80-96-list-digest Friday, June 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 218



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - H*lp- transmission problem
Re: FTE 80-96 - 4.9 muffler?
FTE 80-96 - NP435 from F-series
FTE 80-96 - 1992 Automatic Transmission Problems
RE: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Automatic Transmission Problems
FTE 80-96 - Re:Key Lock
Re: RE: FTE 80-96 - just stuff
Re: FTE 80-96 - H*lp- transmission problem
RE: FTE 80-96 - K&N Performance Kit
RE: RE: FTE 80-96 - just stuff
RE: FTE 80-96 - K&N Performance Kit
FTE 80-96 - Thanks for Ford classic info
RE: FTE 80-96 - K&N Performance Kit
Re: FTE 80-96 - K&N Performance Kit
FTE 80-96 - Re: TSB
FTE 80-96 - OOOPS.. Press in clips
Re: FTE 80-96 - just stuff
Re: FTE 80-96 - Shock opinions
Re: FTE 80-96 - Shock opinions

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:05:41
From: Patti Smith
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - H*lp- transmission problem

At 09:39 PM 6/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Is the truck a 4X4? I'm not sure about the Mazda swap...
>I'll look around here.
>Bob

No 2wd.
Pat Smith pjsmith misslink.net
Galesburg,Il
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:35:17 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 4.9 muffler?

Gene Ball wrote:

> I have a1984 4.9 with a 4 barrel and a header, and small cam, and a
> ported head!
> What is a good muffler to run with these upgrades that doesnt sound
> funny,

Gene,
I have heard that Borla is a good system. They are twice the money
as say Gibson and others but they have a few perks. They give you
essentially a lifetime warranty of 1,000,000 miles, and they are
stainless
steel as well they are a quiet system compared to others.

- --
Thanks,
Rick Wojo
'83 Fsize BRONCO,Stock I-6,"The BROWN BULL",33x12.5x15-Mud Blasters
'92 Mstng 5.0L
'95 eclipse-Wife's(For Sale)


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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:56:48 -0400
From: Chris Hunt
Subject: FTE 80-96 - NP435 from F-series

I have a Ford NP435 4sp granny that is popping out of granny low while
under load crawling up a trail.
Not all the time, but enought that it could cause a problem depending on
the trail.
Ideas? BTW this NP435 is mated to a AMC360v8 and a Dana300 transfer case
via AA adaptor all in a 79 CJ7.
Chris
chris peake.com


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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:06:53 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Automatic Transmission Problems

I own a 1992 Ford F-150 SWB, 2WD, 300 I-6 with the Electronically
Controlled Overdrive Automatic Transmission. The truck currently has about
78,000 miles. Until now I have never had a problem. Last week I spent a
couple of hours in the truck on a very hot day "idling" around a farm I
own. Some of the time the truck was in park, some of the time it was in
drive, but stopped with the brakes. I also did some driving on relatively
firm dirt. Eventually the transmission started slipping in the lower
gears. When I realized what was going on, I headed for my local
independent mechanic. After I got into high gear things seemed OK. When I
got to the shop the mechanic was not there and it was raining like heck,
so I decided to head for home. I almost could not leave. The truck did not
want to move in reverse and it took a lot of coaxing to get it going
forward. Eventually I got it into high gear and made it back to my house.
When I got to the house I looked under the truck and saw automatic
transmission fluid literally pouring from somewhere in the bell housing
area. I was sure the transmission was cooked. I took another vehicle back
to the shop and talked to the mechanic. He began talking about a repair
bill in the high hundreds/low thousands. I was panicking at this point.
Then he told me to wait till the truck cooled and add fluid back to the
proper level and see what happened. I did this and everything seemed to
return to normal. He told me he had seen this exact same thing happen on
another Ford similar to mine. He said that truck was still OK many
thousands of miles later.

Has anyone else seen something like this? Am I living on borrowed time?
Anything I can do to stop it from happening again?

Thanks for any help.

Regards,

Ed
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:54:00 -0400
From: "Lyter, Bob (Concert)"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Automatic Transmission Problems

Sounds similar to my problem.

I have a 93' F-150 Flare Side w/5.0 EFI (86,000 Miles). I had a problem
with my automatic transmission (Electronic Overdrive). While driving on
highway or city it would be going fine and then seemed to shutter and clank
into gear. Normally on a bit of an incline but not always. Anyhow went to a
transmission shop and they said it was an inherent problem with this
particular tranny. Was told it would be around $600 to rebuild it or $100
service job may cure it temporarily. Had it serviced and it was fine for
about 6 mos. I am now starting to see this problem occur again. I would like
to know if anyone else has already been thru this and what the solution
might be.

Also Searching for advice!

