80-96-list-digest Sunday, August 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 276



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - what tranny do i have????????
FTE 80-96 - Blower wiring
FTE 80-96 - Ford trucks email addresses and web space (free)
RE: FTE 80-96 - TSB info
FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest
Re: FTE 80-96 - Snow Plowing
Re: FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump
Re: FTE 80-96 - Blower wiring
Re: FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump
FTE 80-96 - Ford EEC IV

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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 08:02:10 -0400
From: "Bruce A. Ramirez"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - what tranny do i have????????

I had an 88 E-250, it had a C-6 with an inline 6. Thats the only
transmission without overdrive Ford put behind the 300 inline 6.

Bruce Ramirez
1991 F-150 4x4 4.9L

JSC721 aol.com wrote:
>
> i just purchased an 89 e-250 with a inline 6 cyl. 177k on it. its a 3 speed
> tranny. im hoping its the bad boy C-6. would anybody know??thanks
>
> joe
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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 09:04:04 -0400
From: "THE PAVIES'"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Blower wiring

*Hey guys, anyone have a wiring diagram for a 90 Econoline? The blower
*on mine was damaged somehow when a mechanic did the R134 kit install. I
*found a burned and broken terminal on the blower relay and I replaced
*it with a new one but the blower still doesnt work.
*The blower works OK if I put 12v on it. The switch on the dash meters
*OK (I even took it apart and cleaned all the contacts inside the sw).
*The speed resistors seem OK too although they show very little
*resistance (don't know if that's normal or not). I don't see anything
*that's obviously wrong. There are sooooo many wires and I don't know
*where they go... A wiring diagram or maybe someone who has any
*trouble-shooting experience and suggestions would be a great help. I
*may end up rewiring all the circuits if I can't locate the problem but
*not without a wiring diagram. Anyone know where to buy one?
*Hey- it gets pretty hot in that van without A/C these days!
*Thanks. Jack P.
*
* 95 F350 Powerstroke 4wd Crewcab
* 90 E150 300ci
* 76 F250 360ci
* and 67 VW Bug
* 61 VW Singlecab Bus (in pieces)
* Hey- VW's are cool too!
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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 13:50:58 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford trucks email addresses and web space (free)

There was an announcement made one week ago about offering
personal email addresses with Ford Truck Enthusiasts
(yourname ford-trucks.com). This service is now in place.
Additionally, we are now offering, on a first come, first
serve basis, free web pages!!!

Here's all the info, concerning the email addresses and
web space:

Email addresses (not free):
===========================
A. Pricing
- $2.50 per month with a $5 setup fee. Address is available
in 6 month increments so the initial cost is $20 for six
months.
- renewal every six months is $15 ($2.50/month)
- If you purchase 1 year in advance, the setup fee is
waived and your cost is $30.
- Additional addresses are available at the cost of $1.75
per month with a $2.50 setup fee for each address.

B. These are for personal use only, not for use by businesses.

C. Each mailbox has a 2 meg storage quota. That enough to
hold quite a bit of email when you go on vacation!

Web space
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A. We have about 4 meg of space available for personal/club
web sites.

B. We plan to offer 10 free sites, on a first come, first
serve basis. Space limitation per site is 409k. Doesn't
sound like much but here's some information put it in
perspective: the average picture size on our web site is
about 50k (70% image quality JPEGs), the average HTML page
is about 7k. You'll be able to put several pages on the
site.

C. You'll have FTP access to post your pages.

D. Your page's domain would be in the form:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/yourname/

E. Page domain names follow the same naming rules as email
addresses.

G. Web counter and form email scripts are included.

H. Site must have a link to our main page, we will include
a link to your site in our links section. We have a banner
you can link to but the banner isn't required.

I. Site must be Ford truck oriented.

J. Additional space will be available for $2 per meg, per
month for the first 2 meg and $1.50 per meg, per month
for every meg beyond that. We'll purchase this space
from our hosting company. Purchased space does not have
to be completely Ford truck oriented but should include
some Ford truck content.

K. Once the 10 free sites are given away, paid sites will
be made available at the costs listed above. (1 meg
minimum size). Purchased space does not have to be
completely Ford truck oriented but should include some
Ford truck content.

