80-96-list-digest Monday, July 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 242

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - catalytic converter
Re: FTE 80-96 - Window weather stripping
FTE 80-96 - How to test fuel tank solenoid?
FTE 80-96 - Deciphering Check Engine Light Codes
FTE 80-96 - Re: Power Windows
RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers
FTE 80-96 - Big truck creaking...



Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:11:05 -0600
From: "David Sagers"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - catalytic converter

Usually swapping parts is only OK if the new parts are CARB certified, in =
California, or approved in your state. Most manufacturers will advertise =
which parts are certified. Usually, if Ca. accepts the parts most other =
states will also accept the parts as Ca is about the strictest state for =

>>> Randy 07/12 12:28 AM >>>
Actually tampering with ANY pollution controlling device on a car
('cept farm vehicle, etc.) is a no-no. This technically means that
swapping your airbox for an aftermarket unit (K&N for example) is
unacceptable, but I don't see anyone enforcing it to this level.=20
Let's hope it stays that way!!
Randy (Brew)

Troy Williams wrote:
> On 8 Jul 98, at 11:04, David Sagers wrote:
> >In addition to local laws, be careful not to run afoul of the federal
> >laws, especially in regards removing the cats. I can't recall exactly,
> >but removing the cat seems like a violation.
> Yeah it was. I heard something along the lines of modifying or
> tampering with the pollution tubes was against the law as well. I
> don't know, might wanna check into it.
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:36:10 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Window weather stripping

I apologize for not following the posts, which window are you talking about?


, I was hoping I could maybe squeeze it in with
>the window in place, and I don't really want to take the glass out myself.
>Casey Vandor
>Jim Cannon wrote:
>> Casey-
>> Talk to an auto glass shop in town about how to replace weather strip and
>> how to unglue glass form window riser.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:47:05 -0500
From: "Rob Sartorius"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - How to test fuel tank solenoid?

Does any one know how to test the fuel tank solenoid after it is removed
from the vehicle....I know that it does not switch tanks when installed,
but cannot figure how to test it on the workbench to see if it is ticking
or the switch in the dach is failing?


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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:12:15 -0500
From: "Charles R Dulaney"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Deciphering Check Engine Light Codes

I have managed to collect the data from the 'Check Engine Light' for which
I have been having trouble with. With a book I have determined how to
conduct the Key On Engine Off (KOEO) check, The Continuous code check and
The Running code checks. Below are the results of each, I have 2 books that
do not list any of these codes, or any codes for that matter, could some
one please decipher these for me?

KOEO codes: 111
Continous codes: 17, 36, 34
Running codes: 4

Actually, there are no Running codes, this 4, by the book, indicates the
number of cylinders, which a 4 equates to an 8 cylinder engine. After the 4
flashes of the Running code check, there were no more flashes of the Check
Engine Light.

Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Chuck D. Lawton, OK.
'92 Extended Flare Side with a Hammer Head!
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:48:08 EDT
From: BFunk33 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Power Windows

In a message dated 98-07-12 06:41:38 EDT, you write:

> From: "David Sagers"
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Power Windows
> I have an '89 F350 with power windows in the front but not the back. If I
> knew which parts to look for, I wouls like to add power windows to the =
> back doors.
> Do I look for a mechanicals out of a F series front doors or are the parts
> for the rear doors unique reuiring that I locate a four door with power =
> windows? Or, is there another model of Ford that has parts that will =
> work?

How about the rear windows out of a same-series Suburban?
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:11:04 -0500
From: Anthony Rio
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Re: 18 Wheelers

If we're going to debate 18 wheelers... From what I see everyday on my
interstate commute is that most accidents are auto to auto. When a
situation does involve a tractor-trailer it is often because another
motorist (small car, SUV, or otherwise) cut into the space that the
semi-driver left in front of the truck to stop. Then when the boob in the
four-wheeler hits the brakes, the truck does not have enough room to stop,
and .... whammo.

Again... The type of car isn't really the cause of the accident or
aggresivness of the driver (although it may be a huge contributing factor).
The driver with low understanding of his vehicle and it's (and his or her)
abilities is really where the blame should go.

With that said, it does seem like small, high powered vehicles are the most
involved in catastrophic accidents.

I just wonder how many of these crashes could be avoided by proper
training? I know when I first to drivers education, I sat in a classroom
most of the time and actually drove under the instructors supervision for a
grand total of 1 hour (luckily my parents will willing to insure that I
knew what I was doing and did not allow me to get my license until they
felt I was ready).
I don't know if it is the same everywhere else, but here in Illinois, you
never have to retake the road portion of the drivers test. If you are going
to be given the responsiblity of operating a piece of machinery that you
could easily kill someone with, shouldn't you be required periodically to
prove you can do so? Isn't a license a privledge, not a right? (sorry..
just my #1 pet-peeve).

Maybe we should be complaining about bad drivers, not just a class of cars
(small, SUV, station-wagons, et) or 18-wheelers.

Of course to be two-faced.... I would be willing to say that everyone on
this list, with no exceptions, has pulled at least one bone-head manuver at
some point and time (myself included). The trick, I think, is to learn from
it, and try to avoid it in the future. It's just to bad that some types of
cars and trucks give some people the feeling that they can drive aggressive
and out of their realm of expertise.

Sorry for going off at the mouth... just one of my soap-boxes.

>>Don't sit there and tell me that we re making a bad >choice when it
>>comes to the safety of the highways. There are tons >of 18
>>wheelers out there, they are not hazards. Heck, the >drivers of
>>those trucks are probably the safest that I have seen >yet. It's the
>>ones in the small cars that think they can whip around >other people
>>like a bumble bee that cause the wrecks.

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:37:17 -0500
From: Anthony Rio
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Big truck creaking...

I have noticed as of late that the front end of my '94 4x2 F150 (90k miles)
has been creaking and popping quite a bit. Usually when I turn corners,
hit a small bump in the road, et... I am assuming that it is suspensition
related, but wondering if anyone else has had this experience.

I have been in a bunch of older trucks, and my 4 year old F150 sounds like
a "tired" one that is 15 or 20 years old.

Any suggestions?

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