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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Temperature GAGE 94 F150
FTE 80-96 - Putting clutch back together
FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD
FTE 80-96 - Not a Virus Warning!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Not a Virus Warning!
FTE 80-96 - F-250 PSD lift kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 PSD lift kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - leaning truck
FTE 80-96 - Brake Bleeder Valve
Re: FTE 80-96 - Brake Bleeder Valve
FTE 80-96 - CHECK ENGINE LIGHT
FTE 80-96 - Re: Leaning trucks
FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD
FTE 80-96 - Re: Crankcase breather filter.
Re: FTE 80-96 - CHECK ENGINE LIGHT
FTE 80-96 - '95 timing woes
Re: FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD
Re: FTE 80-96 - '95 timing woes
FTE 80-96 - Automatic Overdrive.
Re: FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD
Re: FTE 80-96 - Putting clutch back together
Re: FTE 80-96 - Automatic Overdrive.
FTE 80-96 - No-Go 1996 F150 5.0 LWB Lariat 2wd AOD

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 07:25:16 -0400
From: "Norman Maranda"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Temperature GAGE 94 F150

Hi all, For some reason my temperature gage is reading low. I still have heat
and I changed my thermostat(thinking it may have been stuck open). Where is the
temperature sensor located on the engine(i.e 1994 5.0L) I was thinking of
cleaning the connections or if need be replacing it. If I have to replace it
How would I do that? Hope to hear from you all soon and Thanks in advance.





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NAME: Norman J. Maranda Jr.
TITLE: STRESS ANALYST
DEPT: D464
E-MAIL ADDRESS: nmaranda gdeb.com
WORK #: (860) 433-1652
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:11:37 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Putting clutch back together

Well Gang,
I got the new rear main seal in yesterday. I found the
aviation sealant Gary(from Bronco email list) talked about
(Parts America) that goes around the outside edge. Now
the main seal is EVER SO SLIGHTLY cocked. You think
that is going to be a problem with that aviation sealant
that I used. Oh by the way, that stuff does not give you much
time to work with. It says a couple minutes but is really within
a minute.

And ofcourse if something is going to happen its going to
happen to ME. I was on the road to putting it back together
and I snapped one of the six bolts that holds the clutch
pressure plate to the flywheel. :-( So I took the clutch/
pressure plate off, then took the flywheel BACK off and I am
going to get 6 new bolts. I have a feeling the pressure plate bolts
are really a limited bolt, that is they are limited to how many times
they should be taken off. I guess your not supposed to be taking your
clutch apart every other week. :-)

Also let me ask, should there be lock washers on the pressure plate
bolts ? I left them on there when I was replacing the clutch 3 weeks
ago, but was't sure if they HAVE to be there.

I havn't driven the Bronco for 3 1/2 weeks now except to check out
the clutch and pressure plate I put in 3 weeks ago, then the weekend
before last I put in new ball joints and front axle u-joints and then
...................................... :-( But as they say in England "
keep
your pecker up", so I will. :-) The thing is, when I get past this
clutch
and rear main seal thing(which should be tonight :-) ) all I have left
to do is rebuild the carb and get a new exhaust, then I WILL have
a BRAND NEW '83. Didn't mean to write this much, I just get
frustrated sometimes, and you guys/gals share in my frustrations.

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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:45:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Havens
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD

> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:55:42 EDT
> From: RobSweed aol.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: E4OD
>
> Dave, I turned off the OD to eliminate that possibility. If it is a 4 speed
> then I'm not getting much action in 3rd because it seems to go right to 4th.
> Even when I try to accelerate in 3rd it either goes to 4th or drops down to
> 2nd. It confuses the heck out of me.

I thought the OD cancel switch just kept it out of 4th. It prevents TC
lock-up as well??

Ben Havens
'94 U150 XLT 5.8
'79 F250 Custom


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 08:59:31 PDT
From: "Mike Mueller"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Not a Virus Warning!

Hey Fordsters-
I've had the Bud Frogs as a screen saver for a year now, loud but I love =
them. Not a Trojan horse, but then you never know...

BTW: I also have the M&M one, and a cool X-Files, a lousy dead head one, =
but I can't seem to find a good Ford Truck one. Anyone out there got a =
good one? (win 3.1)



With all this talk about timing, I have a question. I have an '89 F-150 =
351 A/T.
What are the specs to set time and what if anything do I need to disconne=
ct?



"We now return you the regularly scheduled virus alert program in your =
area"

Thanks!

Mike Mueller
The Leasing Dept.
Equipment Leasing and Funding
www.leasingdept.com
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather,
not screaming in terror like his passengers".