Combination email address/web sites are available. These email
accounts and web sites are used to pay for the **substantial**
monthly expenses we have, including the mailing lists which many
of you freely enjoy. We will never charge for the mailing lists,
but it does cost us quite a bit to provide the service and we do
appreciate it when list members help out.

If you want an email address and/or web site send me
(kpayne ford-trucks.com) three choices, in order of preference,
for your email/web site address. Addresses must:
1. be 8 characters or less. If you have a special need for
an email address that is longer we can setup an "alias"
longer than 8 characters.
2. start with an alphabetic character
3. contain only alpha/numeric characters

Also, send the password you would like to use. We plan to
put a password change utility on the web site as soon as
possible.


Regards,
Ken and Peggy Payne
kpayne ford-trucks.com
CoAdmins, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 13:16:49 -0600
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - TSB info

Chris,
I'll try on this one.

First items were diagnostic tests.

The fuel pressure item is a TSB. There is a screen that gets plugged
from lint, or similar, from the fuel filter which results in several
things including poor mileage. It is located on the side of the fuel
filter housing. A procedure for cleaning it is on The Ford Diesel page,
Formerly Jason's Powerstroke page.

They reprogrammed your PCM. Seems every time you get a Powerstroke
serviced they have a new program.

The air cleaner service recall fixes a problem with air leakage around
the air filter. Dirt getting past the filter is not good. Surprised
you haven't received notification of that recall.

Larry

>Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:19:50 -0700
>From: cfoye baynetworks.com (Chris Foye)
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - TSB info

>I brought my 97 F350 CC PSD 4.10 gearing, in for some service on
complaint
>of poor gas mileage, I was getting around 12 towing and 14 empty.
Well, it
>looks like they didn't find anything in particular but, they did
perform
>two services, one TSB and another service recall.
>I was hoping that somebody from the list would be able to help me out
in
>understanding what they did.
>According to the print out:

>Hook up SBDS, performed KOEO and KOER, ran idle data playback and found
>reading normal. Removed fuel pressure regulator cleared screen
performed
>performance sheet. and ran Oasis performed TSB 97.9.8 PCM
reprogramming

>Perform program 97B16 DIT air cleaners 1864 service recall.


>Could somebody shed some light on this? After driving it now for 30
miles
>or so, I'm finding that the shifts are smoother and a little bit later.
I
>personally like it, I'll have to check the mileage on the next tank.

>Thanks, this is such a great resource.

>Chris
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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 18:04:47 -0500
From: "LeRoy Wolff"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump

Hey Guys !

I have a 1984 Ford F 150 with the 300 six . My power steering pump is
leaking out the shaft seal.
My question is , , how is the pulley removed ? I would like to just put a
new shaft seal on it instead
of replacing the entire pump.

Thanks in advance .

LeRoy Wolff
Wimbledon, North Dakota
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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:03:17 -0400
From: Marcia Merrifield
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96-list-digest

Hey guys,I'm just curious,but does anybody know why some 87 f-150 4x4's
have manual hubs with no screws to take them apart.They are like one
unit that goeas over the lug nuts.Is there any way to convert these to
standard hubs,they want around $175 apiece at the garage!Thanks for any
response.


John


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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 22:15:56 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Snow Plowing

Scottie,
I have to agree w/Doug that an F-150 is too small for serious plowing
even if it had an 302 in it. I have used my F-250HD for about 3 years
now but just as a 'hobbie'. I have a great paying 9-5 already that
I'm not ready to sacrifice for plowing. This is why I plow only
driveways since as Doug mentioned any commercial business will want
there lots plowed if over 2-3" fall at anytime during the day or
night. My brother in law used to use his Bronco and make upwards of
$45/hour plowing commercially but his truck was abused hard. Anyone I
plow for knows I only plow after work and they are fine w/that. I
have used both Myers and Western and I like my Western better, but I
must say I've never used the Myers quick-lift system either. I
recommend dual batteries and the highest amp rated alternator you can
afford to put under the hood. Or you could use the Fischer hydraulic
plow. I've never used them but I've heard nothing but good things
about them and the road departments usually use them. If you plan on
doing just driveways on the side don't be so quick to sell that F-150,
I used to use an '85 Nissan 4 banger (hello!) and it did great in
drives w/the manueverability, but couldn't push any piles out of the
way. My buddy put a Myers on his F-150 and the coils could hardly
keep the plow carriage from dragging the ground. He put air bags on
the front and it was fine after that. If you plan on keeping the
truck do maintenance MORE frequently than w/normal driving. Also save
the drivetrain and come to COMPLETE stops before shifting. The few
seconds you'll save for each pass won't make up for the cost of early
replacement on those components.
Hope to be of some help.
Later,
Randy (Brew)