Thanks in advance,
Bob Lyter

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From: C. E. White
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 1992 Automatic Transmission Problems
Date: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:06AM

I own a 1992 Ford F-150 SWB, 2WD, 300 I-6 with the Electronically
Controlled Overdrive Automatic Transmission. The truck currently has about
78,000 miles. Until now I have never had a problem. Last week I spent a
couple of hours in the truck on a very hot day "idling" around a farm I
own. Some of the time the truck was in park, some of the time it was in
drive, but stopped with the brakes. I also did some driving on relatively
firm dirt. Eventually the transmission started slipping in the lower
gears. When I realized what was going on, I headed for my local
independent mechanic. After I got into high gear things seemed OK. When I
got to the shop the mechanic was not there and it was raining like heck,
so I decided to head for home. I almost could not leave. The truck did not
want to move in reverse and it took a lot of coaxing to get it going
forward. Eventually I got it into high gear and made it back to my house.
When I got to the house I looked under the truck and saw automatic
transmission fluid literally pouring from somewhere in the bell housing
area. I was sure the transmission was cooked. I took another vehicle back
to the shop and talked to the mechanic. He began talking about a repair
bill in the high hundreds/low thousands. I was panicking at this point.
Then he told me to wait till the truck cooled and add fluid back to the
proper level and see what happened. I did this and everything seemed to
return to normal. He told me he had seen this exact same thing happen on
another Ford similar to mine. He said that truck was still OK many
thousands of miles later.

Has anyone else seen something like this? Am I living on borrowed time?
Anything I can do to stop it from happening again?

Thanks for any help.

Regards,

Ed
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 9:32:20 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:Key Lock

Rick,

You may want to check out Mr. G in Texas. He has several catalogs that has
weird parts. He prints his catalogs with to "scale" pictures and all you=20
have
to do is compare your part with the one in the catalog by holding it up to=20
it.
It has helped me out several time with my '70 Torino GT on the those hard
to find fasteners. I think they are advertised in Hemmings and am not sure
if they have a web page or not. My catalogs are still buried after my move
to my new house. Sorry! If you can get there number and address, I think
they can help.

Later,

-Ted

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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 07:31:36 -0500
From: "Rick Wojciechowski"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Key Lock

Casey Vandor wrote:

> Ok, a list memeber told me how to change out the complete lock assembly,=20
but
> to do so I need to pull the panels off the doors. All the little white
> press in clips are missing lots of teeth and don't hold real well. Ford
> cant find them in their ordering manuals and NAPA doesn't carry them, do=20
you
> have a Ford Part Number I could show the dealer or where should I look fo=
r
> more of them?
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:56:34 -0700
From: bpatten psfmech.com (Bill C. Patten)
Subject: Re: RE: FTE 80-96 - just stuff

Brian writes:
>t's a conversion made by a company called Centurion (I think.) It's
>essentially an F-350 with a bronco back end.

THANK YOU!!!!

I can definitely believe its a Centurion, I don't know how I could have
missed the Centurion placards, so hopefully I'll see one this weekend,
I'll also check to see if Centurion has a web site after I type this.

Thanks again, this was turning into a "bigfoot" , I know what I saw but no
one believed me :)

Bill P

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:41:52 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - H*lp- transmission problem

Called Ferrill's (Bone yard in Washington). They can get one in three
days...price $900.00 (whew!) I've got a few more places to check;will also
look up the bolt pattern in Advanced Adapter catalog and see if a sub is
possible.

Bob


At 06:05 AM 6/18/98, you wrote:
>At 09:39 PM 6/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>Is the truck a 4X4? I'm not sure about the Mazda swap...
>>I'll look around here.
>>Bob
>
>No 2wd.
>Pat Smith pjsmith misslink.net
>Galesburg,Il
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:38:21 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - K&N Performance Kit

>From: Dave Armbruster
>Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - K&N Performance Kit
>
>I replaced my stock air filter with the K&N cone (and Borla
>cat-back and Mobil 1). I noticed a slight increase in fuel
>economy, but it's true that you aren't going to see as huge of
>an improvement as they would like you to believe.

Yo Dave:

All the ads claiming performance improvements (assuming they are telling
the truth at all) are based on some "ideal" situation. It is unlikely that
anyone in the real world will realize all the (potential) improvements
claimed.

When I got a K&N element for my stock 351M air cleaner, the only
improvement was cleaning the filter element once every 30K miles instead of
changing it once every 5K. I detected no improvement in engine output.
That probably also shows that the air filter element was not a performance
bottleneck for my engine. OTOH, the K&N would collect dirt for a longer
period than the paper element w/out an adverse effect on performance. One
thing you do have to watch out for is over-oiling them.

> But, I think the K&N air filter, beside only needing occasional
>cleaning to last a very long time, probably does an overall
>better job of filtering the air than a typical paper filter.
>Due to the fact that the oil attracts the dust and small particles
>well without choking the engine silly, which can only increase
> engine life.

That is one of their claims that would be hard to disprove w/out a lot of
expensive equipment and testing.

> Anyone remember the old oil bath air filters from years ago?

I remember the oil bath air filter on my dad's '67 F250. Seems like for a
while in the late '60s, you could order the paper filter as a "performance"
option. All the auto manufacturers eventually went from oil bath to the
paper element because the paper element flows much better than oil bath....

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