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:49:16 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Not a Virus Warning!

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.galttech.com/ssheaven.shtml

Check out this site. They've got lots of screen savers, including some
Ford, but I don't know if there are any Ford truck screen savers.

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belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:58:22 EDT
From: GoEIB1 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-250 PSD lift kit

I am looking for some input on lift kits for a 1995 PSD F-250. I would like to
increase the tire size from stock (without new wheels) while getting a little
more clearance... 2 1/2 or 4 inch. What considerations have to be made for the
diesel? Would a weekend mechanic (myself!!) be able to install these lifts
without specialized tools? Any suggestions on proven kits?

Pete Gatchell
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:06:44 -0700
From: cfoye baynetworks.com (Chris Foye)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 PSD lift kit

Hi Pete,

I too am looking at putting a lift kit on my truck, F350 CC PSD. Looks
like SuperLift is the only company making a lift
kit specifically for the F350 with the PSD. They have two versions, one
for the gas engine and an little bit different rate spring for the diesel.
I would check out some web pages and such for features.

www.gorancho.com
www.superlift.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.citysearchslc.com/E/V/SLCUT/0010/07/75/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.roughcountry.com/

also check some of the mail order places for prices
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4wheelparts.com/

Hope this helps.

Chris


At 12:58 PM 7/30/98 -0400, GoEIB1 aol.com wrote...
>I am looking for some input on lift kits for a 1995 PSD F-250. I would
like to
>increase the tire size from stock (without new wheels) while getting a little
>more clearance... 2 1/2 or 4 inch. What considerations have to be made for
the
>diesel? Would a weekend mechanic (myself!!) be able to install these lifts
>without specialized tools? Any suggestions on proven kits?
>
>Pete Gatchell
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:06:20 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - leaning truck

Jeffrey M. Levin wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone could tell me what would make my Explorer tilt
> toward the driver side. I measured the distance from the ground to the
> finder on the driver side and compared it to the passanger side. there
> was around 3/4" difference. The air pressure is about 26 psi in all the
> tires. The truck has about 108,000 miles on the odometer. I recently
> installed new front bearings and shocks but noticed that someone had
> removed the driver side coil spring and did not bend the top tab back
> over the top of the spring.
>
> I measured both front and rear and got about the same readings. The
> driver's side read about 31-3/4" the passengers side read around
> 32-1/2".
>
> I have also noticed that when driving on the left side of the highway
> the truck wants to pull to the left. However, when driving on the right
> of the highway the truck seems fine.
>
> Please e-mail me back with some helpfull insight.
>
> Jeff Levin
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Probably the rumber body mounts. If you replace them go with
polyurethane bushings. They make a world of difference
Hope this helps
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:39:22 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Brake Bleeder Valve

Automotive content, but none of it VOLVO related.

I was at the auto parts store this weekend and came across
Semi-Automatic Brake Bleeder Valves. FINALLY! Looks like a standard but
elongated bleeder valve that has a check valve(ball and spring built
in). You just loosen the valve(of course with a hose attached to it in a
jar of clean fluid), get in and pump the brakes till the pedal firms up
, then tighten the valve(or so the directions say). The problem is, it
looks like you need one for each wheel and they come in 2-packs(?) at
$15 a pack. Some of you may have already seen these but I sure hadn't.
They sound simple enough to work. Anyone used these yet?

Walt


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:12:52 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Brake Bleeder Valve

Just make sure you get some clips to hold them on the
bleeder screws. I've used this product, it works well,
but the fluid pressure can throw it off the bleeder
screw. You only need 2 at a time, because the front
and rear brakes are seperate circuits.

Ken Payne

At 01:39 PM 7/30/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Automotive content, but none of it VOLVO related.
>
>I was at the auto parts store this weekend and came across
>Semi-Automatic Brake Bleeder Valves. FINALLY! Looks like a standard but
>elongated bleeder valve that has a check valve(ball and spring built
>in). You just loosen the valve(of course with a hose attached to it in a
>jar of clean fluid), get in and pump the brakes till the pedal firms up
>, then tighten the valve(or so the directions say). The problem is, it
>looks like you need one for each wheel and they come in 2-packs(?) at
>$15 a pack. Some of you may have already seen these but I sure hadn't.
>They sound simple enough to work. Anyone used these yet?
>
>Walt
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:15:11 -0500
From: "Rob Sartorius"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - CHECK ENGINE LIGHT

WHERE ON THE DASH ON A 1984 F-150 XLT EXT CAB IS THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT?
MINE IS EITHER NOT THERE OR BURNED OUT....