Scottie Schmidt wrote:
>
> Hi, my dad currently has a 93 F-150 I6. He is interested in starting
> his own snow removal business but is not sure if his truck will do the
> job (of course he will have to buy a plow). We were wondering:
> will his truck do the job?
> what kind of truck is best for plowing(might buy a different truck)?
> some tips on snow plowing?
> what type of plow is best?
> any suggestions?
> Scottie Schmidt
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Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:14:38 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump

The pulley on the steering pump is pulled with a special steering pump
pulley puller. Often you can rent them from a local rental. Or if you
have teh pump rebuilt the rebuilder might lend you the tool. Around here a
couple of the parts suppliers will lend you the tool if you are buying
parts from them. Once you see the puller it's a fairly simple thing, it
also installs the pulley as well.

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> From: LeRoy Wolff
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump
> Date: Saturday, August 08, 1998 7:04 PM
>
> Hey Guys !
>
> I have a 1984 Ford F 150 with the 300 six . My power steering pump is
> leaking out the shaft seal.
> My question is , , how is the pulley removed ? I would like to just put
a
> new shaft seal on it instead
> of replacing the entire pump.
>
> Thanks in advance .
>
> LeRoy Wolff
> Wimbledon, North Dakota
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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 22:51:01 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Blower wiring

THE PAVIES' wrote:
>
[snip]
> *
> * 95 F350 Powerstroke 4wd Crewcab
> * 90 E150 300ci
> * 76 F250 360ci
> * and 67 VW Bug
> * 61 VW Singlecab Bus (in pieces)
> * Hey- VW's are cool too!

They are? I thought VW stood for Virtually Worthless. :)

Sorry Jack,
Couldn't drop the ball on that pass!
Later,
Randy (Brew)
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Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 23:01:15 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Power Steering Pump

LeRoy,

You could rent or buy a pulley puller. Check into buying a new pump
while your bothering to take the old one out (unless you can replace
the pulley w/o removing the pump). I replaced my F-250's pump last
summer and it seems it wasn't too expensive. I do remember however
that the pump was LESS expensive WITH the resevoir than w/out! I
think it cost around 60 bucks. Even if you buy a new pump you will
still have to pull your pulley off your old one so keep that in mind
since you'll still need the tool! I don't think there's enough room
to pull the pulley off w/the pump in the truck since the tool is
probably 6-8" long. I could be mistaken, you may want to see if
others on the list have done this or when you get the tool stick it
down there and see if it'll fit. If you take the pump out the old
line from the pump to the box may be pretty crappy, mine was and I
couldn't get the fitting to turn w/o the line turning w/it so I just
cut the line to get the pump out and went back up to the parts store
to get a new line (around $15). It was worth the piece of mind anyway
instead of trying to save the old line.

Hope this helps,
Later,
Randy (Brew)



LeRoy Wolff wrote:
>
> Hey Guys !
>
> I have a 1984 Ford F 150 with the 300 six . My power steering pump is
> leaking out the shaft seal.
> My question is , , how is the pulley removed ? I would like to just put a
> new shaft seal on it instead
> of replacing the entire pump.
>
> Thanks in advance .
>
> LeRoy Wolff
> Wimbledon, North Dakota
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:51:59 +1000
From: "Tony"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford EEC IV

I suspect I may have a faulty computer in my F150.
I would like to swap with another as this would be the easiest way to find
out if the computer is the problem or not. My problem is that F150s are not
all that common in Australia.EEC IV computers are (or were) used in a
number of Ford vehicles and if they are all the same then I will have no....


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