80-96-list-digest Thursday, July 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 237



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Lincoln 9" rear with disc brakes
> FTE 80-96 - Re: SUV Survey
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lincoln 9" rear with disc brakes
> FTE 80-96 - Re: Catalytic converter
FTE 80-96 - RE: Feedback Solenoid
FTE 80-96 - Vapor Lock - Thanks for all the help!
FTE 80-96 - roadhog's...and trail destruction
FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!
Re: FTE 80-96 - roadhog's...and trail destruction
Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!
FTE 80-96 - Fwd: Suzuki4x4: Fwd: This will make you mad!!
FTE 80-96 - Ken Payne
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ken Payne
RE: FTE 80-96 - Vapor Lock - Thanks for all the help!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!
FTE 80-96 - RE: Fuel Injector Cleaner
FTE 80-96 - Re: Anti SUV Survey
FTE 80-96 - Re: Suzuki4x4: Survey
FTE 80-96 - Re: Aftermarket doorlocks
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Anti SUV Survey
FTE 80-96 - Car & Driver this month
FTE 80-96 - New tires for the truck......
FTE 80-96 - Re: Anti-SUV survey

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 07:17:12 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lincoln 9" rear with disc brakes
>
John Miller wrote:

> Hi gang ran across a nice Lincoln 9" rear end complete assembly with disc
> brakes today at the boneyard for $175.00. Does this sound good? I don't
> need it right now so I thought I would pass it on to everyone. If it's good
> enough I just might buy it for safe keeping.... what do you all think? If
> anyone needs it let me know privately and I'll give you the info...

If you don't then I will. :-) What year was it ?
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Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:09:50 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: SUV Survey

Yes, the survey results were very surprising. Now, if only they would do an
18 wheeler survey ;=)
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:45:03 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lincoln 9" rear with disc brakes
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>From: "John Miller"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lincoln 9" rear with disc brakes
> >
>Hi gang ran across a nice Lincoln 9" rear end complete
>assembly with disc brakes today at the boneyard for
>$175.00. Does this sound good?

Yo John:

>From what I've seen, I'd say that $175 for a 9" disc rear end is a steal!
Last time I asked around here (Colorado), they were getting $500 for them
at the boneyards.

Grab it and keep it stashed until you need it, or pass it on for a profit
(and still a bargain) to another Ford trucker.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)


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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 07:48:27 -0800
From: Casey Vandor
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Catalytic converter

I am pretty sure it is illegal, but then how do I find what was it was
originally equipped with? The build sheet said high-altitude exhaust,
but that doesn't tell me much. Anybody that has a stock 83 351W, could
you let me know what you have? (only a muffler or muffler and cat.....)

Thanks
Casey Vandor







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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:46:09 -0700
From: "Posluszny, Walt (POSL)"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Feedback Solenoid

Thanks for the tip Dave,

Can I assume from your note that you changed out the feedback solenoid on
the carb and the pinging went away? If that's the case... I'm off to the
dealer................. Mine too pings like mad on reg. gas all the
time(except idling of course). I unplugged the Feedback Solenoid once and
truck seemed to have noticeably more power but couldn't tell about the
pinging because I had Supreme in the tank. The exhaust did smell awfully
sulfurery thought so I assumed it was running too rich and hooked it back
up. I've been living with this since 1984. Thanks Walt
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RE: Ignition Timing/pinging
I had a similar problem on a 86 F-150 w/ 4.9L . The carb on my truck is a
feedback type. The feedback solenoid on the carb failed and it would ping
like mad all the time. Several dealers and several independent garages
could not find the problem. They kept blaming the EGR. I also fooled with
the timing but it really hurt performance. I forget how I finally figured
it out it was several years ago.

Dave

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:28:28 -0600
From: "Linda Lawrence"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Vapor Lock - Thanks for all the help!

Just wanted to update all on the posting I made with my vapor lock problem.
I got many great replies, thanks, guys, for all the help.

Yes, I found that the fuel line runs very close (2 inches or so) to the
exhaust. Also, in the engine compartment the fuel pump is fairly close to
the exhaust manifold. Also, the fuel line running over the engine was
resting on it! Almost everywhere the fuel goes, it's HOT!

So far:
I made a metal shield and fastened it between the fuel pump and exhaust
> manifold.
I wrapped the fuel line with aluminum foil ( running over the engine).
Since the problem doesn't happen until the engine heats up (it happened
again yesterday), I'm assuming that the main area to fix is in the engine
> compartment?

Roger
Laguna, NM

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:53:55 EDT
From: FSTFORDS aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - roadhog's...and trail destruction

It's obvious that you don't have a complete understanding of the world around
you and aren't paying attention too other polluters and how they are managed.

I myself pay over $300 a year to access the public land my taxes pay for and
strongly uphold the moral's of "PACK IT IN, PACK IT OUT," destruction is a
very broad term and obviously your org. uses it negligently. I foresee strong
opposition from many sides if you can't be little bit more diverse in seeing
the truth and reality of the way the majority of off-roading enthusiast's use
there vehicles.