THANKS

ROB
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:34:45 -0500
From: "Jram"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Leaning trucks

I am pretty sure that the spec for body lean is 3/4" per the Ford shop
manual. That doesn't mean that it will look good, that is just the Ford
spec. May or may not be of help.
Jram swbell.net


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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:37:34 -0600
From: "David Sagers"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD

I have a 1989 F350 4X4 with a manual 5 speed OD, 460 FI gas engine. I =
need to put in an automatic trans and would like one with an overdrive. I =
have been told that the E4OD would require that I also change the computer =
to one from a vehicle with the same trans. =20

Does the AOD trans require a computer? =20

Is it as strong and dependable as the E4OD?

Thanks in advance for the help.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:37:33 -0500
From: "Jram"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Crankcase breather filter.

'94 model F-150 has the inlet tube for the crankcase in the plenum right
before the throttle body. This eliminated the need for the crankcase filter
because it is using the intake air filter. I guess they decided to make
more money by selling more filters on later model years. Who knows.
jram swbell.net

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:47:33 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - CHECK ENGINE LIGHT

At the bottom right corner of the intrument cluster. It's right beside the
'6' on the tach on my '95.
Try turning on the ignition, without starting the truck. Several indicator
lights in the same general area should light up; seat belt, brake ( if the
parking brake is set ), ABS ( and will go off after a few seconds ), and
Check Engine. The check engine light should stay lit till the engine is
started. If it's not on, the bulb could be burned out. ( it looks like a
chore to change it ) On my truck you can just make out the lettering even
though the light is off.

Jack

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> From: Rob Sartorius
> To: FORD TRUCKS
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - CHECK ENGINE LIGHT
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 6:15 PM
>
> WHERE ON THE DASH ON A 1984 F-150 XLT EXT CAB IS THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT?
> MINE IS EITHER NOT THERE OR BURNED OUT....
>
> THANKS
>
> ROB
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:03:11 -0600
From: Fred Moreno
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '95 timing woes

Jack wrote;

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:12:05 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - '95 5.0 Timing Woes

The I'm having trouble with the 5.0 in my '95 F150.

A few days ago, all of a sudden, the engine lost power and started
making a
terrible noise down the exhaust. Turns out to be the timing is
retarded.
I'm getting about 12 degrees at idle and up to about 20 degrees at speed
(
but that falls erratically back to about 12 again ). Checked the static
timing; right on 10 degrees. I tried swaping the thick film module (
remote
mount on fender in this case ), no luck. My TFI works fine in another
truck. I compared my Mustang timing, closer to 30 at idle, and
advances right off the scale at speed nice and steady all the time.

Any ideas what can cause such a headache?

I looked for a knock sensor, couldn't find one.

Can't find the MAP sensor either.

TIA, Jack


I have had people run into this similar situation and worst. If your
truck has an automatic transmission you most likely have a Mass Air Flow
sensor. Usually mounted right next to the Air Cleaner Box. Should you
have an air leak in your intake system or in the air hose between this
sensor and the throttle plates, a situation very similar to what you
describe will occur. The sensor itself has been known to "expire" also,
so don't discount that. A digital Voltmeter might be helpful in
diagnosing the sensor, somewhere around here we should have the values
to be expected. I can send/post these for you if you wish, just got to
find the right pile on this desk if you know what I mean...
But do look at your air hose between the sensor/air filter box and the
throttle plates and check that no cracks in it exists. If it is not
mounted flush, this will also cause some problems too.
My truck is equipped with a 5-speed manual and has a MAP sensor only,
no MAF like the automatics. Not sure what I would suspect if you had the
same type of system I do. Great, I hope I can sleep tonight...I'll keep
thinking.

Fred Moreno
Autotronic Controls Corp.- Alternative Fuels div.
El Paso TX employed - New Mexico resident.
"If it ain't Jabanero, it ain't hot."
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:01:22 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD

It's true, the E4OD requires shifting signals from the engine computer.
It's also the only overdrive transmission for the 460. The AOD does not
require the computer, but it just doesn't have the capacity required for
the 460. I don't think the AOD was even used behind 351s

Jack

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> From: David Sagers
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 6:37 PM
>
> I have a 1989 F350 4X4 with a manual 5 speed OD, 460 FI gas engine. I
need to put in an automatic trans and would like one with an overdrive. I
have been told that the E4OD would require that I also change the computer
to one from a vehicle with the same trans.
>
> Does the AOD trans require a computer?
>
> Is it as strong and dependable as the E4OD?
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:53:57 -0400
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '95 timing woes

Indeed, my truck is an auto, and it does have Mass Air. ( Still can't find
a BP sensor though, I thought it would need one ) Anyhow, I decided to try
a few things. Warmed the truck up. Disconnected the MAF sensor, started it
up, still running just the same ... hmmmm .. maybe we are getting somewhere
here .... WAIT JUST A DAMDED MINUTE!!! NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT !!! I could
have been saved all this agravation if the computer knew there was
something wrong, I though I had a bad sensor somewhere giving the computer
bogus but still in range information. I've always assumed that if the
light was off, the computer was happy. Now I will have to find a code
book for this year of truck ( my latest one is for '89 ). I think I can
borrow a MAF sensor from a friend for a test .... we shall see.

