:25 PDT
From: "BRET LUTER"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Fuel System De-pressurization

>
>Chris Robinson wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I'm getting ready to change the fuel filter on my 1994 F150 -
4.9L/six.
>> The package says that I must depressurize the system before removing
the
>> old filter. I've never changed the filter on a vehicle with an
electric
>> fuel pump. How do I do this? Anyone have any ideas?
>>

Most Fords have an "inertia switch" designed to cut the flow of fuel in
the event of an accident. It's a very simple little switch that's
usually wired in-line to the electric fuel pump, all it does is break
continuity when subjected to a serious jolt or a roll-over.

I know that in most E-series Vans the inertia switch is located above
the passenger footwell on the right side of the footwell (if you were
sitting in the passenger seat). I think F-series trucks use the same
location. The switch looks like a black plastic relay with 2 wires
coming in from the bottom and a red "reset" button on top. They're
usually bolted to metal above or behind the kick panel.

You may be asking "what the Hell is his point???". Wellll, you can use
this inertia switch to your advantage when you need to de-pressurize th
fuel system! All you have to do is remove the 2 wires from the bottom of
the switch (this disables the electric fuel pump) and turn the engine
over several times to run some fuel through the system (it probably
won't start), this will de-pressurize the fuel system enough to safely
remove the fuel filter or any other fuel system component. Don't forget
to reconnect the wires to the inertia switch after you're done or you'll
never get it to start. Also- it is possible that you may need to reset
the switch- just press the red button on top- it should stay depressed
once you push it in.

All of the Ford owner's manuals I've seen in the last 10 years or so
mention this inertia switch as one of the first things to check if your
vehicle suddenly won't start, they also show where the switch is located
in each vehicle- check it out if you have trouble finding yours.

Hope this helps.

Bret Luter, Raleigh, NC
'85 F-350 Crew Cab SRW 6.9l Diesel (BMW Hauler)

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:59:35 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - I'm Newbie !!; 351 A.I.R; axle seals; brakes; observations

Denis,
Welcome to the mailer list. Here are some observations for you:
- -My '87 F-250HD 4x4 also has that A.I.R. system. Good luck finding
headers for that 351 set-up. Heddman (I think) makes a kit so you can
weld on the hook-ups to a set of headers, but I was trying to find a
set w/them already in, s/s would be nice.
- -You mentioned a cat-back system, but I didn't think the F-350's came
w/cats, mine didn't due to the 8600 lb GVWR, but I think that was the
last year for the F-250's, must be the same for the 350's then. Also
replaced my rear seals on the full-floater rear end, but only once and
I'm at 81k right now.
- -My F-250 pedal used to feel spongy to me as well, but I've just grown
used to it (until I drive someone elses vehicle and almost lock up the
brakes the first time I use them...hehe)
Later,
Randy (Brew)

Denis SIS wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am a first time poster. I own a 1989 F350 SRW Crew Cab with a
> 351/C6/4.10. Why does my truck have the A.I.R. system that goes into
> the exhaust manifolds intead of the type that goes into the back of the
> head like most 351s of that vintage I've seen? Nobody at Ford could
> give an answer. The only reason I could think of is that with the
> non-overdrive transmission and the 4.10 gears, the truck needs this in
> order to bring down the emissions, whereas if it was equipped with
> 3.55s, the engine would have the 'regular' A.I.R. sytem.
> I am looking for headers for this truck if the exhaust manifolds
> crack, like they did when the truck was under warranty.

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> I have also had a problem with rear axle seals. Each side has been
> replaced at twice, maybe three times.
> The brake pedal also feels too spongy

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> Thanks and have great weekend!
>
> Denis Hergenreter
> denis500 hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:05:05 -0500
From: "Rob Sartorius"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FLAPPING VISORS

ANY BODY KNOW HOW TO REPLACE OR REPAIR THE LOOSE FLAPPING, SQUIRRELLY SUN
VISORS IN 1985 F-150....MINE WILL NOT STAY UP OR IN ANY POSITION....

ROB
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:17:16 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: stone/bug deflector

Paul,
Good points on the s/s screws and the sealant. I used the screws that
came w/it but I did use silicon grease on each new hole. Mine's seen
3 NE Ohio winters here (plowing too), but we won't count last year
since it really ended after the 1st of the year, no more snow to plow
(thank you El Nino).
Later,
Randy (Brew)

Paul M Radecki wrote:
>
- -----snip-----
>
> Randy is 100% correct; I have the same type on my '94, and it has
> survived 3 Indiana winters without any trouble. Suggestions:
> 1) Get the wrap-around type to protect your fenders.
> 2) Attach it with stainless steel screws.
> 3) Use some sealant in the holes you must drill in your truck.
> 4) While you're at it, add some small mudflaps for the front wheels.
> 5) Enjoy your new Ford! lordjanusz
>
> '94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 '97 Saturn (SWMBO's)
>
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:28:36 -0700
From: dhollingworth juno.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - FLAPPING VISORS

I replaced the sun visors in my 1984 Bronco with ones from a 87 or newer
Ford truck. The newer ones have a clip mounted to the roof on each side
of the rear view mirror which keeps the sun visors from sagging in the
middle. I got mine for $40 from a junk yard and they work great.

Dave

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:05:05 -0500 "Rob Sartorius"
writes:
>ANY BODY KNOW HOW TO REPLACE OR REPAIR THE LOOSE FLAPPING, SQUIRRELLY
>SUN
>VISORS IN 1985 F-150....MINE WILL NOT STAY UP OR IN ANY POSITION....
>
>ROB
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 23:50:35 PDT
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 4x indicator light

Well I have the truck back on the road for couple of weeks, everything
has been doing fine until I went to use 4WD. 4WD works fine, but the
light dose not work. I plugged everything after the clutch job, (one
wire on the tranny, and the speedo cable in the t-case). I really don't
want to tear the dash off to check the bulb, is it possible to use a
multitester on the wire or the plug in to check the bulb?

thanks
Casey Vandor

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:24:11 +1000
From: "Tony"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - What is a Lariat?

I have recently purchased a '86 F150 Lariat 5.0 litre. Can anyone tell me....


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