In short, you don't have any idea of what your talking about.

AND, this roadhog thing your on...get a clue...pick on the truckers...and the
old cars......my vehicle runs less than 100ppm and my CO's are well within
tolerance!


Michael long
Tacoma, WA
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 12:55:20 -0500
From: Ezekial
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!

No one responded to my post yesterday so here it is again cause I really
need to know this.......

Someone I talked to said you could advance the timing on a 88 302, and
it is a truck block, to what I think was 13 degrees for more power. Is
this correct???

And also I removed one cat on my truck and the muffler. Now the exhaust
> exits through the first cat then to pipe which ends about 2 feet behind
the cab and faces toward the ground. Since then my truck has bogged
down bad off the line. At night it seems to be a bit faster. Anyone
know how to solve this?? One of my friends with a 96 experiences my same
situation except he still has 2 cats on it and no muffler.
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:09:39 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - roadhog's...and trail destruction

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about?
Did you send this to the wrong place?

You'll catch more flys with honey. Perhaps you ought
to learn to argue without calling people clueless and
saying they don't know what they're talking about.

Ken Payne
PS - My 67 F100 runs very clean. Properly tuned old
vehicles are clean. That's a clue for you.

At 01:53 PM 7/9/98 EDT, you wrote:
>It's obvious that you don't have a complete understanding of the world around
>you and aren't paying attention too other polluters and how they are managed.
>
>I myself pay over $300 a year to access the public land my taxes pay for and
>strongly uphold the moral's of "PACK IT IN, PACK IT OUT," destruction is a
>very broad term and obviously your org. uses it negligently. I foresee
strong
>opposition from many sides if you can't be little bit more diverse in seeing
>the truth and reality of the way the majority of off-roading enthusiast's use
>there vehicles.
>
>In short, you don't have any idea of what your talking about.
>
>AND, this roadhog thing your on...get a clue...pick on the truckers...and the
>old cars......my vehicle runs less than 100ppm and my CO's are well within
>tolerance!
>
>
>Michael long
>Tacoma, WA


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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:14:51 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!

At 12:55 PM 7/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>No one responded to my post yesterday so here it is again cause I really
>need to know this.......
>
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Can't answer your question, but let me give list members some
advise....

Before posting a question twice, let it go for a couple of
days. 70% of the users get the digest version of the list and
the digest doesn't go out until 4:00 am (EST) the next morning
and they may not see it until they get home from work the
next night.

Ken Payne



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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:33:27 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 302 timing, 2ND POST!

Yes if you bump up your timing and run higher octane gas then you will
get some hp from it. I run 14 degrees in my Lightning, factory is 10! I
always run 93 or better. Hope this helps
Chris
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:34:17 EDT
From: FSTFORDS aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fwd: Suzuki4x4: Fwd: This will make you mad!!

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In a message dated 7/9/98 10:56:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
drew_huber email.msn.com writes:

> DJ JONES wrote:
> >
> >> As I get stuff like this I will try to send it along if I don't see it
> >> posted out here. Once again trying to make us look like the bad guys!
> >> DJ
> >>
> >> >Subject: This will make you mad!!
> >> >
> >> >Something has got to be done about these GAG's!!!
> >> >
> >> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.foe.org/act/trails.html
> >> >--
> >> >Kevin Curry
> >> >Red '94 Hummer Fast-back "HummuH"
> >> >Kevin RedHummer.com
> >> >
> >> >Campbell's Law of Auto Repair:
> >> >"If you can get to the faulty part, you won't have the tool to remove
> >> >it."
> >> >


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I'll bet none of those people have ever been off-road. Either in a vehicle
or by foot. Just sitting around trying to come up with a way to seem like
they're doing something good. I personally run with a couple of
organizations and we have hauled trash out of the woods a lot of times. It
wasn't left by anyone that is serious about off-roading, and your absolutely
right about the trash on the side of the roads. I guess we need to start a
web site to abolish paved roads! More trash and pollution there than in the
woods. What do you think?

Drew Huber ---- Team Zuki ----
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /~teamzuki
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From: Alvin
To: suzuki4x4-l Avenza.com
Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Suzuki4x4: Fwd: This will make you mad!!


>
>
>DJ JONES wrote:
>
>> As I get stuff like this I will try to send it along if I dont see it
>> posted out here. Once again trying to make us look like the bad guys!
>> DJ
>>
>> >Subject: This will make you mad!!
>> >
>> >Something has got to be done about these GAG's!!!
>> >
>> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.foe.org/act/trails.html
>> >--
>> >Kevin Curry
>> >Red '94 Hummer Fast-back "HummuH"
>> >Kevin RedHummer.com
>> >
>> >Campbell's Law of Auto Repair:
>> >"If you can get to the faulty part, you won't have the tool to remove
>> >it."
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ______________________________________________________
>> >
>
>I suggest every one go to that site and respond to there email don't flame
>them just say not all off-roaders are irresponsible and there's more....

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