Fred; if you happen across thos voltage charts, I would be most happy to
receive them, my books don't list anything ( your desk must look a little
like mine, "this heap on the floor is done, this heap here is new, this
heap in the middle is pending )

Thanks

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> From: Fred Moreno
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - '95 timing woes
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 7:03 PM
>
> Jack wrote;
>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:12:05 -0400
> From: "Matt Fitzsimmons"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - '95 5.0 Timing Woes
>
> The I'm having trouble with the 5.0 in my '95 F150.
>
> A few days ago, all of a sudden, the engine lost power and started
> making a
> terrible noise down the exhaust. Turns out to be the timing is
> retarded.
> I'm getting about 12 degrees at idle and up to about 20 degrees at speed
> (
> but that falls erratically back to about 12 again ). Checked the static
> timing; right on 10 degrees. I tried swaping the thick film module (
> remote
> mount on fender in this case ), no luck. My TFI works fine in another
> truck. I compared my Mustang timing, closer to 30 at idle, and
> advances right off the scale at speed nice and steady all the time.
>
> Any ideas what can cause such a headache?
>
> I looked for a knock sensor, couldn't find one.
>
> Can't find the MAP sensor either.
>
> TIA, Jack
>
>
> I have had people run into this similar situation and worst. If your
> truck has an automatic transmission you most likely have a Mass Air Flow
> sensor. Usually mounted right next to the Air Cleaner Box. Should you
> have an air leak in your intake system or in the air hose between this
> sensor and the throttle plates, a situation very similar to what you
> describe will occur. The sensor itself has been known to "expire" also,
> so don't discount that. A digital Voltmeter might be helpful in
> diagnosing the sensor, somewhere around here we should have the values
> to be expected. I can send/post these for you if you wish, just got to
> find the right pile on this desk if you know what I mean...
> But do look at your air hose between the sensor/air filter box and the
> throttle plates and check that no cracks in it exists. If it is not
> mounted flush, this will also cause some problems too.
> My truck is equipped with a 5-speed manual and has a MAP sensor only,
> no MAF like the automatics. Not sure what I would suspect if you had the
> same type of system I do. Great, I hope I can sleep tonight...I'll keep
> thinking.
>
> Fred Moreno
> Autotronic Controls Corp.- Alternative Fuels div.
> El Paso TX employed - New Mexico resident.
> "If it ain't Jabanero, it ain't hot."
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:46:13 -0400
From: troyw mfi.net (Troy Williams)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Automatic Overdrive.

I've got a question for ya'll. I've got an '84 F-150 with only 86,000
original miles on it (not on a rebuilt motor, original miles, it wasn't
driven that much before I got it), 302 V-8, and an automatic
transmission.

Anyway, it's got the overdrive transmission in it. I have asked
which is better to leave it in overdrive, or use overdrive when I am
donig speeds over 45 MPH and I am not going to be slowing down,
stopping, and then having to take off again.

I've got the Overdrive, another DRIVE, and then a 1. The overdrive
being represented by a D with a white circle around it, and then
beside it is just a plain D.

When I am doing speeds under 45 or when I am having to slow
down constantly, I just leave it out of overdrive, and then when I am
doing speeds above 45 where there isn't all of the slowing down
and taking off, then I will remove my foot from the gas, shift it up
and then go.

I was wondering if I was putting more strain on the engine and
transmission by leaving it out of overdrive. The main reason that I
do that, is if it kicks into overdrive and then I have to slow down for
a stoplight or something, and then have to take off again without
coming to a complete stop, the truck picks up speed VERY
slowly, and I have to baby it along until I can get it back up to the
speed limit and it seems that it puts more work on the engine to try
and get it back up at that point.

I have asked this question of a few folks and half of them say leave
it in and half of them say leave it out unless you're doing highway
speeds. Thanks for any help.

You might be a redneck if... You eat a bowl of beans in order to
take a bubble bath. - Jeff Foxworthy


Troy Williams
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:44:49 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - AOD vs. E4OD

AOD Trannies do not conect to the EEC-IV computer, they are not truly a
heavy duty transmission. I'm not altogether sure that the E40D will bolt up
to a 460.

Bob

At 04:37 PM 7/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a 1989 F350 4X4 with a manual 5 speed OD, 460 FI gas engine. I
need to put in an automatic trans and would like one with an overdrive. I
have been told that the E4OD would require that I also change the computer
to one from a vehicle with the same trans.
>
>Does the AOD trans require a computer?
>
>Is it as strong and dependable as the E4OD?
>
>Thanks in advance for the help.
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:47:42 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Putting clutch back together

Rick Wojciechowski wrote:
>
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> And ofcourse if something is going to happen its going to
> happen to ME. I was on the road to putting it back together
> and I snapped one of the six bolts that holds the clutch
> pressure plate to the flywheel. :-( So I took the clutch/
> pressure plate off, then took the flywheel BACK off and I am
> going to get 6 new bolts. I have a feeling the pressure plate bolts
> are really a limited bolt, that is they are limited to how many times
> they should be taken off. I guess your not supposed to be taking your
> clutch apart every other week. :-)
>
> Also let me ask, should there be lock washers on the pressure plate
> bolts ? I left them on there when I was replacing the clutch 3 weeks
> ago, but was't sure if they HAVE to be there.
>
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Wojo,
EVERY bolt has a limited life expectancy. I don't know if you can get
a torque wrench up in there or not, but if you can, torque to
spec...no more...no less. I could go nuts in here talking about
tensile strengths, fatigue factors and other such, but that's what it
comes down to. When you torque any bolt you actually are stretching
the bolt slightly. That combined w/the twisting force (torque) can
wear out a heavily used bolt right quick. Hence the reason engine
rebuilders use new bolts for the connecting rods and caps. Also if
those other bolts had the lock washers USE them. Under harsh use or
heavy vibration they'll keep the bolts from backing out (I'm sure you
don't want that to happen). About the only other device to prevent
that from happening is ny-locks (nuts w/nylon inserts in them), but
probably not useful for this situation.

Hope to be of some help,
Randy (Brew)
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:51:13 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Automatic Overdrive.

A different solution;
You could try to adjust the kickdown cable that controls the downshift of
the transmission w/acceleration. That should bring it out of OD as you
throttle it.

At 08:46 PM 7/30/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I've got a question for ya'll. I've got an '84 F-150 with only 86,000
>original miles on it (not on a rebuilt motor, original miles, it wasn't
>driven that much before I got it), 302 V-8, and an automatic
>transmission.
>
>Anyway, it's got the overdrive transmission in it. I have asked
>which is better to leave it in overdrive, or use overdrive when I am
>donig speeds over 45 MPH and I am not going to be slowing down,
>stopping, and then having to take off again.
>
>I've got the Overdrive, another DRIVE, and then a 1. The overdrive
>being represented by a D with a white circle around it, and then
>beside it is just a plain D.
>
>When I am doing speeds under 45 or when I am having to slow
>down constantly, I just leave it out of overdrive, and then when I am
>doing speeds above 45 where there isn't all of the slowing down
>and taking off, then I will remove my foot from the gas, shift it up
>and then go.
>
>I was wondering if I was putting more strain on the engine and
>transmission by leaving it out of overdrive. The main reason that I
>do that, is if it kicks into overdrive and then I have to slow down for
>a stoplight or something, and then have to take off again without
>coming to a complete stop, the truck picks up speed VERY
>slowly, and I have to baby it along until I can get it back up to the
>speed limit and it seems that it puts more work on the engine to try
>and get it back up at that point.
>
>I have asked this question of a few folks and half of them say leave
>it in and half of them say leave it out unless you're doing highway
>speeds. Thanks for any help.
>
>You might be a redneck if... You eat a bowl of beans in order to
>take a bubble bath. - Jeff Foxworthy
>
>
>Troy Williams
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:51:58 +1000
From: "Tony"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - No-Go 1996 F150 5.0 LWB Lariat 2wd AOD

I have a 1996 5 litre fuel injected F150. A couple of days ago my parents
drove it to town and told me that it had missed or backfired a couple of
times during the trip.

They parked it in the driveway (cold weather 5 degrees celsius) all
afternoon and when I went out to put it in the shed that night it would not
start.

Fred Moreno has given me some good advice but I can't quite track down the
problem. It turns over freely, but will not fire. Their is plenty of fuel
in the tanks.

With the key in the 'ON' position I can hear the fuel pump running and I
can hear a definite hissing noise coming from a small cannister mounted on....


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